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Thread: The duct saturday evening 5-9 -solo mission-revenge quest

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    Default The duct saturday evening 5-9 -solo mission-revenge quest

    Saturday afternoon (leaving lake pyramid)

    After only a fair day at Pyramid..

    Again, I decided to get some revenge on stripey, so…
    Off to the duct I go.

    1st 2 spot showed no love….

    The 3rd spot….whammo!

    My KPN get slammed !…..

    FISH ON !


    Another 10-15 minutes goes by.

    Slow swimming my lure,…I feel that familiar rap through the line
    Whammo !

    Fish on !


    The bites are slowly getting more aggressive in their actual bite pattern and the strikes are beginning to get more notable (Saweet !)


    A lull in the bite went on…and only after quite a while I got another one.

    Here are the 2nd and 3rd fish:


    All these fish were a little smaller grade sat night but I’m not complaining.

    I did try out some bait and caught 3 small kitty’s but way small, only about 1 ˝ lb pinners..

    Well John (Latefisher) these stripey are dedicated to you and your brother….

    Here’s to ya !

    Gary

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    YOU'RE KILLING ME......GARY!!! . Great job as usual bro.

    KPN.

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    Thanks Gary, we take that dedication with honor, but to be truthful i'd rather have the fish

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    Gary,

    I read all of your posts on the duct and I was wondering if you would clarify. You mention that the strike is very soft on your crankbait? How is that? I mean, does your rod not simply load up. How can you hit a crank softly? I mean, either they hit it or they dont right? I wondered about this so I thought I would ask.

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    Once againg Gary???? Dang me... Artimus and I did a last fishing effort the same night for NADA... His girl friend was taking tons of pictures with the flash and we were out there at night, so I figured that might have had something to do with it. Every few minutes it was like lightning going off. A very pleasant night out weather wise though. Congrats on your fish AGAIN!
    LOL
    Take it easy bud!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormcrow View Post
    Gary,

    I read all of your posts on the duct and I was wondering if you would clarify. You mention that the strike is very soft on your crankbait? How is that? I mean, does your rod not simply load up. How can you hit a crank softly? I mean, either they hit it or they dont right? I wondered about this so I thought I would ask.
    My experience has been that they do tap the crank. It is definitely a noticeable tap for me. It probably depends on the tackle being used too? I fish 14lb flourocarbon and have a 7' MH rod with fast tip. It's pretty sensitive but 3/4 oz is the max lure weight for this set up. Ususally for me though they just hammer it and run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormcrow View Post
    Gary,

    I read all of your posts on the duct and I was wondering if you would clarify. You mention that the strike is very soft on your crankbait? How is that? I mean, does your rod not simply load up. How can you hit a crank softly? I mean, either they hit it or they don’t right? I wondered about this so I thought I would ask.
    Light strikes happen in all sorts of varieties, many people probably don’t even know they got struck when they happen.

    One has to be 100% in tune with the feel and tension of the lure when it pulls through the water, any deviations from that should be considered a strike and the hook-set.
    (of course there is debris in the water that will fool you as well)

    It isn’t always an obvious strike.

    I’ll remind you that I have not been fishing the duct for years so I don’t want to come off like I know everything about the duct.

    I simply state and share what works for me and in some degree of regularity.

    Many times the fish strike in a much more aggressive attack that clearly is felt as a “strike”-no brainer there but there are many variable strikes that occur and in different water/weather conditions.

    I’ll also remind you that most of my fish I catch at night as well, the strike pattern may very well be different than that of a fish feeding during daylight, I could not speculate until I fish more during daylight.

    There are a number of strike patterns I’ve witnessed, I’m sure there are more than I personally have even experienced to date.

    * The load up strike : this was happening b4 the weird funky weather/barometer fluxes happened. They would grab hold of the lure and Straight tension would occur and be felt.
    When I began fishing there, I confused this with a snag until all of the sudden I
    felt a “Thump…thump..Thump” It took a few times to adapt.
    This strike is certainly notable, there is a whole lot of pressure when it occurs.



    *The Crushing strike: I’ve only experienced this once, the very 1st time I fished the duct, the water was moving solidly and I actually worked the lure
    downstream, cross current, somewhat fast, the striper came up high on the
    Transition, and was obviously chasing the bait down, he CRUSHED it !, hit it
    like a freight train, instant bendo and drag pulling, unfortunately I lost that one
    due to it shaking off and I haven’t experienced that pattern since, the weather was
    really hot then so I wouldn’t be surprised to see that pattern kick back into gear
    as the weather has changed to steady hot patterns.
    The fish striking the lure again is a no brainer on this one, you’ll know it when
    it happens.



    *The Batting strike: this was common when the water was still cold and would occur in between those hard barometer flux we were having.
    There were short stages when the fish fed and this is how those strikes were (again at night)
    I’d be retrieving slowly with my left index finger gently riding in front of the level wind on my Shimano baitcaster mounted on 7 ˝’ crucial graphite rod, this method and gear combo allows you to feel those most subtle variables during a retrieve, a very very very slight “tick” would be all that was felt and an IMMEDIATE strike response was necessary to incorporate the hook set, there were a few fish that I’d hook up on the nose or in the eye, plus many were hooked on the tail hook as well which is far from the normal bite when the fish actually GRABS the lure.
    All that is a clear indicator that the striper were attempting to “KNOCK OUT” the bait and eat it after. They seem to approach the lure and turn HARD on it to swat it, couldn’t say for a fact but that is my assessment, hence why you don’t feel the strike much and the lure isn’t solid in their mouth.



    *The T-BONE strike: There were a few times when the fish were coming out of the batting pattern, they would T-BONE strike, basically chase it down in a real docile fashion and “T-BONE” the lure from the side, the telltale signs of this behavior are the instances when both sets of treble hooks are hooked into their mouth, most commonly belly hook on top upper lip and tail hook on lower jaw.
    I saw a post from fellow FNN’r “SENG” from lake skinner that had a pic where the striper t-boned the lure…..same pattern (see Seng’s Skinner post “another KPN success story 5-7 http://fishingnetwork.net/forum4/showthread.php?t=32967) you’ll see what I speak of.

    *The Standard solid bumping strike: This is the more common bite I’ve experienced lately.
    A solid bump or thump is felt during the retrieve, they seem to be getting a little more aggressive day by day so therefore the bumps get a little stronger.
    It’s almost as if the striper is “grabbing hold of the lure” but not really engulfing it entirely, though he grabs it, a quick powerful hook set must be laid down to seal the deal, other wise you’ll come up short, good SOLID SHARP STRONG hooks should be used, I’ve had 1 fish bend a #2 owner stinger hook and that’s a real SOLID hook, walmart specials and lures of sorts are gonna leave you disappointed in the event of a big toad.

    *The “ENGULFING” strike: this has only happened to me once, it’s where the striper basically “EATS” the lure, no messing about, it’s just grabs it inside it’s mouth entirely and commits 100%, the one instance I had with this type of strike happened about a week ago and the fish was in the 15 lb class.
    That fish broke off with my hand on his lip but I never got a chance to see how far up in it's mouth the lure was but it was nowhere in sight.
    No brainer here, set the hook and hold on for the ride.

    Well I think that about covers it (I hope) that should answer all your questions and give you more insight about why I say what I say on my posts, there are clearly many variable that go with the territory, if one waits for the strike to always be a solid crushing strike, one may potentially miss out on many other hookups.

    It’s all about getting in tune with the lure while your’e running it, sensing everything going on and “focusing” all your attention to what the lure does at any given moment.

    Hope this helps,
    Gary
    Last edited by gletemfeelsteelgary; 05-11-2009 at 03:20 PM.

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    Good Job uncle Gary!
    Seems like the summer is gonna produce you a big'un,or two??Three??

    30lber!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeordyBass View Post
    Good Job uncle Gary!
    Seems like the summer is gonna produce you a big'un,or two??Three??

    30lber!!
    Thanks,
    How did you guys do sat night/sun morning out there ?

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    SWEET REVENGE GARY,,,,,t/o

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