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Thread: Could Trump become President for Life?

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    Dee Dee Dee Dee Dee Just off the wire! Only 4% of the workers got a pay raise (not the 1 time bonus) from the Big Corporate Tax cut!!! Oh joy that was a big waste of 2 trillion dollars! What will the Republicans come up next to make everyone life easier!!! lol

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    I'm not afraid of any illegals taking my job but I am against Illegal immigration! So how do you feel about the fact that tens and thousands of people apply legally and wait in line while someone jumpst the border and gets to the front of the line? Apparently you're perfectly fine with it, I'm not. You're worried about 10 years from now? I'm going to be retired in 10 years and I've been financially responsible and did not live beyond my means but it doesn't mean I like paying for people on the government dole and I'm not going to see a tax increase because I'm already paying enough as it is! Someone making 300K and paying 15% is going to pay 45k while the person making 50K paying 20% is still paying A LOT less to the government coffers. Are you favoring that the 300K guy pays 60 percent to close the gap so that at some point their take home is going to be close to someone making 150K? What then is the incentive to move up? I actually favor a flat tax irregardless of income levels, that would be fair.


    QUOTE=etucker1959;796690]Did you watch the commentary after the Dave Chappell clip DS put up? (You should) He described what you just put up as an example. The Rich man's trap and you just fell for it again! It goes like this, the Rich people get the Middle class people all upset at the lower class people. While your complaining about the Illegals taking your jobs (doesn't really happen) or people getting crumbs like food stamps. You don't notice all the Rich people sneaking out the door with all the money!!! (the recent tax cuts are a perfect example) In 10 years everyone who makes under $75,000 a year will see their tax's go up! Yet the Rich peoples and corporations tax cut's are permanent. That's why they say 83% of the tax cut (2 trillion dollars) will only benefit the Rich. (they only gave you 17%) So while your complaining about people less fortunate then you, you didn't notice the Rich people stealing all the money!!!![/QUOTE]

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    Tuck apparently you didn't get one.

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    And.... yet all the hollyweirdos who are liberal heroes make tens and millions of dollars and all the BLM football players and their tens and millions and all the NBA players and their millions stand on their pulpit and act like they can relate to their poor democrat voters and on that front I thought all you lefties were saying the Trump voters were poor mid west white trash so which is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by etucker1959 View Post
    No one is arguing everyone needs to contribute to our society. However, there are problems on both the top and on the bottom of our economic food chain. We don't need to rehash about the poor people on the bottom, but what you have is a blind eye to the people on top! Smaller and smaller amounts of people are taking more and more of the country's wealth. Their rigging the system where you keep having to work harder and harder just to survive. While they just keep getting richer and doing less! Think about Baseball salary's 40 years ago. A great player got a 2 million dollar contract spread out over 5 years. Now some players make up to 30 million a season. The Rich are doing the same thing!!! Where is your outrage towards them?? Sean Hannity is the mouth piece for Donald Trump on Fox News. (he loves Trumps tax policy's) Do you know he makes 30 million a year? Does he really need to get paid that much? Where is your outrage there! Instead you're only upset at the people on the bottom and ignoring these people on top stealing all of the wealth of the nation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelhead View Post
    And.... yet all the hollyweirdos who are liberal heroes make tens and millions of dollars and all the BLM football players and their tens and millions and all the NBA players and their millions stand on their pulpit and act like they can relate to their poor democrat voters and on that front I thought all you lefties were saying the Trump voters were poor mid west white trash so which is it?
    My point I was trying to make, that only 4% of the workers got a raise because of the Tax cut to corporations. What Trump billed this tax cut for was a way for workers to get a big pay raise, (wages haven't risen much in recent years) not as a give away to the rich and corporations. The Democrats argued that it will do very little for wages and if your going to spend that kind of money. Do it for the benefit of all our citizens, not just the Rich! Bernie said, you could offer free college tuition for all with that kind of money. Ask yourself, how many people are saddled with student loan debt all of their life? The Congress could have greatly reduced that burden. Instead they made the Rich Richer!!!
    Last edited by etucker1959; 06-26-2018 at 08:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelhead View Post
    I'm not afraid of any illegals taking my job but I am against Illegal immigration! So how do you feel about the fact that tens and thousands of people apply legally and wait in line while someone jumpst the border and gets to the front of the line? Apparently you're perfectly fine with it, I'm not. You're worried about 10 years from now? I'm going to be retired in 10 years and I've been financially responsible and did not live beyond my means but it doesn't mean I like paying for people on the government dole and I'm not going to see a tax increase because I'm already paying enough as it is! Someone making 300K and paying 15% is going to pay 45k while the person making 50K paying 20% is still paying A LOT less to the government coffers. Are you favoring that the 300K guy pays 60 percent to close the gap so that at some point their take home is going to be close to someone making 150K? What then is the incentive to move up? I actually favor a flat tax irregardless of income levels, that would be fair.


    QUOTE=etucker1959;796690]Did you watch the commentary after the Dave Chappell clip DS put up? (You should) He described what you just put up as an example. The Rich man's trap and you just fell for it again! It goes like this, the Rich people get the Middle class people all upset at the lower class people. While your complaining about the Illegals taking your jobs (doesn't really happen) or people getting crumbs like food stamps. You don't notice all the Rich people sneaking out the door with all the money!!! (the recent tax cuts are a perfect example) In 10 years everyone who makes under $75,000 a year will see their tax's go up! Yet the Rich peoples and corporations tax cut's are permanent. That's why they say 83% of the tax cut (2 trillion dollars) will only benefit the Rich. (they only gave you 17%) So while your complaining about people less fortunate then you, you didn't notice the Rich people stealing all the money!!!!
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    So much to choose from? (I'll get back to you, I still have to work!) lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by etucker1959 View Post
    at first it would sound absurd to the common person. If you look at that possibility more closely it's not as crazy as it sounds. After driving home from another disastrous fishing trip. (not even a bite) i threw this question at my friend phil. He in-effect was arguing the con of that argument and i was arguing the possibility of that happening. At the end of our discussion, he came up with nothing that said it couldn't happening.

    The first question comes up was, has it ever crossed trump's mind of becoming president for life??? The answer is yes!!! Just last month when the president of china declared himself president for life. Trump said, "maybe we should try that!!" if your first argument is, "no politician would have the o dasity to do something that's never been done before." i want you to think back to what mitch mcconnell did with obama's last supreme court nominee. (refused to bring him up for a vote) they stole a seat that was rightfully obama's pick.

    Here's how he could do it. In 2020 trump could come up with any excuse to cancel the 2020 presidential election. Safety is always a good excuse but the reason is irrelevant!! It's what you try to do about it, is what's important.

    Take it to the supreme court and claim his actions are unconstitutional. Ok let's say you do that and it comes back 9 to nothing that trumps action was unconstitutional. Then what??? The supreme court has no enforcement arm to enforce it's ruling. Trump say's, "i'm not listening to them" i'm staying!!! (fake judges)

    my friend phil argued the army would force him out. Really the president is commander and chief of all the military. Do you really think some general would have enough troops loyal to him to take on the rest of the army. Nope not going to happen!!!

    The people would take to the streets and force him out. Just like they did in ten ann men square in china. That's not going to work. People can protest all they want, but as long as trump has the army backing him up. He's not going any where.

    There is only 2 way's to get rid of a physco president and see if either of those 2 things would work.

    The first way is the 25th amendment. This is where the majority of trumps hand picked cabinet votes that he's incapacitated to do the job of president. Sorry folks that's not going to happen!!!

    The second and last way is through impeachment in the house and conviction in the senate. I could see them vote and get an impeachment majority in the house of representatives. (especially if the democrats take back the house) but it means nothing, if you don't get an conviction in the senate. It takes an 2/3 vote of guilty in the senate to get an conviction.

    Let's do the math. For our example we will go with a 50/50 split of democrats and republicans in the senate. (it's actually 49-51 republicans) you need 2/3 of the senators to vote for conviction. All 50 democrats will vote for an conviction but will 16 republicans vote to throw trump out???? (a few will but not 16)



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    I'll bet i know what you are thinking???? Etucker must be smoking the good stuff to think they wouldn't convict!!!

    Let's think about this for a minute from the republican side. Yes it's going against their principles not to convict. But what are they giving up if they convict. A possible democratic as president. Which means no more conservative judges on the supreme court. They will never be able to repeal obama care. The 2nd amendment might come under attack. Abortion will stay the law of the land. The tax cuts they just passed might be thrown out the window. The military budget might go down. Plus trump is so dumb and lazy, he will sign anything we stick under his nose to sign into law!!! So it would be pretty hard for 16 republican senators to vote for conviction!!!

    Do you see my logic????

    Let's just hope trump doesn't have the stones to try this, but if he does???? I think he could get away with it!!!!!
    maga 2020.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUCKY View Post
    maga 2020.
    Make America Great Again

    Trump must go!



    You know his slogan was just that, "a slogan." However, if you think about all the dumb things Trump has done so far and more to come. Pulled out of TTP, killed the Iranian deal, hired Jeff Pruitt (he's killing the planet) and now just started a trade war with our closest allies just to name a few.

    The MAGA with Trump must go isn't just a slogan. It's the Truth!!!!
    Last edited by etucker1959; 07-02-2018 at 07:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etucker1959 View Post
    Make America Great Again

    Trump must go!



    You know his slogan was just that, "a slogan." However, if you think about all the dumb things Trump has done so far and more to come. Pulled out of TTP, killed the Iranian deal, hired Jeff Pruitt (he's killing the planet) and now just started a trade war with our closest allies just to name a few.

    The MAGA with Trump must go isn't just a slogan. It's the Truth!!!!
    Haha. Vote again 2020 retard. So much winning. I’m almost tired of winning. Are you tired of whining yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUCKY View Post
    Haha. Vote again 2020 retard. So much winning. I’m almost tired of winning. Are you tired of whining yet?
    Name 3 things that you personally won at, that this is very significant because of Trump?

    I can tell you 3 things I personally lost because of Trump.

    1. My Health Insurance under Obama went up $240 a year. The first year under Trump it went up $2,000 and next year it will be worse.

    2. I can't up grade my home because Trump new tax overhaul only let's you deduct mortgage interest up to $750,000.

    3. My Health and life expectancy went down because of Trumps environmental policy's.

    The first time in my life which I never expected to hear, was people were actually talking about Civil war against each other. (thanks a lot Trump!!!!)

    Now let's hear about all that winning you now have because of Trump?
    Last edited by etucker1959; 07-02-2018 at 09:57 PM.

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