Went out with my 9 year old again Saturday. We fished for a few hours and got 3, 2 were the biggest this year a 5lb and 7lb. The 5 pounder ate my ned rig while I was undoing a tangle in my sons rod and the 7 pounder was on a lipless ripped off the bottom on the east end. All of my fish lately have come from 20+ feet