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Thread: Some exciting news about DVL.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShellBack USNRET View Post
    First Megan thank you for getting the ramp build and this in no way reflects on all the hard work you put into the ramp project.

    OK, I’ll be the first to sound off (bleep, bleep, and bleep). $220 to fish on a public lake doesn’t seem ethical or legal. I thought about it all day and it just doesn’t go down well. Yes, I don’t have to pay, and therefore keep my bottom at home. Trust me at $220 recession or no recession, charity or no charity I will not be among the first to launch on the Jewel in over 14 months. But I do pay California taxes, I pay my water bill on time and I served my country.

    As a California resident I would like to launch my boat on my public lake on December 12, 2009 and pay a regular public fee to do so. If someone wants to put together a separate event that’s OK, but do not restrict my access because I didn’t buy-in to a highly inflated price. This is an insult during these tough times.

    I am not a lawyer or politician but my quick response is “Something Smells Fishy”. Who’s looking out for the average Joe? Is DVL a public lake or private lake? Please don’t tell me this is a onetime event, because “come one, come all” bears a little weight in situations like this. If my favorite charity wants to hold a event at DVL what is the process and where can they get the application? And yes, it’s my right to question acts deemed unfair. It wouldn’t be the first time someone misused their power. If we allow one club, to control access and charge a ridiculous price to participate, what’s to stop the next request?

    Right or Privilege the very first day DVL is ready to launch private boats it should be open to the public at a fair public fee and not to line private organization pockets. Charge a standard fee and donate portions of those fees to this organization. Public places should never be closed to the public in support of private organization making a profit. I do support charities but $220 per person stretches the imagination. Are they forcing me to make donations, and what about other organizations looking for help? How did the Bass club fit into the equation? For DVL to deny me access unless I pay these fees is questionable at the least.

    Sidebar, Yes I know it’s my right to gripe to higher authorities and who says I won’t. It definitely would make good conversation or news for the right ear.

    Summary: A lot of people waited a long time to return to DVL. The first launch day is special and it shouldn't cost $220 to apart of this event. THIS IS OUR LAKE AND THIS IS WRONG!

    You may want to re-read the requirements.

    If you pay $220.00 you are eligible to win something associated with the ‘Bass’ portion of the event.
    If you pay $60.00, you are, eligible to win something associated with the ‘Trout’ portion of the event.

    Nobody is going to tell you what species of fish you can and cannot fish.

    $60.00 - You can still launch your boat; I cannot see where anyone here is trying to screw you out of money or what part of this event appears to be unethical.

    You can fish for CATS, STIPERS, PAN FISH, AND EVEN SKUNKS TOO.


    I might just go to watch the chaos at the ramp. The most enjoyable part of a days fishing can be just hanging around and watching the circus.




    Tight lines all, and best of luck to those who fish this event

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    How much do I have to pay if I only want to fish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShellBack USNRET View Post
    How much do I have to pay if I only want to fish?
    Looks like the rest of us poor folks have to wait till it opens to the public!

    General public launching starts on Sunday, December 20th.

    The Special Charity Event is on Sat Dec 12th....



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    Hence my concerns, the rest of us poor folks shouldn't have to feel separated from this event (First Launch Day in over 14 Months). History has taught us well about separations. The first day DVL re-opens is December 12, 2009, but it is a private event.

    Think about those who during these struggling times are either without work or tighten up the budget. Some will even participate in this event when the extra funds could be used elsewhere.

    Think about the under 15 years old kid scraping up $20 just to be a part of this event. I even debated about going to the bank. If you think I’m crying you should hear my wife’s complaint. The difference from standard launch fee of $12 and this Charity event entry is still considered "highly inflated", whether its $60 or $220.

    I know those connected with this event will say what they will. I am no naysayer, but the way MWD and DVL has handled DVL (and this is a prime example), gets my blood to boiling and bring questions about how they best support the customers.

    This Charity event crosses a fine line. Allowing a private organization to control launching in a public lake is wrong. Deny someone public launching and someone could take it to court. DVL IS A PUBLIC LAKE and SOME OF OUR TAXES HELPS TO OPERATE THIS LAKE AND TEMPORARILY FUND THE RAMP.

    Sell raffle tickets……

    P.S. If someone else with similar questions about this practice, have email addresses to the decision makers, or sponsors I would be glad to forward my complaint.
    Last edited by ShellBack USNRET; 11-21-2009 at 12:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShellBack USNRET View Post
    How much do I have to pay if I only want to fish?
    You have to pay 8 days of patience. I am willing to pay the 60.00 just so I can beat the crowds a bit, kind of wish the price was higher so more people would stay home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peestick View Post
    You have to pay 8 days of patience. I am willing to pay the 60.00 just so I can beat the crowds a bit, kind of wish the price was higher so more people would stay home.
    Mike, you must have sold one of your guns to get that type of money. It would be a nice thought for you to take and pay for one of our senior citizens on a fixed income. Nessie, load up new line on the reels, I'm sure peestick has your phone number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruce watson View Post
    Mike, you must have sold one of your guns to get that type of money. It would be a nice thought for you to take and pay for one of our senior citizens on a fixed income. Nessie, load up new line on the reels, I'm sure peestick has your phone number.



    Mike is such a sweetheart.. Ill have to sit with him at church this Sunday...









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