It doesn't seem to matter if you are on a 1/2 day or a million day boat. There will always be one, two, three or four bad apples on a boat. If you want to avoid this type of cludder save your money and go on a six pack charter ( where you pick the anglers to fish with ). It's the ONLY way. So with all due respect, you are going to have to have to live with the tangles and saw off's, as do I until i find five worthy anglers. My Two Cents