...oh and watch your back out there. I remember at DVL back in the day you stood at the point by the marina and casted towards the dock. Used to be a sheriff who parked at the top of the hill and frowned upon that sort of thing and wasn't afraid to write tickets. If he wasn't there you did it and took your chances. Closer to the dock the better, but watch your 3, 6, and 9. You might have three guys surrounding you doing the same thing if you catch anything at all. They just move closer and closer as they measure whether or not youll give in or resist. Give in and you might as well plan on being hip to hip, shoulder to shoulder. Resist and plan on being...hip to hip, shoulder to shoulder.....cant win!!!!