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Thread: (Speakers corner) What will Trump run on in 2020?

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    So you are showing me polls? We all know how the polls worked in 2016. The government has no business in healthcare. Free open market is the best way and the way it was before Obamacare ruined it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUCKY View Post
    So you are showing me polls? We all know how the polls worked in 2016. The government has no business in healthcare. Free open market is the best way and the way it was before Obamacare ruined it.
    A couple of quick fact checks!

    The polls in 2016 for President were accurate! They were all within the margin of error and Hillary did win the popular vote by almost 3 million votes. Also how can you have predicted what Comey did? He opened an investigation on Hillary 12 days before the election and then say's the day before he "found nothing new!" (people already did early voting) Trump won the election by 70,000 votes in 3 key states. You don't think the Russian's could have influenced 70,000 people in their Social Media campaigns. (or the Comey factor?) It's kind of hard to factor all those wild cards things into the equation, that's why they have a margin of error of a few points in each of their polls. I hope I made that a little clearer for you CHUCKY! I know Fox News will never tell you that!

    The Government and Health Care.

    Let me give you both facts and the common sense test.

    If a 100 people say the sky is blue and 1 person say's it isn't. Who is going to be right more of the time? Answer: The 100 of course! Every single advanced Nation on the face of the Earth but 1 has Universal Health Care. Can you guess what country doesn't have Universal Health Care. Answer" The United States of America!

    The United States has wonderful Health Care except for 1 factor. Can you guess CHUCKY what that 1 factor is? Answer: The price! Because of the price it excludes 10 of millions of thy fellow Americans. The way to get the price down for everyone and give access to everyone is take out the profit in Health Care.

    Insurance company's that deal in Health Care are some of the Richest company's in the country. Here in the United States as compared to the rest of the world, we pay twice as much for Health Care as everyone else. Why???? Answer: Because of the profits generated by Health Care Insurance company's. I know you know this CHUCKY! How do you reduce the price of any product? Answer: Take out the middle man!

    That's how CHUCKY, a working single payer plan should function! Unfortunately because it's just in the idea faze, I haven't seen any working models that I would support yet. So in the mean time, let's work on improving Obama Care because it is a good stop gap measure, till they work out the bugs on a good single payer plan!
    Last edited by etucker1959; 02-16-2019 at 04:10 PM.

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    And I bet you thought that Republicans would maintain their majority in the House of Representatives last year, Chucky, despite polls suggesting the contrary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etucker1959 View Post
    A couple of quick fact checks!

    The polls in 2016 for President were accurate! They were all within the margin of error and Hillary did win the popular vote by almost 3 million votes. Also how can you have predicted what Comey did? He opened an investigation on Hillary 12 days before the election and then say's the day before he "found nothing new!" (people already did early voting) Trump won the election by 70,000 votes in 3 key states. You don't think the Russian's could have influenced 70,000 people in their Social Media campaigns. (or the Comey factor?) It's kind of hard to factor all those wild cards things into the equation, that's why they have a margin of error of a few points in each of their polls. I hope I made that a little clearer for you CHUCKY! I know Fox News will never tell you that!

    The Government and Health Care.

    Let me give you both facts and the common sense test.

    If a 100 people say the sky is blue and 1 person say's it isn't. Who is going to be right more of the time? Answer: The 100 of course! Every single advanced Nation on the face of the Earth but 1 has Universal Health Care. Can you guess what country doesn't have Universal Health Care. Answer" The United States of America!

    The United States has wonderful Health Care except for 1 factor. Can you guess CHUCKY what that 1 factor is? Answer: The price! Because of the price it excludes 10 of millions of thy fellow Americans. The way to get the price down for everyone and give access to everyone is take out the profit in Health Care.

    Insurance company's that deal in Health Care are some of the Richest company's in the country. Here in the United States as compared to the rest of the world, we pay twice as much for Health Care as everyone else. Why???? Answer: Because of the profits generated by Health Care Insurance company's. I know you know this CHUCKY! How do you reduce the price of any product? Answer: Take out the middle man!

    That's how CHUCKY, a working single payer plan should function! Unfortunately because it's just in the idea faze, I haven't seen any working models that I would support yet. So in the mean time, let's work on improving Obama Care because it is a good stop gap measure, till they work out the bugs on a good single payer plan!
    You would make a great snake oil salesman. But I’m not buying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUCKY View Post
    You would make a great snake oil salesman. But I’m not buying.
    That's funny because you don't believe me! What incentive do I have to lie to you? My Silver plan through Kaiser Permanete doubled in my out of pocket expenses after Trump became President. (yes I use Covered California) I'm so afraid this year when I do my tax's, my refund will be considerably less because of Trump's Tax cut for the Rich. CHUCKY, I have no incentive to lie to you but other people do!

    In the Bible as the story goes, Judeas betrayed Jesus for 30 pieces of silver. Sean Hannity of Fox News get's paid $30 million dollars a year. The guy never even graduated from college! I watch his show all the time, he's part used car salesman and sleazy Lawyer! He lies continuously or ignores the truth on every single program he does. He even to protect himself say's, "I'm just an opinion person" not a journalist! He say's, if there was a big fire or an Hurricane we report that as News but other then that, I'm just giving my opinion's! (what a cheap cover for lying) What do they say about opinion's, there like you know what and everybody has one? Ted Koppel a real Newsman (no you can't call him part of the Fake News hate Trump group) Do you know why CHUCKY you can't call Ted Koppel Fake News? Because he was around probably before you were born. I remember him in 1979 doing the Night Line news program at 11:30 pm at night. The first story that got me to remember him was the Iranian Hostage crisis. He said he was going to give them coverage everyday till they were released. (it lasted 400 and some odd day's) Fox News didn't even come into existence till 1996, so you can't call him part of the Hate Trump News.

    Well I wanted to give you some background on the guy before I go into my punch line. Last year a pretty old Ted Koppel did a "News story" on Sean Hannity. He asked him some pretty tough questions about his show. He got Sean so befuddled that he incriminated himself right on the air! There was so many good lines that came out of that interview but my favorite one was this, what are you saying Ted, "I'm bad for America?" (that's Sean hanging himself right there!) Yea I do!!!

    After the show aired and Sean saw himself look so stupid! The only defense this Snake oil salesman (Sean Hannity) could come up with was, it was a 2 hour interview and they only showed a few minutes of it on Ted's program. Where did all those other minutes go when I said Bla Bla Bla? He (Sean) spent many day's on his show trying to walk back all the things Ted caught Sean doing!

    Now in closing, you accuse me of being the Snake Oil salesman who has nothing to gain but everything to loose. While Fox News who has hundreds of Millions of Dollars to gain every year by telling people what they want to hear. Are they not the real Snake Oil salesman among us? If you don't believe that, (Fox News is the one telling the truth) that once again Flunks the common sense test!

    Do you ever wonder CHUCKY, why Myself and Natural Lefty are sometimes in a race to write the same response, to a question poised in a thread? Because there is no denying the truth!
    Last edited by etucker1959; 02-17-2019 at 06:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUCKY View Post
    You would make a great snake oil salesman. But I’m not buying.
    I do sell Real Estate does that count? lol lol lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by etucker1959 View Post
    That's funny because you don't believe me! What incentive do I have to lie to you? My Silver plan through Kaiser Permanete doubled in my out of pocket expenses after Trump became President. (yes I use Covered California) I'm so afraid this year when I do my tax's, my refund will be considerably less because of Trump's Tax cut for the Rich. CHUCKY, I have no incentive to lie to you but other people do!

    In the Bible as the story goes, Judeas betrayed Jesus for 30 pieces of silver. Sean Hannity of Fox News get's paid $30 million dollars a year. The guy never even graduated from college! I watch his show all the time, he's part used car salesman and sleazy Lawyer! He lies continuously or ignores the truth on every single program he does. He even to protect himself say's, "I'm just an opinion person" not a journalist! He say's, if there was a big fire or an Hurricane we report that as News but other then that, I'm just giving my opinion's! (what a cheap cover for lying) What do they say about opinion's, there like you know what and everybody has one? Ted Koppel a real Newsman (no you can't call him part of the Fake News hate Trump group) Do you know why CHUCKY you can't call Ted Koppel Fake News? Because he was around probably before you were born. I remember him in 1979 doing the Night Line news program at 11:30 pm at night. The first story that got me to remember him was the Iranian Hostage crisis. He said he was going to give them coverage everyday till they were released. (it lasted 400 and some odd day's) Fox News didn't even come into existence till 1996, so you can't call him part of the Hate Trump News.

    Well I wanted to give you some background on the guy before I go into my punch line. Last year a pretty old Ted Koppel did a "News story" on Sean Hannity. He asked him some pretty tough questions about his show. He got Sean so befuddled that he incriminated himself right on the air! There was so many good lines that came out of that interview but my favorite one was this, what are you saying Ted, "I'm bad for America?" (that's Sean hanging himself right there!) Yea I do!!!

    After the show aired and Sean saw himself look so stupid! The only defense this Snake oil salesman (Sean Hannity) could come up with was, it was a 2 hour interview and they only showed a few minutes of it on Ted's program. Where did all those other minutes go when I said Bla Bla Bla? He (Sean) spent many day's on his show trying to walk back all the things Ted caught Sean doing!

    Now in closing, you accuse me of being the Snake Oil salesman who has nothing to gain but everything to loose. While Fox News who has hundreds of Millions of Dollars to gain every year by telling people what they want to hear. Are they not the real Snake Oil salesman among us? If you don't believe that, (Fox News is the one telling the truth) that once again Flunks the common sense test!

    Do you ever wonder CHUCKY, why Myself and Natural Lefty are sometimes in a race to write the same response, to a question poised in a thread? Because there is no denying the truth!
    You just made my point. Do you know why you are paying more? Because you are paying for everyone else that can’t afford it. Now you are seeing you’re socialist ways. People that can pay will pay more so the people Thant can’t pay get everything for free. Get it now?

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    It is "funny" how we sometimes are saying the same things at the same time as we write replies, Eric (only in our own styles). LOL

    You must be brave to listen to Sean Hannity. He is the hardest to listen to of all the pundits out there, for me personally. I have listened to him before, but the 5 minute rule applies to him. I can only stand listening to his nonsense for about 5 minutes at a time. People like him are the real snake oil salesmen.

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    You have that backwards, Chucky. Eric is paying more for his personal health insurance and expenses, not more in taxes. That money is only going to insurance companies and medical personnel, not to pay for other peoples' healthcare. And so what if he was paying for other peoples' healthcare? Isn't that what a good citizen should do if he or she can afford to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Lefty View Post
    You have that backwards, Chucky. Eric is paying more for his personal health insurance and expenses, not more in taxes. That money is only going to insurance companies and medical personnel, not to pay for other peoples' healthcare. And so what if he was paying for other peoples' healthcare? Isn't that what a good citizen should do if he or she can afford to?
    Yes it is. Do some research. Say I am working for a company with a group health plan. If say 1 or2 people get really sick or have some serious problems within the health plan the rates will go up for EVERYONE in the group plan. So why should I have to pay more for that then? Before Obamacare or ACA you could shop around and find some really great policies till the government stuck their nose in it. Healthcare should be like car insurance. No accidents= low rate. If your a dummy= high rates and good luck.

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