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Thread: Kamala? Foe or Fraud?

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    Default Kamala? Foe or Fraud?

    I'll start with these few articles.

    Unlike some, I trust reporting to make sure they divulge facts. I trust our brains to interpret those facts.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/o...l-justice.html

    https://ocweekly.com/kamala-harris-president-campaign/

    https://www.latimes.com/local/politi...201-story.html

    https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/artic...ms-3263797.php

    Let's have a civil discussion, so no mom's involved.


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    There are definitely some problems with Kamala's record as AG. However, I find that there are several other factors to take into account regarding her candidacy for president.

    1. Being president is very different from being AG. I have to wonder if any state AGs would qualify as "progressive" according to the standards applied in these articles. Remember too, that Kamala Harris became AG in a period of a dominant "get tough on crime" theme, which surely influenced her judgment.

    2. She is now a Senator, where different sides of her are being evidenced. She appears to be moving to the left, and has always had progressive tendencies as she has said.

    3. She was the first Senator to co-sponsor Bernie Sanders' medicare for all proposal, and she is backing the Green New Deal and a bunch of other proposals which should make progressives happy. I think she seems receptive to the views of citizens. I would encourage more people to contact her office with suggestions, as I did a couple of years ago.

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    Starts with a C. Ends with a T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tpfishnfool View Post
    Starts with a C. Ends with a T.
    The first time I've ever agreed with you.

    She is a Centrist.

    Webster Dictionary defines a Centrist as a person with moderate political opinions!

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    I don't think that's what tpfishnfool meant, Erik. And I would not characterize Kamala Harris as a centrist, either. Do you realize that she has one of the most liberal records of any Senator? People keep calling her a centrist with zero evidence. She might be more to the center than some of the candidates, but not all of them and that doesn't make her a centrist. Centrists don't want to enact medicare for all and take insurance companies out of the picture, raise taxes on wealthy people and corporations, overhaul our economy to make it "Green," or raise the minimum wage to approximately twice its current level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Lefty View Post
    I don't think that's what tpfishnfool meant, Erik. And I would not characterize Kamala Harris as a centrist, either. Do you realize that she has one of the most liberal records of any Senator? People keep calling her a centrist with zero evidence. She might be more to the center than some of the candidates, but not all of them and that doesn't make her a centrist. Centrists don't want to enact medicare for all and take insurance companies out of the picture, raise taxes on wealthy people and corporations, overhaul our economy to make it "Green," or raise the minimum wage to approximately twice its current level.
    I was trying to throw toilet paper dude a curve ball. I wanted to see if he could or would react in any fashion other then giving crude insults! I'm sure he has no idea what an Centrist is, let alone respond in any kind of an intellectual response.

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    Toilet Paper Dude probably thinks that Donald Trump is a centrist. LOL Actually, a lot of people portrayed him that way during the campaign in 2016. They said he was all over the political map. I remember occasionally listening to Glenn Beck for a few minutes at a time (about all I can stand), and he was talking about how Trump was a secret leftist. Yeah, right. LOL Trump clearly sides consistently with the Republicans and his conservative, rural white base, which he caters to. How deep his convictions are to the views that he espouses, is another question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etucker1959 View Post
    I was trying to throw toilet paper dude a curve ball.
    Curve ball? You could've put it on a tee and dude would still miss.



    In any case, it's funny that her 'tough on crime' stance is harsher than many of her right-wing opponents, so the tag 'centrist' is quite fitting.

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    This article talks about her AG record. She did a lot of things that were liberal, so her record wasn't that centrist if centrist at all. https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-...htmlstory.html

    More importantly, as I mentioned, law enforcement is only a small part of being president, and prosecutors are encouraged to be "tough on crime"in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Lefty View Post
    This article talks about her AG record. She did a lot of things that were liberal, so her record wasn't that centrist if centrist at all. https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-...htmlstory.html

    More importantly, as I mentioned, law enforcement is only a small part of being president, and prosecutors are encouraged to be "tough on crime"in general.
    "8 things to know about Senate candidate Kamala Harris' career gold stars and demerits."

    I was waiting for the 'demerits' in that article and they never showed up.

    Here's a good one:

    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/08/k...torney-general

    And, again, I'd vote for Kamala in any election if it came down to her and the Orange Cheeto.

    I just want to be informed in her policies since she's the New Obama.

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