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Thread: (Speakers Corner) All lies what the Republicans are running on for the Mid terms

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    Quote Originally Posted by anchor3n1 View Post
    It's not nor never been about Health Care needs.



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    THRO0UGH A CAPITALISTIC OPTION or A SOCIALISTIC hammer n sickle way
    They say, the only way to make Health Care affordable, is to take the profit out of it!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by etucker1959 View Post
    They say, the only way to make Health Care affordable, is to take the profit out of it!!!

    They might "say" that.


    but others"say" otherwise

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    Obamacare IS a capitalist option, similar to a plan first devised by a conservative thinktank. And now people like you are calling it socialism. SMH.

    This just in: 69% of millennials favor universal healthcare and most favor other social programs such as free college tuition.

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...urance-program

    I collect information from the most objective sources that I can find, not left wing soapboxes. I am interested in research and polls showing what's happening in society. Those like Steelhead who think that anything other than Fox News is "fake news" are the people who really have blinders on. Outlets such as Fox News, Breitbart and Infowars are the actual fake news.
    Last edited by Natural Lefty; 11-02-2018 at 04:56 PM.

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    See Anchor and Chucky's post, you work out a solution for the 30 million that you tout as now covered and leave what's working alone, Obamacare lined the pockets of insurance companies and allowed them to balloon the cost. You like to quote historical data as showing healthcare going up incrementally year over year. Did it go up 100% or MORE in the case of some Obamacare exchanges???
    The answer is a Big FAT NO. Obamacare fleeced the middle class and lined the pockets of Obama's health industry buddies in addition to additional subsidies from the FEDS to those insurance companies. You say raise taxes on the wealthy and give breaks to the poor?? What do you think Obamacare was? Was it not a TAX according to SCOTUS? So there you go, tax those like Anchor to pay for those on free government programs. He may be wealthy but if you ask Anchor I don't think he would say he's part of the 1%. You apparently are NOT an employer and have not been hit by Obamacare but must be a benefitter.

    Quote Originally Posted by etucker1959 View Post
    Steelhead Steelhead Steelhead, there is basically only 3 choices for Health Care. Go back to
    before there was Obama Care. (Repeal and not Replace) Which had 70 million uninsured people and no protections for people with pre existing conditions. (the majority of the American people wouldn't stand for that!) Or Universal coverage for everyone! (the american people aren't yet in a mood for that) OR DRUM ROLL PLEASE Obama Care modified into a better condition. Where it covers more for less money!

    Tell me I'm wrong where my logic led us too!! If you do, then what's your answer to the American public's Health Care needs????

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelhead View Post
    See Anchor and Chucky's post, you work out a solution for the 30 million that you tout as now covered and leave what's working alone, Obamacare lined the pockets of insurance companies and allowed them to balloon the cost. You like to quote historical data as showing healthcare going up incrementally year over year. Did it go up 100% or MORE in the case of some Obamacare exchanges???
    The answer is a Big FAT NO. Obamacare fleeced the middle class and lined the pockets of Obama's health industry buddies in addition to additional subsidies from the FEDS to those insurance companies. You say raise taxes on the wealthy and give breaks to the poor?? What do you think Obamacare was? Was it not a TAX according to SCOTUS? So there you go, tax those like Anchor to pay for those on free government programs. He may be wealthy but if you ask Anchor I don't think he would say he's part of the 1%. You apparently are NOT an employer and have not been hit by Obamacare but must be a benefitter.
    Boom!! Thank you. Good night

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    Quote Originally Posted by anchor3n1 View Post
    They might "say" that.


    but others"say" otherwise
    Just look at the profits that are being made by some of those company's. (that say's a lot)

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelhead View Post
    See Anchor and Chucky's post, you work out a solution for the 30 million that you tout as now covered and leave what's working alone, Obamacare lined the pockets of insurance companies and allowed them to balloon the cost. You like to quote historical data as showing healthcare going up incrementally year over year. Did it go up 100% or MORE in the case of some Obamacare exchanges???
    The answer is a Big FAT NO. Obamacare fleeced the middle class and lined the pockets of Obama's health industry buddies in addition to additional subsidies from the FEDS to those insurance companies. You say raise taxes on the wealthy and give breaks to the poor?? What do you think Obamacare was? Was it not a TAX according to SCOTUS? So there you go, tax those like Anchor to pay for those on free government programs. He may be wealthy but if you ask Anchor I don't think he would say he's part of the 1%. You apparently are NOT an employer and have not been hit by Obamacare but must be a benefitter.
    Anchor can offer a very different prospective then most of us know about. After all the Monkeying the Republicans did to Obama Care. What now is the "Legal obligation" that employers have to their employees? (I really don't know the answer to that!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUCKY View Post
    Boom!! Thank you. Good night
    CHUCKY, you never did answer the $1,000,0000 dollar question. What are we suppose to do with the poor?

    I did ask HawgZy the same question once, so I'm not just picking on you! lol I'll tell you his answer, so if it's similar, you won't feel alone in being a heartless bastard! His answer was, "I can't worry about, what that policy does to those people!"
    Last edited by etucker1959; 11-02-2018 at 10:05 PM.

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    Wow, so now the millenials know what's best for the majority. Most millennials I know live in fantasy land and don't know how things work int he real world and most don't have real jobs so let's not christen them as the foremost expert on what's best for joe public. I've not once suggested Fox news was the final word on news but I do know fake news when I see it and apparently you don't. The point being you take each story and dissect it and use your critical thinking skills to question the validity of the story. Apparently you think CNN is REAL news because everytime I refer to it as Clinton News Network you go berzerk. By the way CNN is fake news. I think there's a youtube video of them staging a fake protest and later running it as a story if you actually did a little research and yes I've also posted that same link on here. Care to show me a FOX story where they staged the protestors for the camrea and told them where to stand?

    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Lefty View Post
    Obamacare IS a capitalist option, similar to a plan first devised by a conservative thinktank. And now people like you are calling it socialism. SMH.

    This just in: 69% of millennials favor universal healthcare and most favor other social programs such as free college tuition.

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...urance-program

    I collect information from the most objective sources that I can find, not left wing soapboxes. I am interested in research and polls showing what's happening in society. Those like Steelhead who think that anything other than Fox News is "fake news" are the people who really have blinders on. Outlets such as Fox News, Breitbart and Infowars are the actual fake news.
    Last edited by steelhead; 11-02-2018 at 11:15 PM.

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    Here is another one, and it isn't restricted to millennials or topics about healthcare and public education.

    "Americans Overwhelmingly Support Bernie Sanders' Economic Policies -- So How'd We End Up Here?"

    https://www.salon.com/2017/01/14/ame...e-end-up-here/
    Last edited by Natural Lefty; 11-03-2018 at 06:26 PM.

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