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Thread: Could Trump become President for Life?

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    Default Could Trump become President for Life?

    At first it would sound absurd to the common person. If you look at that possibility more closely it's not as crazy as it sounds. After driving home from another disastrous fishing trip. (not even a bite) I threw this question at my friend Phil. He in-effect was arguing the con of that argument and I was arguing the possibility of that happening. At the end of our discussion, he came up with nothing that said it couldn't happening.

    The first question comes up was, has it ever crossed Trump's mind of becoming President for life??? The answer is Yes!!! Just last month when the President of China declared himself President for life. Trump said, "maybe we should try that!!" If your first argument is, "no politician would have the O dasity to do something that's never been done before." I want you to think back to what Mitch McConnell did with Obama's last Supreme court nominee. (refused to bring him up for a vote) They stole a seat that was rightfully Obama's pick.

    Here's how he could do it. In 2020 Trump could come up with any excuse to cancel the 2020 Presidential election. Safety is always a good excuse but the reason is irrelevant!! It's what you try to do about it, is what's important.

    Take it to the Supreme Court and claim his actions are Unconstitutional. Ok let's say you do that and it comes back 9 to nothing that Trumps action was Unconstitutional. Then what??? The Supreme court has no enforcement arm to enforce it's ruling. Trump say's, "I'm not listening to them" I'm staying!!! (Fake Judges)

    My friend Phil argued the army would force him out. Really the President is Commander and Chief of all the military. Do you really think some General would have enough troops loyal to him to take on the rest of the army. Nope not going to happen!!!

    The people would take to the streets and force him out. Just like they did in Ten Ann Men square in China. That's not going to work. People can protest all they want, but as long as Trump has the army backing him up. He's not going any where.

    There is only 2 way's to get rid of a physco President and see if either of those 2 things would work.

    The first way is the 25th Amendment. This is where the majority of Trumps hand picked cabinet votes that he's incapacitated to do the job of President. Sorry folks that's not going to happen!!!

    The second and last way is through Impeachment in the House and conviction in the Senate. I could see them vote and get an Impeachment majority in the House of Representatives. (especially if the Democrats take back the House) But it means nothing, if you don't get an conviction in the Senate. It takes an 2/3 vote of guilty in the Senate to get an conviction.

    Let's do the Math. For our example we will go with a 50/50 split of Democrats and Republicans in the Senate. (it's actually 49-51 Republicans) You need 2/3 of the Senators to vote for conviction. All 50 Democrats will vote for an conviction but will 16 Republicans vote to throw Trump out???? (a few will but not 16)












    I'll bet I know what you are thinking???? etucker must be smoking the good stuff to think they wouldn't convict!!!

    Let's think about this for a minute from the Republican side. Yes it's going against their principles not to convict. But what are they giving up if they convict. A possible Democratic as President. Which means no more Conservative judges on the Supreme Court. They will never be able to repeal Obama Care. The 2nd amendment might come under attack. Abortion will stay the law of the land. The tax cuts they just passed might be thrown out the window. The Military budget might go down. Plus Trump is so dumb and lazy, he will sign anything we stick under his nose to sign into law!!! So it would be pretty hard for 16 Republican Senators to vote for conviction!!!

    Do you see my logic????

    Let's just hope Trump doesn't have the stones to try this, but if he does???? I think he could get away with it!!!!!
    Last edited by etucker1959; 06-11-2018 at 08:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etucker1959 View Post
    At first it would sound absurd to the common person. If you look at that possibility more closely it's not as crazy as it sounds. After driving home from another disastrous fishing trip. (not even a bite) I threw this question at my friend Phil. He in-effect was arguing the con of that argument and I was arguing the possibility of that happening. At the end of our discussion, he came up with nothing that said it couldn't happening.

    The first question comes up was, has it ever crossed Trump's mind of becoming President for life. The answer is Yes!!! Just last month when the President of China declared himself President for life. Trump said, "Maybe we should try that!!" If your first argument is, "no politician would have the O dasity to do something that's never been done before." I want you to think back, to what Mitch McConnell did with Obama's last Supreme court nominee. (refused to bring him up for a vote)

    Here's how he could do it. In 2020 Trump could come up with any excuse to cancel the 2020 Presidential election. Safety is always a good excuse but the reason is irrelevant!! It's what you try to do about it, is what's important.

    Take it to the Supreme Court and claim his actions are Unconstitutional. Ok let's say you do it and it comes back 9 to nothing that Trumps action was Unconstitutional. Then what??? The Supreme court has no enforcement arm to enforce it's ruling. Trump say's, "I'm not listening to them" I'm staying!!!

    My friend Phil argued the army would force him out. Really the President is Commander and Chief of all the military. Do you really think some General would have enough troops loyal to him to take on the rest of the army. Nope not going to happen!!!

    The people would take to the streets and force him out. Just like they did in Ten Ann Men square in China. That's not going to work. People can protest all they want, but as long as Trump has the army backing him up. He's not going any where

    There is only 2 way's to get rid of a physco President and see if either of those 2 things would work.

    The first way is the 25th Amendment. This is where the majority of Trumps hand picked cabinet votes that he's incapacitated to do the job of President. Sorry folks that's not going to happen!!!

    The second way is Impeachment in the House and conviction in the Senate. I could see them vote and get an Impeachment majority in the House of Representatives. (especially if the Democrats take back the House) But it means nothing, if you don't get an conviction in the Senate. It takes an 2/3 vote of guilty in the Senate to get an conviction.

    Let's
    I'm keeping the quote for posterity's sake.

    Etucks,

    It's posts like these that make your side look like they're smoking crack, and thus, lessen your opinions on anything else that you post.

    That is all,

    DS


    p.s Recapitulate on this, as I'm not going to respond to your responses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkShadow View Post
    I'm keeping the quote for posterity's sake.

    Etucks,

    It's posts like these that make your side look like they're smoking crack, and thus, lessen your opinions on anything else that you post.

    That is all,

    DS


    p.s Recapitulate on this, as I'm not going to respond to your responses.
    Look the GD section is dead. Chucky and Steelhead try their best to come up with Conservative logic, but their no Hawggy! I do try to answer them with some civility. While others just insult them and call them names. So you really can't have any deep discussion anymore on here about politics. However, you can do some soap box rantings if you choose. I gave an conspiracy theory that is being reported by some radical pundits on the left. I gave an tongue and cheek (with crazy punctuation and spelling to razz a couple of board members) rendition of that theory. So it's really not meant to be responded too. Just read and enjoy!

    p.s. Imagine if it did really happen?
    Last edited by etucker1959; 06-11-2018 at 06:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etucker1959 View Post
    Look the GD section is dead.
    Ok I captured this so no funny editing can occur to the post.

    Etucker thinks this section is dead, so just kill it already!

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    Quote Originally Posted by seal View Post
    Ok I captured this so no funny editing can occur to the post.

    Etucker thinks this section is dead, so just kill it already!
    It's dead to serious debate!!! However, if someone wants to rant and give their farewell speech to the troops. Do we as an collective group have the right to deny them their final words to FNN? lol
    Last edited by etucker1959; 06-12-2018 at 10:55 AM.

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    There were similar conspiracy theories from conservatives when Obama was president. Of course it didn't happen. However, there might come a time when something like this does happen, and if so, the groundwork is being laid and we are getting closer to it all the time. I don't think any sitting president would dare bypass an election though.

    Dark Shadow, I thought you were on the same side more or less as ETucker and me. If not, whose side are you on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Lefty View Post
    Dark Shadow, I thought you were on the same side more or less as ETucker and me. If not, whose side are you on?
    NL,

    I think the problem with this entire thing is the fact that you're apparently supposed "to take sides."

    I have sided with many issues that the "right" has brought on, especially when it comes to the fiscal side.

    I have sided with many issues that the "left" has brought on.

    It isn't about choosing sides. It's about choosing your stances on the individual issues and reaching a compromise. The reason we're in this mess is because it seems you're apparently supposed to be partisan and choose a side, even though there may be negatives with the "side' that you are choosing.

    It's not black and white.

    When 'someone' on my side makes an asinine statement, I think it's duty on "our side" to call that guy out.

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    The part of this story to me that has legs. Is the part that we have 3 co-equal branches of government that is suppose to have checks & balances on each other. The Republican congress so far has not In my opinion, not checked Trump when he gets out of line.
    Last edited by etucker1959; 06-12-2018 at 02:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etucker1959 View Post
    The Republican congress so far has not In my opinion, not checked Trump when he gets out of line.
    Oh, and here we go, and I promised I wasn't going to do this.

    Etucker,

    What power do you think "The Republican congress" has to "check" Trump?

    I hope you're not even thinking of the "I" word.

    (Although a part of me thinks you actually are.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by seal View Post
    Ok I captured this so no funny editing can occur to the post.

    Etucker thinks this section is dead, so just kill it already!
    STFU seal. You know you cried at the end of Red Dawn.

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkShadow View Post
    Oh, and here we go, and I promised I wasn't going to do this.

    Etucker,

    What power do you think "The Republican congress" has to "check" Trump?

    I hope you're not even thinking of the "I" word.

    (Although a part of me thinks you actually are.)
    You know what I'd love to know? What all the Confederate flag-waving, gun-toting modern Patriots would do on response to such a Trump takeover. Probably baaaaah like the sheep they are.

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