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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUCKY View Post
    Are you a socialist? Everybody that works pays for everybody? Great idea. See Venezuela or even San Francisco. Let’s build a train and wind farms that cannot support our infrastructure. Why not shut down San onofre while we are at it. Flex alert for everyone. Sounds awesome doesn’t it.
    If you think the United States is 100% Capitalist state you are so wrong!!!! We have an mixed economy of Socialism and Capitialsim. The 2 biggest examples of Socialism that we have is Medicare and Social Security. Are you going to tell me with a straight face, when you turn 65, you are going to turn down Medicare and Social Security because you don't believe in Socialism? Come on now and tell me that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by etucker1959 View Post
    If you think the United States is 100% Capitalist state you are so wrong!!!! We have an mixed economy of Socialism and Capitialsim. The 2 biggest examples of Socialism that we have is Medicare and Social Security. Are you going to tell me with a straight face, when you turn 65, you are going to turn down Medicare and Social Security because you don't believe in Socialism? Come on now and tell me that?
    Why would I turn down my social security ? I’ve been paying into it since I was 15. I hope it’s there when I retire. It would be nice. I doubt it will be tho. The way this country is going I doubt it will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUCKY View Post
    Why would I turn down my social security ? I’ve been paying into it since I was 15. I hope it’s there when I retire. It would be nice. I doubt it will be tho. The way this country is going I doubt it will be.
    Why is it since S.S. was created Conservatives always doubt it will be there when they retire. (Here's a history lesson) Uncle Sam has never reneged on an debt it owed in it's history. The reason why, if you renege once people will never trust the government ever again! Back to your Social Security, that is a form of Socialism???? I bet you didn't know that! So you are a Socialist if you accept the money! lol
    Last edited by etucker1959; 08-23-2018 at 10:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etucker1959 View Post
    Why is it since S.S. was created Conservatives always doubt it will be there when they retire. (Here's a history lesson) Uncle Sam has never reneged on an debt it owed in it's history. The reason why, if you renege once people will never trust the government ever again! Back to your Social Security, that is a form of Socialism???? I bet you didn't know that! So you are a Socialist if you accept the money! lol
    Problem. You have 4 people in a cart, one person pulling. The cart will not go far with one person pulling 4. I’m not elligible for social security till age 72. Most likely I will never see a dime. I’m from the government I’m here to help you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUCKY View Post
    Problem. You have 4 people in a cart, one person pulling. The cart will not go far with one person pulling 4. I’m not elligible for social security till age 72. Most likely I will never see a dime. I’m from the government I’m here to help you.
    My father's Brother in law told him that same story in 1950. He died a couple of years ago, living the last 25 years on Social Security. Conservatives never change and repeat the same story's over and over again.

    Your cart story doesn't work for me. Why because you assume all people make equal amount's of money. Right????? The Roman Empire had an abundance of people with no work to do. (slavery displaced these workers) Do you think they went broke feeding them all and entertaining them? No they did not! Why because the Empire was Rich enough to have Bread and Circus for everybody. Same thing with the USA. Are we broke??? No but we have too much of the nations wealth in the hands of a very few.
    Last edited by etucker1959; 08-24-2018 at 12:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkShadow View Post
    You two should have a radio show.

    Chucks and Tucks in the Morning® on 1070 AM.

    People would be driving into walls.
    Thanks for the laugh that was good. (I do sports too)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHUCKY View Post
    Problem. You have 4 people in a cart, one person pulling. The cart will not go far with one person pulling 4. I’m not elligible for social security till age 72. Most likely I will never see a dime. I’m from the government I’m here to help you.
    I want to beat the horse some more about the 4 people and the cart. You do know there is some Conservative think tank thinking this stuff up to satisfy their audience. (I've heard this example before) It's designed to promote the thought that individualism is the way to go and the Hell with everyone else. It's not designed to pass scrutiny with the general public though, just you and your kind. Remember what Trump just said, "don't believe your eyes" believe what we tell you to believe! Or what Gliuliani said, "Truth is not the Truth!" You need to stop calling Trump your President. What he is your "Leader" and you must believe whatever your leader tells you to believe!

    Let's get back to the 4 people and the cart. Remember they gave this example to you and not some Liberal who could easily debunk that thought. What the 4 people and the cart message is, "all people must equally pull the cart or the cart won't go any where." (right?) Well if all 4 people did pull the cart, your then saying all people then should equally share the benefits. (right?) You do realize that's what Karl Marx wrote about in his book how to go from Capitalism to Socialism to Communism. So what are you saying CHUCKY? Your a Communist????? Bet you didn't see that coming?

    Back to the cart.

    If you ever saw the movie the Princess Bride with the guy who thought he was so smart. (the guy with the poison) He had a funny line I liked. The Hero said to the guy who was rambling along, are you done? His answer was, "I'm just getting started!!!"

    Back to the cart. (I'm serious this time)

    You said in your cart example, if only 1 person is pulling the cart it won't go very far. It's really a metaphor for all people working and paying tax's. You believe if everyone doesn't contribute to the system it will break down. (that's why you use that EBT card example all the time) Those people are getting Free money and don't have to work as hard as you do and it just kills you. (In business I wear down my opposing agent's the same way) lol

    But what you are forgetting we have an ingenious tax system. (it's based on the ability to pay)

    It start's with you take 100% of an nations wealth. You tax (Federally) the people that can afford to pay. Currently it's about 50% (remember Mitt in 2012 got caught saying, 47% of the people don't pay Federal tax's) He's right because it's based on the ability to pay. Now remember the occupy Wall street movement a few years back. It brought attention to the fact that 1% of the population owns 25% of all our nations wealth and that number is climbing. So for argument sake let's say that number is up to 30% by now. So back to your cart example. In reality 1 person (a 1% er) is pulling the cart with 30 people in it and it's doing just fine!!!!

    See how bad that cart example really is??? It's just trying to justify Individualism which is not the way to go. Otherwise we end up like India where 50% of the population eat's the garbage of the other 50%.
    Last edited by etucker1959; 08-24-2018 at 12:12 PM.

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    You two should have a radio show.

    Chucks and Tucks in the Morning® on 1070 AM.

    People would be driving into walls.


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  9. #179

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    Quote Originally Posted by etucker1959 View Post
    I want to beat the horse some more about the 4 people and the cart. You do know there is some Conservative think tank thinking this stuff up to satisfy their audience. (I've heard this example before) It's designed to promote the thought that individualism is the way to go and the Hell with everyone else. It's not designed to pass scrutiny with the general public though, just you and your kind. Remember what Trump just said, "don't believe your eyes" believe what we tell you to believe! Or what Gliuliani said, "Truth is not the Truth!" You need to stop calling Trump your President. What he is your "Leader" and you must believe whatever your leader tells you to believe!

    Let's get back to the 4 people and the cart. Remember they gave this example to you and not some Liberal who could easily debunk that thought. What the 4 people and the cart message is, "all people must equally pull the cart or the cart won't go any where." (right?) Well if all 4 people did pull the cart, your then saying all people then should equally share the benefits. (right?) You do realize that's what Karl Marx wrote about in his book how to go from Capitalism to Socialism to Communism. So what are you saying CHUCKY? Your a Communist????? Bet you didn't see that coming?

    Back to the cart.

    If you ever saw the movie the Princess Bride with the guy who thought he was so smart. (the guy with the poison) He had a funny line I liked. The Hero said to the guy who was rambling along, are you done? His answer was, "I'm just getting started!!!"

    Back to the cart. (I'm serious this time)

    You said in your cart example, if only 1 person is pulling the cart it won't go very far. It's really a metaphor for all people working and paying tax's. You believe if everyone doesn't contribute to the system it will break down. (that's why you use that EBT card example all the time) Those people are getting Free money and don't have to work as hard as you do and it just kills you. (In business I wear down my opposing agent's the same way) lol

    But what you are forgetting we have an ingenious tax system. (it's based on the ability to pay)

    It start's with you take 100% of an nations wealth. You tax (Federally) the people that can afford to pay. Currently it's about 50% (remember Mitt in 2012 got caught saying, 47% of the people don't pay Federal tax's) He's right because it's based on the ability to pay. Now remember the occupy Wall street movement a few years back. It brought attention to the fact that 1% of the population owns 25% of all our nations wealth and that number is climbing. So for argument sake let's say that number is up to 30% by now. So back to your cart example. In reality 1 person (a 1% er) is pulling the cart with 30 people in it and it's doing just fine!!!!

    See how bad that cart example really is??? It's just trying to justify Individualism which is not the way to go. Otherwise we end up like India where 50% of the population eat's the garbage of the other 50%.
    your last sentence reminds me of san francisco.

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    Chuckles,

    What's your thoughts on John McCain?

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