Looks like 4 more years !

[Natural Lefty]

Trump is the ultimate kettle calling the pot black with his "fake news" claims anytime something is reported that he doesn't agree with.

Meanwhile, Steelhead digs an even deeper hole for himself by implying that avowedly neutral Pew Research Center is a left wing organization. Pew Research Center has been around as long as I can remember, and it is pretty much the standard for good, unbiased polling research.

https://www.quora.com/Are-the-Pew-Re...eliable-source

https://www.reddit.com/r/NeutralPoli...f_information/

I wasn't the person who made the comment about CNN, by the way. I don't even watch cable television.

[steelhead]

How long something has been established does not make it the final say in anything. Have you heard of the disclaimer past performance does not guarantee future success??
Apply that same principle to the FBI, PEW, CBO, and pretty much all the major news outlets out there. Politics over the years and especially the last 8 years has taken a hold of these institutions that we knew to be fairly neutral and politicized them. The FBI was supposed to be non partisan, I would hardly call what happened the past 8 years non partisan with the bumblinbg of investigations by partisan hacks in the FBI.
Let's start with an exoneration letter before any interviews of the players were involved and let's have that guy that cleared the of any wrong doing take on the Trump collusion investigation while we're at it to make it seem really fair. The same guy that hates Trump and works behind the scenes with other anti trumpers to sabotage his presidency Let's bring on democrat prosecutors who all supported HRC, yeah there's nothing suspicious there. Seem fair to you?? So now we're on to stories about a porn star and the DNC is suing Russia... LOL what a mess



You mean Msnbc with their sources close to Trump like this one?
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...114040732.html

A bunch of fake news tv jockeys blowing hot air that's all.

Trump is the ultimate kettle calling the pot black with his "fake news" claims anytime something is reported that he doesn't agree with.

Meanwhile, Steelhead digs an even deeper hole for himself by implying that avowedly neutral Pew Research Center is a left wing organization. Pew Research Center has been around as long as I can remember, and it is pretty much the standard for good, unbiased polling research.

https://www.quora.com/Are-the-Pew-Re...eliable-source

https://www.reddit.com/r/NeutralPoli...f_information/

I wasn't the person who made the comment about CNN, by the way. I don't even watch cable television.

[etucker1959]

How long something has been established does not make it the final say in anything. Have you heard of the disclaimer past performance does not guarantee future success??
Apply that same principle to the FBI, PEW, CBO, and pretty much all the major news outlets out there. Politics over the years and especially the last 8 years has taken a hold of these institutions that we knew to be fairly neutral and politicized them. The FBI was supposed to be non partisan, I would hardly call what happened the past 8 years non partisan with the bumblinbg of investigations by partisan hacks in the FBI.
Let's start with an exoneration letter before any interviews of the players were involved and let's have that guy that cleared the of any wrong doing take on the Trump collusion investigation while we're at it to make it seem really fair. The same guy that hates Trump and works behind the scenes with other anti trumpers to sabotage his presidency Let's bring on democrat prosecutors who all supported HRC, yeah there's nothing suspicious there. Seem fair to you?? So now we're on to stories about a porn star and the DNC is suing Russia... LOL what a mess



You mean Msnbc with their sources close to Trump like this one?
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...114040732.html

A bunch of fake news tv jockeys blowing hot air that's all.

With the amount of lies Trump tells himself, why is it an honest mistake made by a News organization. Is given 100 times more ump then it dissevers???

Let me get in the pulpit and quote the Bible to prove my point in a different way. Why is it Conservatives see the speck in the eyes of legitimate News organizations. Yet ignore the log that is in Trumps eyes????

[Natural Lefty]

Yes, organizations of longstanding may have biases, but even recent reviews of Pew Research Center tend to praise it for accuracy and impartiality.

Now, let's go to another line of research, which is analyzing actual voting patterns in different counties by variables such as average education level, average income and percentage of white voters. Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight did this in his article entitled Education, Not Income, Predicted Who Would Vote For Trump, with similar results to that of the Pew Research Center. You didn't think I would go to the mound throwing only fastballs did you?

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...ote-for-trump/

[steelhead]

You mean this Silver the one that gave Trump a whopping 15% chance of winning the election? Trying to make the connection between education level and Trump supporters makes me think you were a HRC supporter so no wonder the outrage at Trump's presidency. I do recall a "deplorable" comment the almost President made.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nate-...175346480.html

Yes, organizations of longstanding may have biases, but even recent reviews of Pew Research Center tend to praise it for accuracy and impartiality.

Now, let's go to another line of research, which is analyzing actual voting patterns in different counties by variables such as average education level, average income and percentage of white voters. Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight did this in his article entitled Education, Not Income, Predicted Who Would Vote For Trump, with similar results to that of the Pew Research Center. You didn't think I would go to the mound throwing only fastballs did you?

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...ote-for-trump/

[DarkShadow]

TTrying to make the connection between education level and Trump supporters makes me think you were a HRC supporter so no wonder the outrage at Trump's presidency. I do recall a "deplorable" comment the almost President made.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nate-...175346480.html

Speaking of recalling comments:

""I love the poorly educated," Trump famously said after winning the Nevada Caucuses in February, 2016."

Steelplate, why do you think he would say he loves the poorly educated?

[steelhead]

Generalization as usual, you guys love to generalize and put people into boxes, thus the identity politics. Are there uneducated Trump voters, you bet but look at the lot of you lumping groups together and finger pointing. Look at Lefty's comment generalizing Trump supporters as poorly educated, condescending much?
[QUOTE=DarkShadow;795613]Speaking of recalling comments:

""I love the poorly educated," Trump famously said after winning the Nevada Caucuses in February, 2016."

Steelplate, why do you think he would say he loves the poorly educated?[/QUOTE

[etucker1959]

You mean this Silver the one that gave Trump a whopping 15% chance of winning the election? Trying to make the connection between education level and Trump supporters makes me think you were a HRC supporter so no wonder the outrage at Trump's presidency. I do recall a "deplorable" comment the almost President made.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nate-...175346480.html

Long shots do come in sometimes. But how would you predict the dumb stunt Comey did right before the election. Trump did lose the popular vote by almost 3 million votes. I think it time to get rid of the Electoral College!!!

[Natural Lefty]

Yes, Silver correctly predicted the outcome of every state in the 2008 and 2012 elections, I think. The vote in this election was within the margin of error, percentage-wise, but the distribution of the votes threw several states narrowly to Trump and gave him the election due to the Electoral College. His math really was pretty close overall though. I agree that we should get rid of the Electoral College, Eric, and also, add some reasonable qualifications in order for a person to become president.

I am most definitely not a fan of the Clintons, either one of them, but I did prefer Hillary over the alternative.

[steelhead]

What dumb stunt, are you saying Comey actually tried to help Trump? That's a good one Tucker. Trump won despite the establishment doing everything they can to stop him, Comey did him no favor, remember Comey has gone on record to say that he thought Clinton was oging to win and did not want any air of uncertainty about the investigation to delegitimize her presidency so he cleared her of all wrong doing and the 10 days before the election only to pop the GOP balloon again with a few days to go saying that there was nothing new and she was cleared for the umpteenth time. You're on the popular vote again? Do you want to rewrite the electoral process?? California has NO voter ID law and anybody applying for a driver's license can check a box to register to vote and have ballots sent home for absentee.
Yeah there's no potential for fraud there. Want to buy a bridge in havasu?

Long shots do come in sometimes. But how would you predict the dumb stunt Comey did right before the election. Trump did lose the popular vote by almost 3 million votes. I think it time to get rid of the Electoral College!!!