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    I think Pew Research is considered pretty impartial and respectable. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...der-education/

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    Yeah, I also remember the comment one of you made about CNN being one of the honest bastions of journalism last year. It is hilarious the untruths reported by liberal leaning media outlets and groups touting non partisanship.

    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Lefty View Post
    I think Pew Research is considered pretty impartial and respectable. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...der-education/

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    I don't have time to parse every single FAKE story on FAKE news but I'm having fun debating you all so let me see if I can find FAKE news and point out the fake news "tell" in the story; apparently your fake news discriminators are not working and need to be recalibrated.


    Quote Originally Posted by etucker1959 View Post
    That's an interesting point you say about the exit polls make up of "who" voted for Trump. (higher educated people) For argument sake I'll agree with you. Now their saying, Trump supporters are mostly white males with little higher education.

    Why I say that's an interesting point is, "the higher educated people" who voted for Trump. Have now according to the latest polls, "have abandoned Trump" and left mostly white male uneducated supporters.

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    Remember the Arsenio Hall show in the 1990's with his segment called "Things that make you go hmmm?"" I haven't heard much as a peep about the Prison riots that killed 7 and injured 17 in South Carolina by MSM have you?? Yet when some guys got kicked out of a starbucks for not purchasing coffee it was wall to wall coverage....and.... debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelhead View Post
    Yeah, I also remember the comment one of you made about CNN being one of the honest bastions of journalism last year. It is hilarious the untruths reported by liberal leaning media outlets and groups touting non partisanship.
    I won't even try to defend CNN, but I would defend MSNBC with my last breath. However, the biggest Fake News (aka liar) is Donald Trump himself!! Some people are keeping track and have Trump with over an 1,000's lies in a little over a year as President.

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    Trump is the ultimate kettle calling the pot black with his "fake news" claims anytime something is reported that he doesn't agree with.

    Meanwhile, Steelhead digs an even deeper hole for himself by implying that avowedly neutral Pew Research Center is a left wing organization. Pew Research Center has been around as long as I can remember, and it is pretty much the standard for good, unbiased polling research.

    https://www.quora.com/Are-the-Pew-Re...eliable-source

    https://www.reddit.com/r/NeutralPoli...f_information/

    I wasn't the person who made the comment about CNN, by the way. I don't even watch cable television.
    Last edited by Natural Lefty; 04-21-2018 at 11:10 PM.

  7. #67

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    How long something has been established does not make it the final say in anything. Have you heard of the disclaimer past performance does not guarantee future success??
    Apply that same principle to the FBI, PEW, CBO, and pretty much all the major news outlets out there. Politics over the years and especially the last 8 years has taken a hold of these institutions that we knew to be fairly neutral and politicized them. The FBI was supposed to be non partisan, I would hardly call what happened the past 8 years non partisan with the bumblinbg of investigations by partisan hacks in the FBI.
    Let's start with an exoneration letter before any interviews of the players were involved and let's have that guy that cleared the of any wrong doing take on the Trump collusion investigation while we're at it to make it seem really fair. The same guy that hates Trump and works behind the scenes with other anti trumpers to sabotage his presidency Let's bring on democrat prosecutors who all supported HRC, yeah there's nothing suspicious there. Seem fair to you?? So now we're on to stories about a porn star and the DNC is suing Russia... LOL what a mess



    You mean Msnbc with their sources close to Trump like this one?
    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...114040732.html

    A bunch of fake news tv jockeys blowing hot air that's all.






    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Lefty View Post
    Trump is the ultimate kettle calling the pot black with his "fake news" claims anytime something is reported that he doesn't agree with.

    Meanwhile, Steelhead digs an even deeper hole for himself by implying that avowedly neutral Pew Research Center is a left wing organization. Pew Research Center has been around as long as I can remember, and it is pretty much the standard for good, unbiased polling research.

    https://www.quora.com/Are-the-Pew-Re...eliable-source

    https://www.reddit.com/r/NeutralPoli...f_information/

    I wasn't the person who made the comment about CNN, by the way. I don't even watch cable television.
    Last edited by steelhead; 04-22-2018 at 08:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelhead View Post
    How long something has been established does not make it the final say in anything. Have you heard of the disclaimer past performance does not guarantee future success??
    Apply that same principle to the FBI, PEW, CBO, and pretty much all the major news outlets out there. Politics over the years and especially the last 8 years has taken a hold of these institutions that we knew to be fairly neutral and politicized them. The FBI was supposed to be non partisan, I would hardly call what happened the past 8 years non partisan with the bumblinbg of investigations by partisan hacks in the FBI.
    Let's start with an exoneration letter before any interviews of the players were involved and let's have that guy that cleared the of any wrong doing take on the Trump collusion investigation while we're at it to make it seem really fair. The same guy that hates Trump and works behind the scenes with other anti trumpers to sabotage his presidency Let's bring on democrat prosecutors who all supported HRC, yeah there's nothing suspicious there. Seem fair to you?? So now we're on to stories about a porn star and the DNC is suing Russia... LOL what a mess



    You mean Msnbc with their sources close to Trump like this one?
    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...114040732.html

    A bunch of fake news tv jockeys blowing hot air that's all.
    With the amount of lies Trump tells himself, why is it an honest mistake made by a News organization. Is given 100 times more ump then it dissevers???

    Let me get in the pulpit and quote the Bible to prove my point in a different way. Why is it Conservatives see the speck in the eyes of legitimate News organizations. Yet ignore the log that is in Trumps eyes????
    Last edited by etucker1959; 04-22-2018 at 02:07 PM.

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    Yes, organizations of longstanding may have biases, but even recent reviews of Pew Research Center tend to praise it for accuracy and impartiality.

    Now, let's go to another line of research, which is analyzing actual voting patterns in different counties by variables such as average education level, average income and percentage of white voters. Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight did this in his article entitled Education, Not Income, Predicted Who Would Vote For Trump, with similar results to that of the Pew Research Center. You didn't think I would go to the mound throwing only fastballs did you?

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...ote-for-trump/
    Last edited by Natural Lefty; 04-22-2018 at 08:35 PM.

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    You mean this Silver the one that gave Trump a whopping 15% chance of winning the election? Trying to make the connection between education level and Trump supporters makes me think you were a HRC supporter so no wonder the outrage at Trump's presidency. I do recall a "deplorable" comment the almost President made.
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nate-...175346480.html

    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Lefty View Post
    Yes, organizations of longstanding may have biases, but even recent reviews of Pew Research Center tend to praise it for accuracy and impartiality.

    Now, let's go to another line of research, which is analyzing actual voting patterns in different counties by variables such as average education level, average income and percentage of white voters. Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight did this in his article entitled Education, Not Income, Predicted Who Would Vote For Trump, with similar results to that of the Pew Research Center. You didn't think I would go to the mound throwing only fastballs did you?

    http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...ote-for-trump/

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