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Thread: Minimum Wage Hikes offer better quality of Life for working families

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    Typical entitled !###hole leftist that thinks the world owes him, last i checked if you don't like what you're paid complain like you are now and if that doesn't work go find a better paying job dip$shIP! It's called at will employment, ever heard of it? It means you can quit anytime you want and they can refuse to meet your wage demands or fire your *** anytime they want. You are making $10.50 working in a life saving surgery, tell us are you performing the surgery?? Oh wait are you the assistant to the trainee EMT that carts people around the hospital? Are you the scheduler? Hey I can do that too sign me up!

    By the way I'd hate to have procedure done at whatever hole in the wall clinic you're at. It's bad enough to deal with a serious medical condition but then to have some disgruntled, mal adjusted a hole who's not happy with his job assisting in the procedure, no thanks



    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Quagga View Post
    Sorry dip$hit, but let's ask again:

    How would you like to know that someone working on your son's lifesaving surgery was working a straight 10.50 an hour?

    And before you answer with your "skilled/educated worker" schlemiel, realize you've lost this one......

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelhead View Post
    Typical entitled !###hole leftist that thinks the world owes him, last i checked if you don't like what you're paid complain like you are now and if that doesn't work go find a better paying job dip$shIP! It's called at will employment, ever heard of it? It means you can quit anytime you want and they can refuse to meet your wage demands or fire your *** anytime they want. You are making $10.50 working in a life saving surgery, tell us are you performing the surgery?? Oh wait are you the assistant to the trainee EMT that carts people around the hospital? Are you the scheduler? Hey I can do that too sign me up!

    By the way I'd hate to have procedure done at whatever hole in the wall clinic you're at. It's bad enough to deal with a serious medical condition but then to have some disgruntled, mal adjusted a hole who's not happy with his job assisting in the procedure, no thanks
    Oh geez sorry fucknut, looks like you made a bunch of assumptions.

    So let's try it again, and you can reply when you are sober.

    How would you like to know that someone working on your son's lifesaving surgery was working a straight 10.50 an hour?

    And before you answer with your "skilled/educated worker" schlemiel, realize you've lost this one......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Quagga View Post
    Oh geez sorry fucknut, looks like you made a bunch of assumptions.

    So let's try it again, and you can reply when you are sober.

    How would you like to know that someone working on your son's lifesaving surgery was working a straight 10.50 an hour?

    And before you answer with your "skilled/educated worker" schlemiel, realize you've lost this one......













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    Quote Originally Posted by steelhead View Post
    Or not. It seems you takers with your hands out thinking these EVIL GOPers who've been suppressing the common man from earning a living wage didn't really understand the impact of wealth redistribution. Yes go on raise gas taxes, raise minimum wage, it'll be better for everyone! Never mind that it goes against all conventional wisdom- after all California's been able to thrive despite all the idiots in Sacramento right?

    Unintended consequences but Im sure you lib cheerleaders with MBA's from Wharton saw that coming from a mile, wait i take that back all you armchair couch potato financial analysts saw that coming from a mile.

    McDonald's hits all-time high as Wall Street cheers replacement of cashiers with kiosks
    http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/20/mcdon...th-kiosks.html

    Seattle's $15 minimum wage may be hurting workers, report finds
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...ers/431424001/
    It hurts their profits and stock prices and we all know that's ALL that matters to them. They could pay more and take less profit, but they won't. They want the poor working class fighting with each other over a higher minimum wage while they make higher profits. It ALL comes down to greed and greed is the downfall of a capitalist society. Once enough separation of classes is attained, the poor finally get mad enough and rebel against the rigged system. If we keep going the way we are where nothing but profits means anything, we will be in a revolution eventually. Papa John living in a $60 million dollar mansion while cutting his workers hours to avoid any profit losses for providing minimum health insurance disgusting. We (taxpayers)are financing the minimum wage workers health insurance instead of the employer. Sure, you are free to make as much money as possible, but people are free to react to it as well and the masses are getting fed up. This goes for the poor working class in both blue and red states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brent View Post
    It hurts their profits and stock prices and we all know that's ALL that matters to them. They could pay more and take less profit, but they won't. They want the poor working class fighting with each other over a higher minimum wage while they make higher profits. It ALL comes down to greed and greed is the downfall of a capitalist society. Once enough separation of classes is attained, the poor finally get mad enough and rebel against the rigged system. If we keep going the way we are where nothing but profits means anything, we will be in a revolution eventually. Papa John living in a $60 million dollar mansion while cutting his workers hours to avoid any profit losses for providing minimum health insurance disgusting. We (taxpayers)are financing the minimum wage workers health insurance instead of the employer. Sure, you are free to make as much money as possible, but people are free to react to it as well and the masses are getting fed up. This goes for the poor working class in both blue and red states.
    Here Here!!!! Nicely said, with the Republicans supporting business and screwing the common man what's next to happen??? Revolution???? Hell No!!!!!! But I do have a plan!!!!

    The system is now rigged for uninhabited America and greedy people to control politics. There isn't much we can do too uninhabited America unless you start changing the Constitution. (that will never happen) Let me explain that real quick about what is uninhabited America. California has the 6th largest economy in the world and we have 40 million people living here. The 2 states of Dakotas (North & South) with a population of a few million people combined, get 4 Senators in the US Senate. While California with 40 million people get only 2 Senators. See how it's rigged for uninhabited America to elect the "WRONG" kind of people to govern. Since we can't do anything about that without changing the Constitution, we have to go after the greedy people.

    You go after them with your dollars!!!! Warren Buffet is a Billionaire with a heart. He owns many company's and people should single him out to do business with his company's.The coke brothers are bastards and they support and finance Conserative ideas. This can go for small business too. But your wondering how you would identify which company's support Democratic ideas or Republican ideas. That's really simple, just use the logo's of the political party's. If they have an elephant some where in their place of business, their identifing they believe in Republican ideas. If they have a Jackass posted somewhere on their business, they support Democratic ideas. You heard that idea first from me on FNN!!! lol
    Last edited by etucker1959; 07-05-2017 at 01:07 PM.

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    what would happen to your household

    if you had kids



    let's say 3 of them

    and from the 1st day you asked them

    to take their toys into their rooms

    and

    to clean their bedrooms while they're in there...






    you had to start paying them wages?

    let's say $10.50 cents an hour...

    you had to pay that

    gov't monitored your kids time cards

    (because they already collect taxes on your 3 kids' wages , you know to be able to fund all the other "takers" who don't work yet...)





    then one day gov't decides to raise the minimum wage you pay your kids to $15.00 an hour?




    you know, to protect your kids and make sure they had a living wage...





    what would something like that do to your household budget?

    you already pay for their health coverage, lunches and breaks, vacation time

    would you cut their hours?

    pick up their toys and clean their bedrooms for them?

    hire a nanny? one worker picking and cleaning up as opposed to 3... !!!





    geeze, what else do you want gov't to stick their grubby little paws in?





    hmmm?

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    You are advocating for socialism not capitalism which is what makes this country great and what it was founded upon. Hard work should be rewarded and those that work harder should get ahead. How would you like to be a small business owner who puts in 70 hour weeks to get ahead and one of you suggest that he or she be taxed a higher rate so as to be on equal footing with someone who works 40 hours a week and makes less money. Does that sound fair to you? If your argument is for wage mandates then the corporations also can react by cutting back on hours leading to loss of benefits, et al. I see where you are all going with this, have government control every aspect of your life from single payer health care to providing a wage high enough where everybody can buy their own Toyota Tercels and afford a week of vacation. I know just the place not too far look no further than Canada- try it out. :-)

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    That's soooo funny a capitalist with a heart . I started work at Douglas May 1979 $7.22 a hour . Mandatory to pay union dues . 37 1/2 yrs later I was making $38.00 . Due the math on that a less than dollar a year pay increase << on a muilt Billion Dollar Program . All cost factored at 1983-93 Cola,s this covered the ship engines engineering staff bldgs lights power . Warren has a heart that beats for dollars . If you told him as of now you don't have the cash you had . What kinda of attitude do you think he would now . Yes less because I kicked in for my medical pension taxes . Now I get a pension and my medical cost >>> wait for it <<< $22 A month , do I wish my daughter to have what I have HELL YEAH . I wish everybody made a good living . Would my happy meal cost more hmm. Yep . Would it make me stay home and not get what I need . Or stop supporting Mom & Pop no I would keep going and keep doing same thing . If the middle class isn't the middle , but the new just making . You won't have a middle class that votes , for fool Birine Sanders Nancy Pelosi. And no I never vote democrat. They never done a FN thing for me or you . My Mother a GOP voting former hospital administrator always made a habit . Too cut local contractors vendors a break in biding and work . She was recognized by the left and the right in this STATE by Sacramento governors office on down to local churches as a player . How didn't about politics , only fairness . A min wage the state is hucking out . Isn't up to date or in reality . As you know the state doesn't have to bring on line the full min wage till 2020-24 . You want the title guy to stay in business. Go support them , you want them to fail stay home .

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelhead View Post
    You are advocating for socialism not capitalism which is what makes this country great and what it was founded upon. Hard work should be rewarded and those that work harder should get ahead. How would you like to be a small business owner who puts in 70 hour weeks to get ahead and one of you suggest that he or she be taxed a higher rate so as to be on equal footing with someone who works 40 hours a week and makes less money. Does that sound fair to you? If your argument is for wage mandates then the corporations also can react by cutting back on hours leading to loss of benefits, et al. I see where you are all going with this, have government control every aspect of your life from single payer health care to providing a wage high enough where everybody can buy their own Toyota Tercels and afford a week of vacation. I know just the place not too far look no further than Canada- try it out. :-)
    If you think this country is great, you must recognize we are not a pure Capitalist nation. We are a combination of Socialism and Capitalism. The question is the balance of the two, do we lean more to the Socialism side or to the Capitalistic side. If you don't recognize that you need to crack a book on the subject. That's the problem with people in Rural America and why they always vote Republican. (They don't understand the difference either) Kentucky is a model state for Obama Care and how well it works there. Yet the 2 Senators who are leading the fight to get rid of it, Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul are both from Kentucky. I would love to see them repeal it and then explain to their constitutes how they are free'er now without their Health Care.
    Last edited by etucker1959; 07-06-2017 at 08:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etucker1959 View Post
    If you think this country is great, you must recognize we are not a pure Capitalist nation. We are a combination of Socialism and Capitalism. The question is the balance of the two, do we lean more to the Socialism side or the Capitalistic side. If you don't recognize that you need to crack a book on the subject. That's the problem with people in Rural America and why they always vote Republican. They don't understand the difference either. Kentucky is a model state for Obama Care and how well it works there. Yet the 2 Senators who are leading the fight to get rid of it, Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul are both from Kentucky. I would love to see them repeal it and then explain to their constitutes how they are free'er now without their Health Care.

    rural folk probably work harder than city folk. they wake up with the sun, eat breakfast, head to work. city wakes up and heads to a local starbutts. rural walk out their front door and starts working; lifting, shoveling, "tractoring" (i'm spit balling here). city sits in their cars listening to talk radio or some other crappie morning radio show for their hour long commute. city gets off at 5. rural works til the day's shadow is long.

    they vote red... because they don't want to give away the farm. they worked hard to get it, hard to keep it, and harder to maintain it.

    they understand the differences of soc. and cap.

    these rurals probably work hard enough to buy d umb ama care, but hey, if they can get it at the "not so real" market price, i'm sure they'd take it (once they figure out that loophole, they's always a loophole, no?)

    they'd probably let you buy them a new tractor tire too, you sound willing to subsidize just about everything...how many can i sign you up for?

    most Kentuckians would probably feel more free, if dumbama care was trashed.... then they wouldn't have to subsidize the takers in country, where ever they came from or whoever they may be ... (many takers are out of work, i'm sure, and need that assistance thooge)





    our country is turning into a cesspool of pansies that want stuff given to them (the socialist philosophy rearing it's ugly head)... safe zones, non-gender zones, gun free zones, $15/hour zones, no trump zones ... not to mention food stamps housing phones you know freeeeeeee mattresses! etc etc etc.

    why would anyone work if you give them whatever they want? have everyone else foot the bill and see a true uprising in 'Murica

    did you not watch the last election?







    at all?


    missed the whole show, did ya?

    well wel well








    here's a read for ya

    1. Socialism is the Big Lie of the twentieth century. While it promised prosperity, equality, and security, it delivered poverty, misery, and tyranny. Equality was achieved only in the sense that everyone was equal in his or her misery.

    In the same way that a Ponzi scheme or chain letter initially succeeds but eventually collapses, socialism may show early signs of success. But any accomplishments quickly fade as the fundamental deficiencies of central planning emerge. It is the initial illusion of success that gives government intervention its pernicious, seductive appeal. In the long run, socialism has always proven to be a formula for tyranny and misery.

    A pyramid scheme is ultimately unsustainable because it is based on faulty principles. Likewise, collectivism is unsustainable in the long run because it is a flawed theory. Socialism does not work because it is not consistent with fundamental principles of human behavior. The failure of socialism in countries around the world can be traced to one critical defect: it is a system that ignores incentives.

    In a capitalist economy, incentives are of the utmost importance. Market prices, the profit-and-loss system of accounting, and private property rights provide an efficient, interrelated system of incentives to guide and direct economic behavior. Capitalism is based on the theory that incentives matter!

    Under socialism, incentives either play a minimal role or are ignored totally. A centrally planned economy without market prices or profits, where property is owned by the state, is a system without an effective incentive mechanism to direct economic activity. By failing to emphasize incentives, socialism is a theory inconsistent with human nature and is therefore doomed to fail. Socialism is based on the theory that incentives don’t matter!

    2. The strength of capitalism can be attributed to an incentive structure based upon the three Ps: (1) prices determined by market forces, (2) a profit-and-loss system of accounting and (3) private property rights. The failure of socialism can be traced to its neglect of these three incentive-enhancing components.

    3. By their failure to foster, promote, and nurture the potential of their people through incentive-enhancing institutions, centrally planned economies deprive the human spirit of full development. Socialism fails because it kills and destroys the human spirit–just ask the people leaving Cuba in homemade rafts and boats [and those waiting in long lines today in Venezuela struggling, and often failing, to buy food].

    4. The temptress of socialism is constantly luring us with the offer: “give up a little of your freedom and I will give you a little more security.” As the experience of this century has demonstrated, the bargain is tempting but never pays off. We end up losing both our freedom and our security.

    Socialism will remain a constant temptation. We must be vigilant in our fight against socialism not only around the globe but also here in the United States.

    The failure of socialism inspired a worldwide renaissance of freedom and liberty. For the first time in the history of the world, the day is coming very soon when a majority of the people in the world will live in free societies or societies rapidly moving toward freedom.
    Capitalism will play a major role in the global revival of liberty and prosperity because it nurtures the human spirit, inspires human creativity, and promotes the spirit of enterprise. By providing a powerful system of incentives that promote thrift, hard work, and efficiency, capitalism creates wealth.
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