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    ultimately

    minimum wage laws

    are an

    end run tactic

    to redistribute wealth,

    more socialism?

    probably.



    it's a tax on the haves (the barely haves, and what a sneaky way to tax them poor bass tards)

    that still gives it to the

    have nots

    without having to raise the tax percentage ratio

    and look even worse as gov't officials





    higher tax ratios? would probably create more havoc

    for the less capitalistic minded

    AND

    they already lost the big election when

    they thooget they had it in the bag




    you can't fool the red team!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hookdfisherman View Post
    rural folk probably work harder than city folk. they wake up with the sun, eat breakfast, head to work. city wakes up and heads to a local starbutts. rural walk out their front door and starts working; lifting, shoveling, "tractoring" (i'm spit balling here). city sits in their cars listening to talk radio or some other crappie morning radio show for their hour long commute. city gets off at 5. rural works til the day's shadow is long.

    they vote red... because they don't want to give away the farm. they worked hard to get it, hard to keep it, and harder to maintain it.

    they understand the differences of soc. and cap.

    these rurals probably work hard enough to buy d umb ama care, but hey, if they can get it at the "not so real" market price, i'm sure they'd take it (once they figure out that loophole, they's always a loophole, no?)

    they'd probably let you buy them a new tractor tire too, you sound willing to subsidize just about everything...how many can i sign you up for?

    most Kentuckians would probably feel more free, if dumbama care was trashed.... then they wouldn't have to subsidize the takers in country, where ever they came from or whoever they may be ... (many takers are out of work, i'm sure, and need that assistance thooge)





    our country is turning into a cesspool of pansies that want stuff given to them (the socialist philosophy rearing it's ugly head)... safe zones, non-gender zones, gun free zones, $15/hour zones, no trump zones ... not to mention food stamps housing phones you know freeeeeeee mattresses! etc etc etc.

    why would anyone work if you give them whatever they want? have everyone else foot the bill and see a true uprising in 'Murica

    did you not watch the last election?







    at all?


    missed the whole show, did ya?

    well wel well








    here's a read for ya

    1. Socialism is the Big Lie of the twentieth century. While it promised prosperity, equality, and security, it delivered poverty, misery, and tyranny. Equality was achieved only in the sense that everyone was equal in his or her misery.

    In the same way that a Ponzi scheme or chain letter initially succeeds but eventually collapses, socialism may show early signs of success. But any accomplishments quickly fade as the fundamental deficiencies of central planning emerge. It is the initial illusion of success that gives government intervention its pernicious, seductive appeal. In the long run, socialism has always proven to be a formula for tyranny and misery.

    A pyramid scheme is ultimately unsustainable because it is based on faulty principles. Likewise, collectivism is unsustainable in the long run because it is a flawed theory. Socialism does not work because it is not consistent with fundamental principles of human behavior. The failure of socialism in countries around the world can be traced to one critical defect: it is a system that ignores incentives.

    In a capitalist economy, incentives are of the utmost importance. Market prices, the profit-and-loss system of accounting, and private property rights provide an efficient, interrelated system of incentives to guide and direct economic behavior. Capitalism is based on the theory that incentives matter!

    Under socialism, incentives either play a minimal role or are ignored totally. A centrally planned economy without market prices or profits, where property is owned by the state, is a system without an effective incentive mechanism to direct economic activity. By failing to emphasize incentives, socialism is a theory inconsistent with human nature and is therefore doomed to fail. Socialism is based on the theory that incentives don’t matter!

    2. The strength of capitalism can be attributed to an incentive structure based upon the three Ps: (1) prices determined by market forces, (2) a profit-and-loss system of accounting and (3) private property rights. The failure of socialism can be traced to its neglect of these three incentive-enhancing components.

    3. By their failure to foster, promote, and nurture the potential of their people through incentive-enhancing institutions, centrally planned economies deprive the human spirit of full development. Socialism fails because it kills and destroys the human spirit–just ask the people leaving Cuba in homemade rafts and boats [and those waiting in long lines today in Venezuela struggling, and often failing, to buy food].

    4. The temptress of socialism is constantly luring us with the offer: “give up a little of your freedom and I will give you a little more security.” As the experience of this century has demonstrated, the bargain is tempting but never pays off. We end up losing both our freedom and our security.

    Socialism will remain a constant temptation. We must be vigilant in our fight against socialism not only around the globe but also here in the United States.

    The failure of socialism inspired a worldwide renaissance of freedom and liberty. For the first time in the history of the world, the day is coming very soon when a majority of the people in the world will live in free societies or societies rapidly moving toward freedom.
    Capitalism will play a major role in the global revival of liberty and prosperity because it nurtures the human spirit, inspires human creativity, and promotes the spirit of enterprise. By providing a powerful system of incentives that promote thrift, hard work, and efficiency, capitalism creates wealth.
    Boom! Good post and certainly the truth but I hope you don't expect these loons to "get it".
    Last edited by HawgZWylde; 07-06-2017 at 04:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawgZWylde View Post
    Boom! Good post and certainly the truth but I hope you don't expect these loons to "get it".
    This is the perfect marriage here on FNN. The Meth Head village idiot, who spends 90% of his time responding to his own post's. With a Super Hard Core Conservative who doesn't know after 6 months of his party controlling both Houses of Congress and the White House. That everything he believed in when tried to be implemented in practice, so far has been a total failure!!!! (not just politically, but to mankind and the planet) If you don't believe me on that one, just ask the 2008 Republican nominee for President. Now Senator McCain will openly tell you, "things were going along much better under President Obama!!!!"
    Last edited by etucker1959; 07-06-2017 at 10:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hookdfisherman View Post
    rural folk probably work harder than city folk. they wake up with the sun, eat breakfast, head to work. city wakes up and heads to a local starbutts. rural walk out their front door and starts working; lifting, shoveling, "tractoring" (i'm spit balling here). city sits in their cars listening to talk radio or some other crappie morning radio show for their hour long commute. city gets off at 5. rural works til the day's shadow is long.

    they vote red... because they don't want to give away the farm. they worked hard to get it, hard to keep it, and harder to maintain it.

    they understand the differences of soc. and cap.

    these rurals probably work hard enough to buy d umb ama care, but hey, if they can get it at the "not so real" market price, i'm sure they'd take it (once they figure out that loophole, they's always a loophole, no?)

    they'd probably let you buy them a new tractor tire too, you sound willing to subsidize just about everything...how many can i sign you up for?

    most Kentuckians would probably feel more free, if dumbama care was trashed.... then they wouldn't have to subsidize the takers in country, where ever they came from or whoever they may be ... (many takers are out of work, i'm sure, and need that assistance thooge)





    our country is turning into a cesspool of pansies that want stuff given to them (the socialist philosophy rearing it's ugly head)... safe zones, non-gender zones, gun free zones, $15/hour zones, no trump zones ... not to mention food stamps housing phones you know freeeeeeee mattresses! etc etc etc.

    why would anyone work if you give them whatever they want? have everyone else foot the bill and see a true uprising in 'Murica

    did you not watch the last election?







    at all?


    missed the whole show, did ya?

    well wel well








    here's a read for ya

    1. Socialism is the Big Lie of the twentieth century. While it promised prosperity, equality, and security, it delivered poverty, misery, and tyranny. Equality was achieved only in the sense that everyone was equal in his or her misery.

    In the same way that a Ponzi scheme or chain letter initially succeeds but eventually collapses, socialism may show early signs of success. But any accomplishments quickly fade as the fundamental deficiencies of central planning emerge. It is the initial illusion of success that gives government intervention its pernicious, seductive appeal. In the long run, socialism has always proven to be a formula for tyranny and misery.

    A pyramid scheme is ultimately unsustainable because it is based on faulty principles. Likewise, collectivism is unsustainable in the long run because it is a flawed theory. Socialism does not work because it is not consistent with fundamental principles of human behavior. The failure of socialism in countries around the world can be traced to one critical defect: it is a system that ignores incentives.

    In a capitalist economy, incentives are of the utmost importance. Market prices, the profit-and-loss system of accounting, and private property rights provide an efficient, interrelated system of incentives to guide and direct economic behavior. Capitalism is based on the theory that incentives matter!

    Under socialism, incentives either play a minimal role or are ignored totally. A centrally planned economy without market prices or profits, where property is owned by the state, is a system without an effective incentive mechanism to direct economic activity. By failing to emphasize incentives, socialism is a theory inconsistent with human nature and is therefore doomed to fail. Socialism is based on the theory that incentives don’t matter!

    2. The strength of capitalism can be attributed to an incentive structure based upon the three Ps: (1) prices determined by market forces, (2) a profit-and-loss system of accounting and (3) private property rights. The failure of socialism can be traced to its neglect of these three incentive-enhancing components.

    3. By their failure to foster, promote, and nurture the potential of their people through incentive-enhancing institutions, centrally planned economies deprive the human spirit of full development. Socialism fails because it kills and destroys the human spirit–just ask the people leaving Cuba in homemade rafts and boats [and those waiting in long lines today in Venezuela struggling, and often failing, to buy food].

    4. The temptress of socialism is constantly luring us with the offer: “give up a little of your freedom and I will give you a little more security.” As the experience of this century has demonstrated, the bargain is tempting but never pays off. We end up losing both our freedom and our security.

    Socialism will remain a constant temptation. We must be vigilant in our fight against socialism not only around the globe but also here in the United States.

    The failure of socialism inspired a worldwide renaissance of freedom and liberty. For the first time in the history of the world, the day is coming very soon when a majority of the people in the world will live in free societies or societies rapidly moving toward freedom.
    Capitalism will play a major role in the global revival of liberty and prosperity because it nurtures the human spirit, inspires human creativity, and promotes the spirit of enterprise. By providing a powerful system of incentives that promote thrift, hard work, and efficiency, capitalism creates wealth.

    ZZZounds like someone else is having a little pissy fit too

    who gives a epucker what mccain says anyways?

    is that really your defense in all this debatery?



    go ask mccain to explain what HIS defense is for YOUR spewage?







    now, do you see why i mostly respond to myself?

    or do i need to 'splain that to you too?




    (like i have to throuffly 'splain things to d umb s)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawgZWylde View Post
    Boom! Good post and certainly the truth but I hope you don't expect these loons to "get it".

    nope, but if they wanna come at me with lies, innuendo, stupidity and gullibility

    i'll keep pho king

    wid 'em

    at least til i'm done having a good laugh

    at their expense...


    and thanks too.
    Last edited by hookdfisherman; 07-07-2017 at 11:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hookdfisherman View Post
    nope, but if they wanna come at me with lies, innuendo, stupidity and gullibility

    i'll keep pho king

    wid 'em

    at least til i'm done having a good laugh

    at their expense...


    and thanks too.


    Backpacking in the Sierra Nevada Mountain Range, no winds, far from a stream, sitting quietly while breathing softly... the sound of silence is deafening. Have you experienced that sensation?

    What causes that at this here rebound...

    my brutal honesty concerning the loons gettin' it?

    Or

    The real threat that the creeping socialism you desire just might cause you pansies to consume dog or cat someday?

    Oh that's right ... this bunch can catch fish... you should be ok.

    Unless, it's really that truth has created your sound of silence...


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