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    some will just never get it, you can tell by the quality of the rants...

    others were brought up poor and want to keep everyone else in the same boat

    you see it in the inner city all day long

    not everyone is like that but when you finally see it in their rants, it's becomes so obvious.





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    Quote Originally Posted by steelhead View Post
    This may be hard but stay with me here... If you do not see this as a problem then you dont understand economics. This will drive prices up on everything, cost of doing business will go up on top of the $15 min wage they're pushing through and you will have those who contribute most to the tax revenue fleeing to other states. Couple that with the state overtly disregarding the federal enforcement of immigration and flaunting it's sanctuary status and you will have an implosion waiting to happen. Less taxes towards the state coffers due to businesses leaving or folding due to high cost and more people flooding into California to receive protection from federal crackdowns in other states. Why do you think they are raising taxes on gas and registration?? Maybe to make up for the projected shortfall from business taxes and someone's got to pay for all these social programs. There is nothing thta says 100% of the new proposed taxes will go towards road infrastructure, they will reallocate once collected. Does that help??
    What "I" understand is that 100% of the tax increase on Gasoline and car registration "must" go for motoring needs. (earmark) If someone else would like to chime in to confirm or deny my understanding of where the money must go that would be very helpful.

    When it comes to California Economics, "it's it own animal!!!" We do things differently!!! We did Cap & Trade and they said it would never work. We have some of the toughest environmentally laws in the nation. Yet we are still the 6 largest economy in the world!!! When we hit hard times and stay there let me know!!! Yes the business environment is tough on some business and they leave the state. However, new business's come in and the beat goes on. Have you checked the price of your California Real Estate lately???? (I'm in the business) It's booming!!!!! If California was sliding economically it would be going down not up. As I said, CA is it's own animal. When something looks like it won't work, some how it works out in the long run for the state of CA. Till it stops working, I'm not going to say the sky is falling in CA economically. I've lived in CA all of my life (57 years) and I've heard dire predictions before and yet we are still on top!!!!!
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    i'm thinking that most of that money is going to fund current and future pensions.

    that system has to be taking so much money, the state needs more to keep it afloat.

    (brown came back and saw how broken it is and is looking out for his future slice of the pie, thus the new taxes)

    maybe once the blue team members see the light of day on that...

    they'll change their tune.

    but until that day comes, they'll keep accepting the state taking their money (food from their mouths).






    why do you blues think it's ok for the state to bleed you dry????

    really???

    you want and like that??????

    they got all y'all fooled to the hilt... they're stickin' it to ya!

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    Quote Originally Posted by etucker1959 View Post
    What "I" understand is that 100% of the tax increase on Gasoline and car registration "must" go for motoring needs. (earmark) If someone else would like to chime in to confirm or deny my understanding of where the money must go would be very helpful.

    lol

    who's overseeing that?

    pucker tucker, you really need to pull your head out...

    they're fooling you...

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    if they can't run the state with what they're already taking...

    maybe we need a new and better leader...




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    why else do you think your country put Trump into office??




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    Last edited by hookdfisherman; 04-14-2017 at 02:02 AM.

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    To one degree or another



















    The reason your friends are ignoring you (and shadow land aka southern murica ;-)





















    Is the same reason you're ignoring me























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    I'll ask once more.... [aka twisting in the wind lol]























    Why else do you think YOUR COUNTRY elected Trump [President Trump] into the office of President of the United States?








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    Quote Originally Posted by hookdfisherman View Post
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    if they can't run the state with what they're already taking...

    maybe we need a new and better leader...




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    Boston Tea Party Facts

    The Boston Tea Party took place on December 16th, 1773. It was a protest by the American Colonists against the British in regards to the tea taxes that had been imposed on them. This protest involved throwing chests of tea from three British trade ships into the Boston Harbor. The colonists had been told they could only buy tea from the British-owned East Indian Trading Company. The British had imposed tea taxes through the Tea Act, and the colonists protested by wearing costumes, boarding the ships, and dumping the tea cargo into the harbor. The Boston Tea Party was a key event that led to the beginning of the American Revolution.
    Interesting Boston Tea Party Facts:

    The Boston Tea Party took place a few years after the Boston Massacre, which took place on March 5th, 1770.
    Most American colonists consumed, on average, 2 to 3 cups of tea each day. This equaled approximately two million pounds of tea among 3 million colonists each year.
    It was estimated that approximately 90% of the tea being drank by American colonists was smuggled in. Coffee drinking increased as a result of boycotts on British tea.
    The colonist group the Sons of Liberty organized the Boston Tea Party to protest the Tea Tax created by the British.
    The import tax on tea imposed through the Tea Act was actually lower than what the colonists had already been paying.
    The colonists were not imposing the tax itself but the fact that the Tea Act had been created in British Parliament with no input from the American colonists. The colonists protested with the phrase 'No taxation without representation'.
    The three ships in Boston Harbor that were raided in the Boston Tea Party included the Dartmouth Ship, the Eleanor Ship, and the Beaver ship.
    The Dartmouth Ship was carrying 114 chests of tea; the Eleanor Ship was carrying 114 chests of tea; the Beaver Ship was carrying 114 chests of tea.
    The fourth ship the William ran aground in a storm off Cape Cod and never made it to Boston Harbor.
    The chests of tea on the three ships included 240 chests of cheap black tea, 15 chests of superior cheap black tea, 10 chests of superior black tea, and 60 chests of green tea.
    All 342 chests of tea were dumped into Boston Harbor in the protest, destroying all of it.
    The 342 chests of tea would have made approximately 19 million cups of tea.
    Tea marketed in America was done by shipment receivers (dealers) selected by the East India Trading Company. The dealers in New York, Charleston, and Philadelphia refused shipments prior to the Boston Tea Party, following pressure by the Sons of Liberty. The tea sat on the ships in Boston Harbor for weeks, while the people of Boston held meetings while trying to decide what to do.
    The dealers in Boston refused to allow the ships to leave and instead dumped the tea in the harbor.
    180 names of men who helped dump the tea are known, but there may have been more involved.
    Most of the tea from the East India Trading Company was actually from China, not Britain.



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    so, yeah.

    let's rock this boat!

    it'll mean more ducats to fish farther away from home!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hookdfisherman View Post
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    Boston Tea Party Facts

    The Boston Tea Party took place on December 16th, 1773. It was a protest by the American Colonists against the British in regards to the tea taxes that had been imposed on them. This protest involved throwing chests of tea from three British trade ships into the Boston Harbor. The colonists had been told they could only buy tea from the British-owned East Indian Trading Company. The British had imposed tea taxes through the Tea Act, and the colonists protested by wearing costumes, boarding the ships, and dumping the tea cargo into the harbor. The Boston Tea Party was a key event that led to the beginning of the American Revolution.
    Interesting Boston Tea Party Facts:

    The Boston Tea Party took place a few years after the Boston Massacre, which took place on March 5th, 1770.
    Most American colonists consumed, on average, 2 to 3 cups of tea each day. This equaled approximately two million pounds of tea among 3 million colonists each year.
    It was estimated that approximately 90% of the tea being drank by American colonists was smuggled in. Coffee drinking increased as a result of boycotts on British tea.
    The colonist group the Sons of Liberty organized the Boston Tea Party to protest the Tea Tax created by the British.
    The import tax on tea imposed through the Tea Act was actually lower than what the colonists had already been paying.
    The colonists were not imposing the tax itself but the fact that the Tea Act had been created in British Parliament with no input from the American colonists. The colonists protested with the phrase 'No taxation without representation'.
    The three ships in Boston Harbor that were raided in the Boston Tea Party included the Dartmouth Ship, the Eleanor Ship, and the Beaver ship.
    The Dartmouth Ship was carrying 114 chests of tea; the Eleanor Ship was carrying 114 chests of tea; the Beaver Ship was carrying 114 chests of tea.
    The fourth ship the William ran aground in a storm off Cape Cod and never made it to Boston Harbor.
    The chests of tea on the three ships included 240 chests of cheap black tea, 15 chests of superior cheap black tea, 10 chests of superior black tea, and 60 chests of green tea.
    All 342 chests of tea were dumped into Boston Harbor in the protest, destroying all of it.
    The 342 chests of tea would have made approximately 19 million cups of tea.
    Tea marketed in America was done by shipment receivers (dealers) selected by the East India Trading Company. The dealers in New York, Charleston, and Philadelphia refused shipments prior to the Boston Tea Party, following pressure by the Sons of Liberty. The tea sat on the ships in Boston Harbor for weeks, while the people of Boston held meetings while trying to decide what to do.
    The dealers in Boston refused to allow the ships to leave and instead dumped the tea in the harbor.
    180 names of men who helped dump the tea are known, but there may have been more involved.
    Most of the tea from the East India Trading Company was actually from China, not Britain.



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    let's rock this boat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hookdfisherman View Post










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    FBI used dossier allegations to bolster Trump-Russia investigation

    By Evan Perez, Shimon Prokupecz and Manu Raju, CNN

    Updated 2207 GMT (0607 HKT) April 18, 2017



    Washington (CNN) — The FBI last year used a dossier of allegations of Russian ties to Donald Trump's campaign as part of the justification to win approval to secretly monitor a Trump associate, according to US officials briefed on the investigation.

    The dossier has also been cited by FBI Director James Comey in some of his briefings to members of Congress in recent weeks, as one of the sources of information the bureau has used to bolster its investigation, according to US officials briefed on the probe.

    This includes approval from the secret court that oversees the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) to monitor the communications of Carter Page, two of the officials said. Last year, Page was identified by the Trump campaign as an adviser on national security.

    Officials familiar with the process say even if the application to monitor Page included information from the dossier, it would only be after the FBI had corroborated the information through its own investigation. The officials would not say what or how much was corroborated.

    The dossier first came to light when CNN reported that a summary of it had been presented to President Obama and President-elect Trump back in December by top US Intelligence officials.

    Comey's briefings to lawmakers stand in contrast to efforts in recent months by the bureau and US intelligence agencies to try to distance themselves from the dossier.

    US law enforcement and intelligence officials have said US investigators did their own work, separate from the dossier, to support their findings that Russia tried to meddle in the 2016 presidential election in favor of Trump.
    The dossier alleges that Page met senior Russian officials as an emissary of the Trump campaign, and discussed quid-pro-quo deals relating to sanctions, business opportunities and Russia's interference in the election. Page has denied meeting the officials named in the dossier and says he never cut any political deals with the Kremlin.
    During the campaign, he traveled to Russia in July, where he gave a lecture critical of US policy toward Russia. That trip drew the attention of the FBI and raised concerns about Page's contacts with suspected Russian operatives, according to US officials briefed on the matter. Page has said he made the trip independent of the Trump campaign and his speech reflected his own views.
    Page has also disputed any wrongdoing and says there was nothing illegal in his interactions with Russian officials. He blames former Obama administration officials for pushing the Russia allegations.

    "I look forward to the Privacy Act of 1974 lawsuit that I plan to file in response to the civil rights violations by Obama administration appointees last year," Page said in a statement to CNN. "The discovery process will be of great value to the United States, as our nation hears testimony from them under oath, and we receive disclosure of the documents which show what exactly was done in 2016."

    The dossier is a collection of memos compiled by a former British intelligence operative working for political opponents of Trump. The memos purport to describe efforts by Russian intelligence to gather compromising information on Trump. CNN reported earlier this year that both President Obama and then-President Elect Trump were briefed on the dossier's existence in part to ensure that Trump understood what was being circulating among intelligence agencies investigating the dossier, and also to emphasize that Russia sought to compile information damaging to Republicans and Democrats. US investigators say they have corroborated some aspects of the allegations, particularly the conversations between foreign nationals that took place as described in the reports.

    Comey hasn't mentioned the dossier in all his briefings to lawmakers, according to people familiar with the briefings. To some of them, he has emphasized that the FBI gathered evidence as part of its investigation to support seeking FISA court approval and to take other steps as part of the probe that began last July, according to the officials briefed of the probe.

    The Washington Post was first to report the FISA court warrant targeting Page.
    To obtain court permission to target Page, the FBI and Justice Department would have to present probable cause that he was acting as an agent of a foreign power, including possibly engaging in clandestine intelligence gathering for a foreign government. Comey and other top Justice Department officials would have to sign off on the application, which government officials say involves a rigorous review process.
    Then-candidate Trump cited Page last year in an interview as one of his advisers on national security matters. He was officially on the campaign foreign policy team from March 2016 to September 2016. Page calls himself a 'junior member of the team" and Trump officials have said he had no influential role with the campaign.

    The FBI became interested in Page, the officials say, in part because of concerns about his interactions with suspected Russian intelligence operatives last year. The Justice Department and FBI haven't accused Page of wrongdoing and it's unclear whether any charges could be brought in the investigation.

    The FBI already knew about Page because of his role as a witness in the 2013 federal prosecution of an undercover Russian spy. Prosecutors alleged that the spy had tried to cultivate Page as a source. Page denies he knew he was interacting with a Russian spy.
    Page was also among those who met with Russia's ambassador, Sergey Kislyak during the Republican National Convention in 2016.

    CNN's Pamela Brown and Marshall Cohen contributed to this report.

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