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    The first thing I do when I start reading a new thread is to know "who" the author is." That usually will tell me what kind of a thread I'm reading and what angle that person is usually coming from in their writings. People who following my writings know I write fishing reports and talk about Political topics. I leave the Human interest stuff to others who do a much better job then I would do.

    When I came across this article of fishermen needed to be rescued off of a fishing vessel, I wasn't cruising through my fishing information websites. But Yahoo news looking for the latest Dumb stunt President Trump did "TODAY"!!! So the article wasn't written for local consumption. It was a national story so those little fine details didn't stick out immediately. Two things immediately come to mind after reading the headline. San Clemente Island means it's a local boat and 25 fishermen means it's a 65 footer or bigger. The 4 boats that immediately come to mind are the Freedom, Toronado, Thunderbird or El Dorado. I was close, it was the Trueline from San Pedro. (I am sure many of us have ridden those boats to SCI, so it could have been us!!!)

    The details in the article were slim but haven fished these boats for over 40 years I understood what happened. At 3:00 pm Saturday the boat ran over a submerged rock at San Clemente Island and tore a hole in the boat. The boat immediately started taking on water and the Coast Guard was summoned for assistance and was able to safely evacuate all the passengers. The crew made the courageous decision to try to save the vessel. They hauled butt with the bilge pumps working over time and safely got the vessel to the Newport harbor boat yard for repairs. (they were shadowed the whole way by the Coast Guard for their safety)

    In the 40+ years I've been riding the sportfishing fleet. There have been many causality's to many boats I have ridden on. You would think that number would be going down with all the advance technology but it hasn't. Several boats have sunk or been damaged besides the Trueline in just the last couple of years. (we won't count those 2 clowns who sunk their own boat for the insurance money) So this brings up the meat of my thread.

    President Trump with all his inexperience in governing is going to effect all us fishermen who think the Pacific Ocean is our personal fish pond!!! (Me included) In his first budget, like all good Republicans before him, Trump thinks the only good expense for the government is the Military. Other then that everything else is just "WASTE, FRAUD and ABUSE"!!!!! So every other program should be able to get by with a lot less money!!!!! So cutting the Coast Guard budget by 30% should not cause any "HARM" to any person!!! They can just get rid of the waste, fraud and abuse and nobody will know the difference. How does the President know this????? Because every Republican since Reagan has said, "this is true!!!" This has been tried on the State level a few times with "Disastrous results." Governor Brownback in Kansas is the poster child for this failed experiment. It's never been tried on a National level till now. Why because the Democrats wouldn't allow it. (Obama coined a phrase I didn't like at the time) Now the Republicans use it all the time. Elections have consequences!!!!! A lot of people on here thought it was funny to poke fun at Obama and Hillary. A lot of them even voted for Trump, where are they now defending their boy and his new policy's????? Either they are hiding under a rock or just about now crossing the Mighty Mississippi in their U Haul towing a fancy boat!!!!! Leaving us here to face "THEIR MUSIC!!!"

    I wrote a pretty good fish report a couple of months ago that morphed into something pretty weird. Lady Q put in a link to Gordon Lightfoot song of the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. (I will admit I played it a few times before the thread got taken down) The lyrics are pretty accurate to what really happened to the freighter lost in bad weather on the great lakes. They had mentioned several times in the song of the 29 seamen who lost their lives with the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald. Let's just hope we can ride out 4 more years of President Trump's administration, (I don't think he will get re elected) without any major catastrophes. "I DON'T WANT TO BE ONE OF THE 29 SOUL'S LOST AT SEA" that could have been saved if the Coast Guard was operating at Pre TRUMP levels!!!!!!
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    You know eTucker,

    When I see your name by a post, I can tell what kinda post it's guna be... and I prepare, I perpare to call, I purport ta caul, tah cauliflower you out... gun slinga. .. oops sPell checkers, I mean schpeil chessers, I mean ... eh you know what I mean...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Quagga View Post
    You know eTucker,

    When I see your name by a post, I can tell what kinda post it's guna be... and I prepare, I perpare to call, I purport ta caul, tah cauliflower you out... gun slinga. .. oops sPell checkers, I mean schpeil chessers, I mean ... eh you know what I mean...

    E-ftookus da'as's

    Were you hacked by the village idiot???? lol

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    I will wait a couple days before I reply to this post.
    I am glad the fishing people did not end up in the water and I am glad the crew saved their boat. Hit a rock at San Cemente Island does not sound good to me after fishing out that way for 61 years.
    Sweet Dreams

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    If anyone would like to have an adult conversation about this feel free to chime in. (I promise to be nice) lol As the kids would say, "it just got real!!!" I saw no mention of this incident in WON this week. I'll give them 1 more week and I might write them a letter about this. The reason why I feel compelled to write to them, is they need to talk about the other side of the coin of Conservationism. They pound the drum all the time how great Conservationism is with out talking about the down side of it!!!!
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    It looks like the Republican rats are jumping the ship here in this forum. It's about time. They were one of the reasons that I stopped posting so much here.

    Good post, etucker.

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    What a RANT, you must have a lot of time on your hand and of all the things you you can worry about with this state and country you wrote a dissertation expressing concern about budget cuts to the coast guard for fear of the once in a lifetime when a charter boat springs a leak. You've got a lot more to worry about than dying from fishing on a sportsfishing boat, a little over dramatic don't you think? Have you seen the new tax hike for gas and registration, i'm more worried about that and how about that brain child governor passing laws that let out felons early, that's more worrisome to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelhead View Post
    What a RANT, you must have a lot of time on your hand and of all the things you you can worry about with this state and country you wrote a dissertation expressing concern about budget cuts to the coast guard for fear of the once in a lifetime when a charter boat springs a leak. You've got a lot more to worry about than dying from fishing on a sportsfishing boat, a little over dramatic don't you think? Have you seen the new tax hike for gas and registration, i'm more worried about that and how about that brain child governor passing laws that let out felons early, that's more worrisome to me.
    A little over dramatic you say??????? Loss of life get's more "KNEE JERK REACTIONS" then any thing else. One of the biggest knee jerk reactions I can remember was, when a shooting occurred here in LA and the city of Pomona canceled the Pomona Gun show permanently!!!!! (it was the greatest gun show on earth!!!)

    If a big sportfishing boat sinks and there is a huge loss of life. (Coast guard wasn't there to save them) Who knows what "New California regulations could come out of it!!!" Don't think these sport fishing boats don't sink!!! The Invicta sank 2 years ago with a full load load of passengers on here. Here is some other names of sportfishing boats that sank. California, Finalista 100, Queen of the Sea, Champ, Maximous and the infamous ERIK. (there were more these were just on the top of my head) It can happen, so removing the safety net is just pure foolishness. I'm not even talking about PRIVATE BOATERS YET who are even more vulnerable!!! Ok call it a rant!!! But only a fool fixes the barn door only "AFTER" the cow escapes!!!!!

    I guess I do have a lot of time expanding my brain. Let's talk about the other issues you brought up. (I can talk about anything) lol The Governor raised tax's for motoring needs. Does anyone really thing we spend too much money on our roads???? If that was the case there would be a lot less traffic rams. (which there's not!!!) Because of all this rain, I've got 3 big pot holes in the street in front of my house. Everybody should like good roads!!! Well how do you pay for them??? Benefit user tax's always seem to be the most fair way to do it!!! In other words, if you don't use it you don't have to pay for it. Gasoline tax's are totally fair, the more gas you buy, the more your driving and using the roads. (So you pay more) A senior citizen who doesn't drive but takes Dial a ride doesn't pay like you do for the privilege of good roads. Same thing with car registration. If you don't own a car, you're not driving on the road, so why should you pay for someone else's road!!!! (totally fair) If you think about it, the timing for a gasoline tax increase is perfect. 3 years ago we were paying close to $4.50 a gallon for gasoline. Now it's $2.69 and the future looks good it will being going down even more and staying down. So it's not as bad as it seems!!! We were paying $4.50 a gallon and having crapper roads to drive on. Now we might end up paying $2.85 a gallon and have better roads to drive on. Doesn't seem like the end of the world to me!!!!! lol

    Letting Felony's go early!!!! (I'll get back to that) I've got to get to work!!! lol I'm back!!!

    Why is it, the United States is the leader of the world for incarcerating it's own citizens??? Are Americans the most violent people on Earth or the most dishonest people that live on this planet????? THEY MOST BE, BECAUSE WE PUT MORE PEOPLE IN JAIL AND PRISON THEN ANY OTHER COUNTRY OF THE WORLD!!!!! If you believe that Americans are the most violent and the most dishonest people on the planet, then you are right!!!! It's terrible that we are letting these dangerous people out of prison early!!!! I'll wait to see if anyone wants to respond to what I just said before continuing my rant!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by etucker1959 View Post
    A little over dramatic you say??????? Loss of life get's more "KNEE JERK REACTIONS" then any thing else. One of the biggest knee jerk reactions I can remember was, when a shooting occurred here in LA and the city of Pomona canceled the Pomona Gun show permanently!!!!! (it was the greatest gun show on earth!!!)

    If a big sportfishing boat sinks and there is a huge loss of life. (Coast guard wasn't there to save them) Who knows what "New California regulations could come out of it!!!" Don't think these sport fishing boats don't sink!!! The Invicta sank 2 years ago with a full load load of passengers on here. Here is some other names of sportfishing boats that sank. California, Finalista 100, Queen of the Sea, Champ, Maximous and the infamous ERIK. (there were more these were just on the top of my head) It can happen, so removing the safety net is just pure foolishness. I'm not even talking about PRIVATE BOATERS YET who are even more vulnerable!!! Ok call it a rant!!! But only a fool fixes the barn door only "AFTER" the cow escapes!!!!!

    I guess I do have a lot of time expanding my brain. Let's talk about the other issues you brought up. (I can talk about anything) lol The Governor raised tax's for motoring needs. Does anyone really thing we spend too much money on our roads???? If that was the case there would be a lot less traffic rams. (which there's not!!!) Because of all this rain, I've got 3 big pot holes in the street in front of my house. Everybody should like good roads!!! Well how do you pay for them??? Benefit user tax's always seem to be the most fair way to do it!!! In other words, if you don't use it you don't have to pay for it. Gasoline tax's are totally fair, the more gas you buy, the more your driving and using the roads. (So you pay more) A senior citizen who doesn't drive but takes Dial a ride doesn't pay like you do for the privilege of good roads. Same thing with car registration. If you don't own a car, you're not driving on the road, so why should you pay for someone else's road!!!! (totally fair) If you think about it, the timing for a gasoline tax increase is perfect. 3 years ago we were paying close to $4.50 a gallon for gasoline. Now it's $2.69 and the future looks good it will being going down even more and staying down. So it's not as bad as it seems!!! We were paying $4.50 a gallon and having crapper roads to drive on. Now we might end up paying $2.85 a gallon and have better roads to drive on. Doesn't seem like the end of the world to me!!!!! lol

    Letting Felony's go early!!!! (I'll get back to that) I've got to get to work!!! lol I'm back!!!

    Why is it, the United States is the leader of the world for incarcerating it's own citizens??? Are Americans the most violent people on Earth or the most dishonest people that live on this planet????? THEY MOST BE, BECAUSE WE PUT MORE PEOPLE IN JAIL AND PRISON THEN ANY OTHER COUNTRY OF THE WORLD!!!!! If you believe that Americans are the most violent and the most dishonest people on the planet, then you are right!!!! It's terrible that we are letting these dangerous people out of prison early!!!! I'll wait to see if anyone wants to respond to what I just said before continuing my rant!!!
    Nobody responded so I'll continue my rant!!! So if Americans are not more violent then other people of the world, then why do we have the highest incarceration rate compared to everyone else???? It's 1 simple answer, because we let "CONSERVATIVES" have their way!!!! I guess other country's ignore their Conservatives when it comes time to make their laws. I know what some of you are thinking, "How can you ignore your Conservatives" when it comes time to pass laws???? Easily if you understand why a person is a Conservatives!!! Once you understand what makes them a Conservative it's very easy to dismiss them!!!

    Have you ever wondered what makes a person a great artist or a musician or a great thinker??? Most of them were just born that way with a Superior brain. The same with many Conservatives, they were just born that way!!! Not all Conservatives are born with a Conservative brain, some were just brought up in a Conservative family. (same as some religions) But many Conservatives are born with an enlarged portion of their brain that controls fear & anxiety. Now I know I just lost some of you. (you're thinking BS to that!!!) I didn't just make this stuff up myself, about Conservatives having enlarged portions of their brain that controls fear and anxiety. I've read several articles about this and now I'm sharing it with the readers of this thread.

    Let's look at the circumstantially evidence at what Conservatives believe in to support my claim. What do all Conservatives believe is the number 1 thing the Federal government is suppose to do??? Answer: To provide a strong military!!! Do you think we went a little over board on that one???? Considering we spend more money per year on the Military then the next 7 country's "COMBINED!!!!" Why do we spend so much???? Because Conservatives "FEAR" the people in other country's would try to do them harm!!! What else does every good Conservative support??? A strong police force!!! Why because they "FEAR" what their neighbors might do to them!!! Once any of their neighbors have been arrested, Conservatives want to give them as long a prison term as they can because they "FEAR" them walking around with them!!! Once we have them in custody we have to put them some where. So Conservatives don't mind spending a lot of money on Prisons. That's about it, that's what most Conservatives are willingly to spend a lot of money on without complaining about it!!! (Do you see a pattern???) Last but not least, if all else fails, Conservatives must have "GUNS" to protect themselves. Why because Conservatives live in "FEAR" all the time.

    Thank God everyone is not a Conservative including our Governor!!! He doesn't live in fear all the time like a Conservative does!!! So he is willing to release some non violent Felony's early, (who were probably given a longer Prison sentence then they deserved) and who are not likely to commit another crime to help save money. In doing so, hopefully we won't have to have a tax increase to pay for all of our prisons in the state!!!!

    I'm sure many of you after reading my rant are thinking, etucker you're so full of it!!! Let's go back to the person who felt compelled to comment on my Coast Guard thread. (he couldn't care less about the CG budget being cut 30%) I'm writing this in his own words. "You've got a lot more to worry about then dying from fishing on a sportfishing boat." Then he complains about a gas tax increase (rememeber all good Conseratives only want to spend money on things to protect them) but by letting people go early from prison, won't the Governor be saving money??? (so it's not just about the money) Then he say's, "that brain child Governor passing laws that let's out Felons early, that's more worrisome to me." (those were his exact words) Does this person seem a little "FEARFUL" to you??? He does to me!!!! I'm going to take a wild guess and say this person is a "Conservative"!!!!! lol
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