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Thread: It’s Time for Baseball to Forgive Pete Rose

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    Great article from The Wall Street Journal. -LQ

    It’s Time for Baseball to Forgive Pete Rose
    By CHRISTOPHER CALDWELL
    March 20, 2015 12:57 p.m. ET

    On Monday, Rob Manfred, the new commissioner of Major League Baseball, got a chance to extricate his sport from a deepening moral quandary. Pete Rose, the disgraced onetime star of the Cincinnati Reds, petitioned Mr. Manfred’s office to be reinstated in the sport from which he was barred in 1989 for gambling.

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    Mr. Rose’s punishment may have seemed logical three decades ago, in the draconian climate of “Just say no,” “Three strikes and you’re out” and the war on drugs. But in the world we now inhabit—one of steroid use and sports-sponsored gambling—it looks arbitrary and cruel, with about as much claim to our support as throwing someone in the stocks for flouting the Sabbath.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/its-time...ose-1426870646

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    "The rules were put in place to prevent cheating, not betting. And cheating is something that no thinking person, then or now, has suggested Pete Rose would do."

    Great article. I am to young to have seen Rose play, but my dad tells stories about him all the time. I think that above quote from the article says it all. Not only does he deserve to be in the Hall, I think the fact that he isn't is embarrassing to baseball.

    I have been blessed with 3 daughters. When they participate in sports, ANY sport, I try to get them to play the way Rose did. Sprinted to first base on a walk.....awesome.

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    Anybody who's willing to mow down an opposing catcher during an All Star Game deserves to be in some type of prestigious group.


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    My two boys and I were great fans of "The Big Red Machine" in the 1970's. Pete Rose and Johnny Bench were my sons baseball hero's. Pete Rose was a joy to watch play. Had a hard time trying to keep my boys from doing the "Pete Rose" (sliding head first) into a base. Having said that I would only approve of his induction into the Hall of Fame posthumously and with an * after his name.

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    I was born in Ohio, and grew up in Cincinnati during the 70's, so naturally we were all rabid fans of the Reds. The image of Geronimo catching Yaz's fly out in game 7 of the 1975 series is literally burned into my brain, I replayed it over and over in my head as an 8-year old. Guys like Bench, George Foster, Davy Conception, Ken Griffey, Joe Morgan, Tony Perez, Sparky Anderson -- they were my heroes back then. And all were led by Pete Rose. I remember that it seemed like the entire city was practically at a standstill during his hitting streak record attempt, it's all anyone could talk about.

    But what he did afterwards was pretty egregious. He may or may not have actually bet against the Reds (it may never be known with certainty), but in my mind, betting for the Reds, only for certain games and not others, is a close second place. Sure, he was a gambling addict, but why couldn't he have just stuck with the ponies and casinos like Michael Jordan? It's heartbreaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkShadow View Post
    Anybody who's willing to mow down an opposing catcher during an All Star Game deserves to be in some type of prestigious group.

    And, ended the catcher's career as I recall. Let's not forget he lied about all of it for a long time, then finally "fessed up." Kind of sad to think of it being posthumously bestowed, but some of the "Black Sox" were innocent and still are suffering unjust shame.

    John

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    I never really got to see him actually in his prime. I was 10 when the Dodgers won the '88 WS, so that gives you a good time reference and how I caught the later end of his career.

    I do appreciate the fact that his attitude is what is missing from many primadona sports stars of today, who are afraid of getting dirt on their uniforms.



    And, an interesting side note. If you're ever in Vegas, and you happen to be inside the Ceasar's Sportsbook, there's a good chance (75% so far) that you'll see Mr. Rose in there betting on the ponies. He's a really nice guy from what I could tell although he did try to charge me for signing my betting slip.

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    Well, he is reported to make $1M per year, and this is his girlfriend, so maybe it's hard to feel TOO sorry for him:

    http://starcasm.net/wp-content/uploa...im-490x736.jpg

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    No one played the game like he did. I grew up in a Dodgers house, listening to and watching the Angels whenever I could. Unless Pete Rose was on, then it was all about watching him play. Baseball needs Pete rose back.

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    I grew up in Rose's era, before it AND after it. I watched it all. (I stood in line and watched Willie Davis sign a paper baseball sticker that was stuck on my closet door for years, yikes I am old!)

    Rose was inspirational, anyone who saw those times cannot say otherwise. He helped in the continuing build of "the national pastime", no doubt about it.

    To claim that in today's melee, times are different and reconsideration can/should now be made is questionable from where I stand.

    Pete knew what he was doing when he acted in the manner that he did, on AND off the field.



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