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Thread: Best QB of all time

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    So is Rice the best wide receiver in history that Montana threw it to or as you describe Montana was so "pin point" that it made Rice look like the best ever?

    I ask because your taking away from Rice being the best ever by saying Montana was Soooo accurate?


    Elway was much better, especially any pass past 10 yds

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    Quote Originally Posted by cutbait View Post
    So is Rice the best wide receiver in history that Montana threw it to or as you describe Montana was so "pin point" that it made Rice look like the best ever?

    I ask because your taking away from Rice being the best ever by saying Montana was Soooo accurate?


    Elway was much better, especially any pass past 10 yds
    Their greatness is mutually exclusive. Montana played 16 yrs, Rice 19yrs... they played 8 yrs together and won 2 Super Bowls... So Montana got 2 without Rice and Rice got 1 without Montana.

    Even while they were on the same team... One didn't carry the other. Joe was great because of his command of the offense and finding the open man. Rice was great because he was the best at making himself the open man or best option more often than the other guys on the field.

    What makes them the greatest ever is that they elevated their play in the biggest games. Rings and clutchness and undefeatedness ABSOLUTELY count when rating the best ever.

    You act like Elway never played with good players around him. Did none of his receivers have anything to do with his completions? Did he throw the ball AND catch it for his receivers?

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    Default Montana vs Elway Stats

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    16 Game Avg - Over Their Career

    Elway: 502 attempts, 286 completions, 57% completion, 3,565 yards, 21 touchdowns, 16 interceptions, a 79.9 quarterback rating and 10.3 wins.

    Montana: 501 attempts, 317 completions, 63% completion, 3,772 yards, 25 touchdowns, 13 interceptions, a 92.3 quarterback rating and 11.4 wins.


    Playoff Stats

    Elway: 22 games, 651 attempts, 355 completions, 54.5% completion, 4,964 yards, 27 touchdowns, 21 interceptions, a 79.7 quarterback rating and a 14-8 record.

    Montana: 23 games, 734 attempts, 460 completions, 62.7% completion, 5,772 yards, 45 touchdowns, 21 interceptions, a 95.6 quarterback rating and a 16-7 record.


    Super Bowl Stats

    Elway: five games, 152 attempts, 76 completions, 50% completion, 1,128 yards, three touchdowns, eight interceptions, a 59.3 quarterback rating and two Super Bowl victories.

    Montana: four games, 122 attempts, 83 completions, 68% completion, 1,142 yards, 11 touchdowns, zero interceptions, a 127.8 quarterback rating and four Super Bowl victories.



    Montana > Elway and it isn't really even close.

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    Montana and MustHuntAndFish covered the stats! lol
    Enough said now move along.

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    Boooyyyyyya way to get em MHAF
    Montana will always be the GOAT
    Quote Originally Posted by MustHuntAndFish View Post
    I got this off the internet.

    16 Game Avg - Over Their Career

    Elway: 502 attempts, 286 completions, 57% completion, 3,565 yards, 21 touchdowns, 16 interceptions, a 79.9 quarterback rating and 10.3 wins.

    Montana: 501 attempts, 317 completions, 63% completion, 3,772 yards, 25 touchdowns, 13 interceptions, a 92.3 quarterback rating and 11.4 wins.


    Playoff Stats

    Elway: 22 games, 651 attempts, 355 completions, 54.5% completion, 4,964 yards, 27 touchdowns, 21 interceptions, a 79.7 quarterback rating and a 14-8 record.

    Montana: 23 games, 734 attempts, 460 completions, 62.7% completion, 5,772 yards, 45 touchdowns, 21 interceptions, a 95.6 quarterback rating and a 16-7 record.


    Super Bowl Stats

    Elway: five games, 152 attempts, 76 completions, 50% completion, 1,128 yards, three touchdowns, eight interceptions, a 59.3 quarterback rating and two Super Bowl victories.

    Montana: four games, 122 attempts, 83 completions, 68% completion, 1,142 yards, 11 touchdowns, zero interceptions, a 127.8 quarterback rating and four Super Bowl victories.



    Montana > Elway and it isn't really even close.

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    Tebow and johny cash ... nuff said

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    Montana....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MustHuntAndFish View Post
    I got this off the internet.

    16 Game Avg - Over Their Career

    Elway: 502 attempts, 286 completions, 57% completion, 3,565 yards, 21 touchdowns, 16 interceptions, a 79.9 quarterback rating and 10.3 wins.

    Montana: 501 attempts, 317 completions, 63% completion, 3,772 yards, 25 touchdowns, 13 interceptions, a 92.3 quarterback rating and 11.4 wins.


    Playoff Stats

    Elway: 22 games, 651 attempts, 355 completions, 54.5% completion, 4,964 yards, 27 touchdowns, 21 interceptions, a 79.7 quarterback rating and a 14-8 record.

    Montana: 23 games, 734 attempts, 460 completions, 62.7% completion, 5,772 yards, 45 touchdowns, 21 interceptions, a 95.6 quarterback rating and a 16-7 record.


    Super Bowl Stats

    Elway: five games, 152 attempts, 76 completions, 50% completion, 1,128 yards, three touchdowns, eight interceptions, a 59.3 quarterback rating and two Super Bowl victories.

    Montana: four games, 122 attempts, 83 completions, 68% completion, 1,142 yards, 11 touchdowns, zero interceptions, a 127.8 quarterback rating and four Super Bowl victories.



    Montana > Elway and it isn't really even close.
    This is good. can you do this again but add Bradshaw, Montana and Brady
    Brady got his rings with a different cast of players every time. Bradshaw had great WR and they had a dominate D.

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    Jamarcus Russell

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    this whole conversation about Joe Montana being the best quarter back ever is nothing more than the result of the Barry Manilow-look-alike bias dominating the NFL these days.

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