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Thread: Obamacare funds being used to promte amnesty???

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    Rep. Smith Slams Use of Obamacare Funds to Promote Amnesty for Young Illegals;

    (CNSNews.com) - In a letter to House Appropriations Chair Harold Rogers (R-Ky.) on Tuesday, Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas) called for defunding a provision in Obamacare that has been allowing taxpayer dollars set aside for public health initiatives to fund television ads for President Obama’s illegal alien amnesty programs.

    In his letter, Smith cites a $15 million grant from the Prevention and Public Health Fund that the Department of Health and Human Services gave the California Endowment. The Prevention and Public Health Fund was created by the Affordable Care Act to support public health care initiatives. The California Endowment is a statewide, private health foundation that supplies grants for various organizations throughout California, and has served as one of the Obama administration’s loudest promoters of Obamacare.

    Newsbusters (which like CNSNews.com is part of the Media Research Center), reported earlier this month that the California Endowment last year signed a $20 million deal with the Spanish-language TV outlet “Univision” to help promote Obamacare. Using federal tax dollars from the health fund, the foundation then sponsored ads on Univision reminding qualifying illegal aliens to renew their Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival (DACA) permits before they expire.

    “U.S. taxpayer dollars are being spent for Univision morning show weatherwoman Ximena Córdoba to exhort beneficiaries of President Obama’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program to renew the permits exempting them from deportation proceedings for another two years,” Newsbusters reported.

    The DACA program was an executive action by President Obama that allows some illegal aliens who were brought to the United States as minors to receive relief from deportation proceedings.

    Newsbusters also reported the ad “combines the DACA permit renewal campaign with ObamaCare enrollment promotion” by flashing Univision’s Obamacare enrollment website during the ad’s closing screenshot, as well as crediting the California Endowment for sponsoring the ad.

    In his letter, Smith called the ad “just one example of the wasteful and unaccountable spending created by the Prevention and Public Health Fund.”

    “Regardless of how one feels about Obamacare, taxpayer money being spent to remind undocumented immigrants to renew their DACA permits does not promote healthcare,” Smith argued.

    Smith also cited “deep flaws” with the fund, as well as with Obamacare itself.

    “This slush fund has virtually no oversight as to where taxpayer money is spent and gives the Department of Health and Human Services free reign to spend the money in any manner it chooses,” Smith argued, adding that fund dollars “may not even have to go toward healthcare related initiatives.”

    Smith called for Congress to defund the Prevention and Public Health Fund in its next appropriations bill, as well as a total repeal of Obamacare, citing the health care law’s “many flaws.”

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/brit...young-illegals


    Imagine that, the Obama administration using taxpayer $$$ to promote something the vast majority of taxpayers oppose...

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    What funds?last i checked he borrowed money to stimulate the economy that worked well didnt it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucket View Post
    What funds?last i checked he borrowed money to stimulate the economy that worked well didnt it
    Well, the stock market is way up (record high?), unemployment is certainly down from 2008-9. What would you like to see improved? And, how would you go about doing it? It's real easy to criticize when you don't have a plan of your own.

    Just think how much better it could be if there was a little cooperation between the sides, instead of unwarranted anger and disrespect.

    What's your point? That you hate Obama? Wow, stop the presses, breaking news.


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    Quote Originally Posted by John Harper View Post
    Well, the stock market is way up, unemployment is certainly down from 2008-9.

    Just think how much better it could be if there was a little cooperation between the sides. What's your point?

    John
    Why is the stock market up? And can you explain how they arrive at those unemployment numbers? Why do we have a historical amount of workers out of the workforce and not counted in those unemployment numbers?

    My point is why are taxpayers dollars going to a Spanish language station promoting amnesty for illegals which the vast majority of American citizens/taxpayers oppose?

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    Corporate earnings, interest rates, global demand, investment, and especially potential future earnings all influence stock prices. Unemployment figures are always a bit of an estimate, since labor markets differ widely by region. You should be asking the Congressional Budget Office about unemployment numbers, not me. However, I agree on this point, how do people "leave the workforce" and survive? They still need food and shelter, right?

    That's always been an odd statistic. And it was not invented in 2009 (Obama), they've used that statistic for years and years.

    Most of the things Rep. Smith brings up turn out to be wrong, misinformed, or at least disingenuous. He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

    John
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Harper View Post
    Corporate earnings, interest rates, global demand, investment, and especially potential future earnings all influence stock prices. Unemployment figures are always a bit of an estimate, since labor markets differ widely by region. You should be asking the Congressional Budget Office about unemployment numbers, not me. However, I agree on this point, how do people "leave the workforce" and survive? They still need food and shelter, right?

    That's always been an odd statistic. And it was not invented in 2009 (Obama), they've used that statistic for years and years.

    Most of the things Rep. Smith brings up turn out to be wrong, misinformed, or at least disingenuous. He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

    John
    Look at the u6 unemployment numbers dummy. If more people are working then that means more tax revenue and less debt that hasnt been tge case right
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Harper View Post
    Corporate earnings, interest rates, global demand, investment, and especially potential future earnings all influence stock prices. Unemployment figures are always a bit of an estimate, since labor markets differ widely by region. You should be asking the Congressional Budget Office about unemployment numbers, not me. However, I agree on this point, how do people "leave the workforce" and survive? They still need food and shelter, right?

    That's always been an odd statistic. And it was not invented in 2009 (Obama), they've used that statistic for years and years.

    Most of the things Rep. Smith brings up turn out to be wrong, misinformed, or at least disingenuous. He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

    John
    Does the Fed not have something to do with the current market? Our economy certainly isn't helping much and neither is Europe's.

    Perhaps record welfare, food stamp and healthcare subsidies gives the best answer as far as how those people are surviving.

    In his letter, Smith cites a $15 million grant from the Prevention and Public Health Fund that the Department of Health and Human Services gave the California Endowment. The Prevention and Public Health Fund was created by the Affordable Care Act to support public health care initiatives. The California Endowment is a statewide, private health foundation that supplies grants for various organizations throughout California, and has served as one of the Obama administration’s loudest promoters of Obamacare.

    Newsbusters (which like CNSNews.com is part of the Media Research Center), reported earlier this month that the California Endowment last year signed a $20 million deal with the Spanish-language TV outlet “Univision” to help promote Obamacare. Using federal tax dollars from the health fund, the foundation then sponsored ads on Univision reminding qualifying illegal aliens to renew their Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival (DACA) permits before they expire.
    I don't see where Smith could be wrong here.

    He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer
    Most of them aren't hence they become politicians rather than compete in private enterprise. They then use their office to enrich themselves...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucket View Post
    dummy.
    I sincerely doubt you'd have the balls to say that to my face, but I'll be happy to set up a time and place if you wish. Let me know.

    Oh, and the federal deficit is lower than it's been in years.

    John
    Last edited by John Harper; 10-31-2014 at 11:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Harper View Post
    I sincerely doubt you'd say that to my face, but I'll be happy to set up a time and place. Let me know.

    Oh, and the federal deficit is lower than it's been in years.

    John
    Did i hurt your ego. And i will tell me where to meet


    Deficit was at 10 trillion when he came into office niw its 18 trillion. It took 60 years to get to 10 trillion and 6 o get to 18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucket View Post
    And i will tell me where to meet
    Sounds perfect.

    Of course, you confuse federal debt with the federal budget deficit. As a percentage rise, the federal debt went up way much more during the Reagan era than during Obama. Reagan basically doubled the federal debt with tax cuts and military spending. Check your history. And, recessions always call for increased government spending whether wanted or not.

    John
    Last edited by John Harper; 10-31-2014 at 12:30 PM.

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