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Thread: Murrieta protest of Illegal aliens.

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    Anybody go to the big protest at Murrieta???? If so what did you see, and what are your feelings about the protesters????

    I didn't know that was the Rule but ok. I feel any government has the right and obligation to pass laws in it's own country and people should obey them. With the illegal aliens in the USA they constitute a group of people that our government doesn't know who they are or what their doing. This in my opinion SHOULD NOT BE TOLERATED!!!!!!!
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    Yes I did. I saw a lot. Went to the Town-hall too. And since you brought it up and this is your thread, shouldn't you state your opinion on the protesters first? Which protesters though? La Raza and Mecha? Or the American citizens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawgZWylde View Post
    La Raza and Mecha? Or the American citizens?
    I didnt know members of Mecha or La Raza were not American citizens.

    Thanks for that clarification, Hawgzy.

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    Glad to see people fighting back against the heavy handed tactics of our federal government and this corrupt Obama administration. I think the pro illegal immigration groups should pay out of their own pockets the expenses to house and feed these law breakers who are crossing our boarders illegally. I’ll bet they’ll sing a different tune if that was the case.

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    If you really want to "Choke and Puke" watch this hearing going on now.
    http://www.c-span.org/live/?channel=c-span-3

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkShadow View Post
    I didnt know members of Mecha or La Raza were not American citizens.

    Thanks for that clarification, Hawgzy.
    “For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada.” Eh Miguel?

    Radical ‘Reconquista’ Agenda

    Behind the respectable front of the National Council of La Raza lies the real agenda of the La Raza movement, the agenda that led to those thousands of illegal immigrants in the streets of American cities, waving Mexican flags, brazenly defying our laws, and demanding concessions.

    Key among the secondary organizations is the radical racist group Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, or Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan (MEChA), one of the most anti-American groups in the country, which has permeated U.S. campuses since the 1960s, and continues its push to carve a racist nation out of the American West.

    One of America’s greatest strengths has always been taking in immigrants from cultures around the world, and assimilating them into our country as Americans. By being citizens of the U.S. we are Americans first, and only, in our national loyalties.

    This is totally opposed by MEChA for the hordes of illegal immigrants pouring across our borders, to whom they say:

    “Chicano is our identity; it defines who we are as people. It rejects the notion that we…should assimilate into the Anglo-American melting pot…Aztlan was the legendary homeland of the Aztecas … It became synonymous with the vast territories of the Southwest, brutally stolen from a Mexican people marginalized and betrayed by the hostile custodians of the Manifest Destiny.” (Statement on University of Oregon MEChA Website, Jan. 3, 2006)

    MEChA isn’t at all shy about their goals, or their views of other races. Their founding principles are contained in these words in “El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan” (The Spiritual Plan for Aztlan):

    “In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not only of its proud historical heritage but also of the brutal gringo invasion of our territories, we, the Chicano inhabitants and civilizers of the northern land of Aztlan from whence came our forefathers, reclaiming the land of their birth and consecrating the determination of our people of the sun, declare that the call of our blood is our power, our responsibility, and our inevitable destiny. … Aztlan belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans. … We are a bronze people with a bronze culture. Before the world, before all of North America, before all our brothers in the bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a union of free pueblos, we are Aztlan. For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada.”

    That closing two-sentence motto is chilling to everyone who values equal rights for all. It says: “For The Race everything. Outside The Race, nothing.”

    If these morally sickening MEChA quotes were coming from some fringe website, Americans could at least console themselves that it was just a small group of nuts behind it. Nearly every racial and ethnic group has some shady characters and positions in its past and some unbalanced individuals today claiming racial superiority and demanding separatism. But this is coming straight from the official MEChA sites at Georgetown University, the University of Texas, UCLA, University of Michigan, University of Colorado, University of Oregon, and many other colleges and universities around the country.

    MEChA was in fact reported to be one of the main organizers of those street demonstrations we witnessed over the past weeks. That helps explain why those hordes of illegal immigrants weren’t asking for amnesty — they were demanding an end to U.S. law, period. Unlike past waves of immigrants who sought to become responsible members of American society, these protesters reject American society altogether, because they have been taught that America rightfully belongs to them.

    ***
    MEChA and the La Raza movement teach that Colorado, California, Arizona, Texas, Utah, New Mexico, Oregon and parts of Washington State make up an area known as “Aztlan” — a fictional ancestral homeland of the Aztecs before Europeans arrived in North America. As such, it belongs to the followers of MEChA. These are all areas America should surrender to “La Raza” once enough immigrants, legal or illegal, enter to claim a majority, as in Los Angeles. The current borders of the United States will simply be extinguished.

    This plan is what is referred to as the “Reconquista” or reconquest, of the Western U.S.

    But it won’t end with territorial occupation and secession. The final plan for the La Raza movement includes the ethnic cleansing of Americans of European, African, and Asian descent out of “Aztlan.”

    ***
    As Miguel Perez of Cal State-Northridge’s MEChA chapter has been quoted as saying: “The ultimate ideology is the liberation of Aztlan. Communism would be closest [to it]. Once Aztlan is established, ethnic cleansing would commence: Non-Chicanos would have to be expelled — opposition groups would be quashed because you have to keep power.”

    MEChA Plants

    Members of these radical, anti-American, racist organizations are frequently smoothly polished into public respectability by the National Council of La Raza.

    Former MEChA members include Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, who was officially endorsed by La Raza for mayor and was awarded La Raza’s Graciela Olivarez Award. Now we know why he refuses to condemn a sea of foreign flags in his city. California Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante is also a former MEChA member. He delivered the keynote address at La Raza’s 2002 Annual Convention.

    The National Council of La Raza and its allies in public office make no repudiation of the radical MEChA and its positions. In fact, as recently as 2003, La Raza was actively funding MEChA, according to federal tax records.

    http://humanevents.com/2006/04/07/em...about-la-raza/

    In their own words and beliefs, no they are not Miguel...

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    Doesn't matter.

    Our culture is fat and lazy. We need immigrants to do the physical labor now. Soon our fight to be superior will die and we will be behind stronger men such as the chinese. They will invade and take our women and breed a stronger race

    Democrats have the market cornered on the fat and lazy vote... the immigration vote... the race baiting vote...

    They are power hungry, immoral, non principled and are in full power and with every executive action they take just a little more liberty, a little more culture, a little more freedom

    I see nothing changing this tide in American history
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    Quote Originally Posted by HawgZWylde View Post
    “For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada.” Eh Miguel?

    Radical ‘Reconquista’ Agenda

    Behind the respectable front of the National Council of La Raza lies the real agenda of the La Raza movement, the agenda that led to those thousands of illegal immigrants in the streets of American cities, waving Mexican flags, brazenly defying our laws, and demanding concessions.

    Key among the secondary organizations is the radical racist group Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, or Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan (MEChA), one of the most anti-American groups in the country, which has permeated U.S. campuses since the 1960s, and continues its push to carve a racist nation out of the American West.

    One of America’s greatest strengths has always been taking in immigrants from cultures around the world, and assimilating them into our country as Americans. By being citizens of the U.S. we are Americans first, and only, in our national loyalties.

    This is totally opposed by MEChA for the hordes of illegal immigrants pouring across our borders, to whom they say:

    “Chicano is our identity; it defines who we are as people. It rejects the notion that we…should assimilate into the Anglo-American melting pot…Aztlan was the legendary homeland of the Aztecas … It became synonymous with the vast territories of the Southwest, brutally stolen from a Mexican people marginalized and betrayed by the hostile custodians of the Manifest Destiny.” (Statement on University of Oregon MEChA Website, Jan. 3, 2006)

    MEChA isn’t at all shy about their goals, or their views of other races. Their founding principles are contained in these words in “El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan” (The Spiritual Plan for Aztlan):

    “In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not only of its proud historical heritage but also of the brutal gringo invasion of our territories, we, the Chicano inhabitants and civilizers of the northern land of Aztlan from whence came our forefathers, reclaiming the land of their birth and consecrating the determination of our people of the sun, declare that the call of our blood is our power, our responsibility, and our inevitable destiny. … Aztlan belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans. … We are a bronze people with a bronze culture. Before the world, before all of North America, before all our brothers in the bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a union of free pueblos, we are Aztlan. For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada.”

    That closing two-sentence motto is chilling to everyone who values equal rights for all. It says: “For The Race everything. Outside The Race, nothing.”

    If these morally sickening MEChA quotes were coming from some fringe website, Americans could at least console themselves that it was just a small group of nuts behind it. Nearly every racial and ethnic group has some shady characters and positions in its past and some unbalanced individuals today claiming racial superiority and demanding separatism. But this is coming straight from the official MEChA sites at Georgetown University, the University of Texas, UCLA, University of Michigan, University of Colorado, University of Oregon, and many other colleges and universities around the country.

    MEChA was in fact reported to be one of the main organizers of those street demonstrations we witnessed over the past weeks. That helps explain why those hordes of illegal immigrants weren’t asking for amnesty — they were demanding an end to U.S. law, period. Unlike past waves of immigrants who sought to become responsible members of American society, these protesters reject American society altogether, because they have been taught that America rightfully belongs to them.

    ***
    MEChA and the La Raza movement teach that Colorado, California, Arizona, Texas, Utah, New Mexico, Oregon and parts of Washington State make up an area known as “Aztlan” — a fictional ancestral homeland of the Aztecs before Europeans arrived in North America. As such, it belongs to the followers of MEChA. These are all areas America should surrender to “La Raza” once enough immigrants, legal or illegal, enter to claim a majority, as in Los Angeles. The current borders of the United States will simply be extinguished.

    This plan is what is referred to as the “Reconquista” or reconquest, of the Western U.S.

    But it won’t end with territorial occupation and secession. The final plan for the La Raza movement includes the ethnic cleansing of Americans of European, African, and Asian descent out of “Aztlan.”

    ***
    As Miguel Perez of Cal State-Northridge’s MEChA chapter has been quoted as saying: “The ultimate ideology is the liberation of Aztlan. Communism would be closest [to it]. Once Aztlan is established, ethnic cleansing would commence: Non-Chicanos would have to be expelled — opposition groups would be quashed because you have to keep power.”

    MEChA Plants

    Members of these radical, anti-American, racist organizations are frequently smoothly polished into public respectability by the National Council of La Raza.

    Former MEChA members include Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, who was officially endorsed by La Raza for mayor and was awarded La Raza’s Graciela Olivarez Award. Now we know why he refuses to condemn a sea of foreign flags in his city. California Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante is also a former MEChA member. He delivered the keynote address at La Raza’s 2002 Annual Convention.

    The National Council of La Raza and its allies in public office make no repudiation of the radical MEChA and its positions. In fact, as recently as 2003, La Raza was actively funding MEChA, according to federal tax records.

    http://humanevents.com/2006/04/07/em...about-la-raza/

    In their own words and beliefs, no they are not Miguel...
    I didnt know being an American Citizen was based on beliefs.

    I always thought that being born here, on US controlled land overseas, or being naturalized made you a US Citizen.

    Thanks for the clarification that being a US citizen is based on whether or not you agree with someone's views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkShadow View Post
    I didnt know being an American Citizen was based on beliefs.

    I always thought that being born here, on US controlled land overseas, or being naturalized made you a US Citizen.

    Thanks for the clarification that being a US citizen is based on whether or not you agree with someone's views.
    What's your point? You are completely deflecting from my O.P. in order to attempt to discredit. If your beliefs and actions are to overthrow our constitution based federal republic and make it into a race based banana republic you are espousing a bit more than just an opinion...
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    Hey tucky this is your baby, you started this thread and then ran away from making YOUR opinion known. I've seen you post today so I know you've seen it since you first posted, so what gives dude? Are you a coward or are you going to take a stand and show us what side of the fence you're on?

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