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Thread: Couple things to help you guys along with the changing conditions.

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    Default Couple things to help you guys along with the changing conditions.

    Hey guys, it's been a while since I really went on here to give an informative post to help you guys out. The questions keep coming in my inbox to whether or not the big fish are on beds. As a lot of you know this is almost like nails on a chalk board to me but putting aside my personal beliefs on bed fishing, I figured I'd help a lot of novice anglers along to understand the stage that the fish are in on DVL. As you all know we've had an unusual Winter; Or lack there of! Warm days, cool nights and falling water has made tracking the larger groups of big fish a real pain in the butt for me. I've had to pull out a lot of tricks to get them to go but in the past few weeks things have
    started to happen. Where fish would be retreating to from Fall to Winter and through the trout stocks, these same areas just weren't harboring the numbers. or size of fish. that I've been trying to target. Its as if the fish haven't moved too far away from where they were in late Summer and early Fall. There's a large group of fish up on the bank on beds right now full of small rediculous sized fish but the largest wave of fish have yet to hit the shore line.

    There's a healthy batch of fish staging on main and secondary points in 15-30' of water right now. These fish are the second or perhaps 3rd wave of fish full of 2 to 2-3/4 pound males. Here and there you'll rope into 4 to 5 pound fish but the main batch of fish is right around or just under 3 pounds. As temperatures continue to rise both the males and females will make their move up these pre spawn staging spots the next few days and eventually search out an area to spawn. As these pre spawn fish have yet to take up residence on the bank, there are healthy schools of fish in "wind trap" areas. These fish are taking the spinnerbait, chatterbait and shallow crank. By "wind trap" I mean, vertical banks, windblown coves, underwater structure creating or displacing current. Like I've said in many posts before, Pretend the wind is a big finger pointing at the shore you need to fish. Keep things simple and you'll get bit.

    The "fall bait" bite is going strong with senkos and ikas being the mainstay for a lot of guys. These fish that have yet to spawn and are filtering up on the bank are using a lot of these trees as stopping points. All you gotta do is find the color, and get after it. You'll go through 3-5 bags a day right now but its still a gamble whether or not you're going to get fish over 4 or 5 pounds. Lots of fish in the same 2 to 2-3/4 pound size.

    The big worm bite has been back for a while now but many guys fail to give it a chance thinking it's long gone or if we're telling stories. Grab your favorite color 1/4oz weight and worm hook and get to shakin crazy. I'm sure many colors will work but I'd stay with colors in the realm of green pumpkin, watermelons and chocolate blue vein. Typical craw or fin fish imitations. The only limitations to your fishing is when you stop trying new things.

    The way I personally fish is by the big bait, big fish mentality. Timing, hard work and a lot of low count days in the hopes of striking it rich with a solid fish. I put a lot of time on the big baits and am really protective over the areas I fish. Ive been criticized A LOT lately regarding this. The way I figure, I put countless $$$, time and energy in to seeking out the monsters. I dont feel its my obligation to draw a map and send 50 guys on their way and spoon feed them what something I've stressed about, lost sleep over and have been pondered for days and weeks on end. My answer has always been I'm going to show you what I use, how I fish it and give you the knowledge to go out and find your own areas. That's by far more valuable than a map of where the bite was yesterday.

    So basically here's what I'm doing. I've targeting both pre and post spawn fish with the swimbait. In specific I'm throwing glide baits in the realm of 10"-13". I'm giving them a meal to eat thats moving at a snails pace. Something a big loaded down girl or a tired lethargic fish isn't intimidated by chasing or worried about expending more energy than necessary to eat. I'm paying very close attention to areas where fish are funneling up on the bank and areas where spawning flats breakway to deep water. When the plus and minus factors stack in my favor I'll camp down in an area for a loooong time and pick my moments to cast. I build a batch of spots and rotate them when conditions match, that's the reason many of you see me running all around the lake back and forth from spot to spot.

    Here are a couple fish I've caught recently on the lake that's long gone. The bite is there, its just taking some outside the box thinking right now.

    The lake is fishing great, have fun and above all treat EVERY angler on the water with respect!


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    Nice job as always Matt.

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    Great post Matt. It's definitely on now and the bites only going to get better. Can't wait to get out tomorrow...

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    Thank you for sharing the info. You gave me some of my first info on bass years ago at Baja Vinnys. Actually sold me my first California swimbabes swimbait.

    About 6 more weeks and my boat will be here and I can get out there more often.

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    Thanks Matt, your post rock. That first fish is a absolute beast, what was the weight on that thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDS13 View Post
    Thanks Matt, your post rock. That first fish is a absolute beast, what was the weight on that thing.
    11.3 and 11.4. the first fish had the frame for a teener. she was in post spawn. when i netted it i flipped. dumped her in the livewell so she could catch her breathe (chore getting the hooks out) and when i pulled her out my stomach sorta sank. still a good one though.
    Last edited by Matt_Magnone; 03-19-2014 at 07:03 PM.

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    Wow! I was gonna say between 12 and 14lbs. and close to 28 in, still those are great fish, congrats. I just want to say thanks also for all the great info you put out there over the years, as a fisherman that does not get out on the water as much as I would like, the tips you provide are essential for me to put together a plan of attack, with usually good results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDS13 View Post
    Wow! I was gonna say between 12 and 14lbs. and close to 28 in, still those are great fish, congrats. I just want to say thanks also for all the great info you put out there over the years, as a fisherman that does not get out on the water as much as I would like, the tips you provide are essential for me to put together a plan of attack, with usually good results.
    i appreciate that man. you dont know how good it makes me feel to have people thank me when it comes to helping them better their own fishing. i throw out a lot of really important information and im sure a lot people cant or wont soak it it. its always great when people take the time to decipher the madness and apply it for success.

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    Good **** Matt!! Your info is very helpful, and your the reason I shop at last chance! Haha

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    Thanks for the info Matt, I don't fish DVL much, but I take my kayak out to Skinner often and use your info there with great success. Like you said, learning the technique is more valuable than a hand drawn map. Thanks again, Jaime

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