I post about fishing and flyfishing 99.9 % of the time because i dont like drama... but this is my 1%. Im about to order a pair of sun sleeves from SIMMS... i know a lot of u don' t like the sun masks (''buffs'') I was one of them, but now after 3 years of wearing one i will not go without one. I try sunscreen and my neck and face was f..up for a week but with ''buff'' mask the next day my face and neck were ok. when i get my sleeves in the mail I will wear them to catalina for 12 hours and give you a product report. Just so you know i fish 8 to 12 hours every weekend be nice if you see me on the water with my sleeves and mask