Maybe the u.s. Does have something to do with it???

[FELIPE]

Fast and Furious




The goal of the Fast and Furi*ous op*er*a*tion, run by the Phoenix of*fice of the ATF, was to al*low straw pur*chasers to il*leg*ally buy weapons in the U.S. so agents could learn the traf*fick*ers’ routes in*to Mex*ico. The agents were then sup*posed to in*ter*vene be*fore the guns were sold to drug car*tels. But agents lost track of roughly 1,700 weapons, and hun*dreds soon began show*ing up at hom*icide scenes in Mex*ico.

Full cov*er*age: ATF’s Fast and Furi*ous scan*dal







Fast and Furious: OIG report
Sept. 19, 2012 By Richard A. Serrano
An in*vest*ig*at*ive re*port by the De*part*ment of Justice’s Of*fice of the In*spect*or Gen*er*al found that 14 fed*er*al law en*force*ment of*fi*cials — from field agents in Ari*zona to top man*agers in the Bur*eau of Al*co*hol, To*bacco, Fire*arms and Ex*plos*ives and the Justice De*part*ment in Wash*ing*ton — cre*ated a “sig*ni*fic*ant danger to pub*lic safety” un*der Op*er*a*tion Fast and Furi*ous.







DEA acknowledges supporting role
Aug. 5, 2011 By Richard A. Serrano
The head of the Drug En*force*ment Ad*min*is*tra*tion has ac*know*ledged to con*gres*sion*al in*vest*ig*at*ors that her agency provided a sup*port*ing role in the ill-fated Op*er*a*tion Fast and Furi*ous run by the group’s coun*ter*parts at the ATF.







Fast and Furious emails
July 28, 2011 By Richard A. Serrano
The ATF’s field su*per*visor on the South*w*est bor*der sent a series of emails last year to a top White House na*tion*al se*cur*ity of*fi*cial de*tail*ing the agency’s am*bi*tious ef*forts to stop weapons traf*fick*ing in*to Mex*ico, but did not men*tion that a botched sting op*er*a*tion already had al*lowed hun*dreds of guns to flow to drug car*tels.







Ballistics report from ATF agent’s killing
July 26, 2011 By Richard A. Serrano
The claim by seni*or ATF of*fi*cials that none of the weapons lost in the botched Fast and Furi*ous sting op*er*a*tion were used in the shoot*ing of a Bor*der Patrol agent is not sup*por*ted by FBI bal*list*ics tests, ac*cord*ing to a copy of the FBI re*port on the shoot*ing.







Fast and Furious Congressional report
July 26, 2011 By Richard A. Serrano
Rep. Dar*rell Issa (R-Vista) and Sen. Charles E. Grass*ley (R-Iowa) of the Sen*ate Ju*di*ciary Com*mit*tee are in*vest*ig*at*ing the ATF’s Fast and Furi*ous op*er*a*tion. A re*port re*leased Monday by the House Com*mit*tee on Over*sight and Gov*ern*ment Re*form, which Issa chairs, doc*u*ments their find*ings so far.







Embassy kept in dark as guns flooded Mexico
July 25, 2011 By Richard A. Serrano
An em*bassy cable adds to evid*ence that of*fi*cials at ATF were keep*ing oth*er parts of the gov*ern*ment in the dark about their op*er*a*tion.







ATF emails in agent’s shooting death
July 21, 2011 By Richard A. Serrano
Two days after U.S. Bor*der Patrol Agent Bri*an A. Terry was killed in Decem*ber, the top ATF su*per*visors in Phoenix said in in*tern*al emails that weapons found at the scene in Ari*zona came from a failed agency sting op*er*a*tion.

I KNOW BUT TO MOST OF YOU THE ATROCIETS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BORDER AINT YOUR PROBLEM RIGHT OUTA SIGHT OUTA MIND....
BUT MEMBER WHEN THE TWO AGENTS GOT GUNNED DOWN????

[FELIPE]

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A retired agent of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) has revealed all of the clandestine facts concerning the agency's operation known as Fast and Furious, the illegal scheme that placed thousands of firearms in the hands of Mexican drug criminals.

On Friday, GunMag, a publication of the Second Amendment Foundation, reported that the former agent revealed all to one its national correspondents in an informal talk at the firing range. The agent revealed that Fast and Furious was only one of a three pronged approach by the ATF to place draconian restrictions on the gun rights of American citizens.

The first line of attack was to discredit U.S. firearms dealers by blaming them for the fact that nearly 2,000 guns were somehow walked across the border where they wound up being used by Mexican drug cartels to commit crimes, including the murders of over 300 Mexican citizens and at least two U.S. federal agents. The plan was to withhold from the public vital information that ATF agents set up straw purchasers to buy the guns illegally and that the ATF had already solicited the "help" of the firearms dealers, insuring their cooperation by telling them they would be part of a federal sting operation.

But the scheme never had a chance due to the fact that a few conscientious ATF agents blew the whistle on the illegal activity, placing the agency under heavy fire from Republicans in Congress. Had the agents not come forward with the truth, then the scheme may have worked, and the public would have been treated to a nightly barrage of news reports describing in great detail how gun stores along the southern border are rife with corruption.

The second part of the ATF's systematic effort to hamstring the gun rights of Americans was to place undue pressure on gun and ammo manufacturers and importers to the extent that they would be driven out of business. This they would do by arbitrarily applying rules and regulations in a manner in which they had never been used in the past.

Apparently this is precisely what the ATF was doing earlier in the year when numerous reports were filed from the state of Alaska indicating that gun stores had been contacted by ATF agents instructing them to turn over their "bound books" containing the names and information of customers who had made purchases in their stores.

Agents told one dealer that the book was the property of the ATF and that the agency had the right to take it.

But the law states otherwise. The bound book is required by law to be kept on the premises of each gun dealer, available for inspection by the ATF but never removed unless the dealer goes out of business.

The ATF is further prohibited by law from accessing all of the information in the book. Only that information that is pertinent to an ongoing investigation is to be made available to agents.

Due to the public outcry against the ATF in this case, local Alaska congressmen and U.S. Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, contacted the agency and requested an official review of the law and the practices of agents operating out of the Seattle Field Division, which has oversight of Alaska.

The result was that the ATF received a slap on the wrist.

A third prong of the overarching scheme of the ATF to mount a direct assault on the gun rights of citizens was a new concerted effort at what was described as "examination and testing." Agents would place seized firearms under strict and thorough testing to determine whether or not they were in compliance with all federal laws. And if even a minor infraction were discovered, the gun owner in question would be arrested and prosecuted for possessing a firearm that did not meet federal standards.

A point of enormous significance was made by the retired ATF agent in making a distinction between Operation Gunrunner during the years of the Bush administration and Operation Fast and Furious of the Obama administration. Gunrunner, said the agent, was a strictly controlled sting operation during which a limited number of guns were sent across the border and closely tracked in order to catch criminals. But as soon as the Obama administration took office in 2009, the program changed into something entirely different. Thousands, not hundreds, of guns were smuggled, and there was no attempt whatsoever to track them.

This fact would seem to confirm what ATF whistleblowers have said all along, that the Obama administration intended to use Fast and Furious as a means by which to make its case that "lax gun control laws" in the U.S. are to blame for Mexican violence and that gun rights therefore should be severely restricted.

[HawgZWylde]

Check this out Felipe;

The Obama administration clearly hoped that the Department of Justice’s Inspector General report on Operation Fast and Furious would be the last word on the scandal. which has been tied to hundreds of deaths in Mexico and the murders of two American law-enforcement officials. However, a new report from Univision to be broadcast tomorrow, previewed here by ABC News, may put the issue back on the front pages. One source called Univision’s findings the “holy grail” that Congressional investigators have been seeking:

Here's the link to the full article;

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/09/2...-fast-furious/

Doesn't look good for Obama and Holder...

[FELIPE]

Thats my point i believe regardless whos in the white house it would have happened...
Presidents are simply finger puppets. But because obamas in the house lets all let it fall on him right?
Would this be the first time different gov. Branches had their own agenda??? Wasnt kennedy gonna cause some atrocity,
and blame castro,but was discovered and had to crreate the bay of pigs as a deturrance from national attention???
Nine ellevaN comes to mind????

[FELIPE]

Maybe we should hunt down lil bush...if yall really do care???

[flybynight]

Yea, Obama will say BUSH did it !

[HawgZWylde]

Maybe we should hunt down lil bush...if yall really do care???

For what? And then do what to him?

[FELIPE]

Uhhhh w.m.d??? War in the middle east? Boldely lying to the world representing americans,
oh wait you guys stand by the destruction of the middle east right??? And any people`s you dont like.

DO WHAT TO HIM?? UH EVER HEARD OF JUSTICE!!! OH YEAH YOU MUST OF HEARD OF JUST-US!!!!

[FELIPE]

yea, obama will say bush did it ! :eyepop:

bush has his own guilt doesnt need any of obamas!!

[HawgZWylde]

Uhhhh w.m.d??? War in the middle east? Boldely lying to the world representing americans,
oh wait you guys stand by the destruction of the middle east right??? And any people`s you dont like.

DO WHAT TO HIM?? UH EVER HEARD OF JUSTICE!!! OH YEAH YOU MUST OF HEARD OF JUST-US!!!!

These WMD's Felipe?
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editor...aq-.htm?p=full
http://pjmedia.com/blog/satellite-ph...went-to-syria/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...s-arsenal.html

Google Iraq WMD's in Syria. Boatloads of articles to be found.

3,000 people were murdered on 9/11 by folks from the middle east. They declared war on us and we reciprocated in kind. TFB for them.

Who should apply that "justice to Bush" Felipe. And what should that "justice" comprise of?