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View Poll Results: Who are you going to vote for?

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  • Barrack Obama

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  • some other idiot

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  1. #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by etucker1959 View Post
    I'm usualy told to move to Northern Europe, you guys aren't my first rodeo!!!! lol I do have a thing for blondes so that real not such a bad idea.
    Great... What are you waiting for?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawgZWylde View Post
    Since when have communism and advanced socialism ever been associated with freedom?
    Guy's you know what I really believe in, MERCANTILISM which is not communism or advanced socialism. The government has got to stop the outsourcing of jobs and all the importing of cheap goods. The private sector won't do that on their own, remember their motto buy low and sell high. Creation of jobs in the private sector is not their problem, if they gave you an honest answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DockRat View Post
    This guy wants Obama to come clean.
    Jump to 25 seconds. DR

    Man I like this guy he says it like it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etucker1959 View Post
    Guy's you know what I really believe in, MERCANTILISM which is not communism or advanced socialism. The government has got to stop the outsourcing of jobs and all the importing of cheap goods. The private sector won't do that on their own, remember their motto buy low and sell high. Creation of jobs in the private sector is not their problem, if they gave you an honest answer.
    I call you out as BS on the Government has to stop outsourcing; Government is the CAUSE of outsourcing. I have been the owner of three businesses in my life time and in management of an International company with over 600 employees. I can tell you for a fact that you are only in business for two reasons: FUN & PROFIT. If there is NO PROFIT it is NO FUN.
    Profit is not a dirty word it is profit that allows a business to grow (if you are not growing, you are dying), to pay its bills, to hire and promote good employees and return a dividend to its shareholders or investors for taking a risk. Oh, and to pay taxes on what it is legally obligated for.
    It is the Government (Federal, State, and Local) that is driving business out of the country and California. Taxes, regulations, fees and agency requirement are choking the small businessman and big business to death. If you like dealing with the DMV or the Post Office or City Hall imagine also dealing with OSHA, EPA, AQMD, State Board of Equalization, Planning, Zoning and Code Enforcement. It’s never ending and the laws and new regulations are added and changed almost daily. It is not a level playing field when competing in the global market place; we are carrying the ball uphill while our foreign competition is running the ball downhill. If Government would just get out of the way the growth would be staggering.
    Government is in fact a big business a very big business with little or no accountability. The Government shareholders (we the taxpayers) do not get an equal return on our investment as we would in any other business investment. The Government has no incentive to balance the budget as we the shareholders can always be asked/forced to invest more and more. Furthermore few if any of the takers of Government benefits/handouts have any skin in the game. Benefits and institutions (SS, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, EBT, Section 8, Farm Subsidies, Block Grants, PEL Grants, etc, etc.) that were originally set up to be a SAFETY NET and rightly so have turned into a way of life for so many.
    The 16 Billion deficit (and growing), no balanced budget, the Fed and Helicopter Ben going wild (EQ1, QE2 and possibly QE3) is a giant Ponzi scheme that is going to fall apart with disastrous consequences beyond anything you or I can imagine. And sadly there is nothing you can do to prepare for or protect yourself from it when it all comes crashing down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEVOREFLYER View Post
    I call you out as BS on the Government has to stop outsourcing; Government is the CAUSE of outsourcing. I have been the owner of three businesses in my life time and in management of an International company with over 600 employees. I can tell you for a fact that you are only in business for two reasons: FUN & PROFIT. If there is NO PROFIT it is NO FUN.
    Profit is not a dirty word it is profit that allows a business to grow (if you are not growing, you are dying), to pay its bills, to hire and promote good employees and return a dividend to its shareholders or investors for taking a risk. Oh, and to pay taxes on what it is legally obligated for.
    It is the Government (Federal, State, and Local) that is driving business out of the country and California. Taxes, regulations, fees and agency requirement are choking the small businessman and big business to death. If you like dealing with the DMV or the Post Office or City Hall imagine also dealing with OSHA, EPA, AQMD, State Board of Equalization, Planning, Zoning and Code Enforcement. It’s never ending and the laws and new regulations are added and changed almost daily. It is not a level playing field when competing in the global market place; we are carrying the ball uphill while our foreign competition is running the ball downhill. If Government would just get out of the way the growth would be staggering.
    Government is in fact a big business a very big business with little or no accountability. The Government shareholders (we the taxpayers) do not get an equal return on our investment as we would in any other business investment. The Government has no incentive to balance the budget as we the shareholders can always be asked/forced to invest more and more. Furthermore few if any of the takers of Government benefits/handouts have any skin in the game. Benefits and institutions (SS, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, EBT, Section 8, Farm Subsidies, Block Grants, PEL Grants, etc, etc.) that were originally set up to be a SAFETY NET and rightly so have turned into a way of life for so many.
    The 16 Billion deficit (and growing), no balanced budget, the Fed and Helicopter Ben going wild (EQ1, QE2 and possibly QE3) is a giant Ponzi scheme that is going to fall apart with disastrous consequences beyond anything you or I can imagine. And sadly there is nothing you can do to prepare for or protect yourself from it when it all comes crashing down.
    You hit the nail squarely on the head and then drove it home. Great post!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEVOREFLYER View Post
    I call you out as BS on the Government has to stop outsourcing; Government is the CAUSE of outsourcing. I have been the owner of three businesses in my life time and in management of an International company with over 600 employees. I can tell you for a fact that you are only in business for two reasons: FUN & PROFIT. If there is NO PROFIT it is NO FUN.
    Profit is not a dirty word it is profit that allows a business to grow (if you are not growing, you are dying), to pay its bills, to hire and promote good employees and return a dividend to its shareholders or investors for taking a risk. Oh, and to pay taxes on what it is legally obligated for.
    It is the Government (Federal, State, and Local) that is driving business out of the country and California. Taxes, regulations, fees and agency requirement are choking the small businessman and big business to death. If you like dealing with the DMV or the Post Office or City Hall imagine also dealing with OSHA, EPA, AQMD, State Board of Equalization, Planning, Zoning and Code Enforcement. It’s never ending and the laws and new regulations are added and changed almost daily. It is not a level playing field when competing in the global market place; we are carrying the ball uphill while our foreign competition is running the ball downhill. If Government would just get out of the way the growth would be staggering.
    Government is in fact a big business a very big business with little or no accountability. The Government shareholders (we the taxpayers) do not get an equal return on our investment as we would in any other business investment. The Government has no incentive to balance the budget as we the shareholders can always be asked/forced to invest more and more. Furthermore few if any of the takers of Government benefits/handouts have any skin in the game. Benefits and institutions (SS, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, EBT, Section 8, Farm Subsidies, Block Grants, PEL Grants, etc, etc.) that were originally set up to be a SAFETY NET and rightly so have turned into a way of life for so many.
    The 16 Billion deficit (and growing), no balanced budget, the Fed and Helicopter Ben going wild (EQ1, QE2 and possibly QE3) is a giant Ponzi scheme that is going to fall apart with disastrous consequences beyond anything you or I can imagine. And sadly there is nothing you can do to prepare for or protect yourself from it when it all comes crashing down.
    I still didn't read anything that severe Mercantilism wouldn't fix. In Economic lingo it's called beggar they neighbor, otherwise he will do it to you. China is the worse culprit and I recently read India is now planning on doing it on a much larger scale also.

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    While I don’t totally disagree with some parts of Mercantilism it isn’t going to happen in your or my lifetime. We will never get back on the gold standard, the enviro whackos will not let this country use ALL of the natural resources we have in this country and we have plenty. Duties and tariffs on imported goods will not be passed by this administration to protect American producers. We would be accused by the UN and the world of Protectionism. Fair trade is an oxymoron, nothing is fair about foreign trade, OPEC is just one example. We are the largest food producer in the world how about we setup the OPEC equal in the food market for US grown food products? How do you think the world would react to that, wars have been fought over less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEVOREFLYER View Post
    While I don’t totally disagree with some parts of Mercantilism it isn’t going to happen in your or my lifetime. We will never get back on the gold standard, the enviro whackos will not let this country use ALL of the natural resources we have in this country and we have plenty. Duties and tariffs on imported goods will not be passed by this administration to protect American producers. We would be accused by the UN and the world of Protectionism. Fair trade is an oxymoron, nothing is fair about foreign trade, OPEC is just one example. We are the largest food producer in the world how about we setup the OPEC equal in the food market for US grown food products? How do you think the world would react to that, wars have been fought over less.
    Absolutely, it's one of the biggest reasons the revolutionary war occurred. England was a "mercantilist" nation at that time. Meanwhile the colonies had become successful free market capitalists. The rest is history...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawgZWylde View Post
    Absolutely, it's one of the biggest reasons the revolutionary war occurred. England was a "mercantilist" nation at that time. Meanwhile the colonies had become successful free market capitalists. The rest is history...
    If you want to talk about history, what was the real reason for the South to pull out of the Union? If you said slavery you are wrong. The correct answer is the South wanted International Economics, and the North wanted domestic Economics. Sound kind of familiar today!!!!! Are we going to have to refight the Civil War again. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by etucker1959 View Post
    If you want to talk about history, what was the real reason for the South to pull out of the Union? If you said slavery you are wrong. The correct answer is the South wanted International Economics, and the North wanted domestic Economics. Sound kind of familiar today!!!!! Are we going to have to refight the Civil War again. lol
    Well you did get one thing correct (the Civil War), and the North really wanted the revenue, you know the mothers milk of politics, too bad schools don't teach real history instead of agendas.

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