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    Quote Originally Posted by fishinarteest View Post
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    Fixed that for you. The URL for the logo is http://s13.postimage.org/h741ezw3n/BUCKET.png
    Just impose [img] brackets on it. Don't let your colors hit the ground, Private.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyler View Post
    Fixed that for you. The URL for the logo is http://s13.postimage.org/h741ezw3n/BUCKET.png
    Just impose [img] brackets on it. Don't let your colors hit the ground, Private.
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    SIR YES SIR!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawgZWylde View Post
    Comparing health insurance to automobile insurance is a bogus argument. My health insurance is not going to pay for your care if you get a cold, flu, aides, or any other kind of disease from me or my family, yours is. My automobile insurance IS going to pay for your damages if "I" cream you in an accident, that's called liability, as you should well know.
    Actually it is not a bogus argument. In a scenario where liability insurance was not a requirement, drivers would have to add uninsured-motorist policies to their coverage in order to recover the cost of repairs where they were not at fault. In such a scenario, the more insurance companies would have to pay out on such claims, the higher the premiums for uninsured-motorist policies would be.

    As you should well know.

    Health care providers do not absorb the costs of uninsured patients - unless their goal is to declare bankruptcy. Those costs get passed along to those who do pay for services. (On a side note: unless you've been living under a rock, you've probably heard of hospitals closing down their emergency services. I'll give you one guess as to why.)

    Quote Originally Posted by HawgZWylde View Post
    Here is the true and un-spun position of the Heritage Foundation regarding health care.
    I just sneezed milk back into my bowl of Cheerios.

    Quote Originally Posted by HawgZWylde View Post
    OPEN THE MARKET THROUGH DEREGULATION FOR MORE AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE IS THE MESSAGE.
    Don't. Make. Me. Laugh.

    In the world we live in at this moment, who in their right mind believes that deregulating one of the largest industries in this country is a WISE idea? We are still dealing with the disaster that came as a result of banking deregulation, and yet you have political nincompoops carrying a torch for yet another profit-driven industry? For a moment, let's entertain this fantasy where we "deregulate" health care in the hopes of reaching medical Shangri-La. What do you propose we do when major health care providers mismanage their businesses to the point of bringing health care to the edge of oblivion? A bail-out perhaps?

    EDIT: And who the eff is this Bucket Brigade?
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    You have to end with a [/img], and start with a [img] with the url between. No spaces or it won't work, Private.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyler View Post
    You have to end with a [/img], and start with a [img] with the url between. No spaces or it won't work, Private.
    i know but it still didnt work. But i'll get it sir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Quagga View Post
    Actually it is not a bogus argument. In a scenario where liability insurance was not a requirement, drivers would have to add uninsured-motorist policies to their coverage in order to recover the cost of repairs where they were not at fault. In such a scenario, the more insurance companies would have to pay out on such claims, the higher the premiums for uninsured-motorist policies would be.

    As you should well know.

    Health care providers do not absorb the costs of uninsured patients - unless their goal is to declare bankruptcy. Those costs get passed along to those who do pay for services. (On a side note: unless you've been living under a rock, you've probably heard of hospitals closing down their emergency services. I'll give you one guess as to why.)



    I just sneezed milk back into my bowl of Cheerios.



    Don't. Make. Me. Laugh.

    In the world we live in at this moment, who in their right mind believes that deregulating one of the largest industries in this country is a WISE idea? We are still dealing with the disaster that came as a result of banking deregulation, and yet you have political nincompoops carrying a torch for yet another profit-driven industry? For a moment, let's entertain this fantasy where we "deregulate" health care in the hopes of reaching medical Shangri-La. What do you propose we do when major health care providers mismanage their businesses to the point of bringing health care to the edge of oblivion? A bail-out perhaps?

    EDIT: And who the eff is this Bucket Brigade?
    Indeed, a bogus argument it is. Your hypothetical example is null and void because liability IS a requirement, as it should be when you take a thousand pound missile with wheels out onto the road and subject others to YOUR driving habits. If you choose not to purchase uninsured motorist coverage, and you are hit by an uninsured motorist, YOU are out of luck. If you do, you are ALREADY PAYING FOR IT and should NOT be penalized if you ever, repeat, ever, should need use it. In 37 years of driving, I haven't, yet I keep paying it.

    "Health care providers do not absorb the costs of uninsured patients - unless their goal is to declare bankruptcy. Those costs get passed along to those who do pay for services. (On a side note: unless you've been living under a rock, you've probably heard of hospitals closing down their emergency services. I'll give you one guess as to why.)"

    Illegals and highly irresponsible people such as drug addicts, alcoholics, lazy chronically unemployed folks who CHOOSE not to be responsible working and contributing members of civil society. All folks who we are going to be FORCED to pay for. I worked my arse off all my life and responsibly have taken care of myself, and my family of 5. I WILL NOT BE FORCED TO PAY FOR SAID LOSERS OF SOCIETY. I WILL contribute to the elderly, the handicapped, and the veterans who put their lives on the line to protect and defend our constitution based federal republic's guaranteed INDIVIDUAL freedoms and liberties and the people who live in it.

    "I just sneezed milk back into my bowl of Cheerios."

    You obviously didn't read it, and is a perfect example of your partisanship (socialist much quagga? Indeed, they are a communal, pervasive, invasive, and problematic collective that are a pain in the arse for all us anglers. The irony, indeed). Perhaps a couple of those cheeriOs wedged themselves into to your nasal passages and will allow more oxygen into your brain and the increased oxygen supply will allow it to produce some common sense. The Heritage Foundation is espousing answers for the problem using FREE MARKET ideas. You know, the laws of supply and demand.

    "Don't. Make. Me. Laugh."

    Trust me, I'm not laughing, and I have no intention of "making you laugh". I take very seriously what a minority of citizens, and non-citizen supporters are attempting to force upon the majority 63% of AMERICAN CITIZENS who oppose this monstrosity of collective socialist thought and free market destruction. This program will be a disaster for our country and will drive the final nail in America's private enterprise, free market coffin. There are far better answers than a complete government takeover of one of the largest segments of our private enterprise based society. You're smart, you should know this.

    You use the word "deregulate" loosely. I don't. I prefer to use the word "reform". For instance, currently, due to bad government regulations, health insurance cannot be sold across state lines, effectively creating 50 insurance cartels, or monopolies if you will, to charge, and lose all they want, or not. Allowing nationwide sales would INCREASE competition and through free market principals, FORCE competitive pricing, hence lowering costs and premiums. The medical industry's regs are just as bad. Everything pertaining to "healthcare" must be reformed, but not by a "progressive" administration and it's crony capitalist allies in the insurance and pharmaceutical industries in their lame attempt of a power grab, and essentially a "bloodless coup" of our government "type" (the secret "back room deals" between their industry leaders and the Obama administration are now legendary). But instead, through our private, free market based economic model. Bad government regulations got us here because far too many Americans DO NOT PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT OUR GOVERNMENT IS DOING and are undereducated to the point where the vast majority of certain segments of our society are easily mislead by slogans like "Hope & Change", and can't read past those two words. How sad indeed.

    Mismanage? Lol, oh good one quagga. Our current administration has outspent all previous combined in just 3 years. We are in debt to the tune of 16 trillion $$$ and counting. They've given billions to a gaggle of companies who have gone BK(solar anybody?), and given large shares of company control to unions(hint, UAW) at the expense of private shareholders. And you want these same folks to take over everyone's health? Personally, my health is my own business, no one else's. And it "ain't gonna happen".

    Your post is full of ridicule, hypothesis, rhetoric, and what if's? But no suggestions. I put forth the system and ideas I support by posting a link to the one the Heritage Foundation, and Mitt Romney are supporting, and will pass, in place of a socialist coup in one of the largest segments of our fiscal society, that would benefit ALL people, and all businesses that adhere to private enterprise and free market principals. You know, the very principals that made us the greatest, and most desired country in the world to live in.

    Oh, you mention deregulating banks and the housing bust. Why don't you mention the mandates placed on banks that forced banks to loan to unqualified buyers under threat of punitive action by the FDIC for noncompliance? You know, the one certain community organizers and attorneys used to sue said lending institutions, forcing said loans? Fannie and Freddie quagga? They dumped 6 trillion $$$ worth of toxic assets onto our economy. Funny how they are the babies of the demorats. Ask Rahm, he was on the board of directors over at Freddie when all these "deregulation's" took place. Funnier how he helped get Obama elected the first time around...

    "And who the eff is this Bucket Brigade?"

    Lol, you heard her. Answer her!!!!

    I don't know either, but it was one hellofa threadjack, lol...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawgZWylde View Post
    "And who the eff is this Bucket Brigade?"

    Lol, you heard her. Answer her!!!!

    I don't know either, but it was one hellofa threadjack, lol...
    Thanks, we try. Lady Quagga, the following thread is a sampling from our gallery:

    http://fishingnetwork.net/forum4/sho...mell-a-poacher!!!!

    We are a group of ethical anglers with a sense of humor. Enjoy the shenanigans...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyler View Post
    Thanks, we try. Lady Quagga, the following thread is a sampling from our gallery:

    http://fishingnetwork.net/forum4/sho...mell-a-poacher!!!!

    We are a group of ethical anglers with a sense of humor. Enjoy the shenanigans...

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    crap thats how you spell shenanigans. I thought it was spelled shannanigans. learn something new every day. As far as the thread jack that was just a side project. We specialize in using 5 rods, filling our buckets to the brim with fish, and catching more than our legal limit of fish, and pissing off those who are to childish and or ignorant to get our joke lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishinarteest View Post
    crap thats how you spell shenanigans. I thought it was spelled shannanigans. learn something new every day. As far as the thread jack that was just a side project. We specialize in using 5 rods, filling our buckets to the brim with fish, and catching more than our legal limit of fish, and pissing off those who are to childish and or ignorant to get our joke lol.
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    I swear to God, I'm gonna pistol whip the next guy who says "Shenanigans!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear Legal Eagle View Post
    The Supreme Court has just upheld the health care approach innovated by Mitt Romney and the Heritage Foundation. Any comments?
    Yup, you lie! The Obama care bill, and the one the Heritage foundation backs, are two very different animals. One uses the "Free Market" approach through reforms, the other leads to an eventual government takeover. You progressives, always spinning and taking advantage of the uninformed...

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