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Thread: Corona lake stocking trout weds!!!9/28

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr T-rex View Post
    he asked for it
    This post says it all. I am now convinced that this is a 10 year old kid on the other side of this computer. Besides what did you expect him to call you a the best fisherman ever. You kinda just trolled a thread here.
    If your too busy to go fishin; YOUR TOO BUSY!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr T-rex View Post
    ill outfish you anywhere anytime so shut your fat *** up and get on a diet
    No you wont.


    ''DFG does not refer to Corona and SARL as single bodies of water. If they did, they may as well lump in Lake Perris, Lake Elsinore and the Pacific Ocean with the group. Corona Lake isn't even on the Santa Ana River. And "upper" and "lower" would be complete misnomers as SARL consists of 3 lakes that we fish and a number of other standing bodies of water that we don't fish. Unless there is upper, lower, upper middle, lower upper middle upper, lower lower middle upper, etc., the naming scheme just will not work. ''

    Here's the deal "Scooba_Steve", Corona lake DOES get some of its water from the santa ana river. After all, it's virtually right next to it. Its actually hard to find a body of water in socal that isnt fed by the colorado and santa ana river.

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    This is why I'm so involved with this forum site over the others. Plenty of things to learn, and much more active. I don't claim to be the teacher, the know-it-all, or the best and brightest. I'm simply a student teaching students, and definitely a fisherman who fish for more info. By the way guys and gals, don't consider this thread as being hijacked. Either by opinions or by facts, it's a learning thread. Plenty of things in here that can be used as information.

    Quote Originally Posted by scooba_steve View Post
    Having the ability to count the number of times you've done something only proves the rarity to which you have done it. And if in total you've visited the lakes 12 times and you've been to Corona at least 10 times, that means that you've been to SARL and/or Anaheim either 0, 1, or 2 times.

    Anaheim Lake and SARL are entirely separate places and are never identified together as "the lower lake". Nor is Corona lumped in as "Corona-SARL" nor is there an "Anaheim-SARL". Entirely separate places.

    DFG does not refer to Corona and SARL as single bodies of water. If they did, they may as well lump in Lake Perris, Lake Elsinore and the Pacific Ocean with the group. Corona Lake isn't even on the Santa Ana River. And "upper" and "lower" would be complete misnomers as SARL consists of 3 lakes that we fish and a number of other standing bodies of water that we don't fish. Unless there is upper, lower, upper middle, lower upper middle upper, lower lower middle upper, etc., the naming scheme just will not work.
    Recounting all visitation for all sites can be a nightmare when you attempt recall every fishing event from every site, unless you have perfect photographic memory. I'm not one of those people. Best recall I had was 12. Thus, 10 or more at Corona/Corona-SARL/Lee Lake, and 2 distinct times at Anaheim/Anaheim-SARL/SARL. Since I have manage to get some more fact straight that the Anaheim lake was indeed closed, then that lake became obsolete in my statement. However, I did manage to fish that lake twice from my recollection. Call me old, call me senile, but that's all I can remember from that lake. As for the naming monikers of each lake, those who fish those lakes get the lakes name mixed up as well. They either refer the lake to the original name as "Lee Lake", or the Corona Lake, or quick identification as Corona-SARL (notice the missing "s" behind the SARL), as the lake connector to the Santa Ana River chained lakes. Same goes with the Anaheim lake that belongs to the SAR chained lakes. The "upper" and "lower" SARLs defined the locale of the lakes in relation to the business ownership of the properties, since the business had adopted the acronyms that were confusing to start out with. Why not call the lake in Corona, previous known as Lee Lake, as Corona Lake, and the SARLs as Anaheim SARLs. This allows the City's location to be known as a prefix, and the name of the lakes to be fully identified as the suffix. Extreme clarity. Since I gathered that everyone here in agreement that "SARLs" is at the Anaheim location, and "Corona" is in Corona, I'll make adjustment to identifying the locations in accordance. See how much one can learn for adjustment?

    Quote Originally Posted by scooba_steve View Post
    You don't sample water quality. You sample water to test for chemical constituents that impact water quality.
    Water quality sampling is a process that agencies utilize to monitor for the water quality impacts. This involves both identifying the chemical constituents in the water, both for ambient levels (exist in nature without human contributions), and the introduced levels by human activities, or unforeseen conditions such as natural disasters (sometimes can be called as "Acts of God"). So, water quality sampling is a phrased used as notation for monitoring the water quality impact, in comparing the past, current, and future possibilities of water degradation/improvement through analytical data collected, not just for the chemicals existence, but for additional parameters such as BOD, COD, TSS, TDS, pH that cause impairments to the aquatic species dwelling at the water body.

    Quote Originally Posted by scooba_steve View Post
    There is no such thing as a "man-intervention habitat" in ecology. Man may intervene with ecological structuring, but this intervention does not define a specific habitat. Further, a single water sample (as a side note, when n=1, science cries) will tell you minimal about macrofauna as microorganisms absolutely dominate lake chemistry. In fact, I've never heard nor read of a modern lacustrine study centered on macroscopic taxa and/or community dynamics that utilized a single water sample to understand trends in multiple levels of the macrofaunal hierarchy, which in this case includes macrophagous predators. Not to mention that the trout put into the lakes (ie, the subject of this thread) go through a process during the early stages of development that makes them sterile so a "comparison to the minimum fish breeding..." is also a bit problematic.
    Observing your moniker, I would say you're either a scuba specialist, or have done work underwater, in which you are very well acquainted with studies of aqua-cultures. What you're referring to is the life history study of man's impacts to natural environment by erecting structures to either aid the recoveries of habitats, such as natural/synthetic materials, for streams, lakes, ponds, or even oceanic locations. When you have a river where man creates a dam, that's man's intervention of the river's hydro-dynamics. When man floods a plain that was not meant to be flooded for agricultural purposes, or even utilized as a man-made swamp for water treatment purposes, that's man-intervention habitat since aquatic species required to be introduced to control vector issues, as well as an unintentional of introduction of wild animal species such as land and/or air. However, my one (1) sample was simply to analyze the current biotic conditions that exist inside that lake's, primarily on pH, TSS, TDS, BOD, COD, turbidity, level of nitrate-nitrite, arsenic, chromium, phosphate, total petroleum hydrocarbons (TPHs), and mercury. These play a critical factor in showing a tale-tale sign whether or not there is habitat degradation, and current proper support to the aquatic species. Heavy metal like chromium as the TPHs do play a heavy role in retarding the fish's mating rate. BOD and COD do play a major role if fishes are willing to feed based on oxygen content within their systems to promote active feeding. Arsenic = fish's death, and so does human. Turbidity is an indicator for TSS and TDS, which impair fish's vision for hunting for those species utilize sight (trouts, basses). Cats, not too much.

    Quote Originally Posted by scooba_steve View Post
    I believe that I've read a few times from you that "the lakes are using a state owned resource and that they should pay for the damage they have done." I guess that is intended as a show of support for privately ran fishing lakes and encouragement for others to jump into the scene?
    I did indicated that the private lakes are utilized State resources, but not State owned. The water belongs to everyone, thus, monitored by the federal EPA. The water bodies that get monitored constantly are known as Waters of the U.S.. It doesn't mean that Fed or State owns the waters. However, the waters are regulated primarily for human protection, then environmental as secondary. When an entity, business, or even an agency violates the regulatory parameters, acting on behalf of the people and the environment, the local agencies and the state that the waters belong go will enact its legal means. It's like saying, you dumped your trash all over my yard, so, rather than fighting with you, I call the cops to deal with you. The cops have full authority in enforcing you to take care of your garbage and return my yard's conditions back to where it was. Hope that help clears things up.

    Quote Originally Posted by scooba_steve View Post
    Yes, hundreds of anglers participate in this type of survey daily. They report that there are trout, catfish, an assorted variety of panfish, carp, bass, sturgeon and at least a few mysterious mega goldfish swimming about. You too can partake in this study with a 13th visit to the lakes.

    I'm a huge fan of the lakes and I'm a huge fan of fishing. Thank you for the awesome times in the past and the many more that I know are to come in the future. You have a lot of fans out here and this kind of stuff sure inspires me to be a whole lot more vocal! Keep up the great work and keep the fish coming!!!
    I'm a fan of businesses who are willing to go the distant to create a recreational spot for outdoor's men. In this crazy nation of tight regulations, I have to bow down to them for achieving the legal means, resources, and the knowledge to upkeep their businesses. However, just pulling up fishes that doesn't seem to match the amount of fish species going into the water tend to give me plenty of questions to ask, and it bugs the crap out of me to find the answers. Thus, the inquiries. Proper way to fully understand the water body to support that may fish species, in such an amount, required a constant electrocution study. Waste of fishes, but required to fully comprehend what species of fish survived after so many stocking. Perris Lake is constantly monitoring their different fish populations, even though the only stocking in that lake is cats and trouts, and some occasional species from the California Aquifer. One fish death is another's fish foods. Total agreed. But a large amount of fish death from one population may feed other fish populations, but at the same time, impairment to the water quality will also be high. The impairment is mainly focused on human protection, where environmental is secondary. Keep that in mind.

    Once again, I'm not against the owners or staff of the lakes, nor any water body that can be fished from. Rather, just sharing my points of concerns with everyone. Debating..possibly, but based on facts that I've collected. Causing troubles? Nope. Informing is much better way to share wisdom and knowledge than constantly stirring the hornest's nests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr T-rex View Post
    ill outfish you anywhere anytime so shut your fat *** up and get on a diet
    LOL Great job there buddy! Why the anger? Did your mom take your XBOX away again?

    I think you are the one who needs to get out there and fish.

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    He said it is not part of the Santa Ana River Watershed....which is true. SARL and Anaheim lakes are. However Temescal Creek which runs through the valley does end up in the SAR, but only during extremely wet seasons or when Lake Elsinore overflows.........extremely rare.
    Quote Originally Posted by smokehound View Post
    No you wont.


    ''DFG does not refer to Corona and SARL as single bodies of water. If they did, they may as well lump in Lake Perris, Lake Elsinore and the Pacific Ocean with the group. Corona Lake isn't even on the Santa Ana River. And "upper" and "lower" would be complete misnomers as SARL consists of 3 lakes that we fish and a number of other standing bodies of water that we don't fish. Unless there is upper, lower, upper middle, lower upper middle upper, lower lower middle upper, etc., the naming scheme just will not work. ''

    Here's the deal "Scooba_Steve", Corona lake DOES get some of its water from the santa ana river. After all, it's virtually right next to it. Its actually hard to find a body of water in socal that isnt fed by the colorado and santa ana river.
    Last edited by phishin phool; 10-05-2011 at 08:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phishin phool View Post
    He said it is not part of the Santa Ana River Watershed....which is true. SARL and Anaheim lakes are. However Temescal Creek which runs through the valley does end up in the SAR, but only during extremely wet seasons or when Lake Elsinore overflows.........extremely rare.
    Temescal Creek is a tributary of the Santa ana River..

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    hahaha i didnt mean to start a riot!!!!i was justbletting you guys know!!xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian_trout_bass View Post
    hahaha i didnt mean to start a riot!!!!i was justbletting you guys know!!xD
    And that was your third post? Holy smokers. Welcome to the boards!

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