No you wont.
''DFG does not refer to Corona and SARL as single bodies of water. If they did, they may as well lump in Lake Perris, Lake Elsinore and the Pacific Ocean with the group. Corona Lake isn't even on the Santa Ana River. And "upper" and "lower" would be complete misnomers as SARL consists of 3 lakes that we fish and a number of other standing bodies of water that we don't fish. Unless there is upper, lower, upper middle, lower upper middle upper, lower lower middle upper, etc., the naming scheme just will not work. ''
Here's the deal "Scooba_Steve", Corona lake DOES get some of its water from the santa ana river. After all, it's virtually right next to it. Its actually hard to find a body of water in socal that isnt fed by the colorado and santa ana river.
This is why I'm so involved with this forum site over the others. Plenty of things to learn, and much more active. I don't claim to be the teacher, the know-it-all, or the best and brightest. I'm simply a student teaching students, and definitely a fisherman who fish for more info. By the way guys and gals, don't consider this thread as being hijacked. Either by opinions or by facts, it's a learning thread. Plenty of things in here that can be used as information.
Recounting all visitation for all sites can be a nightmare when you attempt recall every fishing event from every site, unless you have perfect photographic memory. I'm not one of those people. Best recall I had was 12. Thus, 10 or more at Corona/Corona-SARL/Lee Lake, and 2 distinct times at Anaheim/Anaheim-SARL/SARL. Since I have manage to get some more fact straight that the Anaheim lake was indeed closed, then that lake became obsolete in my statement. However, I did manage to fish that lake twice from my recollection. Call me old, call me senile, but that's all I can remember from that lake. As for the naming monikers of each lake, those who fish those lakes get the lakes name mixed up as well. They either refer the lake to the original name as "Lee Lake", or the Corona Lake, or quick identification as Corona-SARL (notice the missing "s" behind the SARL), as the lake connector to the Santa Ana River chained lakes. Same goes with the Anaheim lake that belongs to the SAR chained lakes. The "upper" and "lower" SARLs defined the locale of the lakes in relation to the business ownership of the properties, since the business had adopted the acronyms that were confusing to start out with. Why not call the lake in Corona, previous known as Lee Lake, as Corona Lake, and the SARLs as Anaheim SARLs. This allows the City's location to be known as a prefix, and the name of the lakes to be fully identified as the suffix. Extreme clarity. Since I gathered that everyone here in agreement that "SARLs" is at the Anaheim location, and "Corona" is in Corona, I'll make adjustment to identifying the locations in accordance. See how much one can learn for adjustment?
Water quality sampling is a process that agencies utilize to monitor for the water quality impacts. This involves both identifying the chemical constituents in the water, both for ambient levels (exist in nature without human contributions), and the introduced levels by human activities, or unforeseen conditions such as natural disasters (sometimes can be called as "Acts of God"). So, water quality sampling is a phrased used as notation for monitoring the water quality impact, in comparing the past, current, and future possibilities of water degradation/improvement through analytical data collected, not just for the chemicals existence, but for additional parameters such as BOD, COD, TSS, TDS, pH that cause impairments to the aquatic species dwelling at the water body.
Observing your moniker, I would say you're either a scuba specialist, or have done work underwater, in which you are very well acquainted with studies of aqua-cultures. What you're referring to is the life history study of man's impacts to natural environment by erecting structures to either aid the recoveries of habitats, such as natural/synthetic materials, for streams, lakes, ponds, or even oceanic locations. When you have a river where man creates a dam, that's man's intervention of the river's hydro-dynamics. When man floods a plain that was not meant to be flooded for agricultural purposes, or even utilized as a man-made swamp for water treatment purposes, that's man-intervention habitat since aquatic species required to be introduced to control vector issues, as well as an unintentional of introduction of wild animal species such as land and/or air. However, my one (1) sample was simply to analyze the current biotic conditions that exist inside that lake's, primarily on pH, TSS, TDS, BOD, COD, turbidity, level of nitrate-nitrite, arsenic, chromium, phosphate, total petroleum hydrocarbons (TPHs), and mercury. These play a critical factor in showing a tale-tale sign whether or not there is habitat degradation, and current proper support to the aquatic species. Heavy metal like chromium as the TPHs do play a heavy role in retarding the fish's mating rate. BOD and COD do play a major role if fishes are willing to feed based on oxygen content within their systems to promote active feeding. Arsenic = fish's death, and so does human. Turbidity is an indicator for TSS and TDS, which impair fish's vision for hunting for those species utilize sight (trouts, basses). Cats, not too much.
I did indicated that the private lakes are utilized State resources, but not State owned. The water belongs to everyone, thus, monitored by the federal EPA. The water bodies that get monitored constantly are known as Waters of the U.S.. It doesn't mean that Fed or State owns the waters. However, the waters are regulated primarily for human protection, then environmental as secondary. When an entity, business, or even an agency violates the regulatory parameters, acting on behalf of the people and the environment, the local agencies and the state that the waters belong go will enact its legal means. It's like saying, you dumped your trash all over my yard, so, rather than fighting with you, I call the cops to deal with you. The cops have full authority in enforcing you to take care of your garbage and return my yard's conditions back to where it was. Hope that help clears things up.
I'm a fan of businesses who are willing to go the distant to create a recreational spot for outdoor's men. In this crazy nation of tight regulations, I have to bow down to them for achieving the legal means, resources, and the knowledge to upkeep their businesses. However, just pulling up fishes that doesn't seem to match the amount of fish species going into the water tend to give me plenty of questions to ask, and it bugs the crap out of me to find the answers. Thus, the inquiries. Proper way to fully understand the water body to support that may fish species, in such an amount, required a constant electrocution study. Waste of fishes, but required to fully comprehend what species of fish survived after so many stocking. Perris Lake is constantly monitoring their different fish populations, even though the only stocking in that lake is cats and trouts, and some occasional species from the California Aquifer. One fish death is another's fish foods. Total agreed. But a large amount of fish death from one population may feed other fish populations, but at the same time, impairment to the water quality will also be high. The impairment is mainly focused on human protection, where environmental is secondary. Keep that in mind.
Once again, I'm not against the owners or staff of the lakes, nor any water body that can be fished from. Rather, just sharing my points of concerns with everyone. Debating..possibly, but based on facts that I've collected. Causing troubles? Nope. Informing is much better way to share wisdom and knowledge than constantly stirring the hornest's nests.
He said it is not part of the Santa Ana River Watershed....which is true. SARL and Anaheim lakes are. However Temescal Creek which runs through the valley does end up in the SAR, but only during extremely wet seasons or when Lake Elsinore overflows.........extremely rare.
Last edited by phishin phool; 10-05-2011 at 08:03 PM.
hahaha i didnt mean to start a riot!!!!i was justbletting you guys know!!xD