what kind of tests are needed asian guy?
maybe we can do a collection and end the debate for good
-bb
what kind of tests are needed asian guy?
maybe we can do a collection and end the debate for good
-bb
It's true that the lower areas fishes can indeed swim northward, or even a school of fishes, inter-mingle with the fishes at the north ends. You then have a nice mix of highly contaminated fishes with the low or none. However, if you actually evaluate the fishes based on the collective sizing so far, anyone who reported the south end fishes indicated the fishes are larger in sizes and masses. This in itself clearly state that the fishes at the south ends feed better and grow faster than the north ends. It's more clearly that the fishes on the north end will swim southwards to feed rather than the south goes up to the north. Just my observation so far.Originally Posted by DockRat
Mass hysteria always stems out from the so called common sense groups, because there are always the paranoids among the calms. It was the common sense to keep the market at the highest peak to benefit the return during the tech bubble period, yet, it busted before it actually reached its peak. The housing market kept on pushing for the highest returns by declaring the home values to be as high as the market can push it based on a 20-years returns, by common sense calculation, yet, in 7 years, the market bombed before it hits the 20-years marker. California thought it was a common sense to allow Grey Davis to shut all the power plants down except one for maintenance, and purchase power from the other group. That tossed us into a 54 billions debt pit that we are still struggling to climb out off, and still hanging by our nails to pull ourselves out of the pit.
I understand your situation completely about the Imperial Valley. My wife used to live near there in El Centro. I know the conditions of the areas pretty well. However, we live were we work, we work where the it pays to keep a roof over our heads and foods in our bellies, but at the same time, we need to protect ourselves and our properties that we are blessed with. So, rather than trash talking what we have around us, it's better to rally up supporters to help our local community to improve, especially the Salton Sea. That Sea did support a huge portion of the local cities' revenue. Now, it's support nearly 79% of the migratory birds in the western hemisphere. So, imagine if federal, state, and local agencies pour money into the Sea to clean up. This will attract visitors, in returns bring more revenues back to the Imperial Valley. Major win-win for everyone. By the way, US EPA declared Salton Sea to be saved due to the migratory birds congregate yearly in mass number. Without the Sea, the endangered species will become extinct. Just to let you know that :WINK:
If you can pull together a nice fund around $3000, we can do fish tissue sampling of various areas along the Salton Sea. We can grab two samples of fishes for 3 sites. The more funding you get, the more samples throughout the seasons, and the different fish sizes, we can analyze. No need for the Sea's bottom samples. We just need to focus on the Sea's fishes to test for bio-accumulation of toxins in the tissues, since they swim in it 24/7.
I can probably get a break on some testing, but need to know what kind and inquire...
...maybe have a "save the sea" tourney and raise some money
-bb
Fish tissue analysis for metals and bact-T. Each metal costs about $230 per fish tissue analysis, doing from wet, to dry weight, and then separate weight for different metals. Man, that will be some major costs. That's why some detailed fish tissue testing (per fish) for all metals and bac-T counts is as high as $7200.
So, ask for fish tissue analysis for the heavy metals (primary metals of concern) such as mercury, selenium, lead (where as zinc, copper, and iron are not needed), follow-up with arsenic and concentration of DDT. Final shot is the bac-T on the fish tissue.
It's definitely dangerous to consume these tilapia in large amounts.
Selenium is great for you in the correct dosage, however these tilapia are loaded with it.
The worms they eat are the major source of their contamination.
At any rate, this IS still our best fishery for tilapia. The sand at the beaches on the coast are just as bad. Sand absorbs alot of gnarly crap.
That's why selenium is one of the sampling analytes. Mercury should be more of a priority. Bac-T is a good indicator how how bad the Sea's floor is doing. This will also tell why the fishes have such foul odor during cutting. it's also for an indicator how we need to hand the fishes bare-handed.
can test for ecoli, salmonella, staph, o total bacteria counts locally, heavy metals would have to be sent out, can probably get a discount for either one
-bb
Last edited by blackberg; 08-04-2011 at 04:26 PM.
Bac-T is both fecal coliform and possible dangerous bacteria exist. They put a swipe from the fish tissue sample after sterilizing the fish external, slice away the internal properly, and count for all type of bacteria that exist on the petri-dish within a given 48 hours, and up to 1 week. And WHAM! knowledge of the fish tissue. I used to do this all the time in the labs.
Ate plenty of fish caught in the Salton Sea from as far back as 1960 to present and I'M STILL KICKING !!!
Ok, That explains everything.Ate plenty of fish caught in the Salton Sea from as far back as 1960 to present and I'M STILL KICKING !!!
DR
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