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Thread: Tiniest Halibut & Crabs @ Cabrillo Pier

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hometown View Post
    nice day out with the nephew but i think thats a tounge fish not a halibut look at the fan tail or maybe a fan tail sole.
    Not a tounge fish see pic at link.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonguefish

    Tonguefishes are a family, Cynoglossidae, of flatfishes.[1] They are distinguished by the presence of a long hook on the snout overhanging the mouth, and the absence of pectoral fins. Their eyes are both on the left side of their body, which also lacks a pelvic fin.[2]

    They are found in tropical and subtropical oceans, mainly in shallow waters and estuaries, though a few species found in deep sea floors, and a few in rivers.

    Some species have been observed congregating around ponds of sulphur that pool up from beneath the seafloor. Scientists are unsure of the mechanism that allows the fish to survive and even thrive in such a hostile environment.[3]

    [edit] Species
    There are 138 species in 3 genera:[1][4]

    Genus Cynoglossus
    Three-lined tongue sole, Cynoglossus abbreviatus (Gray, 1834).
    Natal tongue-fish, Cynoglossus acaudatus Gilchrist, 1906.
    Sharpnose tonguesole, Cynoglossus acutirostris Norman, 1939.
    Largescale tonguesole, Cynoglossus arel (Bloch & Schneider, 1801).
    Fourline tonguesole, Cynoglossus attenuatus (Gilchrist & Thompson, 1917).
    Fourlined tonguesole, Cynoglossus bilineatus (Lacépède, 1802).
    Southern tongue sole, Cynoglossus broadhursti Waite, 1905.
    Nigerian tonguesole, Cynoglossus browni Chabanaud, 1949.
    Ghanaian tonguesole, Cynoglossus cadenati Chabanaud, 1947.
    Canary tonguesole, Cynoglossus canariensis Steindachner, 1882.
    Sand tonguefish, Cynoglossus capensis (Kaup, 1858).
    Hooked tonguesole, Cynoglossus carpenteri Alcock, 1889.
    Bengal tongue sole, Cynoglossus cynoglossus (Hamilton, 1822).
    Roundhead toungesole, Cynoglossus dispar Day, 1877.
    Cynoglossus dollfusi (Chabanaud, 1931).
    Carrot tonguesole, Cynoglossus dubius Day, 1873.
    Durban tonguesole, Cynoglossus durbanensis Regan, 1921.
    River tonguesole, Cynoglossus feldmanni (Bleeker, 1853).
    Ripplefin tonguesole, Cynoglossus gilchristi Regan, 1920.
    Cynoglossus gracilis Günther, 1873.
    Freshwater tongue sole, Cynoglossus heterolepis Weber, 1910.
    Genko sole, Cynoglossus interruptus Günther, 1880.
    Cynoglossus itinus (Snyder, 1909).
    Red tonguesole, Cynoglossus joyneri Günther, 1878.
    Cynoglossus kapuasensis Fowler, 1905.
    Shortheaded tonguesole, Cynoglossus kopsii (Bleeker, 1851).
    Lachner's tonguesole, Cynoglossus lachneri Menon, 1977.
    Roughscale tonguesole, Cynoglossus lida (Bleeker, 1851).
    Cynoglossus lighti Norman, 1925.
    Cynoglossus lineolatus Steindachner, 1867.
    Long tongue sole, Cynoglossus lingua Hamilton, 1822.
    Cynoglossus maccullochi Norman, 1926.
    Cynoglossus macrolepidotus (Bleeker, 1851).
    Big-eyed tongue-sole, Cynoglossus macrophthalmus Norman, 1926.
    Malabar tonguesole, Cynoglossus macrostomus Norman, 1928.
    Cynoglossus maculipinnis Rendahl, 1921.
    Threeline tonguesole, Cynoglossus marleyi Regan, 1921.
    Cynoglossus melampetalus (Richardson, 1846).
    Smallscale tonguesole, Cynoglossus microlepis (Bleeker, 1851).
    Guinean tonguesole, Cynoglossus monodi Chabanaud, 1949.
    Cynoglossus monopus (Bleeker, 1849).
    Cynoglossus nigropinnatus Ochiai, 1963.
    Cynoglossus ogilbyi Norman, 1926.
    Cynoglossus oligolepis (Bleeker, 1854).
    Cynoglossus pottii Steindachner, 1902.
    Speckled tonguesole, Cynoglossus puncticeps (Richardson, 1846).
    Cynoglossus purpureomaculatus Regan, 1905.
    Cynoglossus robustus Günther, 1873.
    Cynoglossus roulei Wu, 1932.
    Cynoglossus sealarki Regan, 1908.
    Bengal tongue-sole, Cynoglossus semifasciatus Day, 1877.
    Tongue sole, Cynoglossus semilaevis Günther, 1873.
    Senegalese tonguesole, Cynoglossus senegalensis (Kaup, 1858).
    Cynoglossus sibogae Weber, 1913.
    Cynoglossus sinicus Wu, 1932.
    Cynoglossus sinusarabici (Chabanaud, 1931).
    Cynoglossus suyeni Fowler, 1934.
    Cynoglossus trigrammus Günther, 1862.
    Macau sole, Cynoglossus trulla (Cantor, 1849).
    Cynoglossus waandersii (Bleeker, 1854).
    Zanzibar tonguesole, Cynoglossus zanzibarensis Norman, 1939.
    Genus Paraplagusia
    Doublelined tonguesole, Paraplagusia bilineata (Lacépède, 1802).
    Bloch's tonguesole, Paraplagusia blochii (Bleeker, 1851).
    Paraplagusia guttata (Macleay, 1878).
    Black cow-tongue, Paraplagusia japonica (Temminck & Schlegel, 1846).
    Long-snouted tongue sole, Paraplagusia longirostris Chapleau, Renaud & Kailola, 1991.
    Dusky tongue sole, Paraplagusia sinerama Chapleau & Renaud, 1993.
    Genus Symphurus
    Caribbean tonguefish, Symphurus arawak Robins & Randall, 1965.
    Inkspot tonguefish, Symphurus atramentatus Jordan & Bollman, 1890.
    California tonguefish, Symphurus atricaudus (Jordan & Gilbert, 1880).
    Symphurus australis (Rendahl, 1922).
    Symphurus bathyspilus Krabbenhoft & Munroe, 2003.
    Kriete's tonguefish, Symphurus billykrietei Munroe, 1998.
    Chocolate tonguefish, Symphurus callopterus Munroe & Mahadeva, 1989.
    Symphurus caribbeanus Munroe, 1991.
    Chabanaud's tonguefish, Symphurus chabanaudi Mahadeva & Munroe, 1990.
    Offshore tonguefish, Symphurus civitatium Ginsburg, 1951.
    Devil's tonguefish, Symphurus diabolicus Mahadeva & Munroe, 1990.
    Spottedfin tonguefish, Symphurus diomedeanus (Goode & Bean, 1885).
    Spottedfin tonguefish, Symphurus diomedeanusElongate tonguefish, Symphurus elongatus (nil).
    Banded tongue-fish, Symphurus fasciolaris Gilbert, 1892.
    Symphurus fuscus Brauer, 1906.
    Symphurus gilesii (Alcock, 1889).
    Ginsburg's tonguefish, Symphurus ginsburgi Menezes & Benvegnú, 1976.
    Gorgonian tonguefish, Symphurus gorgonae Chabanaud, 1948.
    Symphurus hondoensis Hubbs, 1915.
    Symphurus insularis Munroe, Brito & Hernández, 2000.
    Jenyn's tonguefish, Symphurus jenynsi Evermann & Kendall, 1907.
    Symphurus kyaropterygium Menezes & Benvegnú, 1976.
    Lee's tonguefish, Symphurus leei Jordan & Bollman, 1890.
    Elongate tonguesole, Symphurus ligulatus (Cocco, 1844).
    Symphurus lubbocki Munroe, 1990.
    Symphurus luzonensis Chabanaud, 1955.
    Symphurus macrophthalmus (Norman, 1926).
    Symphurus maldivensis Chabanaud, 1955.
    Margined tonguefish, Symphurus marginatus (Goode & Bean, 1886).
    Margined tonguefish, Symphurus marginatusSymphurus marmoratus (Bleeker, 1851).
    Drab tonguefish, Symphurus melanurus Clark, 1936.
    Blackstripe tonguefish, Symphurus melasmatotheca Munroe & Nizinski, 1990.
    Smallfin tonguefish, Symphurus microlepis (Bleeker, 1851).
    Symphurus microrhynchus (Weber, 1913).
    Largescale tonguefish, Symphurus minor Ginsburg, 1951.
    Symphurus monostigmus Munroe, 2006.[5]
    Freckled tonguefish, Symphurus nebulosus (Goode & Bean, 1883).
    Freckled tonguefish, Symphurus nebulosusTonguesole, Symphurus nigrescens Rafinesque, 1810.
    Norman's tonguesole, Symphurus normani Chabanaud, 1950.
    Symphurus novemfasciatus Shen & Lin, 1984.
    Double-spot tonguesole, Symphurus ocellatus (nil).
    Symphurus oculellus Munroe, 1991.
    Spotfin tonguefish, Symphurus oligomerus Mahadeva & Munroe, 1990.
    Ocellated tonguefish, Symphurus ommaspilus Böhlke, 1961.
    Symphurus orientalis (Bleeker, 1879).
    Pygmy tonguefish, Symphurus parvus Ginsburg, 1951.
    Longtail tonguefish, Symphurus pelicanus Ginsburg, 1951.
    Deepwater tonguefish, Symphurus piger (nil).
    Deepwater tonguefish, Symphurus pigerBlackcheek tonguefish, Symphurus plagiusa (Linnaeus, 1766).
    Duskycheek tonguefish, Symphurus plagusia (Bloch & Schneider, 1801).
    Halfstriped tonguefish, Symphurus prolatinaris Munroe, Nizinski & Mahadeva, 1991.
    Northern tonguefish, Symphurus pusillus (Goode & Bean, 1885).
    Symphurus regani Weber & de Beaufort, 1929.
    Symphurus reticulatus Munroe, 1990.
    Patchtail tonguefish, Symphurus rhytisma Böhlke, 1961.
    Symphurus schultzi Chabanaud, 1955.
    Sevenband tonguesole, Symphurus septemstriatus (Alcock, 1891).
    Blotchfin tonguefish, Symphurus stigmosus Munroe, 1998.
    Blackbelly tonguesole, Symphurus strictus Gilbert, 1905.
    Symphurus tessellatus (Quoy & Gaimard, 1824).
    Symphurus thermophilus[6]
    Trewavas' tonguefish, Symphurus trewavasae Chabanaud, 1948.
    Threeband tonguesole, Symphurus trifasciatus (Alcock, 1894).
    Symphurus undatus Gilbert, 1905.
    Dark cheek tongue, Symphurus undecimplerus Munroe & Nizinski, 1990.
    Spottail tonguefish, Symphurus urospilus Ginsburg, 1951.
    Symphurus vanmelleae Chabanaud, 1952.
    Symphurus variegatus (Gilchrist, 1903).
    Mottled tonguefish, Symphurus varius Garman, 1899.
    William's tonguefish, Symphurus williamsi Jordan & Culver, 1895.
    Symphurus woodmasoni (Alcock, 1889)

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    pretty awsome my friend, good day of fishing....... never had those crab but they do look tasty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FISHSTIX View Post
    Nice report SFE, bet it was fun for your nephew.
    its not always how big the fish can get but amazing how small they can be.
    Thanks for sharing.
    So True! I love the ocean, because there are so many wonderful things to be found there.
    Quote Originally Posted by bones View Post
    Great job Eric..........I bet even Wingnut couldn't accomplish catching a 3" halibut.....LOL
    You have created a "Smallest Halibut" IGFA record.
    I would love to set up a SW aquarium and put that little butt in there.....That would be so KEWL (But Illegal).
    Good to see ya having fun out there....
    Thanks for the report!
    Wow! Thanks Bones now you've got me on Wingnuts radar. I was trying to assume a quite existence here on FNN, but now you've set the stage for the Tiny Halibut Anglers Notoriety Krew AWARDS... The (T.H.A.N.K. AWARDS)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaysuuun View Post
    Santa Fe, that is the smallest butt I've ever seen. LOL Poor guy hasn't even developed any teeth on him yet. Nice job on takin the nephew out.


    I'm thinking about setting up a SW bass tank someday.
    Thanks Jay, Teeth or no teeth, I stayed away from his mouth area. I don't ever want to get comfortable around the Halibuts mouth.

    Quote Originally Posted by flyngby View Post
    I agree with Bones!

    By far the smallest Butt I have seen posted.

    Congrats on another fun trip with the nephew!!!!!!

    Steve
    What's Up Steve! Thanks for the THANK Award Nomination. Lets get in the Bay!
    Quote Originally Posted by murrieta angler View Post
    Nice job out there with the nephew, Eric.
    Thanks for the report and pics,
    Robert
    Thanks Robert! I had a great time and my nephew really just seems to enjoy time on the water with his Uncle.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hometown View Post
    nice day out with the nephew but i think thats a tounge fish not a halibut look at the fan tail or maybe a fan tail sole.
    What's Up Hometown, not too sure, but I still think its a Halibut!
    Quote Originally Posted by BIGRED KILLA View Post
    That is one small Hali looks like you found the bigger rock crabs good eats idk about the ones inside the harbor tho. Thanks for the post BIG E.




    Bigred <:(((( <
    Thanks Big Red! It was fun trying to get those Crab to stay on the line. We never got one more than 1 foot out of the water.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wingnut View Post
    I don't know Eric... I think we have to put a tape measure to your finger to get an accurate measurement of that baby Hali. I want to hold onto my PS (personal smallest) Flattie title. Hope all is well my friend, see ya soon.
    Oh No! How did I get on your radar. I do not want SWAT to come looking for me. Remember that I have very small hands, so the fish may be even smaller than it appears LOL. See you soon!
    Quote Originally Posted by DockRat View Post
    Sand Dab pic.



    DR
    Thanks DR
    Quote Originally Posted by jumpman View Post
    pretty awsome my friend, good day of fishing....... never had those crab but they do look tasty.
    That Crab drove us to the San Pedro Fish Market for Dinner. Next time we will eat at the Crusty Crab. Thanks for the response.

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    Ports O' Call is the Bomb !!! Love going down there and checking out all the fish markets and then buying the fish and having all cooked up w/ all the vegies . Thanks for sharing Eric.

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    Sounds like a fun day on the pier!


    TD

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    Nice work SF Eric, great report. Yeah Bones has a buddy named Yuri Sputnik who fishes that spot. Maybe you might have ran in to him while you were out there he is really friendly. I agree with Home Town that little guy was not a halibut which means you got yourself a legal flatty right there. You can easily distinguish a halibut by the shape of the tail. Halibut don't have rounded tails like the fish in the picture. Halibut also have longer bodies. Not sure if it's a tongue fish, perhaps some type of sole, it doesn't look like a sand dab, and certainly not a turbot or halibut. We may never know oh well good job on the crab. Thanks for the report.

    Jerryg
    Last edited by jerryG; 04-22-2010 at 01:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troutman65 View Post
    Ports O' Call is the Bomb !!!
    Reminds me of being in Baja.
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    That is actually one of the "cabrillo trout halibut" nice catch!

    I hate those bait stealing crabs! thanks for the report...

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    I wonder what it would cost to mount that.

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    LING Bait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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