secret spot in long beach 12/07

[DockRat]

ahhvtec and duytran,hesbros,those guys i really enjoy reading there post about hoopin,(diving).but i see why nobody post's up report about lobstering,people cant just enjoy another post with out sayin something negative.give it a rest.coming from the fisherman from L.B

Less INFO is a Good Thing.

'Never Before'

In the history of this planet has there been so much easy info.

Newbie after Newbie showing success and Chest Pounding online.

KINDA LIKE THE 'GOLD RUSH'

Spoon Feeding DFG with tons of info till it was 'The Place To Go' for DFG to get info. Closed Breakwalls due to 'TOO MANY HOOPERS'

DFG sitting down reconsidering the GROWING MASS OF HOOPERS (divers too)

JUST BECAUSE WE DODGED A BULLET DEC 10th DOESN'T MEAN IT WON"T HAPPEN IN THE NEAR FUTURE,
LIKE NEXT YEAR OR THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

TOO BAD WE HAVE HAD TRYING TO FILL THIER WALLETS WITH THIS CRAZE.

CONSTANT POSTS, BOOKS, DVD'S, PULLERS, NEW STYLES OF NETS, BAIT CAGES, FLOATS, LIGHTSTICKS. HOOP NET SEMINARS ???

Advice, Pats on the Back, Best Bait, Tide, Conditions, Times of Crawls ect.

Even members on this website trying to cashing in.

I have never posted a bug report. In the 70's, 80's, 90s we would

Even built my own Custom Conicals.

Don't tell Nobody Nuttin attitude We used a telephone to talk to 'Buddies'

Not on a computor posting up info to 100s of internet buddies that you have never met. WHY ?
Not to mention 100s of 'LURKERS' that use that info to increase catch and tell there friends.

I have no probem with a ocassional vague report, or a father son report.
But when guys post up bi-weekly with constant 'LOOK AT ME' chest pounding reports
and are filling out report cards, giving away lobster to neighbors just to score points and put up more posts.
WHO NEEDS 100 PLUS LOBSTERS AS SEASON

Get over it. Luckly FNN doesn't seem to have this problem.

Don't act like DFG is not reading.


DR

[fisherman from long beach]

Less INFO is a Good Thing.

'Never Before'

In the history of this planet has there been so much easy info.

Newbie after Newbie showing success and Chest Pounding online.

KINDA LIKE THE 'GOLD RUSH'

Spoon Feeding DFG with tons of info till it was 'The Place To Go' for DFG to get info. Closed Breakwalls due to 'TOO MANY HOOPERS'

DFG sitting down reconsidering the GROWING MASS OF HOOPERS (divers too)

JUST BECAUSE WE DODGED A BULLET DEC 10th DOESN'T MEAN IT WON"T HAPPEN IN THE NEAR FUTURE,
LIKE NEXT YEAR OR THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

TOO BAD WE HAVE HAD TRYING TO FILL THIER WALLETS WITH THIS CRAZE.

CONSTANT POSTS, BOOKS, DVD'S, PULLERS, NEW STYLES OF NETS, BAIT CAGES, FLOATS, LIGHTSTICKS. HOOP NET SEMINARS ???

Advice, Pats on the Back, Best Bait, Tide, Conditions, Times of Crawls ect.

Even members on this website trying to cashing in.

I have never posted a bug report. In the 70's, 80's, 90s we would

Even built my own Custom Conicals.

Don't tell Nobody Nuttin attitude We used a telephone to talk to 'Buddies'

Not on a computor posting up info to 100s of internet buddies that you have never met. WHY ?
Not to mention 100s of 'LURKERS' that use that info to increase catch and tell there friends.

I have no probem with a ocassional vague report, or a father son report.
But when guys post up bi-weekly with constant 'LOOK AT ME' chest pounding reports
and are filling out report cards, giving away lobster to neighbors just to score points and put up more posts.
WHO NEEDS 100 PLUS LOBSTERS AS SEASON

Get over it. Luckly FNN doesn't seem to have this problem.

Don't act like DFG is not reading.


DR

im not saying showing what you catch is wrong to an extent.catching more then you and your family or friends need,is somewhat a prob.but i dont see that,some guy caught a couple and he got bashed for it.this is a fishing network is'nt it?i dont like posting up what i caught because i dont take bashing lightly.especialy from someone that dont even know me.

[ahhvtec]

Point well taken Dock...

[WormFisher]

Nice job Captain, like usual.

[basscat]

I KNOW from a very trusted reliable source, that you can post ALL you want, show them the pics of ALL your catches, it does NOT matter to the DFG's and yes they do watch these threads, but here's my point:

DFG's out there somewhere DAILY and watching the activity and 95% of the bug hunters have never ever heard of the fishing websites and all these postings. It's only the obvious that if anyone were to act like the DFG, these bug catchers are not looking at some internet and doing their fishing, okay maybe 94% don't even read up for information.

The talks about closing up or reducing the current regs and all that is only due to the number of new buggers out there and the population growth of CA (covers all spectrum of the rainbow) and the fun and excitement of catching your own $7 to $12 lb. bug, nothing more, nothing less.

So hoop away until they change the regs, it's truly no fault of anyone reports or pictures.

If one can control our stateline all "east and north of CA", then maybe the winter birds will stop from making CA their new home, so it's not what the general people think about the southern borders, nope, it's the folks from the "other side" (WA, NV, AZ, IL, NY, etc. you get the picture).

Believe me, my source is as close to the horse's mouth as they come.

[ahhvtec]

Um ok if you say so, this is from "my" secret spot last night. The scuba tank is a full size AL80.

[fisherman from long beach]

wtf duc.your gonna get lobster poisoning!lol.

[DockRat]

I KNOW from a very trusted reliable source, that you can post ALL you want, show them the pics of ALL your catches, it does NOT matter to the DFG's and yes they do watch these threads, but here's my point:

DFG's out there somewhere DAILY and watching the activity and 95% of the bug hunters have never ever heard of the fishing websites and all these postings. It's only the obvious that if anyone were to act like the DFG, these bug catchers are not looking at some internet and doing their fishing, okay maybe 94% don't even read up for information.


Believe me, my source is as close to the horse's mouth as they come.

I'm call BS. 'YOUR WAAAAY OFF BASE'

DFG's out there somewhere DAILY and watching the activity and 95% of the bug hunters have never ever heard of the fishing websites and all these postings.

DFG Watching 95%

More like they see 5%

You say it is from field observations.

I'm down in the Port 7 days a week and if you think DFG is cruising around and checking hoopers/divers ? Yah Right.

My boat is in Pedro going on 4 years and I have been checked once.

Drive home around PV daily and NEVER see them, live on the ocean, work on the ocean and drive home on the ocean.
1/8 of a mile from the Pacific Ocean 24/7/365

They do make a showing during the first week or two of Lobster season.

I am still pissed off over the Lobster Card. Why do we have it?

Why is there a 'Gear Code' Flat or Conical on the Lobster Card ?

Can you explain that?

Maybe due to the fact that guys had been 'showing off' Post after Post and debating which net is best. 'Conical nets have better success'

32" flat, 36" flat, Promar Eclipse, Danielson, new Promar Danielson copy,
Blah Blah Blah Blah

BloodyD!cks was out of control a couple years ago.

Ventura Breakwall closed to hoopers. Why ?
TOO MUCH INFO. TOO MANY HOOPERS. TOO DANGEROUS.

Lobster Wars ! Hoopers vs Divers, Huh.
Fishing Fight Talk on BD. Throwing Iron at Divers, talk of tossing seal bombs.
Guys circling around pulling nets while some diver dude is surfacing.
1/4" Neopreme is not Head Protection from a propellor.
Bouy Lines around Propellors.
Boats going on the jetty.

More Problems, Accidents, Deaths = More Regulations

Just feeding the fire for more REGULATIONS coming.

Do you think DFG is out checking ? Not much.

They could be writing tickets daily at the Queen Mary Public fishing area.
Poacher Safe Haven, and yes fishing licenses are required there.
Go on the weekend and you will see ALOT of people fishing illegal.
I thought the needed $ Revenue $ ???
They are required forced furlough days off due to lack of funding.


Why do they hang out at Davies Launch with the motor running

Lobster Poacher Snaggers on Redondo Pier almost every night SNAGGING LOBSTERS !!! Wheres Waldo ?
Too long of a walk from the Parking Structure

I have called DFG on Poachers and guess what ? No Show.

The last 5 or so years Hoopnetting has gotton huge.
It is very clear that it was Internet and Ego and $$$ driven by some and many followed.


They don't walk the piers, maybe on a rare occassion. Do you think they ever walk the PV trails ? No.

I saw a guy in a reserve in LB fill a bucket of clams.
Guys out Hooping the Oil Islands in LB. That is a 911 Security Violation.
All vessels must mantain 100 yards from any Container, Cruise, Oil Terminal
Guys Hooping Illegal in LB and nobody cares.
DR

[thomasfishing]

Hey Dockrat, thank you for putting this all into perspective. You have many valid points. Consider this will be my last post ever. I ll keep all info to myself.

[fisherman from long beach]

Hey Dockrat, thank you for putting this all into perspective. You have many valid points. Consider this will be my last post ever. I ll keep all info to myself.

that kinda sucks,i enjoy reading some post's people put up.maybe the editor of this site could erase some post after a week or so.but keep the post coming.you know a couple of pics of 2-3 bugs does'nt mean were raping the bugs.if nobody post up there goes some motivation for people to go out.this site has great threads and buggin is one of them.