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Thread: Feds to 60 Million American Anglers: We don't need you

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidE View Post
    1. Fixing this mess that is the result from the previous administration is no joke. Stop laughing. If your not part of the solution ....



    2. How about you prove he is


    3. If the shoe fits ....



    4. Can't be accomplished while the opposition is piss and vinegar.

    1. Fixing the mess? More like making it worse.
    2. That didn't answer the question.
    3. It doesn't.
    4. Wow really? Real mature.

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    Hey, I have to agree with Geordy on this one. There is plenty of high priority stuff to attack with all the stuff that is going on these days. Bringing race or other stuff in only lets other know our priorities are upside down. If we could get together and agree that it important to us that fishing remain legal and not insanely difficult to comply with all the stupid regs that people we pay come up with...now we have something we can make progress on. Lets focus on policy issues so our kids can have fun...after they figure out how to pay for the health care of a dead generation.

    The Shimano dude is just giving us fair warning...if we continue to create an unfavorable environment for doing business...we get offered less in the end.

    After watching the ATF illegally regulate hobby rocketry for 9 years...I and many others had to give up any business in the field. Many of us didn't do it for money...it's not that big of a business...but we came up with cool inventions and other's wanted access to them. We offered our wares for a reasonable price...and most of us lost money. When the feds came in and started fooling with peoples heads...they lost intrest and went back to their Xboxes indoors where the feds want them. Dad just didn't want the hassels of studying for a test...paying $90...driving to LA...being interrogated...for a Low Explosives User Permit. Oh, no, that isn't enough...dad has to take another test and pay another fee and be interrogated again to get a California Pyrotechnicians License Class 3...just so he and junior can go out to a desert lakebed and launch a few little rockets...after getting written permission from the land owner and notifying the local fire marshal. You don't even want to know about the explosives magazine gig. Did I forget the whole part about obtaining a FAA waiver just in case the rocket goes up to a certain altitude?

    Now...translate all that into you and junior going out on your next fishing trip. Is that how we want this to be? We have to stop bad policy. Period.
    I can see the stamps for every species and annual limits in my nightmares in broad daylight.

    Thanks for entertaining my insanity for a moment.

    MRA
    Last edited by Mojave River Angler; 10-27-2009 at 06:17 PM. Reason: Spelling: Hey, some people care.

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    From "DavidE"

    Fixing this mess that is the result from the previous administration is no joke. Stop laughing. If your not part of the solution .... Sorry, but I am the part of the solution.. All americans against gun control and socialism are your only hope for true freedom at this point.



    How about you prove he is --Oh? How about a clip of him saying "I believe its good to spread the wealth around"? Go to youtube and type "obama spreading wealth around"


    If the shoe fits .... The Socialist shoe NEVER fits, its always gonna be the size of the last person to wear it..



    Can't be accomplished while the opposition is piss and vinegar. Yeah, I'm piss and vinegar for following the constitution.. great. Another person that can only respond in *****-hominem. You didnt even provide any form of real arguement.. Go back to slumberland, go back to believing everything the corporate media says, and be the happy slave that you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokehound View Post
    From "DavidE"

    Fixing this mess that is the result from the previous administration is no joke. Stop laughing. If your not part of the solution .... Sorry, but I am the part of the solution.. All americans against gun control and socialism are your only hope for true freedom at this point.



    How about you prove he is --Oh? How about a clip of him saying "I believe its good to spread the wealth around"? Go to youtube and type "obama spreading wealth around"


    If the shoe fits .... The Socialist shoe NEVER fits, its always gonna be the size of the last person to wear it..



    Can't be accomplished while the opposition is piss and vinegar. Yeah, I'm piss and vinegar for following the constitution.. great. Another person that can only respond in *****-hominem. You didnt even provide any form of real arguement.. Go back to slumberland, go back to believing everything the corporate media says, and be the happy slave that you are.
    Atta boy! Get em smokey! The truth hurts. It feels like the country is becoming more divided every day this knuckle head is in power. I await the second civil war!

    But back on topic, what is the reasoning for closing down public fishing? Isnt it the netters and commercial fisherman that are decemating the fish population. Most sport fisherman only keep stocked fish, so how is that impacting the environment. It makes me nuts when these liberals want to make a name for themselves so they try to inforce stupid pointless rules.

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    [QUOTE=duce;402126]Atta boy! Get em smokey! The truth hurts. It feels like the country is becoming more divided every day this knuckle head is in power. I await the second civil war!

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    How do you have a civil war when you cant buy ammo anywhere ?

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    [QUOTE=Cangler;402157]
    Quote Originally Posted by duce View Post
    Atta boy! Get em smokey! The truth hurts. It feels like the country is becoming more divided every day this knuckle head is in power. I await the second civil war!

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    How do you have a civil war when you cant buy ammo anywhere ?

    6 oz/ 7/0 jigs come in handy!

    Goerdy...stick to showing off your skunk infested carrot stick and your disposable outboards!

    Don't get me wrong I love Shimano but before everyone starts farting off comments in reaction to Shimano's public plead not to hurt their income, have you guys read the Memorandum sent by the White house? http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...an_mem_rel.pdf Excuse the leaders of our country for giving a crap about where we live...huh! Dam them!

    Have you guys read the interim report sent back by the assigned "Interagency Ocean Policy Task Force" http://www.whitehouse.gov/assets/doc...rce_FINAL2.pdf. If you want to be heard, send a letter.

    All the comments I have read online are geared towards the Shimano corp statement and nothing about the original memorandum or the interim report, that is still ongoing and waiting for feedback from "all stake holders."

    No one knows whether you need your back scratched unless you ask for it.

    Seriously...you really think the government would close down recreational activities like fishing? Don't you think the commercial fishing would be about 30 steps before the recreational fisherman?

    What's up with the hate filled bubbles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cangler View Post


    6 oz/ 7/0 jigs come in handy!

    Goerdy...stick to showing off your skunk infested carrot stick and your disposable outboards!

    Don't get me wrong I love Shimano but before everyone starts farting off comments in reaction to Shimano's public plead not to hurt their income, have you guys read the Memorandum sent by the White house? http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...an_mem_rel.pdf Excuse the leaders of our country for giving a crap about where we live...huh! Dam them!

    Have you guys read the interim report sent back by the assigned "Interagency Ocean Policy Task Force" http://www.whitehouse.gov/assets/doc...rce_FINAL2.pdf. If you want to be heard, send a letter.

    All the comments I have read online are geared towards the Shimano corp statement and nothing about the original memorandum or the interim report, that is still ongoing and waiting for feedback from "all stake holders."

    No one knows whether you need your back scratched unless you ask for it.

    Seriously...you really think the government would close down recreational activities like fishing? Don't you think the commercial fishing would be about 30 steps before the recreational fisherman?

    What's up with the hate filled bubbles?
    They dont read any of that, they just see Obama and all of their bitterness and hatred come pouring out. Only a Communist or Socialist would try to help the environment.

    I do have a question though for all of you modern day confederates. When is your little revolution/civil war/race war going down, I want to be sure I put aside an hour or two to watch that on the news. Its a great cause you will be fighting for, be sure to go directly to the front lines and fight to the death.
    Last edited by RUSSO; 10-28-2009 at 01:40 PM.

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    Hiro: Well said....(except the boat and carrot stix thing n000b).... Everyone, don't hate obama for being president.... don't hate him for being a "minority"....wtf? All you guys keep that racist crap to yourselves. I'm really just pissed that the government would allow that.... I also read somewhere else that the task force wants to close down coast to coast and lake fishing very soon.... But I ask myself self, how the heck are they gonna fund all of that? how is even the mlpa gonna fund it? I am in total confusion,,,lol,,, But really, If anyone mentions anything about racism etc, I'll get this shut down.
    Last edited by GeordyBass; 10-29-2009 at 11:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cangler View Post
    How do you have a civil war when you cant buy ammo anywhere ?
    Wars are fought in the courts now. Didn't you know?

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    [QUOTE=RUSSO;402216]
    Quote Originally Posted by breeze71 View Post

    They dont read any of that, they just see Obama and all of their bitterness and hatred come pouring out. Only a Communist or Socialist would try to help the environment.

    I do have a question though for all of you modern day confederates. When is your little revolution/civil war/race war going down, I want to be sure I put aside an hour or two to watch that on the news. Its a great cause you will be fighting for, be sure to go directly to the front lines and fight to the death.
    Man you are brainwashed... There's no hope for you, Guilliani.

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