Most potheads are too lazy and would rather spend the $100 on the actual weed than give it to a doctor and then have to shell out another $100 at the club.News Flash: In California IT IS LEGAL (all it takes to get you medical marijuan card is a hundred bucks and acess to Google Maps)
Once in a while you'll come across the "Club Members" though. Half the time they're the ones selling it. Basically Medi-weed from the government. So the man is making money off the weed, they can't legalize it!
IMHO, Once you leagalize and TAX the krap out of something then it sure looses its attractiveness real quick.....Look at cigs for example, peeps have been coming into my clinic asking or help getting off the cigs cuz on their GR income of 200 bucks a month, they can't eat and smoke too....Leagalize it and get the dealers off the streets.....except for meth, I would never legalize it, it is real poison, worse than heroin since it is not a pure substance, made in cookpots in someones house and loaded with krap 10x's the worst stuff out there.
I agree. OFG for pres..Originally Posted by olfishergal
Meth does seriously bad things to people. Not just physically. Mentally as well. One of the worst things on the planet to be addicted to smoking or snorting that stuff. Not to mention all the fake crap it's cut with to make it look like it's worth more than it is..
Last edited by tacklejunkie; 04-20-2009 at 07:39 PM.
True. "All drugs" isnt necessarily all inclusive. Meth, black tar heroin, certain forms of coke, should be illegal, simply because they are deadly toxins even in miniscule amounts.
Founding Fathers
The founding fathers of this country got it right when they said in the declaration of independence that
"...that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness...."
Unfortunatly some people dont believe that there is a right to Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
Making and keeping drugs illegal goes against the very foundation of our great country. People who support the resitriction of Liberty and are against people's pursuits of happiness are UNAMERICAN.
Those people should go to China where their government controls every aspect of their lives.
LET FREEDOM RING!!
Easy. The point here is too make a opinionated statement of logic. No insults or as hominem argument plzThose people should go to China where their government controls every aspect of their lives.
LET FREEDOM RING!!
I would have to say keep drug illegal. If you look at crime stats it become obvious that drugs and violent crime go hand in hand. We can rationally assume that some of the trafficing crime would decrease if drugs are legalized but the crimes committed by junkies trying to fund a habit would remain. It is the crime committed by the end users that lands most drug connected criminals in jail.
My 2 cents
Drugs in general should not be legalized...now saying that what i mean is anything manufactured by man...heroin coke speed pcp ecstacy ketamine etc.
Ive found that things that grow naturally from this earth are not all that bad, we all drink coffee (well most of us).
Even though i love to drink a beer on occasion (like with breakfast) Beer is 100x's worse than pot yet its legal.
I have never witnesed a guy smoke 20 bucks worth of weed and want to fight, drive, or beat his wife and fight anyone who challenges him.
Potheads are not all that bad or a drain on society, yeah you might get lazy and just wanna stay home and eat 10 bowls of captn crunch while watching looney toons. Is that really all that bad?
Potheads are usually just laid back cool cats who want nothing more than to be just left alone with there high.
Weve all read the pros and cons of what would happen if pot was legalized. No more debt is the biggest pro here. Like i said potheads get lazy, going to a clinic where you know you can score great pot is the best option a pothead could have and would eliminate going to a "dealer" who is not going to pay tax on his earnings.
We live in a new age where we are a little more educated and understand certain things are not as bad as the propoganda films released by the nixon administration showed us, just like City dad quoted.
Last edited by Captain Boracho; 04-21-2009 at 12:03 AM.
Leg
Many good points have been brought up however a major issue is whether changing the laws will increase or decrease consumption. When prohibition was removed alcohol consumption did NOT decrease. Just because something has a deviant or counter culture stigma removed from it doesn't mean people will use it less. YOU OBVIOUSLY are VERY conservative and SHELTERED if you think legalizing drugs will really lower their consumption. Studies and comparisons between addicts in Amsterdam and London show no improvement in the numbers of heroine addicts. The people who claim that consumption will go down because of legalization NEVER GOT HIGH! People do drugs for many reasons, but most of all IT FEELS GOOD! Now we need to consider that PRESCRIPTION Drugs are the MOST ABUSED substances ON EARTH! More people die from prescription drug use than ALL NARCOTICS combined! Kids LOVE prescription drugs because they have the EASIEST access. Also as far as getting rid of the criminal element. Please criminals WILL ALWAYS engage in CONTRABAND. It is not the contraband itself that causes criminals to commit crimes. It is the high cash rewards that inspire people to engage in criminal activity. So you legalize something that was illegal the criminals just sell another illegal item that is in demand. Someone also mentioned the junkies. I hate to tell you this but it is not the junkies I am worried about, but the organized criminals that facilitate the distribution of illegal substances. As far as our future with Mexico, yeah that has been planned under "The North American Union" it will implement a new currency called the "Amerigo" which will replace the Canadian, US and Mexican currencies. Someone's claim that we are linked with Mexico is very vague. We are more connected with China THAN MEXICO! The mass amounts of Mexicans flooding into the Southwest, FORMERLY MEXICO. Prove that you cannot ignore mass numbers of people. This only highlights the fact that you cannot ignore the MOST POPULOUS NATION on earth, China. Oh and someone stated China controls everything. That is completely IGNORANT! China has a one child policy and STILL they have FAILED to fully implement this policy. The mainland Chinese government may want to control every facet of society. However it cannot fully implement that mandate. As far as the pharmacy and the junkie thing. Pharmacies DO NOT HAVE DOSAGE guidelines for patients GETTING HIGH! So your idea of regulating narcotic dosages for people getting high is NAIVE. You may have set dosage limits for death, however this does not fall into the scope of regulating narcotics for REAL consumption. Also kids are more sophisticated than ever. I probably talk to and see more youth than most. My experience has showed me that the youngsters are getting smarter and starting to network and conduct business at a much earlier age. They have networks for trading porn, homework, drugs and stolen property. Dealers are no longer just manipulated by OLDER thugs. THEY ARE THINKING OF THE CRIMINAL IDEAS THEMSELVES! I once met a 9th grader who had 35 dealers under him at 6 high schools. I asked him when he set up his network and he said third grade! Legalizing drugs is like regulating guns. You can put all the regulations you want on guns. THE CRIMINALS WILL NEVER follow them. Just like putting regulations on drugs. The CRIMINALS never follow them. We regulate prescription drugs. However prescription drugs are MORE ABUSED and cause more DEATHS than NARCOTICS! Oh and someone brought up morals and religion. PLEASE DO NOT LET RELIGION REGULATE MORALS! The Christian Bible CLEARLY explains many events where GOD ORDERS THE EXTERMINATION OF PEOPLE! So do not let religion regulate morals. LAWS ARE NEEDED FOR THAT. For example NO CHRISTIAN I know FOLLOWS THE BIBLE and stops growing and harvesting produce every seventh year. In Israel they are much more FAITHFUL and still practice either selling their land for the term of 1 year every seven years or importing foreign soil to grow crops on top of and not in Israeli land. We also have not stopped rape and murder. We have been fighting these evils since the beginning of man. Just because we have not stopped it doesn't mean we should make rape and murder legal. As for Marijuana. Most people do not know that it is FROM CHINA. It is the first form of medicine, food, clothing and fuel. The first bible was printed out of hemp fibers. It can also make plastics, cleaner fuel and is a renewable source of fibers. It was made illegal because of harsh anti-Chicano hysteria. Now the reason marijuana is so readily used is because the gov lies and spreads FALSE propaganda on it. People don't believe it smoke some and don't get the BS harmful effects the gov claims. IN FACT EVERY CREDIBLE MEDICAL STUDY ever done on Marijuana in the US has concluded that it is not as harmful as alcohol and should be decriminalized. THERE ARE ZERO DEATHS from using MARIJUANA. Meth and other harmful drugs cannot make the SAME SAFE CLAIMS. But let us use the police union in southern california as an example. I was listening to KFWB on the radio. The policeman's union was talking about the fact that THEY WILL FIRE METH USERS. Officer's found using Cocaine and Marijuana WILL NOT BE FIRED! There may be penalties for them and what not, but using those drugs WILL NOT BE GROUNDS TO FIRE THEM. Are there any officers that would like to comment on this news story??? In any case another claim that drug use has DECREASED is again NAIVE! How can anyone compile objective and accurate statistics on CONTRABAND? How do you count what you do not know of??? So in the end let us add one more Chinese plant to the pantheon of agricultural products that have benefited the world and human civilization. Over half of all plants that benefit human civilization came from China. No matter how you feel about it. Marijuana has been one of the most important plants for human civilization. It has great potential as a renewable source of food, energy, clothing and oxygen production. Other hard drugs like METH should NEVER BE LEGAL! It is the WORST JAPANESE INVENTION OF ALL TIME. Stupid ******* A. Ogata.
where did this post come from haha... i dont think all drugs should be legal, things that are man made or chemically altured should be illegal. like needle drugs and nose drugs.. i for one think pot should be legal but taxed so uncle sam makes his dollar.. i mean pot is some what legal with a medical card but thats only state law, the feds can still bust you. now if the feds were smart they would figure out that they can make a lot of money WHAT OUR COUNTRY NEEDS RIGHT NOW..one or 2 medical stores per city and garenteed enough money would be made to beautifiy the city and what ever other needs...not counting the 150$ annual fee for a card...im all for it! pass the peace pipe and lets go fish.......unlike them bank robbin crack heads
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