End of a nation

[smalweld]

I have been to local fast food joint three times and have gotten the order right once. Sucks when you have to be bilingual just to order a friggin hamburger with extra onions and no pickles!!!!. Also the forgot the salad both times!! Went back today and the lady tried charging me 16 bucks for two friggin cheeseburgers that were 4.99 each?? Wont be back to that establisment again.

For the people that tell me that the illegals do not take away from us. Lets see they drive a vehicle in the state, state law says you must have insurance.. I have been rear ended before and guess who paid for those repairs?? Now I HAVE to spend extra money each year for uninsured coverage so i don't get screwed again by them. Yup send em back and please do it soon or we will all be brought down by them.

[joe man]

I have been to local fast food joint three times and have gotten the order right once. Sucks when you have to be bilingual just to order a friggin hamburger with extra onions and no pickles!!!!. Also the forgot the salad both times!! Went back today and the lady tried charging me 16 bucks for two friggin cheeseburgers that were 4.99 each?? Wont be back to that establisment again.

For the people that tell me that the illegals do not take away from us. Lets see they drive a vehicle in the state, state law says you must have insurance.. I have been rear ended before and guess who paid for those repairs?? Now I HAVE to spend extra money each year for uninsured coverage so i don't get screwed again by them. Yup send em back and please do it soon or we will all be brought down by them.

I agree 100% but I also understand why many come here, and put in the same position I would do the same thing. It is for this reason that the answer to the problem lies in making it so the grass is not greener here. Think about it, if you had kids and wanted to provide for them I bet you would cross the border too. I do not blame the illegals so much as I blame the politicians for allowing it to go on unobstructed. The illegals do not have any fear of negative consiquences when our elected jackasses do anything they can to keep the illegals happy.

[Nessie Hunter]

Im sure its clear to every one 'why' they come..
But it took a lot of hard work from a lot of LEGAL immigrants to get this country where it is....
My grandparents on my Dads side were immigrants..
They worked hard a saved every penny they could & invested in Real Estate.
They put 2 kids through college and did well.....
I have no beef with immigrants at all...

But it doesnt work to have 50% of a population TAKING from the other 50% and giving nothing back, taxes or S S etc etc.. Then sending a good piece of the cash to another country to stimulate THAT economy, not the one where they get the Money to begin with, along with a couple of dozen social give aways.......

You will see... It will stop, the pot is running dry,, Fast!!!!..



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[City Dad]

Once again the anointed among us have illuminated for me the dark and twisting path to Truth with the righteous torch of the word of God (as dictated by a doctor no less!)

I am always grateful for the benevolent tutelage of those more learned than I and am greatly inspired by the courage with which they decry the misdeeds of those at the helm of our crumbling nation. The stench of the bloated corps of a country once called "America," so vile and putrid from rot of corruption and greed devouring it from the inside, is an abomination to my nostrils up with which I shall no longer put!!! (Notice the correct use of the ENGLISH language here; I have not ended the sentence in a preposition, but rather with a verb – the way all of we Americans talk, right?)

It is there for that I take up the cause for which so many have sacrificed. I will never again sit back and demand something for doing nothing. In American terms, I'm saying ‘**** the politicians.’ I'm taking this bull by the horns and doing something about the situation myself! Who, Real Americans, will stand with me?

Let us not deliver ourselves into the hands of our enemy! Let us not put food upon his table nor render unto him aid and comfort. Let us scorn and cast off that which is the fruit of his labors! Let us pass by his trinkets and baubles thereby staunching the flow of revenue into his filthy coffers!

For the illegals I will translate the above call to action:

“Let’s us Americans boycott everything made in part or whole by illegal aliens! I mean, we demand others do for themselves – why wouldn’t we take action on our own behalf instead of just sitting back and b*tching about what everyone else is doing or not doing? C’mon, where my YANKEE CAN-DO-ODLE DANDIES at?

“I, for one, have sworn off all vegetables. I will no longer use laminated glass (trust me, it’s all made by guys without papers) and will shatter any piece of it I encounter. I will refuse to wear any type of man-made clothing. I will never again go to any home of a person who employs a gardener. I have cancelled all of my subscriptions to newspapers.

“IT IS MY NOT-AT-ALL-HUMBLE OPINION THAT ANYONE WHO IS PURCHASING ANY OF THE PRODUCTS OR SERVICES I HAVE MENTIONED IS PART OF THE PROBLEM AND THEREFORE A CRIMINAL AND THEREFORE A TRAITOR AND THEREFORE ALSO AN ILLEGAL ALIEN… OR GAY.”

And another thing that ****** me off – In driving around Van Nuys and Panorama City, I’ve notice that a lot of these illegal aliens think it’s funny to sneak into our country and destroy it from within while wearing a Sadam Husien mustache. That reeeeeally gets my goat. I say we form up our own militia – we could call ourselves the “Barbers of Babylon”… or maybe the “Apostle Posse” and we start hunting down these jokers and shaving them at the border. Who’s with me on that?!?!?!

[ghetto dad]

Once again the anointed among us have illuminated for me the dark and twisting path to Truth with the righteous torch of the word of God (as dictated by a doctor no less!)

I am always grateful for the benevolent tutelage of those more learned than I and am greatly inspired by the courage with which they decry the misdeeds of those at the helm of our crumbling nation. The stench of the bloated corps of a country once called "America," so vile and putrid from rot of corruption and greed devouring it from the inside, is an abomination to my nostrils up with which I shall no longer put!!! (Notice the correct use of the ENGLISH language here; I have not ended the sentence in a preposition, but rather with a verb – the way all of we Americans talk, right?)

It is there for that I take up the cause for which so many have sacrificed. I will never again sit back and demand something for doing nothing. In American terms, I'm saying ‘**** the politicians.’ I'm taking this bull by the horns and doing something about the situation myself! Who, Real Americans, will stand with me?

Let us not deliver ourselves into the hands of our enemy! Let us not put food upon his table nor render unto him aid and comfort. Let us scorn and cast off that which is the fruit of his labors! Let us pass by his trinkets and baubles thereby staunching the flow of revenue into his filthy coffers!

For the illegals I will translate the above call to action:

“Let’s us Americans boycott everything made in part or whole by illegal aliens! I mean, we demand others do for themselves – why wouldn’t we take action on our own behalf instead of just sitting back and b*tching about what everyone else is doing or not doing? C’mon, where my YANKEE CAN-DO-ODLE DANDIES at?

“I, for one, have sworn off all vegetables. I will no longer use laminated glass (trust me, it’s all made by guys without papers) and will shatter any piece of it I encounter. I will refuse to wear any type of man-made clothing. I will never again go to any home of a person who employs a gardener. I have cancelled all of my subscriptions to newspapers.

“IT IS MY NOT-AT-ALL-HUMBLE OPINION THAT ANYONE WHO IS PURCHASING ANY OF THE PRODUCTS OR SERVICES I HAVE MENTIONED IS PART OF THE PROBLEM AND THEREFORE A CRIMINAL AND THEREFORE A TRAITOR AND THEREFORE ALSO AN ILLEGAL ALIEN… OR GAY.”

And another thing that ****** me off – In driving around Van Nuys and Panorama City, I’ve notice that a lot of these illegal aliens think it’s funny to sneak into our country and destroy it from within while wearing a Sadam Husien mustache. That reeeeeally gets my goat. I say we form up our own militia – we could call ourselves the “Barbers of Babylon”… or maybe the “Apostle Posse” and we start hunting down these jokers and shaving them at the border. Who’s with me on that?!?!?!

Nice CD, really nice....i especially loved your reason for editing...

GD

[PUDD MASTER BAITER]

I guess every one forgets what this country was based on ,and how it got started. Who built the railroads ,it wasnt my race.who made california what it is today my race did. Id like to see any member of any race ,trace there citizenship of being an american born, without there ancistors first taking all the dirty jobs ,that no one wanted to do. Most illegals are here to better them selves ,and there familys lives.thank the wealthy who thru greed wont pay fair wages for our legal citizens. Why dont we make the people ,on welfare who are just plain lazy, earn our hard earned dollars. When i was young my father took me to the old nieghborhood, where he grew up, and showed me the familys ,that have 2 or now 3 generations of being on welfare.every body in our nation at some stared some where with past generrations. Labeling all immigrents as leechs on our socity is ridicous. I got an idea .lets just wait in 4 yrs, and vote jeb bush into office im sure he will fix things up.god bless and peace out ...mike the chicano pmb.....

[City Dad]

I guess every one forgets what this country was based on ,and how it got started. Who built the railroads ,it wasnt my race.who made california what it is today my race did. Id like to see any member of any race ,trace there citizenship of being an american born, without there ancistors first taking all the dirty jobs ,that no one wanted to do. Most illegals are here to better them selves ,and there familys lives.thank the wealthy who thru greed wont pay fair wages for our legal citizens. Why dont we make the people ,on welfare who are just plain lazy, earn our hard earned dollars. When i was young my father took me to the old nieghborhood, where he grew up, and showed me the familys ,that have 2 or now 3 generations of being on welfare.every body in our nation at some stared some where with past generrations. Labeling all immigrents as leechs on our socity is ridicous. I got an idea .lets just wait in 4 yrs, and vote jeb bush into office im sure he will fix things up.god bless and peace out ...mike the chicano pmb.....

yeah, pmg... you've stated very clearly what I was trying to get at via (very feeble) sarcasm...

my view is this: I am agnostic, so I can't claim to know the mind of "God," but I have a strong hunch that he, she, it or them probably don't give a rat's puckered a*s about how the Central and South Americans are cramping the North Americans' style.

I'd be very curious to see any kind of statistics which support any position on illegal immigration... because so far I've seen none.

What I do know is that in this forum, like our country, there are allways going to be individuals who need to wag their fingers at other folks... but these hall-monitors-for-life need to understand that, as PMB so succintly stated, they each sit on a throne of hypocracy if they in any way indulgent in the table of plenty our civilization has placed before us, ie. If you are consuming consumables, you are part the aleged "problem" and you should probably put that finder back where it was before you logged on...

[sansou]

I blame Obama for everything.


This will be my default response for the next 4 years. At this time, I will be placing my finger back in my nose.

[City Dad]

I blame Obama for everything.


This will be my default response for the next 4 years. At this time, I will be placing my finger back in my nose.

Aha! I have been seeking out an arch nemesis... and now I have found him in the Barrister Sansou!

I will daub myself liberally in patchouli oil don, my hemp fiber shorts and Birkenstocks and tilt at thee my worthy opponent! The game is afoot!!! Tally Ho!

[Nessie Hunter]

yeah, pmg... you've stated very clearly what I was trying to get at via (very feeble) sarcasm...

my view is this: I am agnostic, so I can't claim to know the mind of "God," but I have a strong hunch that he, she, it or them probably don't give a rat's puckered a*s about how the Central and South Americans are cramping the North Americans' style.

I'd be very curious to see any kind of statistics which support any position on illegal immigration... because so far I've seen none.

What I do know is that in this forum, like our country, there are allways going to be individuals who need to wag their fingers at other folks... but these hall-monitors-for-life need to understand that, as PMB so succintly stated, they each sit on a throne of hypocracy if they in any way indulgent in the table of plenty our civilization has placed before us, ie. If you are consuming consumables, you are part the aleged "problem" and you should probably put that finder back where it was before you logged on...

The statistics abound. Deep, thick and from a lot of sources, some violent and some educated.. Google...

http://tinyurl.com/8b8st

llegal aliens in the United States

Our illegal immigration counters are based on an estimated twenty million illegal aliens having been present in our nation as of January 1, **2004**.


You could easily double that to 40 million by 2009...

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http://www.usillegalaliens.com/

Welcome To The Dark Side Of Illegal Immigration

Most Americans are against illegal immigration, but I feel that the majority just don't know the dire situation that our country is in and the damage that illegal aliens are doing to the United States.
From the costs of education to traffic congestion to the impact of having a bilingual society, you'll find all of the facts here.
Begin with A Foreward From P.F. Wagner

A few interesting notes from the article:

• The lives of 12 U.S. citizens would be saved who otherwise would die a violent death at the hands of murderous illegal aliens EACH DAY!!.
• Another 13 Americans would survive who are otherwise killed EACH DAY by uninsured drunk driving illegals.
• There would be no one to smuggle across our southern border the heroin, marijuana, cocaine, and methamphetamines, which plague the United States, reducing the U.S. supply of methamphetamines that day, by 80%.
• Our hospital emergency rooms would not be flooded with everything from gunshot wounds, to anchor babies, to imported diseases, to hangnails, giving American citizens the day off from standing in line behind illegals.
• Eight American children would not suffer the horror as victims of sex crimes EACH DAY.

Are Congressman King's comments baseless rhetoric, hateful speech, or actual facts? The MSM (mainstream media) and proponents of illegal aliens consistently bombard us with reports of an individual illegal alien that has done what most legal immigrants do: work hard and succeed. However, what they rarely tell us about are any of the negative aspects of illegal immigration. This report will detail some of the dark, negative aspects of the impact of illegal aliens that you might not be aware of.
Let's start with a broad summary on how illegal immigration is or can affect you personally. Here are just some of the negative side affects of illegal immigration:

• easy conduit for terrorists entering the USA
• massive escalation in crime
• surge in foreign national prisoners to support for years
• increases Balkanization of US
• increases multiculturalism/segregation/divisiveness instead of the American melting pot
• increases desire for Aztlan (reclaiming SW states for Mexico)
• increasing number of traffic accidents
• main contributor to surging US population
• dramatic impact on society and infrastructure, including education
• destruction of fragile ecosystems in American SW
• main cause of emergency rooms and hospitals closing as well as service cut backs
• introduction of third world diseases
• increased welfare costs
• massive costs to society – over and above contributions

In any case, the author of this report wants to make it perfectly clear: very few Americans are against a reasonable amount of legal immigration, regardless of race, nationality or ethnicity, but most Americans are against any amount of illegal immigration, regardless of race, nationality or ethnicity.
It is further to be noted that the illegal aliens are not just a "Mexican" or "Hispanic" problem. It is only that most illegal aliens are currently from Mexico and the vast majority of illegal aliens are Hispanic.
Maybe with the exception of the Swedish Bikini Team, the majority of Americans would be against any people, regardless of race, nationality or ethnicity, being illegal aliens in the USA.
Prison/incarceration costs: *2004*!!!!
It is worth noting that all the incarceration costs, some $5.6 billion in 2004, are ultimately paid for by the taxpayers
In any case, with 267,000 illegal aliens incarcerated, as of *2003*, just the incarceration costs at $25,000 per inmate per year is **$6.7 BILLION** per year. I'll take a wild guess that you didn't realize we were spending that much. Do you have any better ideas on what we could be spending $6.7 billion a year on rather than providing three meals a day and color TV to a bunch of illegal alien prisoners? While you think about that, here is anther one to ponder: how much money would we have saved since 1980 if there were still only 9,000 incarcerated illegal aliens rather than 267,000?



I could go on for a long time here. But *read* the article. It is old, but quite thorough.

You may just change your mind on the illegal problem that is draining this great country DRY..



Like it says, the number of Mexican/Hespanic Illegals is very high, due to the proximity of the boarder and Economics there..

This is Not a race issue, this is not an Immigrant issue (we are all Immigrants), including the American Indians (they just got here sooner, according to some experts)..

Yes its a problem, A big problem!!!!
that is costing us more then we can afford.
Solutions?????
Amnesty & Legalize them and so they can pay taxes, then slam the boarder closed??
One solution that I have read that makes sense and probably the only one that will work at all.....

You have to have your head in the sand to NOT know the issues and costs to the 'legal' citizens (who pay taxes) for the illegals in this country.. And it gets bigger every year.

I drove a truck for 7 years after I retired. Its not just Calif or the S/W states either. Its at least 49 states that I am aware of (Excluding only Hawaii, I havnt been there)...
Canada dont play around... Few and far between there.

Like I said, it will end..... The money is about gone.......



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