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Ok 800 statesmen, scientists etc. signed a letter to the U.N.. Let's see there's about 6 million scientists in the U.S.. Statesmen, probably about 25000 or more in the U.S.. Are you getting the point here? 800 is a drop in the bucket and means squat!
I can go on the internet and circulate a petition and get twice that number in a week, if it's a meaningful cause!
If a million scientists were supporting legalization I might take note and rethink my ideas, but 800, I don't think that's going to do it!. And who are the presidents? I don't remember more than 5 being alive at the same time, and one of them was Reagan and he had Alzheimers so that leaves him out. Carter, Clinton, Bush1 and Bush2? I don't think Bush 2 would have signed such a deal! Hmmmmm? Just curious on that, not questioning it, I'd just like to know.
LEAP on their website shows a membership of 1845, probably about 1/2 to 2/3 are actual law enforcement so say 2/3 about 1200. That's less than half the total of officers on the Dallas Police Rolls not to mention LAPD, maybe a third of theirs. Hardly imposing numbers supporting legalization.
Anyone can make a website and you will find varying opinions in every walk of life. Police and Law enforcement number in the millions, it's not hard to find a couple thousand out of a few million that support legalization. I bet you'll find at least half of that that support NAMBLA among law enforcement!
No NORML membership nessary!
Aspirin is directly the cause of hundreds of deaths in the US each year, but you are told its safe, and even the AMA recommends a pill a day to prevent blood clots. Bayer patented aspirin back in the late 1800's an pretty much wiped all other forms of competition because they were the first to come out with a convenient, pill-form pain reliever. While you can only patent things for so long in the US, Bayer still holds patents in many countries in the world. Who cares about pot? Who cares about aspirin? Nobody, unless you point out the extremes.
All sides, regardless of view, use the same tactics and methods to argue their case. This is just one of those things that people will never agree on regardless of legality while slinging the same stones.
Is it healthy or unhealthy? Nobody really cares, it always becomes a morals issue.
If you argue that smoking is bad for you, but are told that you don't have to smoke it, it doesn't change how you feel. You still argue that smoking is bad, yet nobody is arguing with you to "smoke"
If you argue that it will only be abused, others will argue anything can be abused.
If you argue it is an addictive substance, others will argue it is no more addictive than other substances that are currently legalized. That wont make you want to save the world against other potentially harmful substances. I think most people can agree that pot isnt in the same league as coke, heroin, or meth but regardless it still has its dangers.
I think things are fine where they are in CA. MJ is decriminalized, but still illegal. Those who are really using MJ medicinally have the access they need. Those who are using it recreationally aren't directly funding the street criminals. If you are deathly against pot, you don't have to worry about your doctor ever suggesting it to you. They follow federal laws, and ignore state laws. If you are not against it, you can at least find a doctor who will discuss it even if it is just to ask questions. The MJ doctor will still advise you to look into other alternatives.
If you argue its for the good of mankind to ban pot, I have to disagree with you. However, I'm willing to exchange it for the prohibition of alcohol and coffee. Lets clean up CA's streets by removing all the drunk drivers, coffee in lap drivers, and stoned drivers. I would be all for that. Imagine how much progress we can make without those distractions.
No matter what is provided as evidence, it will never be enough because as mentioned before, people want a black and white answer.
"Is marijuana good or bad?"
Come on, we all know it will never be that easy. Should it be legalized? I say yes, for adults (ie: those who can legally be held accountable for their actions). Everyone can stay focused on who shouldn't have legal access, but isn't that the case for anything? (ie: I don't want angry people to have access to fertilizer and a moving truck) What happened to everything in moderation? The irresponsible people with addictive personalities jacked it up.
I would not give pot to my kids. I would not give it to your kids. I would not give my kids alcohol. I would not give my kids cigarettes. I would not give my kids Dr prescribed drugs that weren't intended for them. I would not give my kids too much chocolate. I would expect all of us to be more responsible than that. Even aspirin has child safe caps on the bottles so I can easily say something as safe as aspirin shouldn't be freely given to kids.
Dude I get totally paranoid and shaky off a couple of Excedrin! Is it just me?
Seriously!
TJ, you know Excedrin has caffeine. I had used it many times to help stay awake on long night time drives, kind of a double duty drug. You take a couple and you don't normally drink coffee, you're gonna shake!!!!
enegry drinks give me bubble guts haha
So sorry to hear man. Even after taking an hour to read this whole thread, I tried to stay out of it, but I just want to put my two cents up now. Honestly, I have NEVER used marijuana in my life. Also, don't blame me as I don't know much about legalization of marijuana. I believe that marijuana should be legal to those who truly need it for a good purpose. Sure marijuana has the high effect, but doesn't seem to cause as much damage to the body when compared to alcohol or cigarettes. I know will be attacked for this, but hey, I'm only 17 and am still learning about politics and society. There are pros and cons to legalization, such as the ability to tax, with a con possibly being easy access and many more people getting high. Cigarettes kill, but Uncle Sam makes money off of it, as cannabis is natural and not stuffed with ammonia, nicotine, cyanide, tar, etc. I leave it for future taxpayers and voters to decide.