(Speakers Corner) All lies what the Republicans are running on for the Mid terms

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Originally Posted by CHUCKY

Why should the rich have to pay for the poor? Socialism. Ok. Got it.

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Ok Chucky, what should we do with the poor?

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Originally Posted by steelhead

You keep saying the wealthy, well the wealthy based on Obamacare were the people firmly in the middle class who ended up paying more and still having deductibles through the roof so that even though they paid a higher premium still got less coverage than the free riders who got subsidized. Yep, creating class warfare between the low wage earners and middle class while using the fake news media to suggest that this was a a fight between the top 1% and the poor. Conflating the issues and you and Lefty are too blind to see it because you take MSNBC and Time Magazine as gospel! LOL

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Ok Steelhead, the Republicans starting in 2010 instead of helping work out the bugs of Obama Care. (like offering subsides to higher income workers) Did nothing but try to destroy Obama Care!

Maybe in 2020 under President Biden and an Congress controlled by all Democrats. They will work on improving Obama Care once and for all! Getting it right this time.

The Republicans have finally proving once and for all. When it comes to Health Care, they don't have a stinking clue or any ideas at all that are worth a crap!

So the Democrats should do what the Republicans did for the last 2 years. Blast anything they want done and don't even ask what the Republicans think about Health care!

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Originally Posted by etucker1959

I thought you might respond that way! In other words your employer pays for your Health Insurance and you haven't had any major Health issues in your family..../QUOTE]


Nope


I am the employer.









I was hoping that you wouldn't jump to conclusions or assumptions like that but instead discuss facts rather than feelings.





















To continue covering the employees (who are important to me), Health Insurance expense has doubled and continues each year to go up significantly due to Obama Care. Nothing has changed/improved just the costs.































It might feel good that now 30 million are covered (who weren't before, etc.) especially if there's no skin off one's teeth to see that happen but -----












1.) Employers who care about their employees get stuck with subsidizing (with all the consequences that huge increases in operating costs entail)











2.) the national debt increases since the government hasn't seen fit to fund Obama care subsides through personal income taxes increases. So every individual doesn't feel the "bite" of Obama care's costs (unless you are an employer:Neutral:)

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You've haven't recently entered any of our GD discussions! (this was only your 3rd post of 2018) So how are we suppose to know any of your positions???? So I played the percentages and assume you are like 85% of everybody else and are either an employee or an independent business person.

p.s. Next new person who enters any of our discussion. I'll have them fill out an information card about themselves. So we don't make any wrong assumptions about them!

You build a freakin Lemon like a Pinto you junk the car and the plans and design and start a new design you don't try to tweak it or have visions of making it into a classic, so in this analogy you junk the pinto and spend more time and effort on the Mustang. Capish?

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Originally Posted by etucker1959

Ok Steelhead, the Republicans starting in 2010 instead of helping work out the bugs of Obama Care. (like offering subsides to higher income workers) Did nothing but try to destroy Obama Care!

Maybe in 2020 under President Biden and an Congress controlled by all Democrats. They will work on improving Obama Care once and for all! Getting it right this time.

The Republicans have finally proving once and for all. When it comes to Health Care, they don't have a stinking clue or any ideas at all that are worth a crap!

So the Democrats should do what the Republicans did for the last 2 years. Blast anything they want done and don't even ask what the Republicans think about Health care!

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Originally Posted by steelhead

You build a freakin Lemon like a Pinto you junk the car and the plans and design and start a new design you don't try to tweak it or have visions of making it into a classic, so in this analogy you junk the pinto and spend more time and effort on the Mustang. Capish?

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Steelhead Steelhead Steelhead, there is basically only 3 choices for Health Care. Go back to
before there was Obama Care. (Repeal and not Replace) Which had 70 million uninsured people and no protections for people with pre existing conditions. (the majority of the American people wouldn't stand for that!) Or Universal coverage for everyone! (the american people aren't yet in a mood for that) OR DRUM ROLL PLEASE :Confused::Confused::Confused::Confused::Confused: :Confused: Obama Care modified into a better condition. Where it covers more for less money!

Tell me I'm wrong where my logic led us too!! If you do, then what's your answer to the American public's Health Care needs????

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Originally Posted by CHUCKY

Why should the rich have to pay for the poor? Socialism. Ok. Got it.

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Ok CHUCKY, you use the word Socialism like it's some kind of a dirty word! (like Nazi) Do you even understand what Socialism is all about? Or do you just parrot what you hear from Right Wing News organizations!

So with all that being said, your going to get an education that you badly need!

If you think the United States is purely an Capitalistic country you are surly wrong! We have a combination of Capitalism and Socialism working together in a neat fashion! The 2 most popular Socialistic programs we have are Social Security and Medicare.

I for one like the combination of Capitalism and Socialism working together! (you get the best of both worlds) If we were just a truly Capitalist country, we would start to look more like India. (where half the people live on eating the garbage of the other half) Is that the kind of country you want to live in CHUCKY?????

Any politician who would stand in front of his own constituents and suggest we reduce or eliminate either Social Security or Medicare. Well let's just say, "if there was any raw fruit and eggs available at this location." He surly would be pelted with it!!!

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Originally Posted by anchor3n1

You've haven't recently entered any of our GD discussions! (this was only your 3rd post of 2018) So how are we suppose to know any of your positions???? LOL Copy that:Wink:So I played the percentages and assume you are like 85% of everybody else and are either an employee or an independent business person.Nice try at least

p.s. Next new person who enters any of our discussion. I'll have them fill out an information card about themselves. So we don't make any wrong assumptions about them! I agree with that:LOL:

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Thanks etucker -- fun stuff

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Originally Posted by etucker1959

Steelhead Steelhead Steelhead, ...then what's your answer to the American public's Health Care needs????

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It's not nor never been about Health Care needs.



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Originally Posted by anchor3n1

A SOCIALISTIC hammer n sickle way

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Obama Care ≥ SOCISALISM

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Originally Posted by anchor3n1

You've haven't recently entered any of our GD discussions! (this was only your 3rd post of 2018)

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I know

I have been home the last three days mostly nursing a bit of laryngitis (Larry gytis) so I thot I would jump in with both feet and mix it up with the GD professionals. Hope that is OK:Confused: