(Speaker's Corner) Judge Kavanaugh accuser testifying to the Senate committee.

[etucker1959]

This is coming live from ring side. The Judge is just getting killed by Mrs. Ford! His trainer (President Trump) needs to throw into the ring the white towel. (pull his nomination) Before Judge Kavanaugh career is literally killed, in not just his nomination to the Supreme Court. But his current position as Judge on the appellate court. He could be looked on as perjuring himself to the committee, in denying the accusations coming from such a credible witness!

p.s. I watched the commentators on a break at Fox News. They couldn't spin it! They admitted the accuser (Ford) came off as a very credible witness. They also complained the hired gun the Republican Senator hired (to ask questions for them) wasn't tough enough on Mrs. Ford.

They said, the only hope for Judge Kavanaugh is to go on the offense, when he try's to re butt what Mrs. Ford said.

[Natural Lefty]

I don't think Kavanaugh ever should have been nominated for the Supreme Court in the first place, but yeah, I think his nomination is sunk, and even his appellate judgeship looks tainted.

[etucker1959]

You know after I watched the judge melt down in front of the world. (I felt sorrow for him as an human being) However, I still don't want him on the Supreme Court. But as an arrogant person that he is, he wasn't smart enough to withdraw his name, before he went through this public humiliation! So he sorta got what he deserved!

[DarkShadow]

But I thought this President only chooses the best?

[Natural Lefty]

This so-called president wouldn't know what "the best" is if it hit him in the face. LOL

[HawgZWylde]

You want to know why good intelligent people don't frequent this section anymore? Because of people like these posters above my post who are the true delusional and sick minds. What transpired today was disgusting and anyone who supports this political assasination attempt is completely insane and or has a dishonest political agenda. If you are stupid enough to believe there was an iota of political gain for the former democrat now socialist/communist party you have another thing coming. How can you be giddy watching an honorable and accomplished man, his wife and two children be dragged through the mud? How do you think this will affect his two young daughters? You sickos gained nothing and most than likely will.have your arses handed to you in November.

I am disgusted and ashamed to call you fellow Americans. This section is the losers section and is exactly why most of us have left it...

[Natural Lefty]

You seem like more of a ranting lunatic than any of us, Hawgzwylde.
How do you think Kavanaugh trying to rape Christine Blasey Ford affected her life? Oh, I know, she must be lying, or maybe Brett Kavanaugh's evil twin, Bart O' Kavanaugh did it. When a person commits a crime, that person needs to be made accountable. Of course you believe Kavanaugh. That was baked into the cake before these events ever transpired. No matter how believable and emotionally distraught a victim is, no matter the paper trail of evidence that she did indeed talk about it, even in couples therapy as a problem for her and mentioned Kavanaugh by name, she must either be mistaken or lying in your mind. Open your eyes and see that this woman was telling the truth, at least as she knows it. By dismissing her, you come off as an unfeeling, uncompassionate male chauvinist. Save your accusations of being a sicko for the perps who commit crimes against people and ruin their lives, not for people who are trying to get down to the bottom of a matter and discern the truth.

And now, lets talk about the way that the Republicans stole Obama's nomination of Merrick Garland, never even considering it, then rammed Gorsuch through instead by using the nuclear option, and are now trying to do the same with Kavanaugh. That is as dishonest and as disgusting a political trick as I have ever witnessed, much worse than anything done to Kavanaugh, who has earned his critics for a variety of reasons.

By the way, the Democratic Party has gone more conservative over the past few decades, not radically liberal. That's another one of your lies/delusions. It is overdue for a shift back to the left, which will be led by women, minorities and democratic socialist progressives.

[DarkShadow]

You want to know why good intelligent people don't frequent this section anymore? Because of people like these posters above my post who are the true delusional and sick minds. What transpired today was disgusting and anyone who supports this political assasination attempt is completely insane and or has a dishonest political agenda. If you are stupid enough to believe there was an iota of political gain for the former democrat now socialist/communist party you have another thing coming. How can you be giddy watching an honorable and accomplished man, his wife and two children be dragged through the mud? How do you think this will affect his two young daughters? You sickos gained nothing and most than likely will.have your arses handed to you in November.

I am disgusted and ashamed to call you fellow Americans. This section is the losers section and is exactly why most of us have left it...


Oh man, a Hawgz sighting.

Facebook went downhill for ya?

Why are we even giving this dipshit a forum to speak?

[Natural Lefty]

https://artofquotation.wordpress.com/2016/12/16/democracy-is-coming-to-the-usa-its-coming-through-a-crack-in-the-wall/

Democracy is coming to the USA, in a big blue wave.

[steelhead]

And....of course a raving lunatic liberal would believe the accuser without any evidence and all the people whom she cited as being there said they did not remember anything remotely similar to her account, in fact they didn't remember her account at all. If you are to treat accusations as truth then let's also look at Debbie Martinez and Sweatnik Avenatti because they also made unfounded accusations. Naahhhh this isn't a political smear at all because the stunt double from I threw momma from the train aka Feinstein said since there were now multiple accusers that have stepped forward the hearing must be delayed indefinitely.


You seem like more of a ranting lunatic than any of us, Hawgzwylde.
How do you think Kavanaugh trying to rape Christine Blasey Ford affected her life? Oh, I know, she must be lying, or maybe Brett Kavanaugh's evil twin, Bart O' Kavanaugh did it. When a person commits a crime, that person needs to be made accountable. Of course you believe Kavanaugh. That was baked into the cake before these events ever transpired. No matter how believable and emotionally distraught a victim is, no matter the paper trail of evidence that she did indeed talk about it, even in couples therapy as a problem for her and mentioned Kavanaugh by name, she must either be mistaken or lying in your mind. Open your eyes and see that this woman was telling the truth, at least as she knows it. By dismissing her, you come off as an unfeeling, uncompassionate male chauvinist. Save your accusations of being a sicko for the perps who commit crimes against people and ruin their lives, not for people who are trying to get down to the bottom of a matter and discern the truth.

And now, lets talk about the way that the Republicans stole Obama's nomination of Merrick Garland, never even considering it, then rammed Gorsuch through instead by using the nuclear option, and are now trying to do the same with Kavanaugh. That is as dishonest and as disgusting a political trick as I have ever witnessed, much worse than anything done to Kavanaugh, who has earned his critics for a variety of reasons.

By the way, the Democratic Party has gone more conservative over the past few decades, not radically liberal. That's another one of your lies/delusions. It is overdue for a shift back to the left, which will be led by women, minorities and democratic socialist progressives.

[DarkShadow]

Oh man! A Steelplate sighting!

Pretty soon we might see a DevoreFlyer post.

[etucker1959]

People keep forgetting the gloves came off because of Mitch McConell. In the past other then a few exceptions, it was the luck of the draw of who was President in office at the time, who got to appoint replacements to the Supreme Court. Then along comes Mitch McConell, who say's I'll do anything I can in my power to manipulate the Supreme court picks. He denied for no good reason, Obama's pick Merrick Garland. Who Judge Kavanaugh kept praising in his Senate hearing. Then good ole Mitch went nuclear on the filibuster against Supreme court picks. So now the Democrats are fighting back dirty and the Republicans are claiming foul! Give me a break! The idea of having the filibuster was to get more moderate picks for both sides. Not picks that come off of a list of super Conservative Judges by the Federalist society!

You know what the long term results of what that mother father Mitch McConell did? From now on, the only picks that will ever be confirmed are if the President and the majority in the Senate are in the same party. So we will now go years with vacancy's on the Supreme court, if the two party's don't line up. Thanks a lot Mitch McConell!!! You really are a Mother father!

[etucker1959]

You want to know why good intelligent people don't frequent this section anymore? Because of people like these posters above my post who are the true delusional and sick minds. What transpired today was disgusting and anyone who supports this political assasination attempt is completely insane and or has a dishonest political agenda. If you are stupid enough to believe there was an iota of political gain for the former democrat now socialist/communist party you have another thing coming. How can you be giddy watching an honorable and accomplished man, his wife and two children be dragged through the mud? How do you think this will affect his two young daughters? You sickos gained nothing and most than likely will.have your arses handed to you in November.

I am disgusted and ashamed to call you fellow Americans. This section is the losers section and is exactly why most of us have left it...

Let's see if you can see both sides of an coin. Name 1 good reason that Merrick Garland, Obama's pick for the Supreme court. Wasn't at least given an hearing in the Senate? Not that he had to be confirmed but just an hearing. If you can, your moral outrage might have some justification. If you can't or refuse to answer that question. Maybe DS is right about you!

[etucker1959]

And....of course a raving lunatic liberal would believe the accuser without any evidence and all the people whom she cited as being there said they did not remember anything remotely similar to her account, in fact they didn't remember her account at all. If you are to treat accusations as truth then let's also look at Debbie Martinez and Sweatnik Avenatti because they also made unfounded accusations. Naahhhh this isn't a political smear at all because the stunt double from I threw momma from the train aka Feinstein said since there were now multiple accusers that have stepped forward the hearing must be delayed indefinitely.

This is the problem when you listen to Conservative news programs only. (they leave out important details) The part of no collaborating witness's. When Judge Kavanaugh cited Doctor Fords best friend as saying she wasn't at the party. Apparently her friend was very ill and had her Lawyer write the letter saying she wasn't there. Guess what the Lawyer was wrong!!! Had you and the Judge been paying attention to the testimony that Doctor Ford gave. She explained that in the hearing!

[steelhead]

So now she's saying her friend is an invalid who's incapable of remembering things and only her version of the story matters, what about the other boy who she claimed was there not remembering at all? She's also so traumatized by the episode that a few weeks later she ran into Mark Judge working at a supermarket, supposedly the conspirator to the attack and went up and said hi to him....Right!! I guess they didn't think through their LIES well enough. Also a lot of fake whimpering from Blahsey...starts a sentence out with little whimpers and finishes sentence with no intonation multiple times. Sorry but this chick needs more acting lessons. Wish for the blue wave boys!!! Gooooo Blue! And if it doesn't happen invest in Kimberly Clark! LOL




This is the problem when you listen to Conservative news programs only. (they leave out important details) The part of no collaborating witness's. When Judge Kavanaugh cited Doctor Fords best friend as saying she wasn't at the party. Apparently her friend was very ill and had her Lawyer write the letter saying she wasn't there. Guess what the Lawyer was wrong!!! Had you and the Judge been paying attention to the testimony that Doctor Ford gave. She explained that in the hearing!

[etucker1959]

So now she's saying her friend is an invalid who's incapable of remembering things and only her version of the story matters, what about the other boy who she claimed was there not remembering at all? She's also so traumatized by the episode that a few weeks later she ran into Mark Judge working at a supermarket, supposedly the conspirator to the attack and went up and said hi to him....Right!! I guess they didn't think through their LIES well enough. Also a lot of fake whimpering from Blahsey...starts a sentence out with little whimpers and finishes sentence with no intonation multiple times. Sorry but this chick needs more acting lessons. Wish for the blue wave boys!!! Gooooo Blue! And if it doesn't happen invest in Kimberly Clark! LOL

Have an FBI investigation and find out the truth! Did you see Judge Kavanaugh squirm and not answer when asked if he wanted an FBI investigation. That's the action of an guilty person!

[steelhead]

So someone can make unfounded allegations 36 years after the fact with no evidence and demands an investigation in order to roadblock a nomination and that is perfectly fine. What is telling is the stunt double for I threw momma from the train Feinstein latching onto the more absurd allegations that have since came out to justify for an FBI investigation because according to her that was further evidence. Let's be honest they are demanding an investigation to stretch this out to the midterm so that if they take the ssenate they can keep an empty seat for the next two years, this is not about chasing down a story that has no legs to start with but now that the dems have gotten their hands on it they've given it wings! The burden of proof is on the accuser not on the accused to disprove, that's faulty liberal logic Etucker. It's not guilty until proven innocent, you knew that right?




Have an FBI investigation and find out the truth! Did you see Judge Kavanaugh squirm and not answer when asked if he wanted an FBI investigation. That's the action of an guilty person!

[etucker1959]

So someone can make unfounded allegations 36 years after the fact with no evidence and demands an investigation in order to roadblock a nomination and that is perfectly fine. What is telling is the stunt double for I threw momma from the train Feinstein latching onto the more absurd allegations that have since came out to justify for an FBI investigation because according to her that was further evidence. Let's be honest they are demanding an investigation to stretch this out to the midterm so that if they take the ssenate they can keep an empty seat for the next two years, this is not about chasing down a story that has no legs to start with but now that the dems have gotten their hands on it they've given it wings! The burden of proof is on the accuser not on the accused to disprove, that's faulty liberal logic Etucker. It's not guilty until proven innocent, you knew that right?

Why are you Republicans soo easy to defeat with logic and the Truth? You don't have to believe me, (even though I'm pretty smart) but last night the American Bar Association. (not a group of bartenders you twits) Said, do "NOT PROCEED" with a vote on this confirmation till they do a further investigation by the FBI. The ABA said it will damage the integrity of the Supreme court if a vote is pushed through now! As a second thought they also said, "the reputation of the Senate" will also be at stake, but who really cares about them? The Republicans have shown (see my Mitch McConell remarks on previous comments) that this is all about winning at "ANY COST" to them! The American people are a little slow, but they will eventually get there, that the Republicans are really just what Sean Hannity calls them. He uses this line of insults every broadcast as Sarcasm against Republicans. But it's all the truth!!!

[steelhead]

And now your true colors come out. By your lawyer/bartender comment you show your hypocrisy. For all the times you've gone on here defending the common man and those blue collar families who have been in your mind screwed over by Republican policies but yet here you are demeaning the intelligence and standing of a working class! What's wrong with bartenders? How about street sweepers or dog catchers? People do what they have to do and let's not equate intelligence with degrees. Your new democrat rising socialist star Ocasio Cortez has an economic degree from Boston U but she knows nothing about how things work.


Why are you Republicans soo easy to defeat with logic and the Truth? You don't have to believe me, (even though I'm pretty smart) but last night the American Bar Association. (not a group of bartenders you twits) Said, do "NOT PROCEED" with a vote on this confirmation till they do a further investigation by the FBI. The ABA said it will damage the integrity of the Supreme court if a vote is pushed through now! As a second thought they also said, "the reputation of the Senate" will also be at stake, but who really cares about them? The Republicans have shown (see my Mitch McConell remarks on previous comments) that this is all about winning at "ANY COST" to them! The American people are a little slow, but they will eventually get there, that the Republicans are really just what Sean Hannity calls them. He uses this line of insults every broadcast as Sarcasm against Republicans. But it's all the truth!!!

[etucker1959]

And now your true colors come out. By your lawyer/bartender comment you show your hypocrisy. For all the times you've gone on here defending the common man and those blue collar families who have been in your mind screwed over by Republican policies but yet here you are demeaning the intelligence and standing of a working class! What's wrong with bartenders? How about street sweepers or dog catchers? People do what they have to do and let's not equate intelligence with degrees. Your new democrat rising socialist star Ocasio Cortez has an economic degree from Boston U but she knows nothing about how things work.

Congratulations Steelhead, that is the best deflection job I've ever seen on here! (now let's get back to the issue at hand)

What about what the ABA had to say about pushing through this nomination without further investigation? They fear the American public will turn against their fellow lawyers and judges. To them that is more important then what make up the Supreme court is, Conservatives vs Liberals. How do you feel about that Steelhead???

Do you retract your statement about this being a political stunt pulled off by the Democrats? Last time I checked the ABA is non partisan. By the way the FBI could do an investigation in a week! What difference does a week make to a lifetime confirmation? If it means getting at the truth. The truth isn't something the President or Republicans seem to care about much any more do they?

I gave you a several questions. How about answering any of them without deflections?

[DarkShadow]

Congratulations Steelhead, that is the best deflection job I've ever seen on here! (now let's get back to the issue at hand)?

LOL. Grade A deflection job.

Bringing up Cortez? :LOL:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoIYa8zV4AAeC8Z.jpg

Look at the faces of the women in the room.

[etucker1959]

LOL. Grade A deflection job.

Bringing up Cortez? :LOL:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoIYa8zV4AAeC8Z.jpg

Look at the faces of the women in the room.

Those looks on those women faces are priceless! You couldn't pose them better then that! But that's real! That's what 12 old white men pick to the Supreme court do to women's emotions.

[DarkShadow]

Didya hear that Kavanaugh scored a keg for his anticipated nomination today?

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--aOPsUjWB--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/sia8asfm4cbivpuk5mej.jpg

[Brent]

You want to know why good intelligent people don't frequent this section anymore? Because of people like these posters above my post who are the true delusional and sick minds. What transpired today was disgusting and anyone who supports this political assasination attempt is completely insane and or has a dishonest political agenda. If you are stupid enough to believe there was an iota of political gain for the former democrat now socialist/communist party you have another thing coming. How can you be giddy watching an honorable and accomplished man, his wife and two children be dragged through the mud? How do you think this will affect his two young daughters? You sickos gained nothing and most than likely will.have your arses handed to you in November.

I am disgusted and ashamed to call you fellow Americans. This section is the losers section and is exactly why most of us have left it...


Says the a*****e that still flies a confederate flag on his avatar.
Go back under your rock

[Brent]

It would appear that the best and most effective way to shut up the 'whiny, libtard, morons' would be an investigation, BUT they won't do it.
WHY NOT? It would shut the 'accusers' up once and for all, but they know exactly what will happen to this a*****e frat boy when they do that. Bye bye career. His dumb butt should have never accepted the nomination. The republicans have a lot of nerve, especially that turdball Graham. I guess they forgot what Turtleman and Eddie Munster did to Merrick Garland when he was nominated. He couldn't even get a meeting to vote. Hypocritical idiots.

[DarkShadow]

Says the a*****e that still flies a confederate flag on his avatar.
Go back under your rock

LOL


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZba_QVne0E

Hawgz?? Is that you!?

[CHUCKY]

This is coming live from ring side. The Judge is just getting killed by Mrs. Ford! His trainer (President Trump) needs to throw into the ring the white towel. (pull his nomination) Before Judge Kavanaugh career is literally killed, in not just his nomination to the Supreme Court. But his current position as Judge on the appellate court. He could be looked on as perjuring himself to the committee, in denying the accusations coming from such a credible witness!

p.s. I watched the commentators on a break at Fox News. They couldn't spin it! They admitted the accuser (Ford) came off as a very credible witness. They also complained the hired gun the Republican Senator hired (to ask questions for them) wasn't tough enough on Mrs. Ford.

They said, the only hope for Judge Kavanaugh is to go on the offense, when he try's to re butt what Mrs. Ford said.
6 FBI investigations on this guy. And this comes up after 30 years. I smell some BS here.

[steelhead]

Since the FBI is going to further investigate now, will you actually shut your piehole? I doubt it, keep running it junior.
You got a purrty mouth. LOL


It would appear that the best and most effective way to shut up the 'whiny, libtard, morons' would be an investigation, BUT they won't do it.
WHY NOT? It would shut the 'accusers' up once and for all, but they know exactly what will happen to this a*****e frat boy when they do that. Bye bye career. His dumb butt should have never accepted the nomination. The republicans have a lot of nerve, especially that turdball Graham. I guess they forgot what Turtleman and Eddie Munster did to Merrick Garland when he was nominated. He couldn't even get a meeting to vote. Hypocritical idiots.

[noleash]

LOL. Grade A deflection job.

Bringing up Cortez? :LOL:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoIYa8zV4AAeC8Z.jpg

Look at the faces of the women in the room.
Take a goood look at every face in that entire room and ask yourselves ...Would you invite and sit down to dinner with ANY of those people? :Rolls Eyes:

[etucker1959]

So someone can make unfounded allegations 36 years after the fact with no evidence and demands an investigation in order to roadblock a nomination and that is perfectly fine. What is telling is the stunt double for I threw momma from the train Feinstein latching onto the more absurd allegations that have since came out to justify for an FBI investigation because according to her that was further evidence. Let's be honest they are demanding an investigation to stretch this out to the midterm so that if they take the ssenate they can keep an empty seat for the next two years, this is not about chasing down a story that has no legs to start with but now that the dems have gotten their hands on it they've given it wings! The burden of proof is on the accuser not on the accused to disprove, that's faulty liberal logic Etucker. It's not guilty until proven innocent, you knew that right?

I learned something new today I didn't know. (insert joke now) It's about the burden of proof in the Senate confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh. We all know in a criminal case, "you are considered innocent till proven guilty." In the Senate confirmation hearing and voting, they the Senate must advise and give their consent to the nominee to be appointed to the Supreme court. It's not an criminal trial, where the accuser must prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt.

Well what does advise and consent really mean? (the standard) From some great legal minds I saw on TV, they gave their interpretation of advise and consent. They all agree there is "no standard" but it's up to each individual Senator to come up with their own conclusion of what that means.

So in this he said she said case, the Republican Senators said, the burden of proof is on the accuser. Which is correct! The Democrats said, the mere accusations coming from a credible witness (Mrs. Ford) makes Judge Kavanaugh ineligible to be elevated to the Supreme court. Which is also correct.

So it all comes down to if Judge Kavanaugh can get 50 votes in the Senate. It's going to be close. (It really depends on what the FBI finds) If it's inconclusive Judge Kavanaugh gets on the Supreme court. If something "BIG" comes out of it. He is toast!

[etucker1959]

6 FBI investigations on this guy. And this comes up after 30 years. I smell some BS here.

Let's see what the FBI finds. But it's pretty oblivious he likes to drink. The $200,000 he got himself into debt with over Baseball tickets, tells you something about his personality. Did Doctor Ford just make this whole thing up??? How about that outrageous behavior, Brett shod in the hearing room. The dots aren't connected, nor they may never be. But I highly doubt BS is behind the whole thing!

[etucker1959]

6 FBI investigations on this guy. And this comes up after 30 years. I smell some BS here.

Let's see what the FBI finds. But it's pretty oblivious he likes to drink. (when people drink a lot things happen) The $200,000 he got himself into debt with over Baseball tickets, tells you something about his personality. Did Doctor Ford just make this whole thing up??? How about that outrageous behavior, Brett shod in the hearing room. The dots aren't connected yet, nor they may never be. But I highly doubt BS is behind the whole thing!

[steelhead]

The letter is here
https://www.npr.org/2018/09/28/652461140/american-bar-association-reportedly-wants-fbi-investigation-ahead-of-kavanaugh-v

Read it and tell me if this can be abused by democrats and yes the ABA has been known to be against Trumps policies they also wrote a letter objecting to the DOJ about separation at the border so unless they wrote the same letter to the Obama DOJ when this happened they are partisan although you wouldn't know it because your media gods tell you it's non partisan and they make sure to start their story with "the non partisan..." . LOL The key wording in the letter suggests investigating Ford's accusations as well as others who have come forward, no mention of credible accusations. Let's now also investigate the college aged sweatnick chick who claims she went to ten parties where high school aged boys were seen gang raping girls and she was also victim... You would think she would stop going after ONE party. NO? How about reporting the rapes? Now how about addressing what a partisan hypocrite you are Tucker?? What's wrong with people in the service industry?? I know of people with degrees working at home depot and others busting tables, does that make them less qualified or smart?? Who's deflecting now?



Congratulations Steelhead, that is the best deflection job I've ever seen on here! (now let's get back to the issue at hand)

What about what the ABA had to say about pushing through this nomination without further investigation? They fear the American public will turn against their fellow lawyers and judges. To them that is more important then what make up the Supreme court is, Conservatives vs Liberals. How do you feel about that Steelhead???

Do you retract your statement about this being a political stunt pulled off by the Democrats? Last time I checked the ABA is non partisan. By the way the FBI could do an investigation in a week! What difference does a week make to a lifetime confirmation? If it means getting at the truth. The truth isn't something the President or Republicans seem to care about much any more do they?

I gave you a several questions. How about answering any of them without deflections?

[steelhead]

Wow, so now we're making a bunch of assumptions, I guess you've never drank in hour life and millions upon millions of people drink everyday in this country and heavily on the weekend so by your logic they're rapists. Now a man who makes a decent living and spends on his favorite interest is criticized even though he paid it all back... wow liberal logic, let's see if I drive a nice car down the street you're going to judge me too because I could have spent that money more wisely... last I checked this was a FREE country and unless he hurt someone by spending that 200K he's entitled but you lots live in liberal lala land.
Let's see what the FBI finds. But it's pretty oblivious he likes to drink. (when people drink a lot things happen) The $200,000 he got himself into debt with over Baseball tickets, tells you something about his personality. Did Doctor Ford just make this whole thing up??? How about that outrageous behavior, Brett shod in the hearing room. The dots aren't connected yet, nor they may never be. But I highly doubt BS is behind the whole thing!

[etucker1959]

Wow, so now we're making a bunch of assumptions, I guess you've never drank in hour life and millions upon millions of people drink everyday in this country and heavily on the weekend so by your logic they're rapists. Now a man who makes a decent living and spends on his favorite interest is criticized even though he paid it all back... wow liberal logic, let's see if I drive a nice car down the street you're going to judge me too because I could have spent that money more wisely... last I checked this was a FREE country and unless he hurt someone by spending that 200K he's entitled but you lots live in liberal lala land.

Seriously let's think about this for a minute. What do we know for sure about this guy? He likes his booze and baseball (I take it his team is the Washington Nationals) and what he showed in the hearing room to some of the Democratic Senators. (His anger towards them was unprecedented as an nominee for the Supreme court)

He totally reminded me of an out of control drunken fan at a baseball game! You know the kind, we've all seen them at the games. The guy who get's in a fight, while he's intoxicated and is escorted out of the stadium by security! Tell me you can't picture him being that guy! (he even sorta looks the part)

p.s. The only time I've ever been close to a physical fight as an adult. (can we guess where?) No it wasn't at the catfish pond. It was at an baseball game coming from a drunken fan.

p.p.s. I know we've got a lot of baseball fans on here, so you know I'm not making this up!

p.p.p.s. I'll also bet there is more drunken altercations at an Washington Nationals game, then there is at either of the 2 LA teams home games. So when he was in the hearing room, he must have thought the Democratic Senators were all Yankee fans and he just went berserk!

[steelhead]

LOL LOL LOL I think the picture is hilarious


LOL. Grade A deflection job.

Bringing up Cortez? :LOL:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DoIYa8zV4AAeC8Z.jpg

Look at the faces of the women in the room.

[Brent]

Since the FBI is going to further investigate now, will you actually shut your piehole? I doubt it, keep running it junior.
You got a purrty mouth. LOL

You're ignorant, hillbilly, racist, homophobic tenancies are showing again and I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that your mouth is foul, disgusting, rotten and smells like a month old dead water buffaloes as$$. When you don't have any teeth in your rotten mouth, everyone's mouths are 'purty' to you I guess.
The 'limited' investigation may or may not help. Should have been a full blown investigation regardless of when it was brought up.
He's a hot head that does not have the temperament to be on the SCOTUS. I can handle the stupid college crap more than the way he handled himself during the questioning.

[Natural Lefty]

It looks like whether Kavanaugh will be confirmed or not will come down to a few Republican Senators, and whether they are more loyal to their party or their consciences. Kavanaugh is clearly a Republican operative who has been put forth to advance their agenda, not an impartial judge. That is reason enough not to confirm him, in addition to the questions about his character, honesty and temperament.

By the way, even Trump said that Christine Blasey Ford's testimony was credible.

[etucker1959]

It looks like whether Kavanaugh will be confirmed or not will come down to a few Republican Senators, and whether they are more loyal to their party or their consciences. Kavanaugh is clearly a Republican operative who has been put forth to advance their agenda, not an impartial judge. That is reason enough not to confirm him, in addition to the questions about his character, honesty and temperament.

By the way, even Trump said that Christine Blasey Ford's testimony was credible.

I saw that others reached the same conclusion. Instead of him being called an impartial judge. He will be if confirmed, "the first political hack" to ever make it to the Supreme court.

[steelhead]

That's right because Kagan, Sotomayor, Ginsburg are not political hacks at all.....cough.. Bull@#$! Imagine if Gorsuch had said... I would think a "wise middle age white man" with the richness of my experience... what would the backlash be I wonder, what a bunch of blind mice you guys are. Funny stuff


I saw that others reached the same conclusion. Instead of him being called an impartial judge. He will be if confirmed, "the first political hack" to ever make it to the Supreme court.

[etucker1959]

That's right because Kagan, Sotomayor, Ginsburg are not political hacks at all.....cough.. Bull@#$! Imagine if Gorsuch had said... I would think a "wise middle age white man" with the richness of my experience... what would the backlash be I wonder, what a bunch of blind mice you guys are. Funny stuff

Let's go to the common sense test! (the smell test)

This is the highest court in the land and there is only 9 of them. So is it to much too ask for the judges to be all choir boys or girls?? But this guy can't even pass the average Joe test!!

Like getting an Divorce or maybe even a 502. No this guy goes to the absolute bottom of the decent human being test! (here is what I mean)

What is the 3 worst crimes can an Human being do in this life?

1. Murder

Well no one has accused him of that. But being the White House council in the Bush administration after 911, you can never tell. (he wouldn't have killed anyone himself, but he could have been a party to order the death of someone)

2. Torture

Bingo!!! Guilty as Hell! Anyone who knows his record, knows this is true.

3. Rape

Oh my God, he was too drunk at the time to finish the job. But according to Doctor Ford, he attempted rape and might even have accidental killed her in the process. According to Doctor Fords testimony, who just about everyone say's is credible! (including President Trump)

I think I just had a Perry Mason moment!

I think they (judges on SOTUS) should be choir boy's and at worst average Joes. But this guy has committed or attempted to commit 2 out of 3 the worst crimes mankind can do to each other!!! (breath slowly everybody and think about what I just wrote) committed or attempted to commit 2 out of 3 of the worst crimes mankind can inflict on each other.

They the Republicans want to make him a judge on the Supreme court, after all this is known about the guy???? Sean Hannity's insults he uses on the Republicans, really are true, if you think about what I just wrote!!!

p.s. I would like to thank Steelhead for playing the straight guy and feeding me all the lines I need for moments like this!!! lol lol lol

[Natural Lefty]

I think Kavanaugh is the only one who has actually worked in a former president's administration. That puts him on a higher level of partisanship, which was pretty clear when he gave his speech the other day.

[etucker1959]

No response from Steelhead yet. I would like to take this moment and thank Steelhead for playing the part of attorney Burger in the old Perry Mason TV series. (he was the attorney Perry Mason always get the better of) If that reference was too old and out of date, I can use another one that might be more relate-able. He is and his cohort's are the Washington Generals. The Basketball team the Harlem Globe trotters always play against and always win. lol

In any kind of debate, you do want to hear both sides of an argument, then make up your own mind what makes more sense to you. It wouldn't be as much fun if everybody just made speeches, without any kind of comebacks. I thought we had a built in team before the 2016 Presidential election. But once they won with their guy, they all took off before he was even sworn in. (what's with that???) Really!!! It was OK to attack Obama on every turn he made. But when it came time to defend the White guy who replaced him. (I've got no time for that!!!)

So keep up the good work Steelhead and friends. If you want to beat this dead horse some more I'm ready for another round or 2.:Dead Horse::Dead Horse::Dead Horse::Dead Horse::Dead Horse::

[DarkShadow]

.... If you want to beat this dead horse some more I'm ready for another round or 2.:Dead Horse::Dead Horse::Dead Horse::Dead Horse::Dead Horse::

Round 1 of eTucks vs Steelplate & Friends was brought to you buy our sponsors.

When a comedy show makes more sense than Fox News, you know we're living in some unprecedented times:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljmCX0R7Tqg

[steelhead]

Come back when you've got some real evidence otherwise a psychologically compromised psychologist who has lied repeatedly making up accusations and saying she is 100% percent sure about HIM being the perpetrator but not sure about anything else does not pass the smell test. There is a presumption of innocence until proven guilty not the other way despite liberal screaming otherwise. Using your hyper active imagination to create what if scenarios is not evidence. More desperation coming from the liberls as now a left wing nutty professor is claiming he got into an altercation with Kavanaugh 30 years ago and Kavanaugh could have been the person that threw ice at him... whooopeee doo, serious stuff. How bad is that compared to say taking a few extra pieces of mint from the tray at the local home town buffet as I'm leaving I wonder... LOL




Let's go to the common sense test! (the smell test)

This is the highest court in the land and there is only 9 of them. So is it to much too ask for the judges to be all choir boys or girls?? But this guy can't even pass the average Joe test!!

Like getting an Divorce or maybe even a 502. No this guy goes to the absolute bottom of the decent human being test! (here is what I mean)

What is the 3 worst crimes can an Human being do in this life?

1. Murder

Well no one has accused him of that. But being the White House council in the Bush administration after 911, you can never tell. (he wouldn't have killed anyone himself, but he could have been a party to order the death of someone)

2. Torture

Bingo!!! Guilty as Hell! Anyone who knows his record, knows this is true.

3. Rape

Oh my God, he was too drunk at the time to finish the job. But according to Doctor Ford, he attempted rape and might even have accidental killed her in the process. According to Doctor Fords testimony, who just about everyone say's is credible! (including President Trump)

I think I just had a Perry Mason moment!

I think they (judges on SOTUS) should be choir boy's and at worst average Joes. But this guy has committed or attempted to commit 2 out of 3 the worst crimes mankind can do to each other!!! (breath slowly everybody and think about what I just wrote) committed or attempted to commit 2 out of 3 of the worst crimes mankind can inflict on each other.

They the Republicans want to make him a judge on the Supreme court, after all this is known about the guy???? Sean Hannity's insults he uses on the Republicans, really are true, if you think about what I just wrote!!!

p.s. I would like to thank Steelhead for playing the straight guy and feeding me all the lines I need for moments like this!!! lol lol lol

[Natural Lefty]

This is not a criminal trial. These are only hearings to help determine Brett Kavanaugh's suitability for the Supreme Court. Thus, the standard of being proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt does not apply. If Kavanaugh is not confirmed, Trump will just pick another nominee and Kavanaugh will not go to jail unless he is determined to have committed a crime in a subsequent trial.

[Natural Lefty]

If Dr. Ford is psychologically compromised, perhaps it's due to the trauma caused to her when she was 15 years old by Brett Kavanaugh and Mark Judge.

[etucker1959]

Come back when you've got some real evidence otherwise a psychologically compromised psychologist who has lied repeatedly making up accusations and saying she is 100% percent sure about HIM being the perpetrator but not sure about anything else does not pass the smell test. There is a presumption of innocence until proven guilty not the other way despite liberal screaming otherwise. Using your hyper active imagination to create what if scenarios is not evidence. More desperation coming from the liberls as now a left wing nutty professor is claiming he got into an altercation with Kavanaugh 30 years ago and Kavanaugh could have been the person that threw ice at him... whooopeee doo, serious stuff. How bad is that compared to say taking a few extra pieces of mint from the tray at the local home town buffet as I'm leaving I wonder... LOL

Thank you again Steelhead for feeding me the lines I need to make my points.

In your opening line you said, comeback when you have some real evidence. Ok how about this? Do you believe your own eyeballs? Look at Brett Kavanaugh demeanor in his rebuttal after Doctor Ford spoke. His anger and demeanor was unprecedented in a Senate hearing! (SNL made a whole show spoofing this!!) I saw a former Senator speak on the subject, who use to be chairmen of the ethics committee. If she was still in charge, she said, she would have brought charges against Brett Kavanaugh! (he is still a siting judge)

Steelhead, did you ever look at the symbol of Lady Liberty for Justice? (she is blindfolded) Which means she is suppose to have an open mind when deciding cases. Judge Kavanaugh in his rantings went after the Left. Mumbling about conspiracy's and payback for the Clintons! How can a Supreme court justice listen to cases with a closed mind, about anything that might have a Liberal overtone? He can't, so that alone should disqualify him right there!

So you wanted hard evidence, watch the tapes of his rebuttal and his admitting he likes Beer! lol (or just watch SNL) Liking Beer should not disqualify someone from being a Supreme court justice. But it was an admission of his questionable behavior of his past. He didn't come out and say, "it was the Beer that made me do it!" But he might as well said it, because we all know what he meant!

What about the lying part? An urban dictionary can prove that, when he was talking about his yearbook! One of the Democratic Senators started off with a Latin phrase about lying. It basically said, if you lie about the little things, you will certainly lie about the big things! Buffing and the Devils Triangle and the Remada alumni club were all certainly lies the Judge told about in his yearbook. Or him refusing to admit he is Bart Kavanagh his friend Mark Judge wrote about in his book. (I could go on about more about the lies he told, but I think you get the point) So what about the Big stuff??? Like did you try to Rape Christine Balsley Ford????

As Perry Mason would say, "I rest my case."

[steelhead]

And perhaps she made the whole thing up because the liberal media and democrat senators have been asking the dumb question of "what does she have to gain"?
Really? How about a Go Fund Me page that's going hit 1 million soon and who knows what other arrangements have been made between the DNC and Ford. She is a pawn plain and simple and what's telling is Feinstein being quoted that she didn't even know if Ford's account was entirely true only to catch fire from her own democrat camp and having to fall back in line. This was a hail mary 12th hour effort to delay the vote in the hopes of winning the senate and holding an enmpty seat open until 2020.
We'll see come Nov if it's successful.


If Dr. Ford is psychologically compromised, perhaps it's due to the trauma caused to her when she was 15 years old by Brett Kavanaugh and Mark Judge.

[steelhead]

You really have an active imagination and I'm glad the justice system in this country the majority of the time does not apply our liberal logic to determine guilt.
I like beer too so maybe I shouldn't be a teacher because that might be a bad reflection and poor role model for students. As for his angry rebuttal, if he had a subdued, passive response you liberals would have pointed it out and said he didn't vehemently deny it so it must be true! His reaction is exactly the reaction I would expect from someone who is innocent and wrongly accused. Tucker you couldn't punch your way out of a junior high debate so give it a rest with your Perry Mason moment, pathetic! Delusions of grandeur much?



Thank you again Steelhead for feeding me the lines I need to make my points.

In your opening line you said, comeback when you have some real evidence. Ok how about this? Do you believe your own eyeballs? Look at Brett Kavanaugh demeanor in his rebuttal after Doctor Ford spoke. His anger and demeanor was unprecedented in a Senate hearing! (SNL made a whole show spoofing this!!) I saw a former Senator speak on the subject, who use to be chairmen of the ethics committee. If she was still in charge, she said, she would have brought charges against Brett Kavanaugh! (he is still a siting judge)

Steelhead, did you ever look at the symbol of Lady Liberty for Justice? (she is blindfolded) Which means she is suppose to have an open mind when deciding cases. Judge Kavanaugh in his rantings went after the Left. Mumbling about conspiracy's and payback for the Clintons! How can a Supreme court justice listen to cases with a closed mind, about anything that might have a Liberal overtone? He can't, so that alone should disqualify him right there!

So you wanted hard evidence, watch the tapes of his rebuttal and his admitting he likes Beer! lol (or just watch SNL) Liking Beer should not disqualify someone from being a Supreme court justice. But it was an admission of his questionable behavior of his past. He didn't come out and say, "it was the Beer that made me do it!" But he might as well said it, because we all know what he meant!

What about the lying part? An urban dictionary can prove that, when he was talking about his yearbook! One of the Democratic Senators started off with a Latin phrase about lying. It basically said, if you lie about the little things, you will certainly lie about the big things! Buffing and the Devils Triangle and the Remada alumni club were all certainly lies the Judge told about in his yearbook. Or him refusing to admit he is Bart Kavanagh his friend Mark Judge wrote about in his book. (I could go on about more about the lies he told, but I think you get the point) So what about the Big stuff??? Like did you try to Rape Christine Balsley Ford????

As Perry Mason would say, "I rest my case."

[etucker1959]

You really have an active imagination and I'm glad the justice system in this country the majority of the time does not apply our liberal logic to determine guilt.
I like beer too so maybe I shouldn't be a teacher because that might be a bad reflection and poor role model for students. As for his angry rebuttal, if he had a subdued, passive response you liberals would have pointed it out and said he didn't vehemently deny it so it must be true! His reaction is exactly the reaction I would expect from someone who is innocent and wrongly accused. Tucker you couldn't punch your way out of a junior high debate so give it a rest with your Perry Mason moment, pathetic! Delusions of grandeur much?

Couldn't punch myself out of an Junior High School debate? :LOL::LOL::LOL: Eliminate Doctor Ford from the equation and the guy still doesn't deserve an SCOTUS seat! The way the Judge talked to an co-equal branch of government. (Senators) That should disqualify him right there!

p.s. Just in after I just wrote this! 650 Law school professors just signed a petition to deny Judge Kavanaugh a position on the Supreme court. Sighted reasons, the same ones I've been giving you for a week!

Now who couldn't debate themselves out of an wet paper bag? I think his name is Steelhead!:Explode::Explode:

[CHUCKY]

This is coming live from ring side. The Judge is just getting killed by Mrs. Ford! His trainer (President Trump) needs to throw into the ring the white towel. (pull his nomination) Before Judge Kavanaugh career is literally killed, in not just his nomination to the Supreme Court. But his current position as Judge on the appellate court. He could be looked on as perjuring himself to the committee, in denying the accusations coming from such a credible witness!

p.s. I watched the commentators on a break at Fox News. They couldn't spin it! They admitted the accuser (Ford) came off as a very credible witness. They also complained the hired gun the Republican Senator hired (to ask questions for them) wasn't tough enough on Mrs. Ford.

They said, the only hope for Judge Kavanaugh is to go on the offense, when he try's to re butt what Mrs. Ford said.

He will be confirmed Saturday. Libs tried to spin. Didn’t work. Dems gonna be hurting in November now. For there stupidity. Hey dArk shadOw correct my spelling. Yahoo

[etucker1959]

He will be confirmed Saturday. Libs tried to spin. Didn’t work. Dems gonna be hurting in November now. For there stupidity. Hey dArk shadOw correct my spelling. Yahoo

Dems going to be hurting in November. How??? You just really whizzed off the Democrats, especially the women! They will take their anger to the ballot box's and vote them bastards out!

[CHUCKY]

Dems going to be hurting in November. How??? You just really whizzed off the Democrats, especially the women! They will take their anger to the ballot box's and vote them bastards out!

Let’s see.... dems brought these false charges last minute after the hearings. Then all this other stuff comes up after 6 FBI investigations. All this. Trying to stir the pot got them no where. People are not stupid. They see this is all total BS brought by the dems. Now it’s going to hurt them in the polls. When RBG dies or moves on trump will find another great replacement. Will this happen all over again?

[etucker1959]

Let’s see.... dems brought these false charges last minute after the hearings. Then all this other stuff comes up after 6 FBI investigations. All this. Trying to stir the pot got them no where. People are not stupid. They see this is all total BS brought by the dems. Now it’s going to hurt them in the polls. When RBG dies or moves on trump will find another great replacement. Will this happen all over again?

The charges were never proven true or false. Let the Judge and all his friends take a polygraph test, to see who really makes things up! It's a pretty safe bet, Trump won't be around in 2020!

[CHUCKY]

The charges were never proven true or false. Let the Judge and all his friends take a polygraph test, to see who really makes things up! It's a pretty safe bet, Trump won't be around in 2020!

He said she said. Good luck with that one buddy.

[etucker1959]

He said she said. Good luck with that one buddy.

The truth always comes out in the end. Imagine if the Judge is proven by some means to have really sexual assaulted Doctor Ford. The Republicans will get all the blame for putting him on the Supreme court.

[Natural Lefty]

https://www.wabe.org/poll-more-believe-ford-than-kavanaugh-a-cultural-shift-from-1991-2/

You're being delusional, Chucky. More people believe Ford than Kavanaugh. Even Trump says that Ford seemed credible, before he started mocking and berating her to get his lackey on the Supreme Court. Erik is correct. Most Americans are pissed off, largely because of Kavanaugh's political views and partisanship, as well as suspicions about his behavior and life of privilege, which they are going to make the Republicans pay for in November.

It's also because of what Republicans did with the Merrick Garland nomination, and how they have changed the rules to a "nuclear option" of a simple majority for SCOTUS confirmations that is pissing off most Americans. Republicans have conned the system to get two highly conservative judges on the SCOTUS and give them a majority very conservative Supreme Court. However, I did read that justice Roberts is concerned about the perceived legitimacy of the court.

[CHUCKY]

https://www.wabe.org/poll-more-believe-ford-than-kavanaugh-a-cultural-shift-from-1991-2/

You're being delusional, Chucky. More people believe Ford than Kavanaugh. Even Trump says that Ford seemed credible, before he started mocking and berating her to get his lackey on the Supreme Court. Erik is correct. Most Americans are pissed off, largely because of Kavanaugh's political views and partisanship, as well as suspicions about his behavior and life of privilege, which they are going to make the Republicans pay for in November.

It's also because of what Republicans did with the Merrick Garland nomination, and how they have changed the rules to a "nuclear option" of a simple majority for SCOTUS confirmations that is pissing off most Americans. Republicans have conned the system to get two highly conservative judges on the SCOTUS and give them a majority very conservative Supreme Court. However, I did read that justice Roberts is concerned about the perceived legitimacy of the court.

Good luck with that. We will see in November how everyone feels

[CHUCKY]

This is coming live from ring side. The Judge is just getting killed by Mrs. Ford! His trainer (President Trump) needs to throw into the ring the white towel. (pull his nomination) Before Judge Kavanaugh career is literally killed, in not just his nomination to the Supreme Court. But his current position as Judge on the appellate court. He could be looked on as perjuring himself to the committee, in denying the accusations coming from such a credible witness!

p.s. I watched the commentators on a break at Fox News. They couldn't spin it! They admitted the accuser (Ford) came off as a very credible witness. They also complained the hired gun the Republican Senator hired (to ask questions for them) wasn't tough enough on Mrs. Ford.

They said, the only hope for Judge Kavanaugh is to go on the offense, when he try's to re butt what Mrs. Ford said.

It’s over now. This thread is dead

[etucker1959]

It’s over now. This thread is dead

The thread is dead?:LOL::LOL::LOL: Did you not notice who the OP was? Remember he is the Sicilian in the princess bride movie! (he just getting started!)

The judge was confirmed to the Supreme court. However, unlike Trump's previous pick, this guy came with a lot of questions about him even before being sworn in. I've got at least 2 or 3 really good comments I could make. However, I don't want to get started without my straight man on board.

Hey Steelhead, are you out there? Do you want to go another round or two? Just send me a sign and I'll go first! I've got a couple of pretty good angles already, so you really don't need to say much! lol Otherwise it would just look like I'm just making speeches!

[etucker1959]

https://www.wabe.org/poll-more-believe-ford-than-kavanaugh-a-cultural-shift-from-1991-2/

You're being delusional, Chucky. More people believe Ford than Kavanaugh. Even Trump says that Ford seemed credible, before he started mocking and berating her to get his lackey on the Supreme Court. Erik is correct. Most Americans are pissed off, largely because of Kavanaugh's political views and partisanship, as well as suspicions about his behavior and life of privilege, which they are going to make the Republicans pay for in November.

It's also because of what Republicans did with the Merrick Garland nomination, and how they have changed the rules to a "nuclear option" of a simple majority for SCOTUS confirmations that is pissing off most Americans. Republicans have conned the system to get two highly conservative judges on the SCOTUS and give them a majority very conservative Supreme Court. However, I did read that justice Roberts is concerned about the perceived legitimacy of the court.

I love your last comment! Justice Roberts may feel the court now just can't vote along Partisan lines. Otherwise as you said, the perceived legitimacy of the court is now at stake. He may be forced to become a swing voter, otherwise the American public may lose faith in the Supreme court and call for it's abolishment!

Wouldn't that just kill Mitch McConnell! He sold his soul to the devil and he may have received nothing in return!

[Natural Lefty]

People have been feeling the same way for over a year now, according to polls, Chucky. I don't think it's going to change much between now and the midterm elections.

Even Neil Gorsuch was only confirmed by a 54 to 45 margin, Erik, even without the controversy. It was a stolen SCOTUS appointment, after all. Democrats understand what Republicans have been up to and they are very angry.

[Natural Lefty]

Yes, there was an article in FiveThirtyEight today about how Roberts may swing to the left and become the swing vote out of concerns about partisanship. They think that's why he voted to confirm Obamacare as constitutional, for instance.

Mitch McConnell is a power mad cheater who will stop at nothing and is a total sellout.

[etucker1959]

Yes, there was an article in FiveThirtyEight today about how Roberts may swing to the left and become the swing vote out of concerns about partisanship. They think that's why he voted to confirm Obamacare as constitutional, for instance.

Mitch McConnell is a power mad cheater who will stop at nothing and is a total sellout.

Good ole Mitch isn't fooling anyone who can read. He is now the most unpopular politician in the country. That list includes people who are up for indictments!

[Natural Lefty]

"Mitch McConnell lags again, underwater by 26 points."

Meanwhile, my guy Bernie is still the most popular politician in the United States.

https://morningconsult.com/2018/07/25/americas-most-and-least-popular-senators-2/

[CHUCKY]

People have been feeling the same way for over a year now, according to polls, Chucky. I don't think it's going to change much between now and the midterm elections.

Even Neil Gorsuch was only confirmed by a 54 to 45 margin, Erik, even without the controversy. It was a stolen SCOTUS appointment, after all. Democrats understand what Republicans have been up to and they are very angry.

1 dem voted yea.

[etucker1959]

1 dem voted yea.

Only because it didn't matter!

[Brent]

Only because it didn't matter!

And he wanted to remain in his position in the red state he lives in.