SPEAKERS CORONER (They should have let the horses run free)

[etucker1959]

I'm using the SPEAKERS CORONER headline to talk about topics that are non political. (it also going to be an indicator of how much interest people have in non political topics.)

I went to my office the other day to work on some Marketing material with my business partners. They only work part-time in Real Estate and work full time in the Race track industry. (Horses) I'm taking a brief pause. (Zoey cat jumped in my lap for some morning attention)

So when I walked back to my desk I was greeted with, "did you see the story about the 30 horses lost on the ranch consumed by fire?" No I did not was my answer. I then asked, why didn't they just let the horses run free? Boy did I get a puzzled look from my friend Lucy. I thought everyone knew to do that! Now how would they know to do that was her answer. I responded with, did you ever see the Wizard of Oz or hear the song, a horse with no name? I then when on to explain, in the Wizard of Oz when the Tornado was about to strike Dorothy's farm. The farm hand (the scarecrow who had no brains) let the horses out of the barn so they could save themselves from the Tornado. I further went on to say, if you listen to the lyrics in a horse with no name. At the very end when disaster struck, when the desert had turn to sea. After 9 day's "I let the horse run free" to save it self.

I then got back to the Ranch story where the horses died from the fire. I asked her, "why didn't they have an evacuation plan for the horses?" The simplest thing they could have done is turn all the horses loose and let me try to save themselves. Leaving them all locked up was certain death and that's what happened. I'm not here to bash the people who were in charge of the horses. Maybe they could have done that Maybe they couldn't. My point is in watching all the Natural disasters play out in this nation in recent months.
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People need to have evacuation plans for their family's and yes their pets too!!! I'm sure with the fires we now have, both North (Ventura County) and South (San Diego County) this is effecting some FNN members as we speak. Everyone should have a plan for their family to either hunker down or evacuate if necessary if a disaster is looming. If the need is to hunker down, you should have some vital things stored around the house. Food and Water of course but there is many other items that people should have around the house. If people want to add some things in this thread that others might not think of, that would be great!!!

The other of course is evacuation.

Family's need to know first of all, where they need to go and how to get there. (with alternative routes) In watching the Floods caused by the Hurricanes, pets are part of the family that need to be included in the evacuation plans. Big and Medium size dogs need to be leashed immediately. (they get scared too and their instincts might be to run to safety) Small dogs and cats should immediately be put in a pet carrier for easy transportation. Of course if you have a Horse or any large farm animal. LET IT OUT OF IT'S ENCLOSURE SO IT CAN SAVE ITSELF!!!! lol

I just scratched the surface with my thoughts. I encourage anyone to add to this thread!

[Brent]

I saw that too Tuck and thought the same thing, but then realized that these people obviously care very much for their horses and most likely weren't able to get there in time to let them out. In hindsight I guess knowing all of your neighbors and having a way to reach out and have someone go by and let them out maybe. Really sad to think of.

[DarkShadow]

eTucks,

Did you mean "Corner" or "Coroner?"

And let the horses free. They can actually use their brain to get themselves outta potential danger, unlike us humans who need a LEO knocking at their door telling them to evacuate.

And since this is the Speaker's Coroner, what's up with the Bel Air fire getting put out immediately and resources like C-130s being mobilized to prevent the fire from spreading?

Why aren't those C-130s being used in Ventura?

[etucker1959]

eTucks,

Did you mean "Corner" or "Coroner?"

And let the horses free. They can actually use their brain to get themselves outta potential danger, unlike us humans who need a LEO knocking at their door telling them to evacuate.

And since this is the Speaker's Coroner, what's up with the Bel Air fire getting put out immediately and resources like C-130s being mobilized to prevent the fire from spreading?

Why aren't those C-130s being used in Ventura?

You got me!!! It's corner, unless it does have a trick English spelling. lol

[Lady Quagga]

eTucks,

Did you mean "Corner" or "Coroner?"

And let the horses free. They can actually use their brain to get themselves outta potential danger, unlike us humans who need a LEO knocking at their door telling them to evacuate.

And since this is the Speaker's Coroner, what's up with the Bel Air fire getting put out immediately and resources like C-130s being mobilized to prevent the fire from spreading?

Why aren't those C-130s being used in Ventura?

Because you cant let Uncle Phil's house burn down!

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[DarkShadow]

Because you cant let Uncle Phil's house burn down!

https://media.gq.com/photos/576699b335211722331a66f1/master/w_800/uncle-phil.gif

So the rich get tax breaks and personal fire protection.

And nobody blinks an eye.

Good start to your Coroner thread, eTucks.

[etucker1959]

So the rich get tax breaks and personal fire protection.

And nobody blinks an eye.

Good start to your Coroner thread, eTucks.

Good point!!! I'm sure they are people who don't know, that Earthquake and Fire losses are longer going to be allowed to be able to be taken off your Income Tax's under the new Republican Tax plan. It's going to be really hard but I still think their going to do it. For those 14 Republican House members from CA to vote for that Tax monstrosity!!!!

[Natural Lefty]

I thought the same thing about the word, coroner, but at first I thought it must have something to do with coroners examining dead people -- or dead horses. (Scratching my head LOL)

The normal saying would be "speakers corner," or "chefs corner" or whatever, if it were about cooking, for instance.

There aren't any fires around Moreno Valley at this time, but there is one in the Murrieta area not far south of here.

Oh, my wife called me out this morning while I was doing some work to help her move some cacti to bigger pots. What fun -- playing with cacti. LOL Not really, but I think I only got impaled by one sticker. We have a Golden Barrel Cactus that must be a $100 or more specimen and it had completely filled up its pot. I had to break the ceramic pot it was in with an axe to remove it because it had big roots growing through the hole in the bottom of the pot.

[Natural Lefty]

The example of private firefighters only protecting homes whose owners pay some special fee has been used as an example of the insidiously destructive effects of privatization. Apparently, there is a real threat of this happening, if things keep sliding the way that they have been in society, toward the rich with their trickle down claims that never actually happen.

I have actually heard Thom Hartmann use the firefighting example a few times on the radio, in fact.

[CHUCKY]

I'm using the SPEAKERS CORONER headline to talk about topics that are non political. (it also going to be an indicator of how much interest people have in non political topics.)

I went to my office the other day to work on some Marketing material with my business partners. They only work part-time in Real Estate and work full time in the Race track industry. (Horses) I'm taking a brief pause. (Zoey cat jumped in my lap for some morning attention)

So when I walked back to my desk I was greeted with, "did you see the story about the 30 horses lost on the ranch consumed by fire?" No I did not was my answer. I then asked, why didn't they just let the horses run free? Boy did I get a puzzled look from my friend Lucy. I thought everyone knew to do that! Now how would they know to do that was her answer. I responded with, did you ever see the Wizard of Oz or hear the song, a horse with no name? I then when on to explain, in the Wizard of Oz when the Tornado was about to strike Dorothy's farm. The farm hand (the scarecrow who had no brains) let the horses out of the barn so they could save themselves from the Tornado. I further went on to say, if you listen to the lyrics in a horse with no name. At the very end when disaster struck, when the desert had turn to sea. After 9 day's "I let the horse run free" to save it self.

I then got back to the Ranch story where the horses died from the fire. I asked her, "why didn't they have an evacuation plan for the horses?" The simplest thing they could have done is turn all the horses loose and let me try to save themselves. Leaving them all locked up was certain death and that's what happened. I'm not here to bash the people who were in charge of the horses. Maybe they could have done that Maybe they couldn't. My point is in watching all the Natural disasters play out in this nation in recent months.
,
People need to have evacuation plans for their family's and yes their pets too!!! I'm sure with the fires we now have, both North (Ventura County) and South (San Diego County) this is effecting some FNN members as we speak. Everyone should have a plan for their family to either hunker down or evacuate if necessary if a disaster is looming. If the need is to hunker down, you should have some vital things stored around the house. Food and Water of course but there is many other items that people should have around the house. If people want to add some things in this thread that others might not think of, that would be great!!!

The other of course is evacuation.

Family's need to know first of all, where they need to go and how to get there. (with alternative routes) In watching the Floods caused by the Hurricanes, pets are part of the family that need to be included in the evacuation plans. Big and Medium size dogs need to be leashed immediately. (they get scared too and their instincts might be to run to safety) Small dogs and cats should immediately be put in a pet carrier for easy transportation. Of course if you have a Horse or any large farm animal. LET IT OUT OF IT'S ENCLOSURE SO IT CAN SAVE ITSELF!!!! lol

I just scratched the surface with my thoughts. I encourage anyone to add to this thread!
They had no time to release the horses. The fire came so quickly. Maybe if you were there you could have saved them all.

[Lady Quagga]

They had no time to release the horses. The fire came so quickly. Maybe if you were there you could have saved them all.

But then you would have been deprived of your horsemeat dinner.

[etucker1959]

They had no time to release the horses. The fire came so quickly. Maybe if you were there you could have saved them all.

I do not know the exact time line. However, A fire is not an Earthquake with no warning at all!! I'm sure they were aware of at least a fire warning!!! So I'm going with DS on this one, some people need a Leo to knock on their door to tell them to evacuate. At that moment in time, yes it is too late to let the horses out. But as I said earlier, I don't know the exact time line of how the events unfolded. However, had there been a story about 30 horses were set free in front of an oncoming fire, that probably saved their lives. The management of the horse ranch, "WOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE HERO'S!!"

You know the Horse part of the story is real. But the Horse story is also a "Metaphor" about how people need to be ready in case of an Emergency!! DarkShadow again proved, he is in my opinion the cleverest person on this board. (He got it right away!!)

[CHUCKY]

I do not know the exact time line. However, A fire is not an Earthquake with no warning at all!! I'm sure they were aware of at least a fire warning!!! So I'm going with DS on this one, some people need a Leo to knock on their door to tell them to evacuate. At that moment in time, yes it is too late to let the horses out. But as I said earlier, I don't know the exact time line of how the events unfolded. However, had there been a story about 30 horses were set free in front of an oncoming fire, that probably saved their lives. The management of the horse ranch, "WOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE HERO'S!!"

You know the Horse part of the story is real. But the Horse story is also a "Metaphor" about how people need to be ready in case of an Emergency!! DarkShadow again proved, he is in my opinion the cleverest person on this board. (He got it right away!!)

I get it dude. Remember tho it’s easy to think about would of could of until that fire is at your front door and the fire is at your front door. The winds were massive.

[etucker1959]

I get it dude. Remember tho it’s easy to think about would of could of until that fire is at your front door and the fire is at your front door. The winds were massive.

In checking my Facebook websites this morning, "I saw a sign from God video!!!" The video was about 2 Mexican stable workers (in San Diego) risking their own lives yesterday. Releasing 100's of Horses while a wild fire was burning around them. This too was a similar situation to the previous fire mentioned in this thread.

I doubt they read my thread yesterday morning on FNN. (then acted accordingly as instructed by etucker) lol But they whole point of these GD threads is, they are designed for people to actually learn something from them!!!!