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fishfinder
08-05-2016, 09:56 AM
any-one tell me what I need to buy to use a down rigger. I have watched a few videos, and read some posts, but am now a little more confused than before. I am going to buy this one https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MMVW1C/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
and probably this ball. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MN0JNS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER but don't know about the clips and other stuff. like I said I want to fish with 2 rods. probably fishing for stripers, trout, sac perch. nothing big.
thanks in advance for advice. gonna buy on amazon prime.

webmaster
08-05-2016, 11:16 AM
I've used them for salmon and the clips are pretty much the only other thing you need. I don't think flashers are used in F/W but I may be wrong. I know some guys will stack 2 rods on one downrigger but I would recommend starting off with just one rod until you get the hang of it.

Stumpknocker
08-05-2016, 11:33 AM
I have a Walker clamp-on downrigger...it's all metal, no plastic parts, and it works great. I read reviews on all the clamp-on types before choosing the Walker...one review was from a Canadian guide who uses them on canoes in fly-in lakes. He tried all brands over a 20 year period, and he said the Walker was the only one he's never had to replace...that's music to my ears.

GdHkSet1
08-05-2016, 01:28 PM
FF,

Over the years I run (2) Cannons right now, a UNI-10 w/8lb ball, and a Lake Troll with 4lb ball both on the Cannon swivel bases. 3 things that have taking a beating over the years for Trout and Stripers and were recommend to me from other FNNers were - 1) Scotty Trolling Snubber, for stacking rods using the SEPS release/Stacker combo, and for Stripers release I like the Off Shore releases(They make different sizes). There are other products but I've been running this gear at DV/Skinner/BB/Perris for years-no issues. IMO the Cannon release is a POS. Good luck on trolling it's addicting when you can get those rigs down near the marks.

http://sepsprofishing.com/cart/catalog/Downrigger_Release_and_Stacker-3-1.html

http://www.sportco.com/store/pc/Scotty-Trolling-Snubber-With-Cannonball-Snap-756p42510.htm

http://www.offshoretackle.com/downriggerreleases.html

TroutOnly
08-05-2016, 07:46 PM
i quess you never read my posts.........the double downriggers of death.......i use mine more different ways and better than anybody around..........the cannon clips kick *** vince you have to adjust them .......i use all the time wither its winter time and im running the urigs off braid or in the hotter months with spinning rods and x-raps on the stripers...........CANNON .......downriggers .........this is from the guy who has taught more people d/r use than any other guide ,in these parts..........and dont use the wire cable .......heavy duty braid is better and safer for rookies or pros..........

JAG107
08-05-2016, 10:43 PM
I tried stacking 2 rods on one DR for a while, unless you're running them at least 10 feet apart and using similar FLOATING lures, don't bother. It's a LOT of cranking to pull everything up if you get hit, and a real frustration WHEN (not IF) they get tangled. Besides, if the fish are holding at one depth, and you figure that out with your FF, why would you run 2 different depths anyway?
I used 2 Walkers and a Cannon off and on, I liked them both. Really the features become an expensive convenience which you must decide for yourself if you can live with or without them. I always bought my weights from Amazon, can you believe they ship lead balls for free?! Anything less than 8 lbs, especially if you troll over 2MPH will cause much blow back, and your depth will be inaccurate.

P.A.W.
08-06-2016, 12:33 PM
I'd just like to repeat TO's recommendation that you ditch the cable. It howls like a banshee as the water rushes around it. I used Dyneema line to replace mine.

JAG107
08-06-2016, 01:17 PM
I'd just like to repeat TO's recommendation that you ditch the cable. It howls like a banshee as the water rushes around it. I used Dyneema line to replace mine.


Indeed it does! Especially at 2-3mph. WOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOO

The one positive to this is you can usually tell when you get bit as the frequency of the wailing will change or stop.

TroutOnly
08-06-2016, 07:59 PM
...until youre slow trolling a point or big structure hump and get too close and park youre d/r ball into the rocks in big wave windy conditions and youre boat gets spun around,,,in a danger spot you can cut the braid with a knife good luck on the cable .....

JAG107
08-06-2016, 08:12 PM
...until youre slow trolling a point or big structure hump and get too close and park youre d/r ball into the rocks in big wave windy conditions and youre boat gets spun around,,,in a danger spot you can cut the braid with a knife good luck on the cable .....

Words of wisdom from the master. If the ball gets stuck, something has to break...the cable, the downrigger, the part of the boat its attached to...Personally, I'd rather lose $30 worth of lead than a chunk of fiberglass, a $200 DR, or something even worse.

muskyman
08-07-2016, 09:37 AM
if you do stand a chance at bottoming out with your downrigger weight, set your brake so the drum will spin so you don't loose the entire rig, or rip off part of your gunwale / transom. I also use rubber bands instead of clips with certain baits and certain fish. Half hitch the rubber bands to your line and downrigger line and your good to go. Braid is the way to go like T.O. said, it gives off less vibration and less blow back. If your after lakers, I like to bounce my downrigger ball off the bottom at times, on purpose. It works wonders on them and gives them a trail to follow. Works like a charm on lake michigan.

TroutOnly
08-13-2016, 09:38 AM
when dvl was very low ,i saw two d/rs and what was left of there mounts up in the rocks out by the west dam down on the south end,,,,,,,a friend of mine was there that day i told him were they were and he recovered them..........i didnt want to pick up somebodys eles bad luck..........

fishfinder
08-13-2016, 01:52 PM
Wow. Lots of replies. Sitting here at the outlet store in Camarillo shopping with my girlfriend. This post is saving me. I am gonna order this weekend for sure. Can't wait to get on the lake and try it out.

pwynn
08-17-2016, 08:12 AM
Listen to Bob he knows his stuff. I still use wire but my dr's are electric. i also only use stacking clips. i got tired of lifting the ball out of the water so now i just attach a stacking clip to the line just above the weight snubber that way i never have to bring in the weight until i am done. i use offshore tackle planner board clips, yellow for trout and black for when i am pulling a urig. They are the same clips that Seps uses but i buy them myself and rig them up. The trick is to learn to run the downrigger and the boat at the same time.... have fun.

fishfinder
08-17-2016, 10:31 AM
Listen to Bob he knows his stuff. I still use wire but my dr's are electric. i also only use stacking clips. i got tired of lifting the ball out of the water so now i just attach a stacking clip to the line just above the weight snubber that way i never have to bring in the weight until i am done. i use offshore tackle planner board clips, yellow for trout and black for when i am pulling a urig. They are the same clips that Seps uses but i buy them myself and rig them up. The trick is to learn to run the downrigger and the boat at the same time.... have fun.

good idea on the stack up. I just bought these. might be a beginner buy, but that's what I am. thanks to everyone for chiming in with some great advice. Might have to book a trip with Bob to see how to do this. Might be a very cheap lesson.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MN0JNS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MMVW80/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000MMVW1C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

fishfinder
08-25-2016, 05:22 PM
FF,

Over the years I run (2) Cannons right now, a UNI-10 w/8lb ball, and a Lake Troll with 4lb ball both on the Cannon swivel bases. 3 things that have taking a beating over the years for Trout and Stripers and were recommend to me from other FNNers were - 1) Scotty Trolling Snubber, for stacking rods using the SEPS release/Stacker combo, and for Stripers release I like the Off Shore releases(They make different sizes). There are other products but I've been running this gear at DV/Skinner/BB/Perris for years-no issues. IMO the Cannon release is a POS. Good luck on trolling it's addicting when you can get those rigs down near the marks.

http://sepsprofishing.com/cart/catalog/Downrigger_Release_and_Stacker-3-1.html

http://www.sportco.com/store/pc/Scotty-Trolling-Snubber-With-Cannonball-Snap-756p42510.htm

http://www.offshoretackle.com/downriggerreleases.html


bought the walker release. took back the cannon release.