View Full Version : Blue Stoning - Aug 4
karalm
08-02-2016, 06:23 AM
Be advised that Silverwood posted on their webpage that the lake is going to be closed this Thursday for water conditioning. I have heard that the algae has been thick and this will control it and hopefully bring back water clarity in the near future.
Water clarity actually has improved in some areas and the lake is pretty near full pool, shallower areas are pretty disgusting with algae but weed beds have dropped down making it more fishable from the top, although I'm missing the frog bite on the beds. The treatment that I understand is being used will not be the blue stone but the other treatment (I forget the name) and will be done via helicopter spraying.
karalm
08-02-2016, 10:06 AM
Good then its possible weed control or algae killer and yes by Copter
Well add Silverwood to lakes with too much of the toxic algae, supposedly. The DWR thinks that there is too much of the algae, so many parts per million yada yada. They are seriously considering shutting the lake down to water contact due to the algae concerns and placards are going up with warnings. My observations are that I've seen WAY worse conditions in years past than what I'm seeing currently at the lake. Think this might be another DWR move that seems to make little sense but hey boats supposedly will still be allowed and fishing also so the upside might be less insanity for the rest of the summer. I don't know how serious they will be so concerned with possibly no kayaking for a while and water level is so high that wading to fish is a necessity in many areas.
I'll update if I find out more I was just informed yesterday and I don't think they even know all the details yet.
DEVOREFLYER
08-04-2016, 09:03 AM
Oh yes please shut it down to no body contact and I will be fishing it immediately. Lake lice are like the plague in the summer.
shinbob
08-04-2016, 09:05 AM
My observations are that I've seen WAY worse conditions in years past than what I'm seeing currently at the lake.
Not all blue-green algae are the toxic kind. I've also seen much worse algae mats at Pyramid, entire coves that look like you can just walk across, but I also know they test the water every year, so I presume the previous year's bloom were not toxic.
Not all blue-green algae are the toxic kind. I've also seen much worse algae mats at Pyramid, entire coves that look like you can just walk across, but I also know they test the water every year, so I presume the previous year's bloom were not toxic.
There is a very unique look to the toxic algae. Now I did talk to someone yesterday that took a couple dives on a jet ski last week and he said he swallowed some water only to wake up the next day with Montezuma's so I'd refrain from drinking the water but I think that would be a "duh" statement.
Also although they test regularly every year it is more than possible based on my discussions that they have changed their rules on what is considered "toxic". Like Devo said it's not necessarily a bad thing, to say the least, when it comes to a fishing perspective but I don't trust the DWR at all and would not put anything past them.
DEVOREFLYER
08-04-2016, 11:42 AM
I would not be surprised to see in your/our lifetime all lakes and reservoirs in California to become Lake Mathews....
carpanglerdude
08-04-2016, 06:41 PM
I would not be surprised to see in your/our lifetime all lakes and reservoirs in California to become Lake Mathews....
That would awful. Can see what you mean though :/. And every creek shutoff like a certain one closed due to frogs.
News update folks:
http://www.pe.com/articles/lake-809828-algae-elsinore.html
Interesting that they blame the toxins on the dropping lake level at Elsinore. Silverwood is near full pool, was lowered after filling a couple weeks ago then brought back up last week. Seems to me the constant flushing would diminish the results of the drought when it comes to Silverwood. Also winds have been much greater than norm which it would seem would cause mixing and would diminish stagnant water. Now there are areas where shallower water promotes algae growth I would think so my thinking is that Silverwood does not represent the same conditions that would promote algae growth. Maybe the lack of natural rainfall that flushes all areas of the lake not falling in the last few years is the culprit or maybe like I said they've changed their parameters and like everything else in this world they are trying to protect us like little china dolls.
NevadaE
08-05-2016, 03:12 PM
I wouldn't trust the DWR. I think that they are making something up so that they have more control of the water in these lakes. I remember when Diamond Valley was constructed. They said that would be all kinds of water recreation when it was complete. After the lake was filled they set restrictions on body contact. No waterskiing,jetskiing,swimming,no sit on top kayaks and only sealed waders in floattubes. That kind of crap is why I call them Water Nazis. I am so glad that I moved out of state. Be on the look out for more restrictions on other lakes. California has a lot of great lakes and rivers. I visit them when I can but glad I don't have to deal with the politics.
sealclubber
08-05-2016, 07:29 PM
This is actually pretty surprising to me.I agree with seal,there have been a few seasons where throwing a spook or sammy resulted in drag breaking retrieves.
Work has kept me away from the lake and fishing the last few months,I was up there the other day and the water actually looked very clear with minimal grass hang ups......
They treated a few years ago when captain dipstick took over and remember fishing being horrible til fall.
JAG107
08-05-2016, 10:36 PM
Maybe they should add more mercury to the Wood to help kill off the algae...
Would sunken cars with batteries in the duct be a good source for the mercury levels already present in the fish, perhaps? :Secret:
Maybe they should add more mercury to the Wood to help kill off the algae...
Would sunken cars with batteries in the duct be a good source for the mercury levels already present in the fish, perhaps? :Secret:
That's what duct fishermen need, structure.
Now there's a fire above Silverwood. Started at Pilot rock went around lake on high ground above outhouse cove now it's progressing down to deep creek drainage area. White smoke now so they might be getting a handle on it. Don't know yet if Silverwood is closed headed that way in a couple minutes.
DEVOREFLYER
08-07-2016, 03:17 PM
350+ acres so far.
48848
Doubt there will be any access to Silverwood for a few days.
Silverwood lake is open but no boats are being allowed out on the lake. Tests yesterday came back BAD on toxins and no body contact concerns are causing them not to allow boats on the water. Even with the fire I was there yesterday checking it out, was amazed to see it open should have brought a rod. Sky is full of copters and planes and they are dipping into Silverwood everywhere, Miller, channel, outhouse cove, Chemise etc...
I wouldn't trust the DWR. I think that they are making something up so that they have more control of the water in these lakes. I remember when Diamond Valley was constructed. They said that would be all kinds of water recreation when it was complete. After the lake was filled they set restrictions on body contact. No waterskiing,jetskiing,swimming,no sit on top kayaks and only sealed waders in floattubes. That kind of crap is why I call them Water Nazis. I am so glad that I moved out of state. Be on the look out for more restrictions on other lakes. California has a lot of great lakes and rivers. I visit them when I can but glad I don't have to deal with the politics.
DWR (Department of Water Resources) has nothing to do with Diamond Valley operations or rules. Diamond Valley is a MWD (Metropolitan Water District of Southern California) facility. MWD has an allotment of water through the DWR and the State Water Project that they utilize to possibly bank in Diamond Valley.
NevadaE
08-10-2016, 03:36 PM
I stand corrected. However can someone answer why the public was told they would have all kinds of recreation on this water which included body contact(water skiing,jet skiing,swimming,etc.) and then when the project was complete the public was told no body contact?
I stand corrected. However can someone answer why the public was told they would have all kinds of recreation on this water which included body contact(water skiing,jet skiing,swimming,etc.) and then when the project was complete the public was told no body contact?
M.W.D. or D.W.R. they are interchangeable. They are in the business of water (and in some cases power generation) and have no desire to be in the recreation business. They will do anything to get their precious water (money) and if it means misleading the public for financial gain then they will do whatever they can get away with.
You are not wrong you just used the wrong initials.
carpanglerdude
08-11-2016, 07:26 PM
M.W.D. or D.W.R. they are interchangeable. They are in the business of water (and in some cases power generation) and have no desire to be in the recreation business. They will do anything to get their precious water (money) and if it means misleading the public for financial gain then they will do whatever they can get away with.
You are not wrong you just used the wrong initials.
Agreed. From what I've seen, one of the key challenges to continued angler access to bodies of water throughout California is various water departments. These "companies" seem to exist in some grey quasi-private area, and wield an enormous amount of control over various reservoirs and mountain streams, often on public land. Perhaps in other states they work with anglers, but it's not something I've seen here.