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DockRat
11-20-2015, 09:10 PM
The list is too long to type.

OMG we are doomed.


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parkermann2
11-21-2015, 10:12 AM
The thing is he is not an epic failure. He is not stupid he has done exactly what he wanted to do. He has successfully divided our nation racially, made citizens think police are the bad guys, and a number of other things.

Theos
11-21-2015, 12:27 PM
The list is too long to type.

OMG we are doomed.


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You expected too much.

etucker1959
11-21-2015, 04:07 PM
Do you really think President Trump would do a better job????? If Trump became president and did would most intelligent people think he would do. What is 3 steps lower then epic failure???????

TroutOnly
11-21-2015, 08:36 PM
...........please ,this muslim in christians clothing ,came as the savior and has done nothing but try to destroy this counrty ........a bullet isnt good enough for this pile of crap.............

Theos
11-21-2015, 11:44 PM
Do you really think President Trump would do a better job????? If Trump became president and did would most intelligent people think he would do. What is 3 steps lower then epic failure???????

Cut it out...

DockRat
11-22-2015, 09:29 PM
The Obama administration has been marred by debt, scandals, foreign policy failures, and an overall fragmentation of this country. He has plunged the United States into an abyss of economic debt that will create generations of American servitude paying off his wayward spending endeavors. The Red, White and Blue’s epitaph will read like a litany of failures perpetrated on both the American people and the world by this president:

Scandals:

IRS targets Obama’s enemies

Benghazi

Spying on the AP

The ATF “Fast and Furious” scheme

Sebelius demands payment

The Pigford Agriculture Department Scandal

The General Services Administration Las Vegas Spending Spree.

Veterans Affairs in Disney World and neglecting vets

Solyndra

10 The New Black Panthers Voter Intimidation

Waging war by attacking Libya without Congressional approval.

Biden bullies the press

I’ll pass my own laws

The hacking of Sharyl Attkisson’s computer

Obama’s LIES about the Affordable Care Act

NSA spying on American people

Foreign Policy

Lack of solidarity with Israel

Disaster with the Arab Spring

Crimea

Leaving Iraq too soon and letting ISIS take over

Handling of Syrian Red Line

Calling ISIS “JV”

Returning the bust of Churchill to the Brits

Lack of Confidence by NATA nations

Domestic Policy

Failure to secure the Border

Illegals bringing guns, drug and diseases through the southern border

Bowe Bergdahl swap

Passing on the keystone pipeline

8 Trillion dollars more in debt

Vast expansion of government

Racial Division at all-time high

Disrespect for Cops

Failed economic stimulus plan

Constant disregard for the Constitution and tyrannical rule

China overtook America as world’s largest economy

Double Downgrade

Housing policies failed to stop foreclosures

Price of healthcare has drastically risen for those purchasing it

Education policies failed to curb college costs

Highest percentage of Americans on Food Stamps and Medicaid

Record 92,898,000 Americans over 16 years not working

Lowest Labor Force participation rate of 62.7%

Denying the notion of American Exceptionalism

Securing the Olympics for Chicago in 2016

Naming numerous Communists/Socialists/Progressives to Czar Positions

DockRat
11-22-2015, 09:31 PM
Do you really think President Trump would do a better job????? If Trump became president and did would most intelligent people think he would do. What is 3 steps lower then epic failure???????


Who said we are talking about Trump ? Your drifting off topic Tucker ?

Do you feel Obama has done a good job ?

etucker1959
11-23-2015, 06:27 AM
Who said we are talking about Trump ? Your drifting off topic Tucker ?

Do you feel Obama has done a good job ?
Well that's a good question????

Let's look at the facts.

Employment rate is 5%

Gas is $2.50 a gallon

Obama Care is great!!!!!!

He prevented a depression.

The stock market is at an all time high.

Real Estate prices came back strong.

He did not take away our guns.

He did the best he could at getting out of middle east BS.

He Killed Bin Laden.

He is trying to work with the other nations on Global warning.

He is not panicking over immigration.

I will end with my opening statement. Which ones of the Republican CLOWNS who are running for President could or would do a better job then Obama!!!!!!!

TroutOnly
11-23-2015, 07:13 AM
.........dockrat take care of this dumbass............

etucker1959
11-23-2015, 09:03 AM
.........dockrat take care of this dumbass............
Yea right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol lol lol If would be really funny to see him try!!!!!!!!!! lol lol lol You know I like you DR, but man some of these other people!!!!! lol lol lol

seal
11-23-2015, 09:56 AM
Well that's a good question????

Let's look at the facts.

Employment rate is 5%

Gas is $2.50 a gallon

Obama Care is great!!!!!!

He prevented a depression.

The stock market is at an all time high.

Real Estate prices came back strong.

He did not take away our guns.

He did the best he could at getting out of middle east BS.

He Killed Bin Laden.

He is trying to work with the other nations on Global warning.

He is not panicking over immigration.

I will end with my opening statement. Which ones of the Republican CLOWNS who are running for President could or would do a better job then Obama!!!!!!!

Yes his oil policy is directly responsible for the lower prices. Yes he killed Obama, by himself I heard, with a BB gun, no wait that was one of your stories about shooting a lion or something. Glad he's not panicking over immigration or those pesky terrorists, no problem in his mind with either situation hence no panic. He didn't take our guns away because we wouldn't let him, the constitution sucks, gotta change that pesky document. He's so smart he figured out how to lower the unemployment rate, just keep everybody on the dole, who needs to work when big government gives you money not to and then everybody just gives up trying to get a gig, fk'n brilliant I tell ya!

Obamacare is great? Um not so much but I am glad he at least tried something, republicans status quo policy is more inept than Obamacare and that is written with no sarcasm unlike the rest of my post.

DarkShadow
11-23-2015, 10:41 AM
http://i.imgur.com/8KmviJO.jpg

Theos
11-23-2015, 11:34 AM
Well that's a good question????

Let's look at the facts.

Employment rate is 5%

Gas is $2.50 a gallon

Obama Care is great!!!!!!

He prevented a depression.

The stock market is at an all time high.

Real Estate prices came back strong.

He did not take away our guns.

He did the best he could at getting out of middle east BS.

He Killed Bin Laden.

He is trying to work with the other nations on Global warning.

He is not panicking over immigration.

I will end with my opening statement. Which ones of the Republican CLOWNS who are running for President could or would do a better job then Obama!!!!!!!

You can't be serious, you drank every drop of the Kool-Aid, the country is in turmoil, I would take the time to refute all of your demorat talking points but somehow I get the feeling that it would be a waste of time, enjoy your bliss.

etucker1959
11-23-2015, 01:23 PM
You can't be serious, you drank every drop of the Kool-Aid, the country is in turmoil, I would take the time to refute all of your demorat talking points but somehow I get the feeling that it would be a waste of time, enjoy your bliss.
Talking Points!!!!!!!! Name anything I wrote that isn't a FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

etucker1959
11-23-2015, 01:27 PM
http://i.imgur.com/8KmviJO.jpg
The sunken SUV is a symbol of the Republican controlled Congress. The floating boat is Obama being President!!!! lol

parkermann2
11-23-2015, 01:28 PM
Talking Points!!!!!!!! Name anything I wrote that isn't a FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

You stated Obama killed bin laden. I'm going to have to disagree on that one.

crappiemike
11-23-2015, 01:48 PM
You Know what we call Obama ,,,

The " The Wel-Fare President"



Cm

etucker1959
11-23-2015, 02:02 PM
You stated Obama killed bin laden. I'm going to have to disagree on that one.
Another victim to my logic!!!! lol He did order the killing of bin laden. If it would have been John McCain, McCain said he wouldn't violate Pakistani sovereign territory to get to bin laden. Obama didn't do the actual killing himself, but he gets the credit for doing it non the less. Now if you say, "if he didn't pull the trigger himself he didn't do anything." Then I'm sure you feel Charles Manson is being held unjustly for the Tate Laebanica murders. He didn't do any of the killings himself, but that sure didn't stop the people of LA trying to put a noose around his neck. They instead had to settle for Life imprisonment WITH NO CHANCE OF PAROLE!!!! They really mean that with him!!!!! NEXT VICTIM PLEASE!!!! lol

etucker1959
11-23-2015, 03:53 PM
Yes his oil policy is directly responsible for the lower prices. Yes he killed Obama, by himself I heard, with a BB gun, no wait that was one of your stories about shooting a lion or something. Glad he's not panicking over immigration or those pesky terrorists, no problem in his mind with either situation hence no panic. He didn't take our guns away because we wouldn't let him, the constitution sucks, gotta change that pesky document. He's so smart he figured out how to lower the unemployment rate, just keep everybody on the dole, who needs to work when big government gives you money not to and then everybody just gives up trying to get a gig, fk'n brilliant I tell ya!

Obamacare is great? Um not so much but I am glad he at least tried something, republicans status quo policy is more inept than Obamacare and that is written with no sarcasm unlike the rest of my post.
The sad part about the Obamacare is the Red states (Republican Governors) refusing to accept the Federal expanded Medicaid. This is no fault of Obama (stupid Supreme court ruling) Which denies the poorest citizens from receiving any Medical Insurance.

dpaulus9
11-23-2015, 04:08 PM
ok etucker....the killing of bin laden just happenned on his watch. any u.s. president would've made the same call. what about his call on trading those terrorist for that coward deserter? obama is and will always be a loser. just became president due to his color. just like clinton will win due to being a female.

bass413
11-23-2015, 04:37 PM
just like clinton will win due to being a female.

Then yeah, we are doomed.

etucker1959
11-23-2015, 05:10 PM
ok etucker....the killing of bin laden just happenned on his watch. any u.s. president would've made the same call. what about his call on trading those terrorist for that coward deserter? obama is and will always be a loser. just became president due to his color. just like clinton will win due to being a female.
I love when I get to give a history lesson. lol The killing of bin laden just happened on his watch. "Any U.S. President would've made the same call. In 2008 when candidate Obama was debating against candidate McCain a question was asked to both candidates. The question went like this, "if you knew the whereabouts of bin laden" but he was in a sovereign nation we were not warring in. Would you go after him without first getting the country's permission to do it. McCain said, "NO!!!" I wouldn't go after him without permission of that country. Obama said, "I would go kill that bastard regardless." In reality that's what we did, we didn't get Pakistani permission to go after him first for fear he would be tipped off. So if President McCain was in charge, "No dead bin laden." After about 6 years someone asked Bush about getting bin laden. I remember him say, "getting him is not really a priority of us anymore." So I think that statement of any U.S. President would make the same call is not true.

etucker1959
11-23-2015, 05:22 PM
I love when I get to give a history lesson. lol The killing of bin laden just happened on his watch. "Any U.S. President would've made the same call. In 2008 when candidate Obama was debating against candidate McCain a question was asked to both candidates. The question went like this, "if you knew the whereabouts of bin laden" but he was in a sovereign nation we were not warring in. Would you go after him without first getting the country's permission to do it. McCain said, "NO!!!" I wouldn't go after him without permission of that country. Obama said, "I would go kill that bastard regardless." In reality that's what we did, we didn't get Pakistani permission to go after him first for fear he would be tipped off. So if President McCain was in charge, "No dead bin laden." After about 6 years someone asked Bush about getting bin laden. I remember him say, "getting him is not really a priority of us anymore." So I think that statement of any U.S. President would make the same call is not true.

To answer the second question, Hillary will win because she is a women is a weak argument.

I don't think Hillary will win because she is a female. Otherwise the Republican candidate (Fiorina) who is a women would be doing much better. Hillary will win because she has more to offer then Trump, Carson, Bush, Rubio or Cruz!!!!!!

etucker1959
11-23-2015, 05:28 PM
Then yeah, we are doomed.
We would really be doomed if ANY of the front running Republican candidates wins!!!!!

dbfishing
11-24-2015, 09:51 AM
1. Hillary Clinton is a liar. I don’t mean this as political conjecture, but a proven, verifiable liar. She lied about the Irish peace process, her vote in favor of the Iraq war, her reason for illegally using a personal email server, that her family was dead broke when they left the White House, about landing under sniper fire in Bosnia, where Chelsea was on 9/11, who she was named after, Benghazi… and the list goes on. We don’t need a liar-in-chief. We tried that already. It didn’t work.

2. Hillary Clinton was MIA when the 3am phone call came from Benghazi. What difference does it make? The life of four Americans – a huge difference. The Russian Reset? Russia invaded Ukraine on her watch. Again. And again. And again. Hillary Clinton’s State Department refused to call it a terrorist organization.

3. Hillary Clinton defended a child rapist. And laughed about it.. She defended a child rapist… and laughed about it!

4. Hillary Clinton accepted millions of Dollars from foreign governments. While serving as Secretary of State, The Clinton Foundation (illegally) accepted boatloads of cash from countries that fund Hamas, harbor terrorists, suppress women, and regularly execute gays and lesbians. Conflict of interest much?

5. Hillary Clinton is endorsed by Barack Obama. (Although, given his track record, he may not have meant what he said about her being an “excellent choice” for President.) Ask your friends if they’re better off now than they were six years ago. Ask your friends if they like the direction the country is headed. If they answer “yes,” then they might actually legitimately like Hillary. But if they want some serious hope and change, they can’t vote for more of the same.

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6. Hillary Clinton wants women to shut up. At least all of the women who tried to come forward regarding her hubby’s sexual harassment, misogyny and overall perpetuation of “rape culture“. She referred to these victims as “trailer trash” and even went so far as to threaten one of the victims in person.

7. Hillary Clinton is not a champion of the middle class. Despite her campaign slogan, she is definitely not just like you. Hillary Clinton was married to a President, had a personal chef, flies in a environment polluting personal jet, has sent her daughter exclusively to private schools, and makes about $200K for every speaking engagement. That’s so you, right? And your middle-class neighbors – they’ve got a private jet out back, yeah?

etucker1959
11-24-2015, 11:56 AM
1. Hillary Clinton is a liar. I don’t mean this as political conjecture, but a proven, verifiable liar. She lied about the Irish peace process, her vote in favor of the Iraq war, her reason for illegally using a personal email server, that her family was dead broke when they left the White House, about landing under sniper fire in Bosnia, where Chelsea was on 9/11, who she was named after, Benghazi… and the list goes on. We don’t need a liar-in-chief. We tried that already. It didn’t work.

2. Hillary Clinton was MIA when the 3am phone call came from Benghazi. What difference does it make? The life of four Americans – a huge difference. The Russian Reset? Russia invaded Ukraine on her watch. Again. And again. And again. Hillary Clinton’s State Department refused to call it a terrorist organization.

3. Hillary Clinton defended a child rapist. And laughed about it.. She defended a child rapist… and laughed about it!

4. Hillary Clinton accepted millions of Dollars from foreign governments. While serving as Secretary of State, The Clinton Foundation (illegally) accepted boatloads of cash from countries that fund Hamas, harbor terrorists, suppress women, and regularly execute gays and lesbians. Conflict of interest much?

5. Hillary Clinton is endorsed by Barack Obama. (Although, given his track record, he may not have meant what he said about her being an “excellent choice” for President.) Ask your friends if they’re better off now than they were six years ago. Ask your friends if they like the direction the country is headed. If they answer “yes,” then they might actually legitimately like Hillary. But if they want some serious hope and change, they can’t vote for more of the same.

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6. Hillary Clinton wants women to shut up. At least all of the women who tried to come forward regarding her hubby’s sexual harassment, misogyny and overall perpetuation of “rape culture“. She referred to these victims as “trailer trash” and even went so far as to threaten one of the victims in person.

7. Hillary Clinton is not a champion of the middle class. Despite her campaign slogan, she is definitely not just like you. Hillary Clinton was married to a President, had a personal chef, flies in a environment polluting personal jet, has sent her daughter exclusively to private schools, and makes about $200K for every speaking engagement. That’s so you, right? And your middle-class neighbors – they’ve got a private jet out back, yeah?

Ok we get it, "you don't like Hillary!" Who do you like????? Please don't say I don't like anybody. Because if you don't like anybody would are we suppose to do then???????

parkermann2
11-24-2015, 01:19 PM
Ok we get it, "you don't like Hillary!" Who do you like????? Please don't say I don't like anybody. Because if you don't like anybody would are we suppose to do then???????

Where does it say we have to like one of them? We vote for the one who we think will do the best job even if we don't like them.

etucker1959
11-24-2015, 01:50 PM
Where does it say we have to like one of them? We vote for the one who we think will do the best job even if we don't like them.
Ok that's a very good answer. Have you made up your mind who you think will do the best job if elected????

DarkShadow
11-24-2015, 02:02 PM
Have you made up your mind who you think will do the best job if elected????

You just want someone to mention they're voting for Trump so that everyone here can point and laugh.

Just start a new thread if you want that. Title it, "Since Obama sucks, who are YOU voting for?" and watch it get no responses.

DockRat
11-24-2015, 03:04 PM
Yea right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol lol lol If would be really funny to see him try!!!!!!!!!! lol lol lol You know I like you DR, but man some of these other people!!!!! lol lol lol
Ok Tucker, you asked for it. :LOL:

Talking Points!!!!!!!! Name anything I wrote that isn't a FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
Here I go.


Well that's a good question????

Let's look at the facts.

Employment rate is 5%

There are more job openings available in America today than at any point since the Bureau of Labor Statistics first started tracking vacancy data back in December 2000. Yet the percentage of adult Americans working or actively looking for a job stands at 62.6 percent, the lowest level in nearly four decades.

Gas is $2.50 a gallon

Under $50 a barrel due to a slumping economy here and globally.

Obama Care is great!!!!!!

Did you ever sign up Tucker ? You said you would. My buddy died waiting for his Obamacare to replace his bad battery in his pacemaker. Your the only person that has said it is great. :LOL: People with good jobs pay more now.

He prevented a depression.

Lol, by borrowing this country into so much debt, Fed printing too much money. Prices going up on everything.

The stock market is at an all time high.

Not for long, wait for it, HUGE crash coming.

Real Estate prices came back strong.

Strong ? Lots of commercial rental signs up.

He did not take away our guns.

More gun/ammo laws now.

He did the best he could at getting out of middle east BS.

So many people killed, He let Iraq fall apart by pulling out too early. HUGE mess now, Isis is spreading.
The Middle East is falling apart.

He Killed Bin Laden. :ROFL:

He is trying to work with the other nations on Global warning.

Lol, China building coal fire plants everywhere.

He is not panicking over immigration.

:LOL: He wants illegals, more future Dem votes.

I will end with my opening statement. Which ones of the Republican CLOWNS who are running for President could or would do a better job then Obama!!!!!!!

Any one of the top five.

etucker1959
11-24-2015, 03:09 PM
You just want someone to mention they're voting for Trump so that everyone here can point and laugh.

Just start a new thread if you want that. Title it, "Since Obama sucks, who are YOU voting for?" and watch it get no responses.
Trump is a nobody to me!!! I think Rubio is going to get the nomination. But I am curious why all the Demo bashing when all of the Republican candidates are right out of a clown car. Can't these people see Obama and Hillary are the smartest kids in the room compared to those people!!!! Yet they keep bashing them without even realizing the other Republican choices are all a joke!!!!!!! A joke if elected are given the nuclear codes to hold for safe keeping. Now that is real scary!!!! 4 dead in Benghazi compared to what those fools could really do as Commander in Chief.

etucker1959
11-24-2015, 03:19 PM
Ok Tucker, you asked for it. :LOL:

Here I go.



Any one of the top five.
Good job DockRat!!!!!!! I didn't think you had it in you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DockRat
11-24-2015, 04:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSPpSjADZ7I

DockRat
11-24-2015, 04:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_YQ8560E1w

TroutOnly
11-24-2015, 07:02 PM
........you need to suck on Obama E-TARD..........

etucker1959
11-24-2015, 08:37 PM
........you need to suck on Obama E-TARD..........
I thought you learned your lesson and was going to stay out of the Drama!!!! lol

Theos
11-25-2015, 08:51 AM
Ok Tucker, you asked for it. :LOL:

Here I go.



Any one of the top five.

You're a patient person.

marc626
11-25-2015, 08:37 PM
I have to say that most of the Clinton supporters are not registered to vote. The online polls are very inaccurate assuming that she is the president elect. Obama was voted as the president elect because republicans voted for him. Many in fact of Clinton fans are stoned on "medicinal marijuana" 24/7. She denied the Benghazi attacks because the democratic party and their constituents don't want to admit that they are on the chopping block of radical Islam. Yes. Her email conversations are being read because she is not a civilian. She is so narcissistic not even realizing the fact that she has already lived in the white house for eight years. We live in a democracy. Not a dictatorship! If she is elected as president. She will become Queen Hillary. The republicans that in fact voted for Obama will not vote for Hillary. Guaranteed! She also failed to divorce her husband for adultery. If she can't run her own household. She is not qualified to run the United States of America.

etucker1959
11-25-2015, 09:48 PM
I have to say that most of the Clinton supporters are not registered to vote. The online polls are very inaccurate assuming that she is the president elect. Obama was voted as the president elect because republicans voted for him. Many in fact of Clinton fans are stoned on "medicinal marijuana" 24/7. She denied the Benghazi attacks because the democratic party and their constituents don't want to admit that they are on the chopping block of radical Islam. Yes. Her email conversations are being read because she is not a civilian. She is so narcissistic not even realizing the fact that she has already lived in the white house for eight years. We live in a democracy. Not a dictatorship! If she is elected as president. She will become Queen Hillary. The republicans that in fact voted for Obama will not vote for Hillary. Guaranteed! She also failed to divorce her husband for adultery. If she can't run her own household. She is not qualified to run the United States of America.
So I take it you're a Bernie Sanders kind of guy!!!! lol

georatm2011
11-26-2015, 12:30 AM
etucker don't bother replying to these guys, once your point is proven they'll begin to call you names, this is when you know they can't debate.

georatm2011
11-26-2015, 12:33 AM
This whole thread is an epic failure BTW, too many damn conservatives on this website. Just fish, hunt and STFU

HawgZWylde
11-26-2015, 07:27 AM
etucker don't bother replying to these guys, once your point is proven they'll begin to call you names, this is when you know they can't debate.


This whole thread is an epic failure BTW, too many damn conservatives on this website. Just fish, hunt and STFU

SILENCE!!!
You must not question the intentions of the far left's political correctness mandates. If you oppose the far left in any way, you will be branded a far right extremist and face arrest and institutionalization!

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Well Geo, you managed to bring me back on this site due to your rather totalitarian leaning post, congratulations! etucker is etucker and he did not prove anything and quite frankly most of the other posters on this thread are actually spot on. I find it quite telling that you indirectly use ridicule and ad hominem attack in order to discredit the majority of the other posters here without adding any reasonable debate to back up your assertions. The question begs can YOU debate the threads topic at hand?


Just fish, hunt and STFU

How odd you would command this of the other posters as it is the leftwing nutjobs who are mandating, regulating and banning your rights to fish and are demanding the disarmament of the civilian population in America. Are you going to hunt with pea shooters or rubber band guns?

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

tpfishnfool
11-26-2015, 08:36 AM
Obama makes the list as the worst leader we as a nation has ever had. Period...

DEVOREFLYER
11-26-2015, 08:55 AM
Obama makes the list as the worst leader we as a nation has ever had. Period...

This guy sums it up nicely: http://taxicabdepressions.com/
Leadership 101: How To Speak Like A President
Posted: 25th November 2015 by Taxi Hack in Uncategorized
Tags: Politics
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I was reading an ABC News/AP story a few days ago that said that the Russian military flew more than 500 sorties and destroyed more than 800 ISIS targets in just four days, as well as launching 101 cruise missiles from Russian naval ships. Six hundred ISIS scumbags were apparently sent to meet their 72 virgin goats in the afterlife in one strike alone. So it seems that the Russians have done more to defeat ISIS in FOUR DAYS than our President has done in two years.

Utterly disgraceful.

Say what you want about Vladimir Putin, but he is a LEADER, and when Islamic jihadists blow a passenger plane filled with Russian civilians out of the sky, he knows what happens next. He acts in a Presidential manner, and defends his citizens. Then Paris was struck with cowardly attacks around the city, and within days, French jets were pounding Raqqa. President Hollande didn’t ask permission, he didn’t send the matter to a committee, he didn’t consult polling numbers, he didn’t check in with the United Nations, and if he even bothered to “notify” anyone like the US or Russia, it was probably couched in terms of “stand the **** back.”

Presidente Hollande acted Presidentially. For years, Americans have ridiculed the French as “cheese-eating surrender monkeys”, and I saw a British taxi driver I follow on Twitter refer to us as, “The United States Of America Chicken Wing Eating Surrender Monkeys”.

Touche’. Thanks to Obama, we had that coming.

This is at least part of the reason that Trump’s message is resonating with Americans. Trump isn’t my guy, but his message of “Make America great again” strikes a chord with patriotic Americans, even myself. No one in the world respects America anymore, certainly no one respects this President, and that is why the Iranians are surging toward nuclear weapons, Russia has seized territory in Ukraine, ISIS has indeed gone from the “jay-vee squad” to the Harlem Globetrotters, and China is building airstrips in the China Sea and hacking US computer systems with impunity. They look at Obama and see a giant pussy, more concerned with his “image” and “legacy” than US strategic interests, and they know they won’t likely see another US President this weak again, so they are moving NOW, while they can, before this feckless and inept President is removed from office.

I find nothing presidential about Obama, aside from his car, his plane, and his address. Jimmy Carter was a geopolitical genius compared to this clown. For all their flaws, Bill Clinton, Lyndon Johnson, and Jack Kennedy were giants compared to this idiot. At least none of those Democrat Presidents openly despised their country. But Obama, when questioned about his failures, gets touchy and indignant and blames others, usually Republicans, for his failures and his weakness, making himself look even smaller on the world stage. Barack Obama is a petulant child, in over his head, flailing about and hoping he can somehow come up with some rhetorical device that will lay the blame for his mess at someone else’s feet. Blaming Bush used to work, but it just isn’t working any more.

I sometimes sit in utter astonishment, just thunderstruck that I am living through the administration of the worst President in American history. James Buchanan will be ranked above Obama in 20 years, if the nation survives him. Obama doesn’t side with law enforcement, he sides with criminals like Travon Martin and Mike Brown and #BlackLivesMatter. Obama doesn’t side with Israel, he sides with Iran. Obama doesn’t support our veterans, he allows the VA to neglect them, and is perfectly OK with giant bonuses being paid to the administrators and bureaucrats overseeing that neglect. His IRS attacks conservatives, his Justice Department engages in illegal gunrunning, his EPA causes catastrophic environmental disasters, and no one ever gets fired, or even demoted. Obama attacks and disparages Christians and conservatives and law-abiding gun owners as a matter of course. Obama spews nonsense about global warming being the greatest threat we face, and then moves to allow thousands of unvetted Muslim refugees into our country, when ISIS has stated publicly that their strategy to get terrorists into Western nations is to blend in with refugees. He views his fellow citizens as his enemies, moreso than savages shooting up cafe’s in Paris and chopping off peoples’ heads.

etucker1959
11-26-2015, 09:56 AM
SILENCE!!!
You must not question the intentions of the far left's political correctness mandates. If you oppose the far left in any way, you will be branded a far right extremist and face arrest and institutionalization!

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Well Geo, you managed to bring me back on this site due to your rather totalitarian leaning post, congratulations! etucker is etucker and he did not prove anything and quite frankly most of the other posters on this thread are actually spot on. I find it quite telling that you indirectly use ridicule and ad hominem attack in order to discredit the majority of the other posters here without adding any reasonable debate to back up your assertions. The question begs can YOU debate the threads topic at hand?



How odd you would command this of the other posters as it is the leftwing nutjobs who are mandating, regulating and banning your rights to fish and are demanding the disarmament of the civilian population in America. Are you going to hunt with pea shooters or rubber band guns?

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
That was a dramatic opening!!! (I liked it) I'm glad to see you back, I missed our little debates!! I've got a question for you. You've said in previous threads that you thought the Obamcare would unravel when the employer mandates kick in in 2016. Is this going to happen fast enough to hurt Hillary's chances to become President???? Or this will be a long slow death for Obamcare?????

etucker1959
11-26-2015, 10:00 AM
Obama makes the list as the worst leader we as a nation has ever had. Period...
I think most historians would disagree!!! But what do those pointy headed intellectuals know!!!! lol

etucker1959
11-26-2015, 12:41 PM
This guy sums it up nicely: http://taxicabdepressions.com/
Leadership 101: How To Speak Like A President
Posted: 25th November 2015 by Taxi Hack in Uncategorized
Tags: Politics
1

I was reading an ABC News/AP story a few days ago that said that the Russian military flew more than 500 sorties and destroyed more than 800 ISIS targets in just four days, as well as launching 101 cruise missiles from Russian naval ships. Six hundred ISIS scumbags were apparently sent to meet their 72 virgin goats in the afterlife in one strike alone. So it seems that the Russians have done more to defeat ISIS in FOUR DAYS than our President has done in two years.

Utterly disgraceful.

Say what you want about Vladimir Putin, but he is a LEADER, and when Islamic jihadists blow a passenger plane filled with Russian civilians out of the sky, he knows what happens next. He acts in a Presidential manner, and defends his citizens. Then Paris was struck with cowardly attacks around the city, and within days, French jets were pounding Raqqa. President Hollande didn’t ask permission, he didn’t send the matter to a committee, he didn’t consult polling numbers, he didn’t check in with the United Nations, and if he even bothered to “notify” anyone like the US or Russia, it was probably couched in terms of “stand the **** back.”

Presidente Hollande acted Presidentially. For years, Americans have ridiculed the French as “cheese-eating surrender monkeys”, and I saw a British taxi driver I follow on Twitter refer to us as, “The United States Of America Chicken Wing Eating Surrender Monkeys”.

Touche’. Thanks to Obama, we had that coming.

This is at least part of the reason that Trump’s message is resonating with Americans. Trump isn’t my guy, but his message of “Make America great again” strikes a chord with patriotic Americans, even myself. No one in the world respects America anymore, certainly no one respects this President, and that is why the Iranians are surging toward nuclear weapons, Russia has seized territory in Ukraine, ISIS has indeed gone from the “jay-vee squad” to the Harlem Globetrotters, and China is building airstrips in the China Sea and hacking US computer systems with impunity. They look at Obama and see a giant pussy, more concerned with his “image” and “legacy” than US strategic interests, and they know they won’t likely see another US President this weak again, so they are moving NOW, while they can, before this feckless and inept President is removed from office.

I find nothing presidential about Obama, aside from his car, his plane, and his address. Jimmy Carter was a geopolitical genius compared to this clown. For all their flaws, Bill Clinton, Lyndon Johnson, and Jack Kennedy were giants compared to this idiot. At least none of those Democrat Presidents openly despised their country. But Obama, when questioned about his failures, gets touchy and indignant and blames others, usually Republicans, for his failures and his weakness, making himself look even smaller on the world stage. Barack Obama is a petulant child, in over his head, flailing about and hoping he can somehow come up with some rhetorical device that will lay the blame for his mess at someone else’s feet. Blaming Bush used to work, but it just isn’t working any more.

I sometimes sit in utter astonishment, just thunderstruck that I am living through the administration of the worst President in American history. James Buchanan will be ranked above Obama in 20 years, if the nation survives him. Obama doesn’t side with law enforcement, he sides with criminals like Travon Martin and Mike Brown and #BlackLivesMatter. Obama doesn’t side with Israel, he sides with Iran. Obama doesn’t support our veterans, he allows the VA to neglect them, and is perfectly OK with giant bonuses being paid to the administrators and bureaucrats overseeing that neglect. His IRS attacks conservatives, his Justice Department engages in illegal gunrunning, his EPA causes catastrophic environmental disasters, and no one ever gets fired, or even demoted. Obama attacks and disparages Christians and conservatives and law-abiding gun owners as a matter of course. Obama spews nonsense about global warming being the greatest threat we face, and then moves to allow thousands of unvetted Muslim refugees into our country, when ISIS has stated publicly that their strategy to get terrorists into Western nations is to blend in with refugees. He views his fellow citizens as his enemies, moreso than savages shooting up cafe’s in Paris and chopping off peoples’ heads.
You did point out a lot of things Obama shouldn't be very proud of, however how will history look at him compared to other Presidents. Let's look at some other unpopular Presidents, or some Presidents that had something REAL TERIBBLE happen on their watch. Then try to compare that to Obama's Presidency.

Let's go back to the 1850's. You had 4 terrible Presidents in a row cumulating with Buchanan. Taylor died after 1 year in office and was replaced by Mildred Fillmore. Fillmore was soo bad they now have a society named after him to promote his incompetency as President. He then was followed by President Pierce another do nothing President. Then we have Buchanan, he was the President when the South succeeded from the Union and had no idea what to do about it. After Lincoln we had Johnson, he was so unliked he was impeached. He was then followed by Grant who himself wasn't a crook, but all his friends were and they got Rich and he was left holding the bag. Wilson said, "I'll keep us out of War." Then after winning his re-election promptly changed his mind and declared War on Germany. Then you had Harding who will always be linked to the Tea Pot dome scandal. Then Hoover rolls around and the Great depression happens and he is totally clueless as what to do to fight it. Then let's jump over to Johnson who put us in an unwinnable war in Vietnam (50,000 dead Americans) (hundreds of thousands wounded) and we still lost. Then we have Nixon who resigned over Watergate. Carter made us feel bad to be an American!!!! Then we have Clinton with a sex scandal and then Bush. Which we don't even need to talk about Bush!!! Now how does Obama compare to some of those guy's. I don't think it's FAIR to call him the worst President EVER!!!! History might not rank him very high, but if you think what he did compared to other's in the past makes him the worst. You are comparing a Mountain to a Mole Hill!!!!!!

Ssortasober
11-28-2015, 11:45 AM
Let's talk about bush

etucker1959
11-28-2015, 12:36 PM
Let's talk about bush
In no particular order.

1. The Iraqi war and the waterboarding of prisoners. (Obama got us out and stopped the practice)

2. His insensitivity to how he handled the people from Hurricane Katarina.

3. His paid for prescription drugs on Medicare without coming up with a way to fund it.

4. His Failure to kill bin ladin. (Obama did)

5. What he started in Afghanistan with no end game.

6. The economy when he left office was near going into a depression. (Obama saved us)

7. The lack of any major accomplishment besides war with his fingerprints on it. (Obama has Obama Care)

8. His belief that marriage is only between a man and a women.

Do I really need to go on indefinitely?????? lol

HawgZWylde
11-28-2015, 01:30 PM
Sortasober
Why, are you voting for him?

Lady Quagga
11-28-2015, 11:06 PM
SILENCE!!!
You must not question the intentions of the far left's political correctness mandates. If you oppose the far left in any way, you will be branded a far right extremist and face arrest and institutionalization!

How amusing it took a muddled post to break your addled silence. We can always count on you to lower your own bar.


Sortasober
Why, are you voting for him?

I'm pretty sure he was talking about the past epic failure GDub, not the potential future epic failure Jed.

Welcome back sunshine. I look forward to dealing with your miserable nonsense again.

Theos
11-29-2015, 01:01 AM
How amusing it took a muddled post to break your addled silence. We can always count on you to lower your own bar.



I'm pretty sure he was talking about the past epic failure GDub, not the potential future epic failure Jed.

Welcome back sunshine. I look forward to dealing with your miserable nonsense again.

Living in the past again ?

Obama has to own his issues, when was the last time you gave the average black man a break for not doing his or any job ?

Ssortasober
11-29-2015, 07:53 AM
I'm not voting for Bush and never have, any of those clowns. My attempt to be funny. It didn't work, hostile and aggressive is what this site understands, I'll be more pissy with my next post. My generation is getting ****** and my kids are worse off than me, let's lower the tax rate on dividends I feel bad for rich guys paying 13%. Bunch of whinny assholes, is that better. You right wing assclowns ****** yourselves in the past, why would anyone elect any of those candidates? I'm independent, a free thinker and won't be pigeonhold into voting for a specific party, I'm going to evaluate whose going to the best job as president, and vote accordingly. You guys can vote for your favorite color red or blue. I can't believe your vote counts the same as mine, one things for sure I do vote.

HawgZWylde
11-29-2015, 07:58 AM
How amusing it took a muddled post to break your addled silence. We can always count on you to lower your own bar.



I'm pretty sure he was talking about the past epic failure GDub, not the potential future epic failure Jed.

Welcome back sunshine. I look forward to dealing with your miserable nonsense again.

I got jealous when I read about you getting busted stalking M.O. while hanging out in that tree in front of his business.
47313

How long did they keep you locked up in the 5150 pen Darlin? I was truly worried about you!

HawgZWylde
11-29-2015, 08:02 AM
Living in the past again ?

Obama has to own his issues, when was the last time you gave the average black man a break for not doing his or any job ?

Meh, pay no attention to her Theos, she's the resident troll/stalker. See if you can find a single post where she is actually fishing...

DEVOREFLYER
11-29-2015, 12:20 PM
I’m not so sure you’re even close to being sorta sober. Let’s look at some facts. First those dividends were issued to stockholders that purchased the company’s stock with AFTER TAX money with no guarantee of growth to their investment. Second those dividends paid were taxed at 35% by the government to the company’s that paid the dividend. Third for 2014, the tax rate on qualified dividends was between 0 and 20 percent, the same rate as long-term capital gains, reports the Internal Revenue Service. The government taxed nonqualified dividends at the taxpayer’s nominal tax rate, from 0 to 39.6 percent. Your RICH got taxed at the highest rate plus an additional 3.8% investment income tax.

Before we start talking about taxing the rich or anyone for that matter how about cutting some government waste. Here are only 50 examples for a start.

1. The federal government made at least $72 billion in improper payments in 2008.
2. Washington spends $92 billion on corporate welfare (excluding TARP) versus $71 billion on homeland security.
3. Washington spends $25 billion annually maintaining unused or vacant federal properties.
4. Government auditors spent the past five years examining all federal programs and found that 22 percent of them -- costing taxpayers a total of $123 billion annually -- fail to show any positive impact on the populations they serve.
5. The Congressional Budget Office published a "Budget Options" series identifying more than $100 billion in potential spending cuts.
6. Examples from multiple Government Accountability Office (GAO) reports of wasteful duplication include 342 economic development programs; 130 programs serving the disabled; 130 programs serving at-risk youth; 90 early childhood development programs; 75 programs funding international education, cultural, and training exchange activities; and 72 safe water programs.
7. Washington will spend $2.6 million training Chinese prostitutes to drink more responsibly on the job.
8. A GAO audit classified nearly half of all purchases on government credit cards as improper, fraudulent, or embezzled. Examples of taxpayer-funded purchases include gambling, mortgage payments, liquor, lingerie, iPods, Xboxes, jewelry, Internet dating services, and Hawaiian vacations. In one extraordinary example, the Postal Service spent $13,500 on one dinner at a Ruth's Chris Steakhouse, including "over 200 appetizers and over $3,000 of alcohol, including more than 40 bottles of wine costing more than $50 each and brand-name liquor such as Courvoisier, Belvedere and Johnny Walker Gold." The 81 guests consumed an average of $167 worth of food and drink apiece.
9. Federal agencies are delinquent on nearly 20 percent of employee travel charge cards, costing taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars annually.
10. The Securities and Exchange Commission spent $3.9 million rearranging desks and offices at its Washington, D.C., headquarters.
11. The Pentagon recently spent $998,798 shipping two 19-cent washers from South Carolina to Texas and $293,451 sending an 89-cent washer from South Carolina to Florida.
12. Over half of all farm subsidies go to commercial farms, which report average household incomes of $200,000.
13. Health care fraud is estimated to cost taxpayers more than $60 billion annually.
14. A GAO audit found that 95 Pentagon weapons systems suffered from a combined $295 billion in cost overruns.
15. The refusal of many federal employees to fly coach costs taxpayers $146 million annually in flight upgrades.
16. Washington will spend $126 million in 2009 to enhance the Kennedy family legacy in Massachusetts. Additionally, Senator John Kerry (D-MA) diverted $20 million from the 2010 defense budget to subsidize a new Edward M. Kennedy Institute.
17. Federal investigators have launched more than 20 criminal fraud investigations related to the TARP financial bailout.
18. Despite trillion-dollar deficits, last year's 10,160 earmarks included $200,000 for a tattoo removal program in Mission Hills, California; $190,000 for the Buffalo Bill Historical Center in Cody, Wyoming; and $75,000 for the Totally Teen Zone in Albany, Georgia.
19. The federal government owns more than 50,000 vacant homes.
20. The Federal Communications Commission spent $350,000 to sponsor NASCAR driver David Gilliland.
21. Members of Congress have spent hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars supplying their offices with popcorn machines, plasma televisions, DVD equipment, ionic air fresheners, camcorders, and signature machines -- plus $24,730 leasing a Lexus, $1,434 on a digital camera, and $84,000 on personalized calendars.
22. More than $13 billion in Iraq aid has been classified as wasted or stolen. Another $7.8 billion cannot be accounted for.
23. Fraud related to Hurricane Katrina spending is estimated to top $2 billion. In addition, debit cards provided to hurricane victims were used to pay for Caribbean vacations, NFL tickets, Dom Perignon champagne, "Girls Gone Wild" videos, and at least one sex change operation.
24. Auditors discovered that 900,000 of the 2.5 million recipients of emergency Katrina assistance provided false names, addresses, or Social Security numbers or submitted multiple applications.
25. Congress recently gave Alaska Airlines $500,000 to paint a Chinook salmon on a Boeing 737.
26. The Transportation Department will subsidize up to $2,000 per flight for direct flights between Washington, D.C., and the small hometown of Congressman Hal Rogers (R-KY) -- but only on Monday mornings and Friday evenings, when lawmakers, staff, and lobbyists usually fly. Rogers is a member of the Appropriations Committee, which writes the Transportation Department's budget.
27. Washington has spent $3 billion re-sanding beaches -- even as this new sand washes back into the ocean.
28. A Department of Agriculture report concedes that much of the $2.5 billion in "stimulus" funding for broadband Internet will be wasted.
29. The Defense Department wasted $100 million on unused flight tickets and never bothered to collect refunds even though the tickets were refundable.
30. Washington spends $60,000 per hour shooting Air Force One photo-ops in front of national landmarks.
31. Over one recent 18-month period, Air Force and Navy personnel used government-funded credit cards to charge at least $102,400 on admission to entertainment events, $48,250 on gambling, $69,300 on cruises, and $73,950 on exotic dance clubs and prostitutes.
32. Members of Congress are set to pay themselves $90 million to increase their franked mailings for the 2010 election year.
33. Congress has ignored efficiency recommendations from the Department of Health and Human Services that would save $9 billion annually.
34. Taxpayers are funding paintings of high-ranking government officials at a cost of up to $50,000 apiece.
35. The state of Washington sent $1 food stamp checks to 250,000 households in order to raise state caseload figures and trigger $43 million in additional federal funds.
36. Suburban families are receiving large farm subsidies for the grass in their backyards -- subsidies that many of these families never requested and do not want.
37. Congress appropriated $20 million for "commemoration of success" celebrations related to Iraq and Afghanistan.
38. Homeland Security employee purchases include 63-inch plasma TVs, iPods, and $230 for a beer brewing kit.
39. Two drafting errors in the 2005 Deficit Reduction Act resulted in a $2 billion taxpayer cost.
40. North Ridgeville, Ohio, received $800,000 in "stimulus" funds for a project that its mayor described as "a long way from the top priority."
41. The National Institutes of Health spends $1.3 million per month to rent a lab that it cannot use.
42. Congress recently spent $2.4 billion on 10 new jets that the Pentagon insists it does not need and will not use.
43. Lawmakers diverted $13 million from Hurricane Katrina relief spending to build a museum celebrating the Army Corps of Engineers -- the agency partially responsible for the failed levees that flooded New Orleans.
44. Medicare officials recently mailed $50 million in erroneous refunds to 230,000 Medicare recipients.
45. Audits showed $34 billion worth of Department of Homeland Security contracts contained significant waste, fraud, and abuse.
46. Washington recently spent $1.8 million to help build a private golf course in Atlanta, Georgia.
47. The Advanced Technology Program spends $150 million annually subsidizing private businesses; 40 percent of this funding goes to Fortune 500 companies.
48. Congressional investigators were able to receive $55,000 in federal student loan funding for a fictional college they created to test the Department of Education.
49. The Conservation Reserve program pays farmers $2 billion annually not to farm their land.
50. The Commerce Department has lost 1,137 computers since 2001, many containing Americans' personal data.

Lady Quagga
11-29-2015, 12:59 PM
Living in the past again ?

No, not living in the past, simply clarifying an earlier post.


Obama has to own his issues, when was the last time you gave the average black man a break for not doing his or any job ?

About the same time I gave a less-than-average white man a break for the same thing.


I got jealous when I read about you getting busted stalking M.O. while hanging out in that tree in front of his business.
47313

How long did they keep you locked up in the 5150 pen Darlin? I was truly worried about you!

I suppose this was your pathetic attempt at topical humor.

Of course it's no surprise you get jealous of a 5150'd stalker - just one more example of you lowering your own bar.


Meh, pay no attention to her Theos, she's the resident troll/stalker. See if you can find a single post where she is actually fishing...

Ah yes, more boo-hooing from Hawggy. More hypocritical "troll" remarks, followed up with the same failed "no fishing posts" argument. Once again, you're living proof that fishing posts don't reflect intelligence or cohesive thought.

Lady Quagga
11-29-2015, 01:11 PM
I’m not so sure you’re even close to being sorta sober.

[snip wall of text]



Dev, are you ever going to post original, current thoughts of your own, instead of resorting to agenda-driven, six-year-old Heritage Foundation blogs? You can find plenty wall-of-text posts supporting both conservative and progressive agendas, both present and past.

Granted, your method requires very little effort (or independent thought), so it's no surprise you took that route.

Ssortasober
11-29-2015, 05:32 PM
All those tax laws sound convoluted and confusing, you need an algorithm just to work out how much tax you should pay. I used the 13% number because that's what Mitt Romney said he paid in taxes during his failed campaign. He made his money off dividends. Do you know how much I made in dividends? Ever? Why not a flat tax without any tax breaks? What I do know is I make an ok living working at the same hospital for the last 17 years, I graduated without any student debt. Now with my wife's student debt and my son away in school, 40% of my income goes to student debt. Your generation didn't amass this kind of debt. This generation is in deep trouble with student debt. I'm not going to insult you or badmouth you for your opinion, it's just a different perspective. Your ideas are different than mine. That's it. Don't like social programs? Stop cashing your social security checks. Equal opportunity should be available, it's not. Tax all income equally no tax breaks, capital gains, dividends, income. Why am I paying 33% of my income? In another generation or two your perspective will go the way of the dinosaurs. Your kids kids won't be talking the way you do, well armed militia, seriously? Need one in Devore do you?

BlueGillChaser
11-29-2015, 06:22 PM
why are you back?

Dev, are you ever going to post original, current thoughts of your own, instead of resorting to agenda-driven, six-year-old Heritage Foundation blogs? You can find plenty wall-of-text posts supporting both conservative and progressive agendas, both present and past.

Granted, your method requires very little effort (or independent thought), so it's no surprise you took that route.

DockRat
11-29-2015, 08:13 PM
Welcome back LQ, this board has been a little slow.
Time for a good old dose of DR stirring up the pot. :Death2Above:

Any predictions on the GOP nomination ?

etucker1959
11-29-2015, 10:14 PM
Welcome back LQ, this board has been a little slow.
Time for a good old dose of DR stirring up the pot. :Death2Above:

Any predictions on the GOP nomination ?
Let me give my logic on the GOP nomination. You can eliminate Carson right off the bat. Why???? After Obama we won't see another Black nominee for awhile. (especially from the GOP) Is Trump real or not????? In the long run, I can't imagine he really is!!!! Well who does that now leave. Some have already dropped out, of those who are still remaining and have the pedigree. I think it will be Rubio!!!!!

etucker1959
11-30-2015, 10:14 AM
Welcome back LQ, this board has been a little slow.
Time for a good old dose of DR stirring up the pot. :Death2Above:

Any predictions on the GOP nomination ?
The board has been a little slow so I thought this would be a good,

time for a good dose of DR stirring up the pot!!!!

If I remember correctly, didn't you vote in the infamous poll. That you thought the GD political debates were detrimental to this website????? "WHAT ARE YOU A FLIPFLOPPER!!!!" lol

Sorry I couldn't help myself!!!!!! Things have been a little slow on the board!!!! lol lol lol

DarkShadow
11-30-2015, 05:01 PM
dev, are you ever going to post original, current thoughts of your own, instead of resorting to agenda-driven, six-year-old heritage foundation blogs? You can find plenty wall-of-text posts supporting both conservative and progressive agendas, both present and past.

Granted, your method requires very little effort (or independent thought), so it's no surprise you took that route.


silence!!!!

Lady Quagga
11-30-2015, 05:04 PM
why are you back?

For the Hickory Farms samples, of course.

http://demandware.edgesuite.net/sits_pod21/dw/image/v2/AAOA_PRD/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-Web-Master-Catalog/default/dw1f65fe63/images/products/000026v1.jpg?sw=556&sh=680&sm=fit

Lady Quagga
11-30-2015, 05:08 PM
silence!!!!

Yeah, because that worked so well for Hawggy and this guy:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CcrY44Cagzk/UlxEPdNHXjI/AAAAAAAAOY8/OB047Mywfqc/s1600/the-exorcist-merrin-regan.jpg

Lady Quagga
11-30-2015, 05:44 PM
Welcome back LQ, this board has been a little slow.
Time for a good old dose of DR stirring up the pot. :Death2Above:

Any predictions on the GOP nomination ?

Unfortunately, barring an unusually strong showing from the remaining candidates, a mass awakening from the Republican sheep, or an epically colossal blunder, we may very well see Trump on the ticket.

I have some Republican friends - mostly moderate, but a few devout conservatives - who are just now having their "oh *****" realizations at this possibility. They've come to realize that this man has nothing to offer beyond "deport them all" speeches and a slogan with about as much substance as Pizza Hut's "Makin' it great!" advertising campaign.

TroutOnly
11-30-2015, 06:10 PM
this is for you e-tard and youre ***** ,the troll-hag that came out of her cave...............
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etucker1959
11-30-2015, 06:13 PM
this is for you e-tard and youre ***** ,the troll-hag that came out of her cave...............
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp113/troutonly/DSCN0788xxxxxxxxxx-----------1111111111111111-------------5555555555555555.jpg (http://s403.photobucket.com/user/troutonly/media/DSCN0788xxxxxxxxxx-----------1111111111111111-------------5555555555555555.jpg.html)
You are such a class act!!!!!!!!!!!!! If I was one of your friends I would turn into an apostle. You know in the Bible story when the Roman soldiers ask if they knew Jesus. Their answer was, "I know not this man!!!!!!"

DockRat
11-30-2015, 06:18 PM
Any predictions on the GOP nomination ?

So LQ predicts Trump to ride his Segway into the White House. (Take note folks).

Unfortunately, barring an unusually strong showing from the remaining candidates, a mass awakening from the Republican sheep, or an epically colossal blunder, we may very well see Trump on the ticket.


http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx48/EnglishPete_bucket/donaldtrump.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/user/EnglishPete_bucket/media/donaldtrump.jpg.html)

After Obama we won't see another Black nominee for awhile.
Zach said that in 2014. Go to 1:15 in the video. :LOL: Check it out ETucker.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnW3xkHxIEQ

WE May See Trump? " May " OK LQ you CYA with the word " May "

Hold on to your panties people.
DR

Lady Quagga
11-30-2015, 09:31 PM
Dammit, who drank all....

https://whiskyburger.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/lake-taupo2.jpg

Lady Quagga
11-30-2015, 09:35 PM
So LQ predicts Trump to ride his Segway into the White House. (Take note folks).

No, LQ does not predict Trump will do any such thing. Only that he may very well end up on the GoP ticket.

pcuser
12-01-2015, 10:57 AM
this is for you e-tard and youre ***** ,the troll-hag that came out of her cave...............
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp113/troutonly/DSCN0788xxxxxxxxxx-----------1111111111111111-------------5555555555555555.jpg (http://s403.photobucket.com/user/troutonly/media/DSCN0788xxxxxxxxxx-----------1111111111111111-------------5555555555555555.jpg.html)

I see you're showing your typical class...

coors
12-01-2015, 04:13 PM
Trump is the only candidate that will let you park in his parking lot so you can go fishing.
so naturally everyone on this forum should support him...

DarkShadow
12-01-2015, 04:25 PM
.........dockrat take care of this dumbass............

DockRat getting ready to take care of the dumbasses:

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/11981/the-full-monkey-o.gif

Lady Quagga
12-01-2015, 04:52 PM
this is for you e-tard and youre ***** ,the troll-hag that came out of her cave...............
http://i403.photobucket.com/albums/pp113/troutonly/DSCN0788xxxxxxxxxx-----------1111111111111111-------------5555555555555555.jpg (http://s403.photobucket.com/user/troutonly/media/DSCN0788xxxxxxxxxx-----------1111111111111111-------------5555555555555555.jpg.html)


I see you're showing your typical class...

Don't mind him - he obviously confused me with those troll-hags he fishes with.

TroutOnly
12-02-2015, 07:42 AM
...........oh wah........the little bitches are upset.........you wouldn't know what class was if it came up and bit you on youre p/c ***................

etucker1959
12-02-2015, 08:56 AM
...........oh wah........the little bitches are upset.........you wouldn't know what class was if it came up and bit you on youre p/c ***................
By your definition of class, if you disagree with someone it's ok to say FY!!! Even though the conversation was being conducted in a polite manner!!!! Someone needs to learn you some manners!!!!! Obviously you have none and you don't even see that you don't!!!!! This might be a good time for an INTERVENTION of some of your friends to say, "Bob knock it off."

TroutOnly
12-02-2015, 09:09 PM
...........sorry I have no politeness or respect for the general discussion trolls....especially when you spew youre brainwashed p/c crap..............

etucker1959
12-02-2015, 10:06 PM
...........sorry I have no politeness or respect for the general discussion trolls....especially when you spew youre brainwashed p/c crap..............
Who are you calling a Troll???????? A Troll by definition is someone who is there only to cause trouble and contribute nothing of real value to a website. If you go back to Jan 1 2015 to the present I've written 16 fish reports in the Partyboat section. The next highest reporter after me wrote 4 and that was done by DockRat. I won't even mention how many fish reports I've written in the Freshwater section. I think if you add up all my fish reports I've written this year, I'm the number 1 reporter who is not a paid sponsor!!!!!!! So once again who are you calling a Troll!! Why don't you just quit while you're behind!!!!!!!

TroutOnly
12-03-2015, 10:47 AM
.........I wont mention the hundreds and hundreds of reports ive done since the birth of this website ,with pictures for proof of what and where it happened.............it seems in this modern world someone should be able to post a picture ....as my old friend fear-no-trout would say is a report without pics is just another fish story...........im sorry youre having trouble admitting youre a troll..........

etucker1959
12-03-2015, 12:04 PM
.........I wont mention the hundreds and hundreds of reports ive done since the birth of this website ,with pictures for proof of what and where it happened.............it seems in this modern world someone should be able to post a picture ....as my old friend fear-no-trout would say is a report without pics is just another fish story...........im sorry youre having trouble admitting youre a troll..........
I'll tell you what old man, why don't we ask anyone else on this board if they think I'm a Troll?????????

Lady Quagga
12-03-2015, 01:08 PM
.........I wont mention the hundreds and hundreds of reports ive done since the birth of this website ,with pictures for proof of what and where it happened.............it seems in this modern world someone should be able to post a picture ....as my old friend fear-no-trout would say is a report without pics is just another fish story...........im sorry youre having trouble admitting youre a troll..........

Being the authority on trolling umbrella rigs from garbage scows doesn't make one any more qualified or entitled to post on non-fishing topics here in......wait for it......General Discussion. Whether you've posted zero fishing posts or a thousand carries absolutely no weight in GenDis, no matter how much you stamp your feet. That bullsh!t excuse didn't fly when Hawggy tried it, and it ain't it gonna fly now. Deal with it, sunshine.

TroutOnly
12-03-2015, 04:24 PM
.see you later troll-hag ,its time to go fishin ,,,,,,,,,,instead of cyber trolling...........

Lady Quagga
12-03-2015, 04:52 PM
troll-hag

As I said, you must have me confused with the troll-hags you take out on your boat.

But go on, quit while you're behind.

TroutOnly
12-03-2015, 09:11 PM
..I don't have you confused with anyone else youre the only fat ugly smelly troll-hag ive ever known of ..........I don't have anymore time for youre stupid ***............

Lady Quagga
12-03-2015, 09:51 PM
youre the only fat ugly smelly troll-hag ive ever known of

Considering the troll-hags you've taken out on your boat, that's not saying much.


I don't have anymore time for youre stupid ***

Oh the irony.

See ya Bob. Have one for me,,,,,,,,,,,,,,or several,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

DockRat
12-04-2015, 06:00 AM
The burning love and need for affection that LQ displays with a never ending want for "the last word" is pretty funny.

LQ still believes Obama his her man.

smokehound
12-04-2015, 11:32 AM
First thing Obama and Clinton do after the San bernardino tragedy- Attack gun owners.


That was despicable. I couldn't believe it. Not even an hour after it had happened and Clinton's sour vinegary vagina just had to belch out that gun-control remark. She truly is a foetid hag.

And Obama, he's trying SO damn hard to convince the people this wasn't a terrorist attack.


"Durr it wuz nut a turrist athack, it wuz mass shooting rabblerabblerabble!" This nation truly is a stronghold of moronic ignoramuses led by sadistic opportunists.

Lady Quagga
12-04-2015, 12:35 PM
The burning love and need for affection that LQ displays with a never ending want for "the last word" is pretty funny.

LQ still believes Obama his her man.

This is message board, not the Princeton Debate Team. There is never a "last word". And no DRat, I have zero desire for affection from the likes of LQ's naysayers.

And since you've not been paying attention for the last five years, I will point it out again: I did not vote for Obama either time. The last time I voted for a major party candidate above the local level was in 2000. And that's not likely to happen again anytime soon.

Lady Quagga
12-04-2015, 12:46 PM
First thing Obama and Clinton do after the San bernardino tragedy- Attack gun owners.


That was despicable. I couldn't believe it. Not even an hour after it had happened and Clinton's sour vinegary vagina just had to belch out that gun-control remark. She truly is a foetid hag.

And Obama, he's trying SO damn hard to convince the people this wasn't a terrorist attack.


"Durr it wuz nut a turrist athack, it wuz mass shooting rabblerabblerabble!" This nation truly is a stronghold of moronic ignoramuses led by sadistic opportunists.

At this time, there is nothing to convince me that this was anything but a mass shooting, not a terrorist attack. Perhaps more information will be uncovered and shared as time goes along, but let's not make this anything more than what it is.

Theos
12-04-2015, 01:51 PM
At this time, there is nothing to convince me that this was anything but a mass shooting, not a terrorist attack. Perhaps more information will be uncovered and shared as time goes along, but let's not make this anything more than what it is.


Really ? you can't be serious

HawgZWylde
12-04-2015, 02:23 PM
At this time, there is nothing to convince me that this was anything but a mass shooting, not a terrorist attack. Perhaps more information will be uncovered and shared as time goes along, but let's not make this anything more than what it is.


http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp146/jtuttle_bucket/HeadUpAss.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/user/jtuttle_bucket/media/HeadUpAss.jpg.html)

Wow, just wow...

HawgZWylde
12-04-2015, 02:23 PM
Really ? you can't be serious

It is.....

DEVOREFLYER
12-04-2015, 03:13 PM
Let me see if I have this correct according to the Quagga. The peaceful Muslim couple that shot up San Bernardino have been wrongly accused.

The male that worked for the County Health Dept as a restaurant inspector was forced to inspect restaurants serving breakfast. Working in an environment surrounded by bacon, sausage and ham was causing him stress and his supervisors didn’t have sympathy for his plight.

The supposed pipe bombs and remote controlled bomb detonators were really materials he used while taking an on line plumbers apprentice course.
And the remote controlled stuff was for his new found radio controlled car hobby.

The final straw came when he was forced to attend an office Christmas party and found that the appetizers served were smokey links and deviled ham canapés.

This was just all too much to take and his pharmacist wife’s job security was threatened by the right wing trying to take away free birth control and the morning after pill.

This all could have been prevented by gun control and supporting climate change.

Do I have it right.

Theos
12-04-2015, 03:16 PM
It is.....

I think we have come to a point in this country where the trump man is going to be elected, I personally like a lot that he says and the way he says it, I'm sure many feel the same way, I think if he's not elected it will be because the powers that be have other plans, and it will lead to civil war, and I mean real civil war, not the undercover war that passes for violent crime that exists now. I just hope all of the cop haters and race baiters can protect themselves.

HawgZWylde
12-04-2015, 03:43 PM
Let me see if I have this correct according to the Quagga. The peaceful Muslim couple that shot up San Bernardino have been wrongly accused.

The male that worked for the County Health Dept as a restaurant inspector was forced to inspect restaurants serving breakfast. Working in an environment surrounded by bacon, sausage and ham was causing him stress and his supervisors didn’t have sympathy for his plight.

The supposed pipe bombs and remote controlled bomb detonators were really materials he used while taking an on line plumbers apprentice course.
And the remote controlled stuff was for his new found radio controlled car hobby.

The final straw came when he was forced to attend an office Christmas party and found that the appetizers served were smokey links and deviled ham canapés.

This was just all too much to take and his pharmacist wife’s job security was threatened by the right wing trying to take away free birth control and the morning after pill.

This all could have been prevented by gun control and supporting climate change.

Do I have it right.

Lol, well that about sums it up right Dev...

HawgZWylde
12-04-2015, 03:55 PM
I think we have come to a point in this country where the trump man is going to be elected, I personally like a lot that he says and the way he says it, I'm sure many feel the same way, I think if he's not elected it will be because the powers that be have other plans, and it will lead to civil war, and I mean real civil war, not the undercover war that passes for violent crime that exists now. I just hope all of the cop haters and race baiters can protect themselves.


I think you're right about Trump. I do indeed think the folks will rebel but let's pray it happens without bloodshed...

Lady Quagga
12-04-2015, 04:07 PM
Really ? you can't be serious

In fact, I am. If more information comes along which indicates that they're were specifically directed by some Muslim extremist group to carry out this attack, I will be the first to change that opinion. And no, the fact that the killers were "in communication" with extremists groups doesn't make this a terrorist attack.


Let me see if I have this correct according to the Quagga. The peaceful Muslim couple that shot up San Bernardino have been wrongly accused.

I never once implied that. I think we can all agreed that they are despicable murderers who got the death they deserved.


The male that worked for the County Health Dept as a restaurant inspector was forced to inspect restaurants serving breakfast. Working in an environment surrounded by bacon, sausage and ham was causing him stress and his supervisors didn’t have sympathy for his plight.

I don't care to speculate on whether his routine job functions caused him distress or not. But do I believe in such a scenario that he should have been accommodated? No.


The supposed pipe bombs and remote controlled bomb detonators were really materials he used while taking an on line plumbers apprentice course.
And the remote controlled stuff was for his new found radio controlled car hobby.

I think it's already been well established that the suspects intended to detonate IEDs. For you to suggest - even sarcastically - that he used components from his existing hobby or some correspondence course to have a "cover story" is sheer stupidity, even by your poor standards.


The final straw came when he was forced to attend an office Christmas party and found that the appetizers served were smokey links and deviled ham canapés.

We don't yet know what trigger set off this couple on their killing spree. It seems to me your own obsession with pork products (including your favorite, Hawggy) has you making some wild assumptions as to what excuse people are going to make for these murderers.


This was just all too much to take and his pharmacist wife’s job security was threatened by the right wing trying to take away free birth control and the morning after pill.

This all could have been prevented by gun control and supporting climate change.

Ah Dev, check your zipper - your politics are showing.


Do I have it right.

You've not gotten anything right for a while.

Lady Quagga
12-04-2015, 04:12 PM
http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp146/jtuttle_bucket/HeadUpAss.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/user/jtuttle_bucket/media/HeadUpAss.jpg.html)

Wow, just wow...

Oh look who decided to stick his snout out from under the rock he's been hiding under....

And please, save us the self portraits. I know you like to share your personal fetishes and all, but come on....

Lady Quagga
12-04-2015, 04:18 PM
I think we have come to a point in this country where the trump man is going to be elected, I personally like a lot that he says and the way he says it, I'm sure many feel the same way, I think if he's not elected it will be because the powers that be have other plans, and it will lead to civil war, and I mean real civil war, not the undercover war that passes for violent crime that exists now. I just hope all of the cop haters and race baiters can protect themselves.

If Trump is nominated, I simply do not see the GoP winning the Presidency. In fact, if he is nominated, I believe there are a significant number of Republicans who simply won't vote, because they sure as hell aren't voting for a Democrat.

And no, you won't see a civil war if a Democrat is elected.

DarkShadow
12-04-2015, 04:31 PM
Cmon Quagga.

Look at their last names.

Terrorists for sure!

Theos
12-04-2015, 04:35 PM
If Trump is nominated, I simply do not see the GoP winning the Presidency. In fact, if he is nominated, I believe there are a significant number of Republicans who simply won't vote, because they sure as hell aren't voting for a Democrat.

And no, you won't see a civil war if a Democrat is elected.

That's it, keep hope alive, the tide is turning, and soon the freaks, race baiters and cop haters will crawl back under their rocks and go back in their closets.

etucker1959
12-04-2015, 04:40 PM
I think we have come to a point in this country where the trump man is going to be elected, I personally like a lot that he says and the way he says it, I'm sure many feel the same way, I think if he's not elected it will be because the powers that be have other plans, and it will lead to civil war, and I mean real civil war, not the undercover war that passes for violent crime that exists now. I just hope all of the cop haters and race baiters can protect themselves.
That is scary!!!!! The fact is people believe what you just wrote. (no chance in hell anything you wrote will happen) I've been a member of this board since 2011 and don't have any plans on leaving. So if I bring up when the time is right, Trump didn't get elected and no sign of a Civil War. Maybe you'll take what other's (on the other side of the political fence) say a little more serious!!!!! Because what you wrote is crazy talk.

Lady Quagga
12-04-2015, 04:54 PM
That's it, keep hope alive, the tide is turning, and soon the freaks, race baiters and cop haters will crawl back under their rocks and go back in their closets.

Ah, so you're an ignorant little bigot. Thanks for clearing that up.

DEVOREFLYER
12-04-2015, 05:24 PM
It was reported that 82 people were in attendance at the place that was shot up, don't you find it very strange that not one of them has been interviewed on TV. Not one person very strange indeed......I know for a fact that the media pays very well for first hand info.....very strange indeed...

HawgZWylde
12-04-2015, 06:12 PM
It was reported that 82 people were in attendance at the place that was shot up, don't you find it very strange that not one of them has been interviewed on TV. Not one person very strange indeed......I know for a fact that the media pays very well for first hand info.....very strange indeed...

You know what else was strange is the landlord of the two terrorists ripping off the OSB plywood covering the door of their house and allowing those cnn and msnbc reporters to go into a crime scene so soon potentially contaminating said crime scene. Wonder how much they paid him to do that?

Lady Quagga
12-04-2015, 06:25 PM
It was reported that 82 people were in attendance at the place that was shot up, don't you find it very strange that not one of them has been interviewed on TV. Not one person very strange indeed......I know for a fact that the media pays very well for first hand info.....very strange indeed...

You're not paying attention.


You know what else was strange is the landlord of the two terrorists ripping off the OSB plywood covering the door of their house and allowing those cnn and msnbc reporters to go into a crime scene so soon potentially contaminating said crime scene. Wonder how much they paid him to do that?

It was no longer a crime scene, and once law enforcement officials concluded their investigation of the house, he was entitled to do whatever the hell he felt like. Including acting like an opportunistic capitalist pig.

Theos
12-04-2015, 06:40 PM
Ah, so you're an ignorant little bigot. Thanks for clearing that up.

Bigoted how ?
Why do you have a propensity to launch ad hom attacks ?

Theos
12-04-2015, 06:41 PM
That is scary!!!!! The fact is people believe what you just wrote. (no chance in hell anything you wrote will happen) I've been a member of this board since 2011 and don't have any plans on leaving. So if I bring up when the time is right, Trump didn't get elected and no sign of a Civil War. Maybe you'll take what other's (on the other side of the political fence) say a little more serious!!!!! Because what you wrote is crazy talk.

You appear to be in deep denial, but it's okay, carry on.

Theos
12-04-2015, 06:45 PM
That is scary!!!!! The fact is people believe what you just wrote. (no chance in hell anything you wrote will happen) I've been a member of this board since 2011 and don't have any plans on leaving. So if I bring up when the time is right, Trump didn't get elected and no sign of a Civil War. Maybe you'll take what other's (on the other side of the political fence) say a little more serious!!!!! Because what you wrote is crazy talk.

Serious like Obama ? Serious like Shillary Clinton ?

etucker1959
12-04-2015, 07:24 PM
You appear to be in deep denial, but it's okay, carry on.
I like to put my money where my mouth is!!!! I've got a World class steak dinner for 2 (any restaurant of their choice) payable by me to several FNN members, If any Republican candidate wins the Presidential election in 2016. If a Demorat wins the presidency, they owe me a redneck steak dinner with all the trimmings (a hotdog with catsup & mustard they can swipe from 7 eleven.)

Theos
12-04-2015, 07:29 PM
I like to put my money where my mouth is!!!! I've got a World class steak dinner (any restaurant of their choice) payable by me to several FNN members, If any Republican candidate wins the Presidential election in 2016. If a Demorat wins the presidency, they owe me a redneck steak dinner with all the trimmings (hotdog with catsup & mustard swiped from 7 eleven.)

That's good, you're on, but I can afford a real meal, :LOL:

dbfishing
12-04-2015, 07:40 PM
As t/o mentioned and I know off topic but why never any pics from you etucker?

etucker1959
12-04-2015, 08:01 PM
As t/o mentioned and I know off topic but why never any pics from you etucker?
Funny you should mention that. I don't put them in for 2 reasons, 1. I'm a ugly F. Just yesterday I was eating some Tuna that I caught last weekend at my friends Glenn's house and he gave me some pictures of some fish we caught this year. (a couple of them were pretty good and I was totally surprised!!!) 2. Which is the really big reason, "I try to tell a story in all my fish reports and I want people to use THEIR IMAGANIATIONS to fill in some of the details!!!!" When I was in Elementary school, my teachers would read us famous children's book right after lunch. I remember hearing, James and the giant peach and Charlie & the chocolate factory among the books she would read before the movies ever came out. (never any pictures in these books) Every child would imagine the story a little different from each other. Had there been lot's of pictures or seeing the movie first, every person more or less would be seeing the same thing. Using words like a canvas let's people paint their own picture with their minds. Now isn't that a lot better then to show everybody a bunch of pictures and say, "here it is!!!!!"

etucker1959
12-04-2015, 08:53 PM
That's good, you're on, but I can afford a real meal, :LOL:
It wouldn't be fair for anyone to take the Republicans straight up against Madame Hillary. In football betting when a strong team plays against a weak team, the strong team must give up points to make it a fair bet. The stronger the team against a weaker opponent the more points have to be given up. So a $100 Steak dinner for 2, against a $1 hotdog and swiped condiments seems about right if the Republican candidate wins. I wouldn't want to take advantage of any one!!!!

bass413
12-04-2015, 09:32 PM
Now isn't that a lot better then to show everybody a bunch of pictures and say, "here it is!!!!!"

No............

bass413
12-04-2015, 09:35 PM
At this time, there is nothing to convince me that this was anything but a mass shooting, not a terrorist attack. Perhaps more information will be uncovered and shared as time goes along, but let's not make this anything more than what it is.

And on that note, I have made the conscience decision to NEVER read a LQ post/response again.

etucker1959
12-04-2015, 10:02 PM
No............
I'll give you an example of my favorite boring picture. 20 1-3 lbs striped bass in the bow of a boat!!!! If you have seen 1, you have seen them all!!!!!

Theos
12-04-2015, 10:30 PM
It wouldn't be fair for anyone to take the Republicans straight up against Madame Hillary. In football betting when a strong team plays against a weak team, the strong team must give up points to make it a fair bet. The stronger the team against a weaker opponent the more points have to be given up. So a $100 Steak dinner for 2, against a $1 hotdog and swiped condiments seems about right if the Republican candidate wins. I wouldn't want to take advantage of any one!!!!

If she wins, but she won't, its lock and load time, the towel head broad with the mole on her nose just guaranteed a republican victory, that's why they withheld her picture for so long. Obozo's 3rd term will not be welcomed, and the real people in charge, the silent majority will shut Shillary down, especially after the garden gnome attorney general refuses to send cankles to the joint. The "public" can only tolerate so much corruption before something has to give. Her husband lowered the bar and stained the dress, Odummy has been dismal at best, all we have left to totally scrape the bottom of the barrel is the Trumpster. And it will be scraped by default. History has proven that after dual terms of any party a change will come.

Lady Quagga
12-04-2015, 10:48 PM
Bigoted how ?
Why do you have a propensity to launch ad hom attacks ?

You opened yourself up for criticism. Read your own post and figure it out. I suppose now you'll make some half-assed attempt at being coy.

etucker1959
12-04-2015, 10:52 PM
If she wins, but she won't, its lock and load time, the towel head broad with the mole on her nose just guaranteed a republican victory, that's why they withheld her picture for so long. Obozo's 3rd term will not be welcomed, and the real people in charge, the silent majority will shut Shillary down, especially after the garden gnome attorney general refuses to send cankles to the joint. The "public" can only tolerate so much corruption before something has to give. Her husband lowered the bar and stained the dress, Odummy has been dismal at best, all we have left to totally scrape the bottom of the barrel is the Trumpster. And it will be scraped by default. History has proven that after dual terms of any party a change will come.
I don't disagree that after a while people like a change in party's of who's being President. The problem is the Republican field is sooo weak the Demorats win by just not being bat shitte crazy!!!!

Theos
12-04-2015, 11:12 PM
You opened yourself up for criticism. Read your own post and figure it out. I suppose now you'll make some half-assed attempt at being coy.

You tell me, you seem to be an expert at political correctness, I don't have to make attempts to be anything, the truth has always been a lie to the world.

Theos
12-04-2015, 11:15 PM
I don't disagree that after a while people like a change in party's of who's being President. The problem is the Republican field is sooo weak the Demorats win by just not being bat shitte crazy!!!!

They aren't weak, the coverage is slanted, just imagine if Shillary were a republican, the justice dept. would have her in prison already, instead her crimes get no coverage and she's considered a strong candidate.

etucker1959
12-04-2015, 11:27 PM
They aren't weak, the coverage is slanted, just imagine if Shillary were a republican, the justice dept. would have her in prison already, instead her crimes get no coverage and she's considered a strong candidate.
No coverage!!!!!! What do you call Fox News???? 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year, who's whole job is to tell the Conservative side of everything. Plus you have Conservative Radio and the Conservative Press and Internet!!!!! Plenty of chances to flame Hillary if that's where the story's went!!!!!!

Theos
12-04-2015, 11:31 PM
No coverage!!!!!! What do you call Fox News???? 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year, who's whole job is to tell the Conservative side of everything. Plus you have Conservative Radio and the Conservative Press and Internet!!!!!

Fox line liberals don't watch fox news, they prefer saddle loafers, Melissa Harris Perry and Al Sharpton. the truth is like kryptonite to them.

etucker1959
12-04-2015, 11:48 PM
Fox line liberals don't watch fox news, they prefer saddle loafers, Melissa Harris Perry and Al Sharpton. the truth is like kryptonite to them.
The truth of the matter is MSNBC is dying to the liberal base!!!! Cable TV is old technology to the hip liberals!!!!

Lady Quagga
12-05-2015, 12:16 AM
You tell me, you seem to be an expert at political correctness, I don't have to make attempts to be anything, the truth has always been a lie to the world.

As I suspected, a feeble attempt at being coy. Your fortune cookie platitudes won't save you here - you know what you said, bigot.

And I am far from politically correct, in spite of what our conservative-leaning members here may think.

tpfishnfool
12-05-2015, 07:22 AM
Blah Blah Blah Blah... Go fishing

Theos
12-05-2015, 10:02 AM
As I suspected, a feeble attempt at being coy. Your fortune cookie platitudes won't save you here - you know what you said, bigot.

And I am far from politically correct, in spite of what our conservative-leaning members here may think.

That's it carry on with the ad-hom attacks, attacks and name calling are a poor excuse for debate. Do you eat cookies with your Kool- aid ? Or do you drink it straight ? :LOL:

Lady Quagga
12-05-2015, 12:34 PM
That's it carry on with the ad-hom attacks, attacks and name calling are a poor excuse for debate. Do you eat cookies with your Kool- aid ? Or do you drink it straight ? :LOL:

There is no debate going on here. You are a bigot. And I've offered no figurative "Kool-Aid" here.

And name-calling? Please, don't be a hypocrite.

Incidentally, it's ad hominem. But you knew that, right?

Theos
12-05-2015, 09:32 PM
There is no debate going on here. You are a bigot. And I've offered no figurative "Kool-Aid" here.

And name-calling? Please, don't be a hypocrite.

Incidentally, it's ad hominem. But you knew that, right?

It's ad-hom in higher education, you know higher education ? Not useless degrees in arts and social work, women's studies, race studies etc. All hail the faux "LADY" :LOL:

Lady Quagga
12-05-2015, 11:40 PM
It's ad-hom in higher education, you know higher education ? Not useless degrees in arts and social work, women's studies, race studies etc. All hail the faux "LADY" :LOL:

Indeed, and nowhere in my Humanities texts would you have found lazy jargon use such as yours. Oh, and you're still a bigot.

"Useless degrees in Arts"? You really have no clue what you're talking about, do you?

Of course, I didn't pursue the arts or social work. (Not that they weren't any less valid - just not my bag.) After the obligatory "higher education" and a career which spanned nearly a decade and a half, I returned to school to pursue my second career.

HawgZWylde
12-06-2015, 07:47 AM
Lol, a decade and a half? That's it??? Sucks those Indian H1B's chased you out of IT eh? Hmmm, so we are about the same age and you only had 15 years under your belt? That's a lot of sunnin and funnin at Havasu and the beach, no? And now you're pursuing a career in community organizing? Lol, by the time you finish you'll be able to collect S.S. Quagga.

So now Theos is a bigot too? Is he gonna be a racist next?

Lady Quagga
12-06-2015, 08:10 AM
Lol, a decade and a half? That's it??? Sucks those Indian H1B's chased you out of IT eh? Hmmm, so we are about the same age and you only had 15 years under your belt? That's a lot of sunnin and funnin at Havasu and the beach, no? And now you're pursuing a career in community organizing? Lol, by the time you finish you'll be able to collect S.S. Quagga.

So now Theos is a bigot too? Is he gonna be a racist next?

Sorry Hawggy, but you're significantly older. And it's been a been quite a while since I left I.T. as a profession, though I do contract out on the rare occassion.

I was never a supporter of outsourcing I.T. work overseas, or work visas in order to underpay Americans here. Luckily, my skillset meant my job was never threatened by either. The choice to leave the industry was mine, and was influenced by a culture of compromise which I found unacceptable. I now work in an industry where compromise is never an option - and I happen to like what I do now. :Thumbs Up:

Sunnin and funnin in Havasu? Never, though I did pull my personal best smallie from there, once upon a time.

Theos is a bigot, yes. His words speak for themselves.

DarkShadow
12-07-2015, 02:17 PM
Sunnin and funnin in Havasu? Never, though I did pull my personal best smallie from there, once upon a time.

Don't lie. If I hadn't had to retie, you wouldn't have gotten d!ck under those windy conditions.

*

Did everyone else hear about the accomplice to the terrorist attacks?!

Enrique Marquez:

http://i2.wp.com/www.youngcons.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/08081.jpg

(Obviously an illegal Mexican terrorist, I know)

He's the guy who procured the AR15s for the terrorists muslim antifreedom fighters who probably are relatives with Obama.

Marquez!? That is a surname known around the Mexican Mafia circle. And did you hear that the FBI confiscated christmas lights from Marquez. CHRISTmas lights! Don't need to cut and paste an article from Breitbart to let you know the connections.

You know what that means? That ISIS is now in bed with Christianity AND the Mexican Mafia and are now partnering to bring this country down.

Trump was right.

marc626
12-08-2015, 08:15 PM
Lol. Another mentally unstable latino. Glad that he does not fish like most.

Lady Quagga
12-08-2015, 08:41 PM
Lol. Another mentally unstable latino. Glad that he does not fish like most.

Did your parents have any children that lived?

Lady Quagga
12-08-2015, 08:57 PM
The Republican front-runner, Ladies and Gents....

Donald Trump thinks he can call Bill Gates to 'close up' the internet
Stupid is as Trump does
By Nick Statt on December 7, 2015 08:53 pm

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump just said the US should consider "closing up" the internet to curb radical extremism. Trump, a man that routinely claims everyone in charge of the US is stupid, believes that as president he could just call up Bill Gates to help him shut off the internet. Trump floated the idea at a campaign rally at the USS Yorktown in South Carolina tonight as a way to stop ISIS "jihadists" from recruiting Americans to commit acts of domestic terrorism. The idea is so dumb it almost has us, too, at a loss for words.

"We're losing a lot of people because of the internet," Trump said. "We have to see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what's happening. We have to talk to them about, maybe in certain areas, closing that internet up in some ways. Somebody will say, 'Oh freedom of speech, freedom of speech.' These are foolish people."

It's unclear if Trump was suggesting the US government censor certain parts of the web or if he lacks a basic understanding of how the internet works.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/7/9869308/donald-trump-close-up-the-internet-bill-gates

DarkShadow
12-09-2015, 10:28 AM
The Republican front-runner, Ladies and Gents....

Donald Trump thinks he can call Bill Gates to 'close up' the internet
Stupid is as Trump does
By Nick Statt on December 7, 2015 08:53 pm

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump just said the US should consider "closing up" the internet....

Donald Trump is like a human version of a YouTube video's comment area.

etucker1959
12-09-2015, 01:21 PM
Since several people have expressed their opinion that Obama is the worst President ever!!!!! I think the candidates from the other side who want to be the next President are fair game to make comparisons too. We all know the deep South is firmly in Republicans hands. So spoofing one of their local hero's seems rather appropriate. Jeff Foxworthy of Redneck comedy fame, once hosted a TV show called, "are you smarting then a fifth grader???" (no doubt Obama is) But your 3 leading Republican Candidates for President based upon what they have said recently, "makes you wonder if they are."

What all 3 of them have done in the last week is confuse some vaguely semi related topic and make up an answer that fits their agenda. Let's start with Ben Carson. When talking about some strange symbol's that appear on the back of our $1 dollar bill. Good ole Ben started talking about the Star of David. (obviously to show his support of Israel.) Unfortunately for him no such symbol appears on our $1 dollar bill. We do have a Pyramid on the back of our $1, so if Ben wants to say something nice about Egypt. He can then make up some **** and bull story about that. In defense of Ben Carson, at one time the USA did use a 6 pointed star on one of their coins. (it does have a stark resemblance to a star of David) But this coin was a 3 cent piece minted between 1851-1873. The country of Israel was only a far fetched dream of the Jews back then.

Let's start talking about the Trump man calling Bill Gates to shut down the part of the internet that Muslim extremist are using to recruit new followers. Really?????? The beauty of the Internet when it was designed by the Military, was that it could never be shut down. (too many paths a signal could go through) So when the Trump master said to call Bill Gates, it just showed he probably was dumber then a fifth grader. (most 5th graders know you can't shut down the Internet) Now had he said he was going to call Zuckerman (Facebook fame) to increase the monitoring of things posted on Facebook. There was a little bit that might have been able to be accomplished.

I then saw good ole Senator Cruz today calling climate change, "pseudo science!!!" Really!!!! Climate deniers are getting pretty few and far between now a days. Unless you are not smarter then a 5th grader!!!!!

The 3 top Republican candidates are running around talking CRAZY and then say, "please vote for me to be President!!!!" If any of them ever did become President of the United States. Obama in comparison would be now known as the last sane President!!!!!

HawgZWylde
12-09-2015, 06:45 PM
Don't lie. If I hadn't had to retie, you wouldn't have gotten d!ck under those windy conditions.

*

Did everyone else hear about the accomplice to the terrorist attacks?!

Enrique Marquez:

http://i2.wp.com/www.youngcons.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/08081.jpg

(Obviously an illegal Mexican terrorist, I know)

He's the guy who procured the AR15s for the terrorists muslim antifreedom fighters who probably are relatives with Obama.

Marquez!? That is a surname known around the Mexican Mafia circle. And did you hear that the FBI confiscated christmas lights from Marquez. CHRISTmas lights! Don't need to cut and paste an article from Breitbart to let you know the connections.

You know what that means? That ISIS is now in bed with Christianity AND the Mexican Mafia and are now partnering to bring this country down.

Trump was right.

Wow dude, just wow. The worst terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11 and you find a way to make humor about it. Indeed...

HawgZWylde
12-09-2015, 06:47 PM
Donald Trump is like a human version of a YouTube video's comment area.

You mean he says it like it is PC be damned?

HawgZWylde
12-09-2015, 07:01 PM
The Republican front-runner, Ladies and Gents....

Donald Trump thinks he can call Bill Gates to 'close up' the internet
[I]Stupid is as Trump does
By Nick Statt on December 7, 2015 08:53 pm

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump just said the US should consider "closing up" the internet to curb radical extremism. Trump, a man that routinely claims everyone in charge of the US is stupid, believes that as president he could just call up Bill Gates to help him shut off the internet. Trump floated the idea at a campaign rally at the USS Yorktown in South Carolina tonight as a way to stop ISIS "jihadists" from recruiting Americans to commit acts of domestic terrorism. The idea is so dumb it almost has us, too, at a loss for words.

"We're losing a lot of people because of the internet," Trump said. "We have to see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what's happening. We have to talk to them about, maybe in certain areas, closing that internet up in some ways. Somebody will say, 'Oh freedom of speech, freedom of speech.' These are foolish people."

It's unclear if Trump was suggesting the US government censor certain parts of the web or if he lacks a basic understanding of how the internet works.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/7/9869308/donald-trump-close-up-the-internet-bill-gates

Context?

Trump said;
"We have to see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what's happening. We have to talk to them about, maybe in certain areas, closing that internet up in some ways."

So is there something wrong with getting with the tech giants to figure out how to stop terrorist communication and recruiting over the internet? He didn't say close the entire internet down, but you know that. Talk about parroting liberal talking points.

Oh, and "The Verge"? Hypocrisy much LQ? Ezra Klein? Vox? Doesn't get more liberal than that now does it...

hookdfisherman
12-09-2015, 08:12 PM
still a moron.

open your eyes.

47332

HawgZWylde
12-09-2015, 08:27 PM
Lol, awhile back you liberals on here defended Hillary Clinton's actions regarding the Benghazi incident saying it was a right wing witch hunt and that it would blow over. Well guess what, it's back and biting hard.

Judicial Watch, a government watchdog entity received and released a newly acquired e-mail communication from former Department of Defense Chief of Staff Jeremy Bash and State Department leadership that further exposes the Obama administration's, including Secretary of State Clinton, cover up of the handling of the September 11, 2012 attack on the US consulate and the CIA annex 1.2 miles away in Benghazi, Libya.


Judicial Watch today released a new Benghazi email from then-Department of Defense Chief of Staff Jeremy Bash to State Department leadership immediately offering “forces that could move to Benghazi” during the terrorist attack on the U.S. Special Mission Compound in Benghazi, Libya on September 11, 2012. In an email sent to top Department of State officials, at 7:19 p.m. ET, only hours after the attack had begun, Bash says, “we have identified the forces that could move to Benghazi. They are spinning up as we speak.” The Obama administration redacted the details of the military forces available, oddly citing a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) exemption that allows the withholding of “deliberative process” information.

And along with admiral Carter, we all know that these fine generals were relieved of their command after the Benghazi story broke.

After consulting with General Dempsey, General Ham and the Joint Staff, we have identified the forces that could move to Benghazi. They are spinning up as we speak. They include a [REDACTED].

Read the report here;
www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-new-benghazi-email-shows-dod-offered-state-department-forces-that-could-move-to-benghazi-immediately-specifics-blacked-out-in-new-document/

Awhile back there were several here in denial and defending Hillary Clinton, calling this incident a right wing conspiracy to destroy Madame Hillary. This is dereliction of duty in the least and more likely an illicit gun running op to Syrian rebels(ISIS)cover-up. Hard to imagine there are those who think Clinton is qualified to be POTUS...

etucker1959
12-09-2015, 08:39 PM
still a moron.

open your eyes.

47332
That's really stretching it. My dad told me he fought along side of the Palestine Brigade in Italy in WW2. They had British trucks with a faint star of David on the door. A Real star of David!!!!!!!

etucker1959
12-09-2015, 08:43 PM
Lol, awhile back you liberals on here defended Hillary Clinton's actions regarding the Benghazi incident saying it was a right wing witch hunt and that it would blow over. Well guess what, it's back and biting hard.

Judicial Watch, a government watchdog entity received and released a newly acquired e-mail communication from former Department of Defense Chief of Staff Jeremy Bash and State Department leadership that further exposes the Obama administration's, including Secretary of State Clinton, cover up of the handling of the September 11, 2012 attack on the US consulate and the CIA annex 1.2 miles away in Benghazi, Libya.



And along with admiral Carter, we all know that these fine generals were relieved of their command after the Benghazi story broke.


Read the report here;
www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-new-benghazi-email-shows-dod-offered-state-department-forces-that-could-move-to-benghazi-immediately-specifics-blacked-out-in-new-document/

Awhile back there were several here in denial and defending Hillary Clinton, calling this incident a right wing conspiracy to destroy Madame Hillary. This is dereliction of duty in the least and more likely an illicit gun running op to Syrian rebels(ISIS)cover-up. Hard to imagine there are those who think Clinton is qualified to be POTUS...
Yet the American public will still elect her as the next President of the United states!!!!

HawgZWylde
12-09-2015, 08:43 PM
still a moron.

open your eyes.

47332

Lol, yes it's all the Jews fault. Who's the moron?

hookdfisherman
12-09-2015, 08:50 PM
Lol, yes it's all the Jews fault. Who's the moron?

did i imply that? you're another moron.

HawgZWylde
12-09-2015, 09:04 PM
And some say Hillary Clinton will be the next President! So I guess those who would support her then would support this?

***I'm just going to copy and paste this because it's late and I want to hit the couch.

Judicial Watch sues the Treasury Department for records on Clinton-Russian uranium scandal;


(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch announced today that it filed a lawsuit in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia seeking communications between the U.S. Department of the Treasury and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of the Treasury (No. 1:15-cv-01776)).

The goal of the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit is to gain access to documents involving a uranium deal approved by then-Secretary of State Clinton that is tied to major Clinton Foundation donor Frank Giustra and Russian-state issues.

The lawsuit was filed after the Treasury Department ignored a FOIA request sent on May 29, 2015. Judicial Watch’s request seeks emails between key Treasury agencies and Hillary Clinton non-governmental email accounts:

All records of email communications between the Office of Foreign Assets Control and any “clintonemail.com” address, including but not limited to hrod17@clintonemail.com and hdr22@clintonemail.com;
All records of email communications between the Committee on Foreign Investment in the U.S. and any “clintonemail.com” address, including but not limited to hrodl7@clintonemail.com and hdr22@clintonemail.com; and
All records of email communications between the Office of the Secretary of the Treasury and any “clintonemail.com” address, including but not limited to hrod17@clintonemail.com and hdr22@clintonemail.com.

Judicial Watch is investigating a controversial 2010 deal involving Uranium One, the Canadian company currently at the center of the Clinton Foundation donor scandals and ARMZ, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Rosatom, the Russian atomic energy agency, which recently took a 51 percent controlling interest in Uranium One. The lawsuit seeks information about the approval of this deal and whether the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) ignored the mandatory 75-day review approval process, approving the deal in just 52 days. Mrs. Clinton, as Secretary of State, was a member of CFIUS.

Peter Scheweizer’s book Clinton Cash first raised questions about the Uranium One deal, which benefited many donors to the Clinton Foundation, including Giustra, who, among other dealings, helped set up a Clinton Foundation entity in Canada that had the effect of hiding donations from foreign governments and others from public disclosure, despite promises of disclosure by Hillary Clinton and the Foundation.

As the New York Times reported on April 23, the Clinton Foundation hid many of the beneficiaries of the deal approved by Mrs. Clinton and CFIUS:

As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well.

And shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock.

At the time, both Rosatom and the United States government made promises intended to ease concerns about ceding control of the company’s assets to the Russians. Those promises have been repeatedly broken, records show.

The documents from Treasury should shed light on the apparent conflict of interest between then-Secretary of State Clinton and the Clinton Foundation regarding the expedited approval process. Under United States law, uranium is considered a strategic asset; therefore, any such deal must be approved by a committee of U.S. government officials. The CFIUS board, which is tasked with reviewing all foreign acquisitions of American national security assets, consists of seven cabinet members, including the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Treasury. In 2010, Jose W. Fernandez represented the State Department on the CFIUS board, and the documents sought by Judicial Watch lawsuit should clarify whether Clinton failed to disclose to Fernandez that several executives at Uranium One made millions of dollars in contributions to the Clinton Foundation immediately before and after CFIUS reviewed and approved the ARMZ-Uranium One deal.

Separate Judicial Watch FOIA litigation forced the disclosure last year of documents that provided a road map for over 200 conflicts-of-interest rulings that led to $48 million for the Clinton Foundation and other Clinton-connected entities during Hillary Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state. Previously disclosed documents in this lawsuit, for example, raise questions about funds Clinton accepted from entities linked to Saudi Arabia, China and Iran, among others. The August 13, 2014, investigative report that first disclosed the Clinton financial dealings, “State Department approved 215 Bill Clinton speeches, controversial consulting deal, worth $48m; Hillary Clinton’s Chief of Staff copied on all decisions,” is available here.

The approval of this deal made millions of dollars for the Clinton Foundation, gave the Russians control of one-fifth of all uranium production in the U.S., and made Rosatom one of the world’s largest uranium producers.

“Hillary Clinton’s cash and secrecy on this Russian uranium deal looks corrupt and criminal,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “And now that his Treasury Department violated FOIA to cover up yet another Clinton scandal, there is no daylight between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton on this scandal that placed our nation’s security at risk."
http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-sues-treasury-for-records-on-hillary-clinton-russian-uranium-scandal/

*Update:The Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) responded today that it allegedly had no records....Lol, hmmm, ya think?

etucker1959
12-09-2015, 09:05 PM
did i imply that? you're another moron.
Now who's the moron???? Usually a person who believes in the view point of the right, is called a moron by the people of the left and vice versa. But to call people moron's on both side of the political fence is moronic in itself!!!!!

HawgZWylde
12-09-2015, 09:06 PM
Yet the American public will still elect her as the next President of the United states!!!!

Why do you think they will do that?

HawgZWylde
12-09-2015, 09:10 PM
did i imply that? you're another moron.

Since your reply was right below mine and you did not reply with a quote I assumed you were responding to me. Perhaps you could be more specific on exactly who you are responding to...

etucker1959
12-09-2015, 09:12 PM
Why do you think they will do that?
That's an easy one. She wins by default!!!!! She is the lessor of the two evils the American public will get to choose from!!

HawgZWylde
12-09-2015, 09:27 PM
That's an easy one. She wins by default!!!!! She is the lessor of the two evils the American public will get to choose from!!

With all the corruption surrounding the Clintons, why would you say that? Not saying I support Trump, but it's more than likely he will get the nomination-and he's NOT a true traditional conservative in the least. He does recognize the grave problems facing our nation and he says it like it is rather than use poli-speak, in other words he doesn't beat around the bullshit bush. He's a billionaire and is not bought off by the wall street crowd which I would think those on the left would like. Funny though, those on the left who detest the so called "rich" don't seem to mind the Clinton's are probably the most "bought off" politicians in America today. And they're filthy rich from "politics". Go figure...

hookdfisherman
12-09-2015, 09:42 PM
***I'm just going to copy and paste this because it's late and I want to hit the couch.





Lol, wifey kicking you to the curb? "Hey fatty, you snore, never bathe and stink like a pig, go sleep on the couch; thanks honey!"








LOL

etucker1959
12-09-2015, 10:32 PM
With all the corruption surrounding the Clintons, why would you say that? Not saying I support Trump, but it's more than likely he will get the nomination-and he's NOT a true traditional conservative in the least. He does recognize the grave problems facing our nation and he says it like it is rather than use poli-speak, in other words he doesn't beat around the bullshit bush. He's a billionaire and is not bought off by the wall street crowd which I would think those on the left would like. Funny though, those on the left who detest the so called "rich" don't seem to mind the Clinton's are probably the most "bought off" politicians in America today. And they're filthy rich from "politics". Go figure...
The problem with Trump in the Republican ranks is, "the establishment Republicans won't vote for him." Which doesn't mean they would vote for a Demorat. They just wouldn't vote at all and that's no way to win an election!!!

HawgZWylde
12-09-2015, 10:44 PM
Lol, wifey kicking you to the curb? "Hey fatty, you snore, never bathe and stink like a pig, go sleep on the couch; thanks honey!"








LOL

Lol, nope, I wanted to make sure the Richard Simmons exercise vid I taped for you came out ok. I don't know why you think I'm fat but if you want to meet me at Skinner next Tuesday, I'll prove to you I'm not, sweetheart.....:Finger:

HawgZWylde
12-09-2015, 10:51 PM
The problem with Trump in the Republican ranks is, "the establishment Republicans won't vote for him." Which doesn't mean they would vote for a Demorat. They just wouldn't vote at all and that's no way to win an election!!!

Here's the thing tucker, I don't see that happening, maybe a few but no one center right to right wants Clinton in office. And most of the Independents don't like her. As a matter of fact a lot of democrats can't stand her either but won't say so publicly...

hookdfisherman
12-09-2015, 11:17 PM
.



Lol, nope, I wanted to make sure the Richard Simmons exercise vid I taped for you came out ok. I don't know why you think I'm fat but if you want to meet me at Skinner next Tuesday, I'll prove to you I'm not, sweetheart.....:Finger:






















i've seen your picture chubs, i know you're fat.









meet you? lol

call me out you puuhsy, see where that gets you

lol u fat (and dumb) jerk

hahah






so, r. simmons for me? ah, no, i just gotta think of you.

no need to bother recording your nightly lonely fat boy programs for me, don't need them.

i bet from here on out you'll think a little more before you let out your family sleeping arrangements i.e. sleeping alone recording richard simmons, when your cheerleader wifey makes you sleep on da couch??! i can't stop laughing, you should keep tapping that keyboard, cuz you deffo ain't tappin anything or anybody else (except in your sweet dreams with little richie boy). the more you talk, the more laughs for "our gang", you chump.


btw, fellas, next time you're over at piggy's, just know that you're sitting on chubbo's bed, yikes!

is that beer cold enough?







you're so fruckin' funny! hahahah









.

DockRat
12-10-2015, 06:36 AM
Hey Tucker, Why do you support higher taxes and big government ?
Have you not noticed companies leaving Calif ? My buddies wife just lost her job of 20 years
at Farmers brothers coffee in Torrance. They are moving the plant to Texas.

TroutOnly
12-10-2015, 07:00 AM
d/r they have been leaving for years now ,to many bs regs and too high of taxes ,they continue drive away good jobs increase ****** ones and the welfare roles. old jerry is as big a failure as Obama.........EPIC FAILURE........back to the original topic of this thread.....

etucker1959
12-10-2015, 12:00 PM
Hey Tucker, Why do you support higher taxes and big government ?
Have you not noticed companies leaving Calif ? My buddies wife just lost her job of 20 years
at Farmers brothers coffee in Torrance. They are moving the plant to Texas.
Good question DR???? In economics they have a term called Market forces, President Reagan used the term all the time. What it basically means things will eventual balance themselves out. Here in California we have great weather and TOOO MANY PEOPLE!!!!! By having higher tax's and big government, Market forces should start getting rid of some of the people. The people who can still make a living and pay the higher tax's get to stay!!!!!!! Everyone else go live in Texas!!!!!! lol The people who can stay get to ride that nice high speed train and fish in less crowded conditions!!!!! lol

Lady Quagga
12-10-2015, 12:04 PM
So is there something wrong with getting with the tech giants to figure out how to stop terrorist communication and recruiting over the internet? He didn't say close the entire internet down, but you know that. Talk about parroting liberal talking points.

Anyone (like that idiot Trump) who thinks you can stop any particular type of communication over the internet lacks a fundamental understanding of how the internet works. Perhaps Comb-over should have consulted a tech adviser before spouting such nonsense.

His notion that you can block certain speech over the internet because you think it is "bad" - First Amendment be damned - is the worst kind of totalitarianism. Laws already exist against criminal conspiracy or soliciting illegal activity. But trying to block certain speech - even speech by radicals intent on indoctrination - no matter how unpopular it might be, is nonsensical, not to mention counter-productive. Then again, when you're paying lip service to a core base such as his, logic and common sense isn't really a requirement.


Oh, and "The Verge"? Hypocrisy much LQ? Ezra Klein? Vox? Doesn't get more liberal than that now does it...

I've got no problem quoting The Verge - that's why I included the link. There is nothing in that article you can disprove factually. As to the opinions expressed, I agree with them completely - and was able to provide my own words and reasoning for such. The Verge's opinions may be more politically motivated, but anyone with an I.T. background would find Trump's suggestion just as foolish and misguided.

DarkShadow
12-10-2015, 03:20 PM
Wow dude, just wow. The worst terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11 and you find a way to make humor about it. Indeed...

Humor?

Apparently the FBI doesn't think it's very funny since they're still investigating Marquez:

http://abc7.com/news/fbi-investigates-possible-2012-terror-plot-from-farook-and-neighbor/1116785/

What would've been funny was to use this attack as a platform to spew xenophobic views against Muslims, and saying that the US should create a directory to keep track of "all of them" and by refusing access to everyone, by having customs agents ask if they were Muslim as they entered the country, and if they said yes, to send 'em back.

My joke pales in comparison to the Oompa Loompa's reaction to the terrorist plot, the SAME Oompa Loompa your party is about to elect as your front runner in 2016.

Talk about humor....

Lady Quagga
12-10-2015, 04:15 PM
Don't lie. If I hadn't had to retie, you wouldn't have gotten d!ck under those windy conditions.

Who are you kidding? I seem to recall YOU casting on MY spot (and poaching the second smallie which by all rights should have been mine), while I was releasing the first one and retying. I also remember our friend asking "Heeeeey, what's he uuuusing DS?" once I figured out what they were biting on. Good times.

hookdfisherman
12-11-2015, 11:13 AM
.



........back to the original topic of this thread.....





...........please ,this muslim in christians clothing ,came as the savior and has done nothing but try to destroy this counrty ........a bullet isnt good enough for this pile of crap.............






a word of caution


probably not a good idea to threaten (with a bullet, no less) this one. he already wants everyone's guns, if he sees this, he will definitely come after yours.

what's that saying about "prying cold dead fingers"?

testing this theory is not a good idea.






.

DarkShadow
12-11-2015, 03:10 PM
With Donald Trump’s ruinous domination of the Republican primary polls showing no signs of abating, top leaders in the GOP are reportedly (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-preparing-for-contested-convention/2015/12/10/d72574bc-9f73-11e5-8728-1af6af208198_story.html?postshare=5821449782081267&tid=ss_tw) now preparing for the possibility of a contentious brokered convention next year in Cleveland.

If that happens, a small group of wealthy donors and die-hard loyalists close to Mitt Romney will be ready with a strategy to win him the nomination from the convention floor.

It's like a torrential flood, or a Chubs with a magnifying glass, invaded the GOP ant hill.

This shiite is priceless...look at the party trying to hold on as a guy in Cheeto Skin holds their head down inside a toilet bowl and they know nothing more than to hold hands:

http://i.imgur.com/9h1Em4m.gif

HawgZWylde
12-11-2015, 04:44 PM
Humor?

Apparently the FBI doesn't think it's very funny since they're still investigating Marquez:

http://abc7.com/news/fbi-investigates-possible-2012-terror-plot-from-farook-and-neighbor/1116785/

What would've been funny was to use this attack as a platform to spew xenophobic views against Muslims, and saying that the US should create a directory to keep track of "all of them" and by refusing access to everyone, by having customs agents ask if they were Muslim as they entered the country, and if they said yes, to send 'em back.

My joke pales in comparison to the Oompa Loompa's reaction to the terrorist plot, the SAME Oompa Loompa your party is about to elect as your front runner in 2016.

Talk about humor....

Lol, my party? Hey DS remember? I'm not a republican.

Ok DS, with what you say, what would be your course of action if you were elected president? What would you do knowing that a quasi religious/political entity who is determined to destroy our country, has declared war on our country, are already in the country, has already attacked our country and are entering our country with aplomb?

HawgZWylde
12-11-2015, 04:50 PM
It's like a torrential flood, or a Chubs with a magnifying glass, invaded the GOP ant hill.

This shiite is priceless...look at the party trying to hold on as a guy in Cheeto Skin holds their head down inside a toilet bowl and they know nothing more than to hold hands:

http://i.imgur.com/9h1Em4m.gif


A third party may just have a shot in this election. If the repubs pull that, it's over for the establishment. Are you voting for Hillary DS? If so, why? Knowing how corrupt the Clinton machine is...

etucker1959
12-11-2015, 04:51 PM
Lol, my party? Hey DS remember? I'm not a republican.

Ok DS, with what you say, what would be your course of action if you were elected president? What would you do knowing that a quasi religious/political entity who is determined to destroy our country, has declared war on our country, are already in the country, has already attacked our country and are entering our country with aplomb?
Uh Uh Uh !!!!!!! Tag me, Tag me, "I want to answer those questions."

HawgZWylde
12-11-2015, 05:18 PM
Uh Uh Uh !!!!!!! Tag me, Tag me, "I want to answer those questions."

No Tucker, you gotta wait in line. I don't want you to give him any ideas...

DarkShadow
12-11-2015, 05:40 PM
Lol, my party? Hey DS remember? I'm not a republican.
That's the new tag line being uttered by Republicans everywhere. I should make bumper stickers.


What would you do knowing that a quasi religious/political entity who is determined to destroy our country, has declared war on our country, are already in the country, has already attacked our country and are entering our country with aplomb?

1. Ask them if they are Muslim.
2. If they answer yes, then I won't let them in.
3. Tada!

Lady Quagga
12-11-2015, 06:05 PM
That's the new tag line being uttered by Republicans everywhere.

Especially from those astroturf, self-professed "constitutional conservatives". (bwahahahahahahahaha)


1. Ask them if they are Muslim.
2. If they answer yes, then I won't let them in.
3. Tada!

You forgot:


4. ......
5. Profit!

Bernie Sanders makes an excellent point regarding Comb-over's recent emesis:


I'll tell you what does worry me. Ever since Trump has been opening his mouth, you're seeing all these bitter people, latent racists who are becoming emboldened. A few months ago we were supposed to hate Mexicans. Now we're supposed to hate Muslims. And that kind of crap is not going to work in the United States of America.

What we have got to do immediately is to say that racism and xenophobia are totally unacceptable and we will stand with Muslims and undocumented people in this country. We can't allow racism and xenophobia to gain traction.

Now, I don't particularly agree with Sander's position on illegal immigration - not that I am scapegoating illegal aliens for all our country's ills, but I don't believe we can talk about amnesty without also including serious immigration reform. But Sander's hits the mark - Trump is playing to the basest instincts of the right; it's the same mentality which dislocated thousands of Japanese-Americans and placed them in concentration camps.

HawgZWylde
12-11-2015, 06:31 PM
That's the new tag line being uttered by Republicans everywhere. I should make bumper stickers.

It certainly will be if the establishment RINOs nominate Romney over the majority republican voters wishes. As for me, I've been one for several years now.




1. Ask them if they are Muslim.
2. If they answer yes, then I won't let them in.
3. Tada!

Why didn't you just plead the 5th? I didn't really expect an honest answer...

Lady Quagga
12-11-2015, 07:04 PM
It certainly will be if the establishment RINOs nominate Romney over the majority republican voters wishes. As for me, I've been one for several years now.

RINO
noun

Pejorative used by right-wing extremists to denigrate their former party's members who fail to march in lockstep with their batsh!t views.


Why didn't you just plead the 5th? I didn't really expect an honest answer...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-nFIjc2-NDAc/Tw4FqQuNNaI/AAAAAAAAAlU/OhuivJ7u6xc/s1600/worf-startrek-facepalm.gif

HawgZWylde
12-11-2015, 07:56 PM
RINO
noun

Pejorative used by right-wing extremists to denigrate their former party's members who fail to march in lockstep with their batsh!t views.



http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-nFIjc2-NDAc/Tw4FqQuNNaI/AAAAAAAAAlU/OhuivJ7u6xc/s1600/worf-startrek-facepalm.gif

So your boy toy can't respond for himself eh Quagga? Gotta have the Quagga security detail does he. Poor little guy.

If believing in our founders vision is considered extremist then so be it. I'll wear it and wear it proudly. But what you say is indeed quite telling of yourself.

God Bless America, may she survive the likes of you Quagga...

Lady Quagga
12-11-2015, 08:41 PM
So your boy toy can't respond for himself eh Quagga? Gotta have the Quagga security detail does he. Poor little guy.

I believe DS did respond for himself. You of course, replied in your typical clueless manner. Hence my reply. I know it's hard but try to keep up, will ya?


If believing in our founders vision is considered extremist then so be it. I'll wear it and wear it proudly. But what you say is indeed quite telling of yourself.

Spare me your presumptuous - not to mention inaccurate - opinion on what our founding fathers envisioned. I've told you this before: your notion of "constitutional conservatism" has never existed - in fact, it is the very NATURE of our Constitution which has allowed federalism to exist as it now does, for better or for worse.


God Bless America, may she survive the likes of you Quagga...

Typical right-wing doomsayer rhetoric.

DarkShadow
12-11-2015, 09:08 PM
So your boy toy can't respond for himself eh Quagga? Gotta have the Quagga security detail does he?

Chubs,

The fact that your arguments can be debunked by anybody with half a brain says more about you, than it does about me. The fact that anyone can take swings at your low hanging fruit doesnt say anything about me.

Vote for Trump, take a deep breathe. Itll be ok.

DarkShadow
12-11-2015, 09:46 PM
And speaking of low hanging fruit, please respond to the intelligent responses instead of cherry picking the less than intelligible ones for you to pound the podium.

Its funny that when a real point gets raised, u either leave Dodge or go find someone else's response to quote and respond to, ignoring the direct responses that have been served your way.

HawgZWylde
12-11-2015, 10:20 PM
Chubs,

The fact that your arguments can be debunked by anybody with half a brain says more about you, than it does about me. The fact that anyone can take swings at your low hanging fruit doesnt say anything about me.

Vote for Trump, take a deep breathe. Itll be ok.

You haven't debunked any of my arguments. All you and Quagga do is respond with your cute innuendos and ad hominem attacks. I suppose it makes you feel smart but it really shows your complete lack of an iota of common sense. As I've said before, I haven't thrown my support for any candidate but when I do I'll let ya know.

Chubs? Where does this come from? Does name calling make you feel manly? Sure, I gained some weight when I had my cancer removed a few years back. Due to where it was I couldn't work therefore I gained weight. But I have lost nearly all of it especially after my last hospitalization a little over a month ago. You been taking pictures of me like your other lover in mind Hook'd? Man, I sure have some stalkers around here. Glad I'm in your heads fool...

HawgZWylde
12-11-2015, 10:26 PM
And speaking of low hanging fruit, please respond to the intelligent responses instead of cherry picking the less than intelligible ones for you to pound the podium.

Its funny that when a real point gets raised, u either leave Dodge or go find someone else's response to quote and respond to, ignoring the direct responses that have been served your way.

LMAO! This is funny. I don't run from anyone, especially you or your other half Quagga. If I don't respond it's because the post wasn't worthy of my time and effort, sweetheart...

Lady Quagga
12-11-2015, 10:39 PM
All you and Quagga do is respond with your cute innuendos and ad hominem attacks.

This is patently false. I've pointed out (for example) the folly of your bullsh!t "founding fathers" argument on this thread and others, and not once have you ever been able to address it. For someone so sure of his convictions, you've certainly avoided defending them. (Not that you would have any success doing so.)


I don't run from anyone, especially you or your other half Quagga. If I don't respond it's because the post wasn't worthy of my time and effort, sweetheart...

See my statement above. Don't try passing off your inability to respond with not wanting to do so.

HawgZWylde
12-11-2015, 10:50 PM
The Obama administration has been marred by debt, scandals, foreign policy failures, and an overall fragmentation of this country. He has plunged the United States into an abyss of economic debt that will create generations of American servitude paying off his wayward spending endeavors. The Red, White and Blue’s epitaph will read like a litany of failures perpetrated on both the American people and the world by this president:

Scandals:

IRS targets Obama’s enemies

Benghazi

Spying on the AP

The ATF “Fast and Furious” scheme

Sebelius demands payment

The Pigford Agriculture Department Scandal

The General Services Administration Las Vegas Spending Spree.

Veterans Affairs in Disney World and neglecting vets

Solyndra

10 The New Black Panthers Voter Intimidation

Waging war by attacking Libya without Congressional approval.

Biden bullies the press

I’ll pass my own laws

The hacking of Sharyl Attkisson’s computer

Obama’s LIES about the Affordable Care Act

NSA spying on American people

Foreign Policy

Lack of solidarity with Israel

Disaster with the Arab Spring

Crimea

Leaving Iraq too soon and letting ISIS take over

Handling of Syrian Red Line

Calling ISIS “JV”

Returning the bust of Churchill to the Brits

Lack of Confidence by NATA nations

Domestic Policy

Failure to secure the Border

Illegals bringing guns, drug and diseases through the southern border

Bowe Bergdahl swap

Passing on the keystone pipeline

8 Trillion dollars more in debt

Vast expansion of government

Racial Division at all-time high

Disrespect for Cops

Failed economic stimulus plan

Constant disregard for the Constitution and tyrannical rule

China overtook America as world’s largest economy

Double Downgrade

Housing policies failed to stop foreclosures

Price of healthcare has drastically risen for those purchasing it

Education policies failed to curb college costs

Highest percentage of Americans on Food Stamps and Medicaid

Record 92,898,000 Americans over 16 years not working

Lowest Labor Force participation rate of 62.7%

Denying the notion of American Exceptionalism

Securing the Olympics for Chicago in 2016

Naming numerous Communists/Socialists/Progressives to Czar Positions

Thankfully there's a little less than 13 months left in this clown car drivers term left. But I fear the damage this idiot and his clown posse has done to our nation domestically and internationally could quite possibly be irreparable. Let's just pray he doesn't get us into WWIII before he leaves office. So far it's always a progressive democrat in office when world wars break out...

HawgZWylde
12-11-2015, 11:12 PM
This is patently false. I've pointed out (for example) the folly of your bullsh!t "founding fathers" argument on this thread and others, and not once have you ever been able to address it. For someone so sure of his convictions, you've certainly avoided defending them. (Not that you would have any success doing so.)




See my statement above. Don't try passing off your inability to respond with not wanting to do so.

The only one here full of "bullsh!t" is you troll. You're a freaking cyber stalker, period. I've responded to your spun nonsense many times over the years but you lack the common sense to absorb it. Same goes for your tree fruit picker buddy. As for your last bunch of dribble re: constitutional conservative, I'll respond when I feel like it, not on your demand. Besides, I just like to see how much you'll run your imagined elitist piehole before I do. Nighty night darlin.......

DarkShadow
12-11-2015, 11:20 PM
The only one here full of "bullsh!t" is you troll. You're a freaking cyber stalker, period. I've responded to your spun nonsense many times over the years but you lack the common sense to absorb it. Same goes for your tree fruit picker buddy. As for your last bunch of dribble re: constitutional conservative, I'll respond when I feel like it, not on your demand. Besides, I just like to see how much you'll run your imagined elitist piehole before I do. Nighty night darlin.......

http://replycandy.com/wp-content/uploads/Harrison-Ford-He-Mad.jpg

hookdfisherman
12-11-2015, 11:35 PM
Chubs? Where does this come from? Does name calling make you feel manly? Sure, I gained some weight when I had my cancer removed a few years back. Due to where it was I couldn't work therefore I gained weight. But I have lost nearly all of it especially after my last hospitalization a little over a month ago. You been taking pictures of me like your other lover in mind Hook'd? Man, I sure have some stalkers around here. Glad I'm in your heads fool...









who's in whose mind? lol






















don't blame ds for "chubs", that's all me... (think gomer pyle and say the next sentence) it is what it is... lol



here's a pic ds and i took yesterday after the wifey poo sent you to your couch. that richard simmons you wuz recordin, again?, to be used as background lighting and noise distortion for a late night tryst after a few more cold ones with your BUD??! woo hooo for juuuu or is that jew?

47342

seeing your recent pic, it doesn't look like ya lost any weight, imma have ta call the cheer squad ladies and ask for their opinion, k?










Does name calling make you feel manly?



...like your other lover in mind Hook'd?

I sure have some stalkers around here.

Glad I'm in your heads fool...







hmmm,,,,,,,,, name calling????????........... yeah...........!!!!!!!!
you must be feelin puuuurrrrrdy manly rights 'bout now




don't worry, ds wasn't really there for you and your buddy's pictorial. i actually stalked those off the net under "hawgswylde" or some such moniker. lol

oh wait sorry it was found searching "chubs", and look... you two came up! (google chubs images and you two come up, seriously) LOL






glad you're kickin' the cancer, it'd be a shame not catch the chub sucker-fish around here anymore. but a little advice, keep at that treadmill will ya CHUBS? ...







.

Lady Quagga
12-12-2015, 01:14 PM
The only one here full of "bullsh!t" is you troll. You're a freaking cyber stalker, period. I've responded to your spun nonsense many times over the years but you lack the common sense to absorb it. Same goes for your tree fruit picker buddy. As for your last bunch of dribble re: constitutional conservative, I'll respond when I feel like it, not on your demand. Besides, I just like to see how much you'll run your imagined elitist piehole before I do. Nighty night darlin.......

Sorry Hoggy, but not once, not ever, have you been able to successfully respond to ANYTHING I've addressed of a political nature.

You can postpone any weak response for a later time; it won't change the outcome. Any more than calling me a troll or stalker will.

I'm mildly interested in what response you come up with regarding your bullsh!t "constitutional conservative" angle. But since we are all waiting for when you "feel like it", and given your total lack of meaningful response over the last few YEARS regarding this and similar subjects, I'm not holding my breath.

etucker1959
12-12-2015, 03:36 PM
who's in whose mind? lol






















don't blame ds for "chubs", that's all me... (think gomer pyle and say the next sentence) it is what it is... lol



here's a pic ds and i took yesterday after the wifey poo sent you to your couch. that richard simmons you wuz recordin, again?, to be used as background lighting and noise distortion for a late night tryst after a few more cold ones with your BUD??! woo hooo for juuuu or is that jew?

47342

seeing your recent pic, it doesn't look like ya lost any weight, imma have ta call the cheer squad ladies and ask for their opinion, k?















hmmm,,,,,,,,, name calling????????........... yeah...........!!!!!!!!
you must be feelin puuuurrrrrdy manly rights 'bout now




don't worry, ds wasn't really there for you and your buddy's pictorial. i actually stalked those off the net under "hawgswylde" or some such moniker. lol

oh wait sorry it was found searching "chubs", and look... you two came up! (google chubs images and you two come up, seriously) LOL






glad you're kickin' the cancer, it'd be a shame not catch the chub sucker-fish around here anymore. but a little advice, keep at that treadmill will ya CHUBS? ...







.
Hey Hook, I'm the guy on the left in the photograph!!!! So what!!!!! By the way, what do you look like???? But more important, "what does your women look like?????" Inquiring minds want to know?????? Mine is 5'1 110 lbs long blonde hair and blue eyes. She is 48 years old and can probably out fish you!!!!!!

hookdfisherman
12-12-2015, 07:57 PM
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Hey Hook, I'm the guy on the left in the photograph!!!! So what!!!!! By the way, what do you look like???? But more important, "what does your women look like?????" Inquiring minds want to know?????? Mine is 5'1 110 lbs long blonde hair and blue eyes. She is 48 years old and can probably out fish you!!!!!!










i know of only one thing, concerning the great sport of angling, she can do better than me...















































































finding little worms...















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etucker1959
12-12-2015, 10:20 PM
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i know of only one thing, concerning the great sport of angling, she can do better than me...















































































finding little worms...















.
That still doesn't answer my questions?????? For you can tell a lot about a man by the quality of women he can attract!!!!!!!!

hookdfisherman
12-13-2015, 01:38 AM
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i know of only one thing, concerning the great sport of angling, she can do better than me...















































































finding little worms...















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think about that the next time you watch a "little bleached bluegill" inhale your grub, bub.


:Food:







.

hookdfisherman
12-13-2015, 01:44 AM
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but, please don't think about that little yellow happy face sucking on that little brown bottle, just don't!




ok?



thanks.















,

HawgZWylde
12-13-2015, 10:31 AM
Sorry Hoggy, but not once, not ever, have you been able to successfully respond to ANYTHING I've addressed of a political nature.

You can postpone any weak response for a later time; it won't change the outcome. Any more than calling me a troll or stalker will.

I'm mildly interested in what response you come up with regarding your bullsh!t "constitutional conservative" angle. But since we are all waiting for when you "feel like it", and given your total lack of meaningful response over the last few YEARS regarding this and similar subjects, I'm not holding my breath.

Lol, changed your post again eh Quagga? You did some Googling concerning "conservative constitutionalism"? This post is a bit "different" than the last one you posted just a little after 5:00am yesterday. No big deal.

I like the way you set up your arguments, it's damned if you do, damned if you don't. Indeed, trolling at it's best. And yes Quagga, I've almost always addressed your ludicrous trolling, I find it amusing your obsession of having to get the last word in, and more amusing your elitist psychosis of actually believing you have anything on me. See, I could care less, you may be "smart", you may be "educated", but you gravely lack sincerity and common sense. Your propensity to thread jack and turn these threads into a you vs me fest shows your complete lack of character and respect for the OP, and the other posters who wish to remain on topic of said given threads.

Ok, enough of the "you vs me" thing. Yes, the term "constitutional conservatism" is a fairly new one. It is the result of people like me who are sick and tired of the "establishment" RINOs and the neo-conservatives drift further and further to the left of center of traditional American politics. Constitutional conservatism is exactly what it says it is, governance according to the constitution. Constitutional conservatives believe that the powers of the federal government are limited. We want a return of power to the states. We want a return to fiscal sanity. We believe the true power to govern belongs to the states, and that the growing power of the federal government is unconstitutional. We believe that the federal government has gone way to far with taxation, regulation and mandate. We believe the "nanny state" and crony capitalism(fascism light) is seriously and fatally damaging our nation. We believe affirmative action is just as wrong as the massive corporate bailouts that have occurred as of late. We believe one has just as much of a right to succeed as does fail. We believe individual rights take precedence over the rights of the collective. We believe life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are God given rights, just as the right to defend oneself is. The right to bear arms is unquestionable as is the right to freedom OF religion.

You get the picture, I need not go any further here. If you truly wish to learn more, which I doubt, Google it. I'm not wasting my time on some psychotic troll who is hell bent on character assassination. If that is your lust, then have at it homey. But don't expect me to play along with your game. I owe you nothing, I'm not here to prove anything other than voice my opinion to the thread I happen to respond to. If you don't like that, TFB moron.

Brent
12-14-2015, 12:10 PM
Damn! I thought missed you missed up inbred single minded idiots. Haven't been around for months and decided to check in and...tada! There's all of the same hate spewing bigoted a$$holes as always.
Thanks for the reminder why I stopped coming on this site.
Bye, bye for another few months.
Maybe someone will come up with something new and intelligent to say other than saying how stupid everyone else is for not believing their convoluted views and name calling.
It's like a second grade political debate. Grammar and spelling included.
Everyone on here if really proof of just how screwed up this country has become. Really sad.

etucker1959
12-14-2015, 12:50 PM
Damn! I thought missed you missed up inbred single minded idiots. Haven't been around for months and decided to check in and...tada! There's all of the same hate spewing bigoted a$$holes as always.
Thanks for the reminder why I stopped coming on this site.
Bye, bye for another few months.
Maybe someone will come up with something new and intelligent to say other than saying how stupid everyone else is for not believing their convoluted views and name calling.
It's like a second grade political debate. Grammar and spelling included.
Everyone on here if really proof of just how screwed up this country has become. Really sad.
Let me take your last sentence and expand it's true meaning.

Everyone on here is real proof (I corrected your wording) of just how screwed up this country has become. Really sad.

If you were to talk to people in the street and ask them what they truly believe in, "it's really not all that bad!!!" It's pretty Liberal by nature. However, that doesn't translate in who get's elected and what issues Washington is talking about. The problem is, "those same people don't vote." The ones who do vote are more or less part of the yea who element. Same goes on this Web site, less then 20% of the people will say anything nice about Obama. Yet those same people won't admit they think Trump would do as good or better job then Obama. Yet Obama to the same vocal people is the worst President they have ever seen. It's not the people in our country are all screwed up as you say. It's the fact that people won't put their voice or their vote where it counts!!!!! Maybe you're part of that group???? Only you know for sure.

Brent
12-14-2015, 01:03 PM
It's not just a right to vote. It's an obligation to vote.
Or just shut the hell up about anything that's going on. How can you complain if you didn't bother to vote.
I guess I'm the minority that supports our president no matter if it's the one I preferred or not. The hatred towards this president is unlike anything I've ever witnessed in all of my years.
The only reason I can come up with is that he's black. No other reason explains it. He's done no worse than a lot of presidents.
He hasn't done any of the horrible things everyone said he would do yet people on this site said out and out that they'd like to put a bullet in him.
To those people, please do all Americans a favor and leave, because that kind of hateful talk only makes our country weaker not to mention it's the talk of a traitor not a true American.

etucker1959
12-14-2015, 01:08 PM
It's not just a right to vote. It's an obligation to vote.
Or just shut the hell up about anything that's going on. How can you complain if you didn't bother to vote.
I guess I'm the minority that supports our president no matter if it's the one I preferred or not. The hatred towards this president is unlike anything I've ever witnessed in all of my years.
The only reason I can come up with is that he's black. No other reason explains it. He's done no worse than a lot of presidents.
He hasn't done any of the horrible things everyone said he would do yet people on this site said out and out that they'd like to put a bullet in him.
To those people, please do all Americans a favor and leave, because that kind of hateful talk only makes our country weaker not to mention it's the talk of a traitor not a true American.
I totally agree with you about much of the hatred toward Obama is because he's Black!!!!! The Tea Party magically came into existence right after Obama was elected. Coincidence I doubt it!!!!!!

hookdfisherman
12-14-2015, 05:23 PM
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it's like a second grade political debate. Grammar and spelling included.
Everyone on here if really proof of just how screwed up this country has become. Really sad.



.



damn! I thought missed you missed up inbred single minded idiots. Haven't been around for months and decided to check in and...tada! There's all of the same hate spewing bigoted a$$holes as always.
Thanks for the reminder why i stopped coming on this site.
Bye, bye for another few months.
Maybe someone will come up with something new and intelligent to say other than saying how stupid everyone else is for not believing their convoluted views and name calling.
It's like a second grade political debate. Grammar and spelling included.
Everyone on here if really proof of just how screwed up this country has become. Really sad.


.



Damn! I thought missed you missed up inbred single minded idiots.




lol

that's missed up






.

DockRat
12-14-2015, 07:11 PM
Everyone on here if really proof of just how screwed up this country has become.

The country is screwed up due to bad policies. The "Free Money Crowd" votes for the free EBT card.
$19,000,000,000 in debt interest and goes up ONE MILLION DOLLARS every minute. 60 a day 24/7.
Bush ran up the debt, Obama doubled it. Obama's failed policies, mistakes, lies sunk this country into a deep hole.


Yet those same people won't admit they think Trump would do as good or better job then Obama. Yet Obama to the same vocal people is the worst President they have ever seen.

I believe Trump could do a far superior job than the last 7 years that Obama has failed.



The only reason I can come up with is that he's black. No other reason explains it. He's done no worse than a lot of presidents.
He hasn't done any of the horrible things everyone said he would do yet people on this site said out and out that they'd like to put a bullet in him.
To those people, please do all Americans a favor and leave, because that kind of hateful talk only makes our country weaker not to mention it's the talk of a traitor not a true American.

Lol

He failed to help black americans. Check the numbers. Look at Chicago. Epic failure.
The guy has lied more than any president in decades.
Now he wants to let Syrian refuges in by the hundreds of plane loads. :LOL:

Try fixing the USA first.

http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab255/WhizFan1/OBAMA/obama-7.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/user/WhizFan1/media/OBAMA/obama-7.jpg.html)

Theos
12-14-2015, 07:27 PM
It's not just a right to vote. It's an obligation to vote.
Or just shut the hell up about anything that's going on. How can you complain if you didn't bother to vote.
I guess I'm the minority that supports our president no matter if it's the one I preferred or not. The hatred towards this president is unlike anything I've ever witnessed in all of my years.
The only reason I can come up with is that he's black. No other reason explains it. He's done no worse than a lot of presidents.
He hasn't done any of the horrible things everyone said he would do yet people on this site said out and out that they'd like to put a bullet in him.
To those people, please do all Americans a favor and leave, because that kind of hateful talk only makes our country weaker not to mention it's the talk of a traitor not a true American.

Oh god, here comes the race card, he's part white as well, and was not raised under the same circumstances as most black men in this country, so he can't possibly relate, that's why he goes out of his way to pander and incite racism over criminals that get caught in the act and get killed

Theos
12-14-2015, 07:31 PM
I totally agree with you about much of the hatred toward Obama is because he's Black!!!!! The Tea Party magically came into existence right after Obama was elected. Coincidence I doubt it!!!!!!

"Taxed enough already" has nothing to do with racism, it may have been co-opted by some, but the original intent of the organization was to protest high taxes and run away debt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement

DockRat
12-14-2015, 07:38 PM
You gotta love the race card. Haha
2 term black pResident and the country is going down the tubes (because he is black)
What a frikin joke. He wouldn't get bad press if he would have done 1/2 of the stuff he promised.

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp245/TampaGodzilla/racecard.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/user/TampaGodzilla/media/racecard.jpg.html)

HawgZWylde
12-14-2015, 08:46 PM
You gotta love the race card. Haha
2 term black pResident and the country is going down the tubes (because he is black)
What a frikin joke. He wouldn't get bad press if he would have done 1/2 of the stuff he promised.

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp245/TampaGodzilla/racecard.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/user/TampaGodzilla/media/racecard.jpg.html)

He's definitely taken "fuzzy numbers" to historical new heights.

#blacklivesmatter

Sad that so many don't see the deceptions...

HawgZWylde
12-14-2015, 09:00 PM
Damn! I thought missed you missed up inbred single minded idiots. Haven't been around for months and decided to check in and...tada! There's all of the same hate spewing bigoted a$$holes as always.
Thanks for the reminder why I stopped coming on this site.
Bye, bye for another few months.
Maybe someone will come up with something new and intelligent to say other than saying how stupid everyone else is for not believing their convoluted views and name calling.
It's like a second grade political debate. Grammar and spelling included.
Everyone on here if really proof of just how screwed up this country has become. Really sad.


Damn! I thought missed you missed up inbred single minded idiots.


It's like a second grade political debate. Grammar and spelling included.

Hmmmm

I haven't been here for a few months either. Think anyone missed us?....:Idea:

DockRat
12-14-2015, 10:12 PM
43% Latest job approval rating for Barry. :LOL:


Hmmmm

I haven't been here for a few months either. Think anyone missed us?....:Idea:

Lady Quagga missed you.

The recent terrorist attacks in Paris and San Bernardino, Calif., have vaulted terrorism and national security to become the American public's top concern, and they've helped drive President Barack Obama's job rating to 43 percent -- its lowest level in more than a year, according to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

What's more, 7-in-10 Americans believe the country is headed in the wrong direction -- the highest percentage here since Aug. 2014.

7-in-10 Americans believe the country is headed in the wrong direction -- the highest percentage here since Aug. 2014.
And 71 percent say the shootings and random acts of violence that have taken place this year -- from Charleston, S.C., Oregon and Colorado, to the terrorist shootings in San Bernardino, Calif. -- are now are now a permanent part of American life.
"For most of 2015, the country's mood, and thus the presidential election, was defined by anger and the unevenness of the economic recovery," says Democratic pollster Fred Yang of Hart Research Associates, which conducted this survey with Republican pollster Bill McInturff of Public Opinion Strategies. "Now that has abruptly changed to fear."

etucker1959
12-15-2015, 08:47 AM
"Taxed enough already" has nothing to do with racism, it may have been co-opted by some, but the original intent of the organization was to protest high taxes and run away debt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement
If that's the case, why didn't it come into existence when Bush was running around. He kept putting things on the Credit Card and nobody said Bo!!!!

What a contract diction to protest high taxes and run away debt. You will get run away debt if you don't tax enough to pay for what you bought!!! NEXT!!!!!!!

Lady Quagga
12-16-2015, 06:42 PM
Lol, changed your post again eh Quagga? You did some Googling concerning "conservative constitutionalism"? This post is a bit "different" than the last one you posted just a little after 5:00am yesterday. No big deal.

"No big deal", which is why you went out of your way to suggest some change in my previous post. By all means, feel free to share what change you think happened, specifically in the substance of what I conveyed. Oh that right - you can't.


I like the way you set up your arguments, it's damned if you do, damned if you don't. Indeed, trolling at it's best. And yes Quagga, I've almost always addressed your ludicrous trolling, I find it amusing your obsession of having to get the last word in, and more amusing your elitist psychosis of actually believing you have anything on me. See, I could care less, you may be "smart", you may be "educated", but you gravely lack sincerity and common sense. Your propensity to thread jack and turn these threads into a you vs me fest shows your complete lack of character and respect for the OP, and the other posters who wish to remain on topic of said given threads.

No, you've actually never been able to support your ridiculous premise of "constitutional conservatism", and more specifically the point made that it is a nonsensical right-wing euphemism which tries (and fails) to evoke memories of the Founding Fathers and what their "true" intent was. If anything, it is YOUR use of the term "constitutional conservatism" which lacks sincerity and common sense.

(And please, spare us the hypocrisy - you're just as guilty of "thread-jacking" and veering off the OP - in fact, with your very first post on this thread.)


Ok, enough of the "you vs me" thing. Yes, the term "constitutional conservatism" is a fairly new one. It is the result of people like me who are sick and tired of the "establishment" RINOs and the neo-conservatives drift further and further to the left of center of traditional American politics. Constitutional conservatism is exactly what it says it is, governance according to the constitution. Constitutional conservatives believe that the powers of the federal government are limited. We want a return of power to the states. We want a return to fiscal sanity. We believe the true power to govern belongs to the states, and that the growing power of the federal government is unconstitutional. We believe that the federal government has gone way to far with taxation, regulation and mandate. We believe the "nanny state" and crony capitalism(fascism light) is seriously and fatally damaging our nation. We believe affirmative action is just as wrong as the massive corporate bailouts that have occurred as of late. We believe one has just as much of a right to succeed as does fail. We believe individual rights take precedence over the rights of the collective. We believe life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are God given rights, just as the right to defend oneself is. The right to bear arms is unquestionable as is the right to freedom OF religion.

As I said, "constitutional conservatism" is a euphemism for a political ideology which is hardly new in it's concept. The term exemplifies the far-right's willful ignorance of the motivations behind key writers of the Constitution. The Constitution specifically established a federal system which not only shifted power away from states (vis-à-vis the Articles of Confederation), but was worded to allow for an increase in centralized power. For better or for worse, this system of governance has been upheld for two hundred years. So much for the "constitutional" in your conservatism - a conservatism which has served as custodian for the failure of deregulation and the disparity fostered in part by the inequity in taxes. Conservatives decry the "nanny state" while not batting an eyelash at corporate subsidies (which, by the way, precede this administration); they claim to promote individualism over collectivism, but bend over and spread wide for corporate plutocracy, all whilst screaming "Deregulation!" & "Bailouts" while failing to comprehend how the former was a major cause of the latter.

"Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" are neither rights exclusive to only some, nor rights which may be exercised while denying that same opportunity for others. Hiding behind religion or scapegoating others (in a historical pattern which is as recognizable as our country's economic cycle) who have not enjoyed the same opportunity in this country is disingenuous.


You get the picture, I need not go any further here. If you truly wish to learn more, which I doubt, Google it. I'm not wasting my time on some psychotic troll who is hell bent on character assassination. If that is your lust, then have at it homey. But don't expect me to play along with your game. I owe you nothing, I'm not here to prove anything other than voice my opinion to the thread I happen to respond to.

Oh indeed, I do get the picture. There was never any need to "Google" it - I've had your nonsense pegged for a long time. You claim character assassination - which, when describing you, is impossible. It's certainly your prerogative to voice your opinion and not prove anything - I never expected to you to disprove the very ridiculousness in your use of "constitutional conservatism", and you didn't disappoint in that particular regard.


If you don't like that, TFB moron.

On the contrary, I prefer nincompoops like you continue repeating your narrow-minded stupidity. It makes it easier to point out you and your ilk for what you are.

hookdfisherman
12-20-2015, 04:49 AM
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Chubs,

The fact that your arguments can be debunked by anybody with half a brain says more about you, than it does about me. The fact that anyone can take swings at your low hanging fruit doesnt say anything about me.





You haven't debunked any of my arguments. All you and Quagga do is respond with your cute innuendos and ad hominem attacks.

Chubs? Where does this come from?




don't blame ds for "chubs", that's all me... (think gomer pyle and say the next sentence) it is what it is... lol





Does name calling make you feel manly?



The only one here full of "bullsh!t" is you troll. You're a freaking cyber stalker, period. I've responded to your spun nonsense many times over the years but you lack the common sense to absorb it. Same goes for your tree fruit picker buddy. I'll respond when I feel like it, not on your demand. Besides, I just like to see how much you'll run your imagined elitist piehole before I do.

So your boy toy can't respond for himself eh Quagga? Gotta have the Quagga security detail does he. Poor little guy.
God Bless America, may she survive the likes of you Quagga...


hmmm,,,,,,,,, name calling????????........... yeah...........!!!!!!!!
you must be feelin puuuurrrrrdy manly rights 'bout now















Nighty night darlin.......


it's late and I want to hit the couch.

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Hey Hook, I'm the guy on the left in the photograph!!!! So what!!!!!

I knew it!!!!! your french oooooo la la sent you to da couch and you invited pucker boy over for a little tuck tuck tuck in da puck puck puck!!!!!





like two peas in a pod, extra extra extra large pee pods!!!!!!!!





a definition for your viewing pleasure... hope it helps you to understand what it means and who all's doing the dang thing!!!!! and who does it first !!!! and the most!!!!!

it's like the piggy dude callin' the kettle FAT...


Ad hominem
Whilst in an argument, to avoid the point (thus a cop-out) and to insult the person arguing. Often because the person who results to the insults has no logical/intelligent point, thus they break down to immaturity.





ad ho•mi•nem
ˌad ˈhämənəm/
adverb & adjective
1. 1.
(of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.




somes can handle a good debate, somes cannot...



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etucker1959
12-20-2015, 08:15 AM
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I knew it!!!!! your french oooooo la la sent you to da couch and you invited pucker boy over for a little tuck tuck tuck in da puck puck puck!!!!!





like two peas in a pod, extra extra extra large pee pods!!!!!!!!





a definition for your viewing pleasure... hope it helps you to understand what it means and who all's doing the dang thing!!!!! and who does it first !!!! and the most!!!!!

it's like the piggy dude callin' the kettle FAT...


Ad hominem
Whilst in an argument, to avoid the point (thus a cop-out) and to insult the person arguing. Often because the person who results to the insults has no logical/intelligent point, thus they break down to immaturity.





ad ho•mi•nem
ˌad ˈhämənəm/
adverb & adjective
1. 1.
(of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.




somes can handle a good debate, somes cannot...



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Since when did you EVER show you could debate even a little!!!!!!!!! Definition of little (the size of your manliness)

hookdfisherman
12-20-2015, 10:11 AM
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Since when did you EVER show you could debate even a little!!!!!!!!! Definition of little (the size of your manliness)



I actually never claimed I could, so I don't have to prove that I actually can.

Unlike all you hypocritical wanna be master (de) baters who think you can debate, I don't debate.

So, little? Really only relates to you and your bleached blue eyed bluegill. She's a small one and so are you.

That's not calling all the self proclaimed debaters incapable, I think everyone here is smart enough to decide who can and can't debate. Many here actually can , but a few members truly cannot and all of us here know who you are... lol.

Your post proves you're just a wanna be, you never, ever!!!!! have a clue what others are trying to convey because you're always so wrapped up in your own self glorification.



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etucker1959
12-21-2015, 03:10 AM
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I actually never claimed I could, so I don't have to prove that I actually can.

Unlike all you hypocritical wanna be master (de) baters who think you can debate, I don't debate.

So, little? Really only relates to you and your bleached blue eyed bluegill. She's a small one and so are you.

That's not calling all the self proclaimed debaters incapable, I think everyone here is smart enough to decide who can and can't debate. Many here actually can , but a few members truly cannot and all of us here know who you are... lol.

Your post proves you're just a wanna be, you never, ever!!!!! have a clue what others are trying to convey because you're always so wrapped up in your own self glorification.



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So you admit your not here to debate, then what are you here to do???????? It's not that hard to be honest. I tell you what, "I'll go first." I'm not here in the GD section for my own self glorification as you say. In fact I was goateed to come into the GD section. I joined FNN to talk about fishing and make some new fishing friends. I was minding my own business making friends and writing up my local park experiences. (which were pretty exciting at the time) When a group of people thought it was pretty funny to crap on everyone's fish reports. While another person at the same time said to me, "stop writing about catching 1 lb catfish" and be a man and say your opinion in the GD section. When the dust had all cleared and I was released from the FNN jail. (I didn't take too kindly to that group of people who craped on my fish reports) I decided to do the gunslinger trick of spinning my guns in public. (let me explain that) In the old west a person who had a reputation of being good with a gun didn't want to prove himself all the time. Because one of these day's he might end up DEAD!!!! So they would show off by spinning and twirling their guns in public all the time. (it was all for intimidation purposes) Same goes for me!!! I'm writing this at 3:00 am because I can't sleep!!! I'm too excited because I'm jumping on the sportking this morning to chase some big Yellowtail on the Horshoekelp. If I'm successful, I'll write up a nice fish report about my experience and dare anybody to crap on it!!! For if they do, I'm pretty warmed up to defended myself!!!!! lol Another side benefit of spending a lot of time in the GD section, it helps me with my job. I have to negotiate on behalf of my clients. My last million dollar deal I finished, my client came out smelling like a rose on that deal. I'm his new hero!!!! If I can stand up to some pretty tough people here at FNN, the general public comes off as nothing but a bunch of pussycats!!!!!

hookdfisherman
12-21-2015, 08:09 AM
Oh, no... not any gloating that anyone can see in that post. What's the definition of debate? I can never figure that out... ����

hookdfisherman
12-21-2015, 08:34 AM
Look up self-absorbed, then reread your recent post... correction, most all of your posts. I'm putting you in the brenty boy catagory, you write a lot more than him but you say about the same, maybe even a little less. Less can be more, if you'd do it right!!!!!!! Lol !!!!! !!!!! !!!!! !!!!! !!!!! !!!!!!!!!

DarkShadow
12-21-2015, 03:47 PM
So like, raise your hand if you're voting for The Donald.

DockRat
12-21-2015, 06:28 PM
I'm too excited because I'm jumping on the sportking this morning to chase some big Yellowtail on the Horshoekelp.

So, what happened ? I heard the YT were at the 150 by the rigs ?

What time does the Sportking leave ?
What was the bait ?
I was thinking of jumping on a boat tomorrow. Might have some am rain.

Thanks DR

etucker1959
12-21-2015, 08:36 PM
So, what happened ? I heard the YT were at the 150 by the rigs ?

What time does the Sportking leave ?
What was the bait ?
I was thinking of jumping on a boat tomorrow. Might have some am rain.

Thanks DR
Just got back and DON"T GO!!!!!!! The bait was medium sardines and some live squid. Everything is on the bottom, so it's dropper loops and yo yo jigs. However, everything went into the crapper today!!!! No Yellowtail were caught or seen today by all boats in very good weather. Tonight the weather is going into the crapper for the next 3 days. High winds and bigger swells, so it's best to wait.

DockRat
12-21-2015, 08:41 PM
Thanks for the intel. I already cancelled with my buddy.

etucker1959
12-21-2015, 08:58 PM
Oh, no... not any gloating that anyone can see in that post. What's the definition of debate? I can never figure that out... ����
What's the definition of debate??? That's a good question!!! My definition is, "when two or more people" take the opposite view point of a particular subject and presents facts or opinions to support their position. In this thread does President Obama and his policy's constitute utter failure. Most people who expressed their opinion say the President failed badly. Myself and Brenty feel he wasn't as bad a President as people here on FNN make him out to be. Especially if you compare him to other Presidents and to the people who are now running for the Republican nomination for President in 2016.

hookdfisherman
12-21-2015, 11:46 PM
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What's the definition of debate??? That's a good question!!! My definition is, "when two or more people" take the opposite view point of a particular subject and presents facts or opinions to support their position. In this thread does President Obama and his policy's constitute utter failure. Most people who expressed their opinion say the President failed badly. Myself and Brenty feel he wasn't as bad a President as people here on FNN make him out to be. Especially if you compare him to other Presidents and to the people who are now running for the Republican nomination for President in 2016.




oh geeze, puck







now you gotta look up facetious, rhetorical, and sarcastic (in that order, in case you still need a little help).


i was giving you the benefit of the doubt. i gave you more credit but alas, you don't deserve it.


in giving you the (unearned) credit, i felt you were just feigning ignorance with your fragmented sentences***, misspellings***, minor ramblings and unsupported historical examples (gunslingers scaring other gunslingers by spinning their single action colts?)




come on!


lol, did your pops tell you that story too?





ARE YOU BEING SERIOUS???? (i think you are...)















you don't think that was just a trick for show to entertain an audience? because if i was a gunslinger gunning for my enemy and he started spinning* his gun... i'd just shoot 'em --- DEAD! lol.






ok, back to the debate... does pucker deserve the credit for having a brain or not?

oh wait, there is no debate! puck, you go sit in the corner and contemplate the meaning of YOUR LIFE !!!!!

let me know what you come up with.





and another thing, you're no Roald Dahl... post pics** so we don't have to read your drivel.













Jkiddin' have a merry christmas bud! -- Truly.






hook'd.




*and twirling

**not sure if you're technically advanced evolutionarily (is that a word? Lol) or not, but your communication device is even more advanced than star trek's 'cause it has a camera? That's aka as the picture taking device... you would snap shots of your fish for us with that, fyi.

***I'm guilty of these also :)





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etucker1959
12-22-2015, 08:19 AM
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oh geeze, puck







now you gotta look up facetious, rhetorical, and sarcastic (in that order, in case you still need a little help).


i was giving you the benefit of the doubt. i gave you more credit but alas, you don't deserve it.


in giving you the (unearned) credit, i felt you were just feigning ignorance with your fragmented sentences***, misspellings***, minor ramblings and unsupported historical examples (gunslingers scaring other gunslingers by spinning their single action colts?)




come on!


lol, did your pops tell you that story too?





ARE YOU BEING SERIOUS???? (i think you are...)















you don't think that was just a trick for show to entertain an audience? because if i was a gunslinger gunning for my enemy and he started spinning* his gun... i'd just shoot 'em --- DEAD! lol.






ok, back to the debate... does pucker deserve the credit for having a brain or not?

oh wait, there is no debate! puck, you go sit in the corner and contemplate the meaning of YOUR LIFE !!!!!

let me know what you come up with.





and another thing, you're no Roald Dahl... post pics** so we don't have to read your drivel.













Jkiddin' have a merry christmas bud! -- Truly.






hook'd.




*and twirling

**not sure if you're technically advanced evolutionarily (is that a word? Lol) or not, but your communication device is even more advanced than star trek's 'cause it has a camera? That's aka as the picture taking device... you would snap shots of your fish for us with that, fyi.

***I'm guilty of these also :)





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The gunslinger story came from the History Channel. They had a program called Tech from the Old West, hosted by the Keith and his more famous Kung Fu brother David Caradine. (not to be confused with their other brother of Revenge from the Nerds fame) They interviewed a modern day trick gun artist and he told the story of where the practice of the spinning the guns came from.

That's funny you mention about my writing ability's. I have my own personal joke about that, "I went from totally unreadable to just plain terrible!!!!" But I call that an improvement!!!! lol I think one of the big reasons why there is so many more lurkers then writers here on FNN. (It's a 7-1 ratio of Lurkers to members.) This is because so many people aren't comfortable with their own writing ability's. You really don't have to write much in this life any more and still get along just fine. Here's some food for thought, the two best grammatical writers on here are arch enemies of each other. That's Lady Q and HawgYZ, they both write wonderfully but they sure don't like each other!!!! lol

P.S. I once got the best compliment in the world from someone who really didn't like me very much here on FNN. He said, "I was very entertaining!!!!"

Brent
12-22-2015, 11:58 AM
Look up self-absorbed, then reread your recent post... correction, most all of your posts. I'm putting you in the brenty boy catagory, you write a lot more than him but you say about the same, maybe even a little less. Less can be more, if you'd do it right!!!!!!! Lol !!!!! !!!!! !!!!! !!!!! !!!!! !!!!!!!!!

Does anybody else see the hypocrisy of this comment by this narcissistic idiot?

hookdfisherman
12-22-2015, 01:08 PM
Damn! I thought missed you missed up inbred single minded idiots. Haven't been around for months and decided to check in and...tada! There's all of the same hate spewing bigoted a$$holes as always.
Thanks for the reminder why I stopped coming on this site.
Bye, bye for another few months.
Maybe someone will come up with something new and intelligent to say other than saying how stupid everyone else is for not believing their convoluted views and name calling.
It's like a second grade political debate. Grammar and spelling included.
Everyone on here if really proof of just how screwed up this country has become. Really sad.

Yup.




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Lady Quagga
12-22-2015, 05:33 PM
Remember that idiotic poll (http://fishingnetwork.net/forum4/showthread.php?82886-Is-the-latest-surge-of-the-general-boards-behavior-detrimental-to-FNN-Yes-or-No) posted at the beginning of the year? Well here we are, and in our most recent active thread, we have more replies (224) and views (10,010) than all the threads combined since the last free-for-all (http://fishingnetwork.net/forum4/showthread.php?84373-The-Confederate-Flag). I'd say if anything, these "cancerous" threads have help to bring in ad revenue, not to mention endless entertainment.

DockRat
12-22-2015, 06:08 PM
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DockRat
12-22-2015, 06:16 PM
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DarkShadow
12-22-2015, 06:23 PM
Walter Kronkite has nothing on DockRat when it comes to reporting.

Years from now, scholars will be pining on his posts.

hookdfisherman
12-22-2015, 06:33 PM
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The gunslinger story came from the History Channel. They had a program called Tech from the Old West, hosted by the Keith and his more famous Kung Fu brother David Caradine. (not to be confused with their other brother of Revenge from the Nerds fame) They interviewed a modern day trick gun artist and he told the story of where the practice of the spinning the guns came from.

That's funny you mention about my writing ability's. I have my own personal joke about that, "I went from totally unreadable to just plain terrible!!!!" But I call that an improvement!!!! lol I think one of the big reasons why there is so many more lurkers then writers here on FNN. (It's a 7-1 ratio of Lurkers to members.) This is because so many people aren't comfortable with their own writing ability's. You really don't have to write much in this life any more and still get along just fine. Here's some food for thought, the two best grammatical writers on here are arch enemies of each other. That's Lady Q and HawgYZ, they both write wonderfully but they sure don't like each other!!!! lol

P.S. I once got the best compliment in the world from someone who really didn't like me very much here on FNN. He said, "I was very entertaining!!!!"








I see, the Carradines interview a modern day spinner and twirler who is trying to boost his public image on a tv show and you believe. he wants to believe that tale as much as you. it's probably just not true. gunslingers kill or be killed. porn stars twirl or not twirl. trout eat spinner or not eat spinner.

you do know that tv shows survive only because their ratings permit it, right? gotta make the show interesting so the uninformed keep paying attention; after all, it's money in the bank for the E-N-T-E-R-T-A-I-N-M-E-N-T industry. u get it?




by your standards, we'll all be using crayons and construction paper in no time, lucky for you!




the rest of what you wrote... makes no sense to me... except, your observation of piggy boy's and LQ's writing skills.

your admiration of their excellent writing skills slightly diminishes, if not tarnishes it.



it's like Kwai Chang Caine telling Bruce Lee that his Kung Fu skills are pretty damn good!






i thought your best compliment was when some bonehead said you think pretty highly of yourself, or some such nonsense... i guess you'll take anything said about you as a compliment, lol.

but again, did you google sarcasm? probably not.



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DockRat
12-22-2015, 06:46 PM
We'll all be using crayons and construction paper in no time, lucky for you!


So Hookdfisherman, what is your opinion on the current administration ?
DR

DockRat
12-22-2015, 06:50 PM
Walter Kronkite has nothing on DockRat when it comes to reporting.

Years from now, scholars will be pining on his posts.

Thank you very much DS.

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hookdfisherman
12-22-2015, 06:55 PM
Remember that idiotic poll (http://fishingnetwork.net/forum4/showthread.php?82886-Is-the-latest-surge-of-the-general-boards-behavior-detrimental-to-FNN-Yes-or-No) posted at the beginning of the year? Well here we are, and in our most recent active thread, we have more replies (224) and views (10,010) than all the threads combined since the last free-for-all (http://fishingnetwork.net/forum4/showthread.php?84373-The-Confederate-Flag). I'd say if anything, these "cancerous" threads have help to bring in ad revenue, not to mention endless entertainment.

whose couch did ya write this from? lol



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hookdfisherman
12-22-2015, 07:12 PM
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So Hookdfisherman, what is your opinion on the current administration ?
DR

the worst president and leader this nation has ever seen; well, at least in my 6 decades on the planet. i can't speak for the "other worst presidents" in our history, no matter how much my pops or the history channel complained about them, that's all --->





hear·say
ˈhirˌsā/
noun

information received from other people that one cannot adequately substantiate; rumor.
"according to hearsay, Bob had managed to break his arm"
synonyms: rumor, gossip, tittle-tattle, idle talk; More

LAW
the report of another person's words by a witness, usually disallowed as evidence in a court of law.
"everything they had told him would have been ruled out as hearsay"




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Lady Quagga
12-23-2015, 03:19 AM
whose couch did ya write this from? lol



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Heh, I can tell you I certainly wasn't on any couch shared by these two:

47364

HawgZWylde
12-23-2015, 08:51 AM
Heh, I can tell you I certainly wasn't on any couch shared by these two:

47364

47365

Got fish...?

Lady Quagga
12-23-2015, 10:30 AM
Got fish...?

I most certainly do. :Thumbs Up:

And once again - it's irrelevant.

Ssortasober
12-24-2015, 10:12 AM
We need a viable third party candidate, it was what this country was founded on. Not just A or B, the ballot will have a lot of choices, none of them have the backing like Dems or the Republicans. How did it come to this point and how do we fix it. That should be the conversation.

DEVOREFLYER
12-24-2015, 10:23 AM
We need a viable third party candidate, it was what this country was founded on. Not just A or B, the ballot will have a lot of choices, none of them have the backing like Dems or the Republicans. How did it come to this point and how do we fix it. That should be the conversation.

From another site and I would tend to agree. http://taxicabdepressions.com/?p=1193

Wheeler got quiet for a few moments, and then he said something that I will never, ever forget.

“These people are playing with matches… I don’t think they understand the scope and scale of the wildfire they are flirting with. They are ******* around with a civil war that could last a decade and cause millions of deaths… and the sad truth is that 95% of the problems we have in this country could be solved tomorrow, by noon… simply by dragging 100 people out in the street and shooting them in the ******* head.”

And lemme tell ya, he had the list… he rattled off 25 or 30 names of well-known, prominent politicians, mostly Democrats, but a few Republicans, several members of the current Cabinet, a couple of Obama’s “czars”, a couple of figures from the Bush administration and the Republican establishment, several media company executives and on-camera newscasters, reporters, and pundits, a couple of people who are active in leftist politics but not in elected office… he had obviously thought about this to some degree already.

I was struck by his cold, detached, matter-of-fact tone. I said, “Dude… that’s more French Revolution than American Revolution. Do you really think that is the way to go?”

Wheeler said, “I believe in efficiency and economy of action. You wouldn’t trade one hundred of those criminal bastards for ten million of your fellow Americans?”

I don’t remember if I actually answered out loud, but in my my head, the answer was, “Yeah, I probably would…”

DarkShadow
12-24-2015, 11:09 AM
From another site and I would tend to agree.

...Wheeler said, “I believe in efficiency and economy of action. You wouldn’t trade one hundred of those criminal bastards for ten million of your fellow Americans?”

I don’t remember if I actually answered out loud, but in my my head, the answer was, “Yeah, I probably would…”

Wow, advocating political assassinations under the guise of "doing good for this country." North Korea and China are that-a-way, bud.

DEVOREFLYER
12-24-2015, 11:28 AM
Wow, advocating political assassinations under the guise of "doing good for this country." North Korea and China are that-a-way, bud.

Get off your lazy *** and read the link for the whole story..

Lady Quagga
12-24-2015, 11:39 AM
Get off your lazy *** and read the link for the whole story..

The whole story? More like the whole anecdote.

It's nothing but an extreme, thinly-veiled version of your typical anti-Obama b!tchfest which tries to offset it's "revolutionary" notions of political mass-murder by suggesting, "golly-gee, this isn't a left vs right issue, or a conservative vs liberal issue, it's an us vs them issue!"

What horsesh!t. Most of that pathetic post reads like an early-nineties UN-conspiracy treatise devoured by idiots who believed we were in imminent danger from black helicopters and blue helmets, and that we needed to muster patriot groups for immediate armed insurrection. Stupid 20 years ago, stupid now.

DarkShadow
12-24-2015, 11:52 AM
Get off your lazy *** and read the link for the whole story..

The whole story?

All I needed to read was:


"...and the sad truth is that 95% of the problems we have in this country could be solved tomorrow, by noon… simply by dragging 100 people out in the street and shooting them in the ******* head.”

“I believe in efficiency and economy of action. You wouldn’t trade one hundred of those criminal bastards for ten million of your fellow Americans?”
I don’t remember if I actually answered out loud, but in my my head, the answer was, “Yeah, I probably would…”

And mind you, I'm just quoting what YOU said.

Why read the "whole story" when you summed up Wheeler's points, plus your agreement to his argument, quite nicely for everyone here?

DEVOREFLYER
12-24-2015, 12:32 PM
DS you obviously did not read the whole story because what you attempted to quote me was in the story. You know copy and paste.

The dirty little secret in politics is money rules. If you are a new Congressperson you are expected to follow party leadership or else and are told so on day one. The or else means they will find someone to finance and primary against you when you are up for re-election. Party big wigs (the establishment) will not assist in helping you fund raise or make election appearances for you.

So the 100 in the list is all about the people doing the rabble rousing to divide and conquer and to keep the status quo with the mainstream media’s help and special interest stirring the pot. In a prior career as a board member of a professional association we had the services of a lobbyist. One thing the lobbyist told me that I will never forget was: “Most politicians cannot be bought, they can only be rented”. Simply put they will take your money (special interest) and do your bidding until a better offer comes their way. And that’s what we face today, something’s will never change unless we want it to change. The classic golden rule where "Gold Rules".

hookdfisherman
12-24-2015, 03:49 PM
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Lady Quagga
12-25-2015, 07:42 PM
The dirty little secret in politics is money rules. If you are a new Congressperson you are expected to follow party leadership or else and are told so on day one. The or else means they will find someone to finance and primary against you when you are up for re-election. Party big wigs (the establishment) will not assist in helping you fund raise or make election appearances for you.

Funny how the far-right is now trying to spin what has been common knowledge for YEARS as a "dirty little secret", to distance themselves from the so-called "establishment" they once embraced.


So the 100 in the list is all about the people doing the rabble rousing to divide and conquer and to keep the status quo with the mainstream media’s help and special interest stirring the pot. In a prior career as a board member of a professional association we had the services of a lobbyist. One thing the lobbyist told me that I will never forget was: “Most politicians cannot be bought, they can only be rented”. Simply put they will take your money (special interest) and do your bidding until a better offer comes their way. And that’s what we face today, something’s will never change unless we want it to change. The classic golden rule where "Gold Rules".

A growing corporate plutocracy, mass media conglomerates, and unchecked lobbying - all brought to you in large part by deregulation, embraced (once again, surprise surprise) by the far-right.

hookdfisherman
12-26-2015, 10:23 AM
Wow, advocating political assassinations under the guise of "doing good for this country." North Korea and China are that-a-way, bud.

While some of the observations seem far fetched I can't deny their possibilities. A lot of crazy things happen and all someone has to do is think them up and poof they can come true. Not all, but once a notion is put out into the universe, who really knows what forces may act upon it and bring it to life.

As far as the assassinations (in china and n korea), those are leadership sanctioned. It's not the masses uprising to crush an oppressive government. It's the leaders killing any subversive thoughts and actions (even within their own rank and bloodline). Those poor people are are being tossed in gulags and tortured and killed, for what? Who really knows but it doesn't sound right to me... Would we be against the masses of North Korea if they got guns and were able to over throw that regime? I doubt it. Sure, don't kill our leaders, we're not nearly in the same boat. That's not to say, it can't happen though.


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hookdfisherman
01-12-2016, 04:31 PM
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Thread: A little reality slap in the face for those delusional people in General Discussion.




Folks he has only 1 year left in office, let's see how much trouble Obama can get himself into in his last year. lol







well, with what's going on with Iran just hours before his final State of the Union... the trouble he's created and is still creating is one huge can that's being kicked down the road...

...even if this arrest of military personnel gets resolved.


other countries are surely feeling the *Dave Chappell Rick James :

"blank" yo couch, "blank!" skit.






*so you're not still in the dark, pucker boy.









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DockRat
01-13-2016, 06:21 AM
Now Obama wants congress to decide since he let the Middle East fall apart.
No mention about San Bernardino, Navy seaman captured by Iran.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iql1alcMWws

Wormguy
01-13-2016, 06:29 AM
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Dock rat is right 100%