View Full Version : The high price of fishing our local lakes.
etucker1959
05-16-2015, 10:03 AM
First of all I'm not talking about Pay lakes!!!! (Irvine, SARL or LNL) I'm talking about the OTHER lakes DVL, Skinner, Perris, Silverwood, Greenvalley, Lake Gregory etc etc. It's come to my attention in reading other posts, that these lakes aren't as affordable as they once were. Well I am going to equate the affordability of these lakes to political philosophy. I think everyone agrees that it takes a certain amount of money each year to maintain any lake. The question is, "who is going to pay for it????" I have been labeled a Liberal Socialist by most members on this board. For I believe that certain parts of the GREAT OUTDOORS should be enjoyed by all citizens regardless of their pocket book. (That's a Liberal Socialist idea!!!) The way to accomplish that is for a little bit of tax's be set aside for just that purpose. I'm normally booed off the stage for suggesting such a thing. The Conservative philosophy is, "why should my tax's go for someone else's benefit????"
Now let's take this back to the high price of fishing our local lakes. THIS IS A CONSERATIVE IDEA!!!!!! The people who fish the lakes, "SHOULD BE THE ONES WHO PAY FOR THE LAKE!!!!" So if you're a Conservative, "YOU SHOULD BE PROUD TO PAY THOSE FEES!!!!!" If you're not proud and still claim to be a Conservative, what does that make you?????? Remember, "I'm a Liberal I think the fees should be affordable to everyone!!!!" My point is you can't have it both ways!!!!
Viejo
05-16-2015, 10:22 AM
So what is a reasonable entrance fee to fish these lakes. Should entrance fees go towards the cost of keeping the gate open?
DockRat
05-17-2015, 09:19 PM
I'm proud to pay the fees. Keeps the riff-raff out. More fish for us.
City Dad
05-18-2015, 01:49 PM
I'm proud to pay the fees. Keeps the riff-raff out. More fish for us.
wait a minute... there are lakes that are riff-raff free???? how is that even possible? but if it's true, I wanna fish there!
Lady Quagga
05-18-2015, 02:15 PM
wait a minute... there are lakes that are riff-raff free???? how is that even possible? but if it's true, I wanna fish there!
I dunno CD - those country clubs in the South have certain requirements you may not meet......
etucker1959
05-18-2015, 02:54 PM
wait a minute... there are lakes that are riff-raff free???? how is that even possible? but if it's true, I wanna fish there!
City Dad, I think I know the closest thing to a public riff-raff free lake. It's Lake Barrett in San Diego!!!!! Why is it close to being riff-raff free???? I'll tell you why, it's in the middle of nowhere, it's expensive to get on the lake. ($170 for a family 0f 4) and a hassle to get tickets. (Big hassle) Plus C&R only and heavily patrolled by DFG. Put that all together and it's pretty riff-raff free!!!!! By the way, the fishing is great!!!!!!
City Dad
05-18-2015, 04:17 PM
I think the price of admission to a lake should be free. The price of leaving the lake should be a sack of picked up garbage.
DarkShadow
05-18-2015, 04:58 PM
City Dad, I think I know the closest thing to a public riff-raff free lake. It's Lake Barrett in San Diego!!!!! Why is it close to being riff-raff free???? I'll tell you why, it's in the middle of nowhere, it's expensive to get on the lake. ($170 for a family 0f 4) and a hassle to get tickets. (Big hassle) Plus C&R only and heavily patrolled by DFG. Put that all together and it's pretty riff-raff free!!!!! By the way, the fishing is great!!!!!!
Somehow I think you missed the levity of CD's post.
CD, you may have to start certain posts with /sarcasm before you start typing.
Lady Quagga
05-18-2015, 05:13 PM
I think the price of admission to a lake should be free. The price of leaving the lake should be a sack of picked up garbage.
Wouldn't work - you'd have some conservative janitor's group coming out against anglers.
"THEY TOOK OUR JOBS!"
etucker1959
05-18-2015, 06:11 PM
Somehow I think you missed the levity of CD's post.
CD, you may have to start certain posts with /sarcasm before you start typing.
Actually I was trying to make a point to all readers. Remember a few months ago people were complaining about letting the lake lice into DVL. The general consensus was people wanted a quiet lake to fish at, with little or no riff-raff (lake lice) allowed. My point I was trying to make was, "the more difficult and more expensive it is to get in a lake." THE MORE PEOPLE IT WILL EXCLUDE!!!!!!
I think the price of admission to a lake should be free. The price of leaving the lake should be a sack of picked up garbage.
Simply brilliant! CD in 2016.
DarkShadow
05-19-2015, 02:36 PM
Simply brilliant! CD in 2016.
I'd counter that with "what happens when there's no more trash to be picked up?" but then I realized that humans are walking trash heaps, so that won't be much of a problem.
I could fish the West Fork for years for free if we instituted that policy.
Lady Quagga
05-19-2015, 03:49 PM
I'd counter that with "what happens when there's no more trash to be picked up?" but then I realized that humans are walking trash heaps, so that won't be much of a problem.
I could fish the West Fork for years for free if we instituted that policy.
You fish the West Fork? I'll bet you'd sooner fish a pay lake before chasing the famous West Fork Diaper Hatch.
DarkShadow
05-19-2015, 03:55 PM
You fish the West Fork? I'll bet you'd sooner fish a pay lake before chasing the famous West Fork Diaper Hatch.
http://mrjohnston.ca/family/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/fenster.jpg
Why you gotta go and do that? I'm trying to make a point.
I'd counter that with "what happens when there's no more trash to be picked up?" but then I realized that humans are walking trash heaps, so that won't be much of a problem.
I could fish the West Fork for years for free if we instituted that policy.
Yea like the trash will ever be removed without reconstituting every weekend. I don't know where it comes from? All those good people that hang out at the lake every weekend certainly would never leave trash behind. Oh well have a buddy working there now, he retired but decided to pick up seasonal work, most workers could give a rats backside but he's a good ole fishermen and can't stand the trash. I've noticed improvements since he's been working there, funny all those other state workers don't really give a damn it seems and they've been working there forever.
Lot's of solutions to the problem but alas Cali is too politically correct and they have no balls to resolve it.
Lady Quagga
05-20-2015, 08:44 AM
I don't know where it comes from?
That would be DS's peeps.
He fly-fishes as part of his penance for their sins. That's what happens when you have Padre Ciudad as your confessor......
DarkShadow
05-20-2015, 09:18 AM
That would be DS's peeps......
You're just mad cuz your relatives still fish by throwing rocks into the water.
http://i.imgur.com/n7KTyj3.gif
City Dad
05-20-2015, 09:22 AM
You're just mad cuz your relatives still fish by throwing rocks into the water.
http://i.imgur.com/n7KTyj3.gif
man, I'd love to show this to Dean over at the Spot... just to see the reaction
City Dad
05-20-2015, 09:25 AM
Simply brilliant! CD in 2016.
A chicken in every pot! no... wait... I think I meant - Every chick is on pot! no... that's not it either... dang. wonder if George Stephanopoulos is free
DarkShadow
05-20-2015, 02:07 PM
A chicken in every pot! no... wait... I think I meant - Every chick is on pot! no... that's not it either... dang. wonder if George Stephanopoulos is free
I like pot. I like chickens. (In fact, I own a few)
Therefore, I should vote for you!
CD, 2016.
Who's your running mate? I vote Hawgz, so that it balances the platform out.
billy b
05-20-2015, 03:23 PM
I think the price of admission to a lake should be free. The price of leaving the lake should be a sack of picked up garbage.
Especially your own
DarkShadow
05-20-2015, 04:26 PM
Especially your own
Yeah CD.
Who's gonna pick up the organic chick pea wrappers and the free range pistachio shells?
Hippie.