Curious Why There Aren't More Pics In Reports ?

[Cameron]

I have not been able to fish in 3 years do to my move off the mountain, so nothing to post :Crying:
I always tried to post pics of fish because it seemed to me that folks dont want to just read a report. Pictures of what you caught or didnt catch seem to lively up a post and gives the reader something to identify with. MORE FISH PORN :Big Grin:

Why dont you post pics???? :EyePop:
Is it because lack of a camera, to hard to post, dont want to give any "VISUAL" clues to your secret spot, or something else ?

I am truly curious as to why this place doesn't have a HUGE amount of pics with almost everyone having a camera on their phones these days.

(on a side note) :High Five: Glad to see less harshness on here these days, seems most of "MY FRIENDS" on here have vanished or dont post. Really would like to see this site be a more positive place for folks to get their fishing news fix.
Maybe a like/dislike button type thing to help folks recognize what others are thinking that are not posting. :Wink:

When I first found this place I thought it was the bee's knee's and love how it breaks down the forums and all the COOL HEADS this site contains. It's helped me in so many ways and I REALLY love seeing pics of fish.
I hope to be around more because I have the itch & I cant scratch it so I turn to FNN for some pics to help "take" me on your fishing trip.

AGAIN THANK YOU FNN FOR HOSTING THIS SITE. :Group Hug:
old pic i havent been
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy151/tina-cameron/FISHING/102_8149.jpg (http://s787.photobucket.com/user/tina-cameron/media/FISHING/102_8149.jpg.html)

[trail blazer]

Great point Cameron!

I for one will try harder to put more pics into my reports,, Your comments seem solid and accurate to me.
Great observation .

TRAIL BLAZER

[seal]

Well put me on the other side of the discussion. Pictures worth nothing and a fish is a fish is a fish, conditions on the water and of the water, lures used, bait activity etc... is what actually helps a fisherman in my mind.

I'm weird that way I guess.

[DEVOREFLYER]

Seal is quite correct in that info is more valuable than a picture. While a picture of a brag fish is nice to see it often serves no purpose other than to feed the fisherman’s ego that caught it and to reinforce the time on the water and experience it took him to catch it.

The time on the water and experience that it took to catch that fish is what that fisherman invested. Often it took many years of time, learning the water and patterns and also many dollars invested in gear, equipment, fees and fuel.

We have to face the fact that the fishing waters in California for the most part are over pressured and often over fished and to broadly post every detail of the catch would bring even more pressure to your “Secret Spot”.

Sadly people on the BB are like people that go to the bank. Some make deposits, some make deposits and withdrawals and some only make withdrawals.

Too often today people do not want to spend the time to learn the craft and want the easy way out. I personally think that “Paying your dues” makes one appreciate what a great sport fishing is and makes the effort to preserve it for future generations.

Here is a pic of a Trout caught at Lake Crowley several years ago. While the picture is great it gives no info about how it was caught.
http://i.imgur.com/ydgCk1I.jpg
For info on the catch it was caught off Sandy Point in 9-13 ft of water. 6wt fly rod, fishing a #18 barbless long shank Crystal Zebra Midge under an indicator 18” off the bottom.

While that info is valuable will it guarantee someone the same results tomorrow, next week or next month is doubtful. There is no substitute for time on the water and experience and it isn’t free.

[seal]

Damn Devoreflyer get outa my head!

[DEVOREFLYER]

Damn Devoreflyer get outa my head!

It's better for me to be in your head than da Quagga being in your head....Just sayin'..

[twin22s]

Formula for good fishing report(IMHO)

Enough info to Inspire others own ideas(not every detail so someone can just copy what you did and where)
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A few pics, one is enough sometimes, Just to prove you were there and did in fact catch that 5 LBer.
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never hurts to throw in a joke or funny story, maybe a Jab at a fellow angler that you personally know. not naming names here but... nvm

Lets face it though Pics do make reports more interesting and real to the reader.

Caught this little guy while testing out the 3" slugo
http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag192/brian_wilson4/Mobile%20Uploads/63867F12-9235-4A2C-9B69-704F1F287EAD_zpsep7du4y4.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/brian_wilson4/media/Mobile%20Uploads/63867F12-9235-4A2C-9B69-704F1F287EAD_zpsep7du4y4.jpg.html)

[HawgZWylde]

No more posting for me after this. I fish every week, sometimes multiple times and used to post more fish reports. I don't post to brag, I post pics because to me and many others it's eye candy, we like to look at fish pics. What's the point of a fishing site if you can't post anything but conditions? One can go to the weather channel for that. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Been a good run, ya'll take care now.

[etucker1959]

No more posting for me after this. I fish every week, sometimes multiple times and used to post more fish reports. I don't post to brag, I post pics because to me and many others it's eye candy, we like to look at fish pics. What's the point of a fishing site if you can't post anything but conditions? One can go to the weather channel for that. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Been a good run, ya'll take care now.
I don't know if anyone has noticed around here, that I'm the number 1 complainer about HATER'S and NAZIS or just plain stupid people criticizing fish reports!!!!!! These people "THINK IT'S THEIR JOB" to be an editor about every fish report given. The usual end results is for the writer of the fish report that's just been criticized giving those famous last words. "THAT'S THE LAST FISH REPORT I WILL EVER WRITE FOR FNN." That's one of the reasons I defended the GD section with vigor when it came under attack. If people give in to the criticism from the peanut gallery around here, "THERE WON'T BE A WEB SITE LEFT!!!!!!!" I personally like this place, so if you want it to survive you're going to have to sometimes fight off the wolves!!!!!!!!!!!

[twin22s]

My intention was to give direction to users not currently posting reports, any report is useful Info, eye candy, or yes show off that pig you caught over the weekend. what good are fish stories if you have no one to share them with. props to all those sharing their successes and failures with us couch fisherman. The way i see it this site is a way to subsidize the fishing addition until the next time we can hit the water ourselves. Party on Wayne!

Some ppl rub others the wrong way but most is all in fun.

[DEVOREFLYER]

Pictures or it didn't happen.....lol

[cutbait]

Great point Cameron!

I for one will try harder to put more pics into my reports,, Your comments seem solid and accurate to me.
Great observation .

TRAIL BLAZER


Oh great!


That means I have to try harder

[TroutOnly]

its easier for people to tell fish stories ,pics tell stories on there own ,and when people manipulate with pics..............

[trail blazer]

Oh great!


That means I have to try harder

WHAT ARE BROTHERS FOR BRO

hay either that OR you share your new DISCOUNTED reel with me!,,LOL

[dpaulus9]

its been about four yrs since i been fishing(long story so wont get into it). havent posted much on here since. but i rarely,rarely take any pics of what i catch. usually my phone is not on me ar tooooo busy catching. hopefully i can get back into fishing as before. i like to read the reports since i can visuallize whats being said. also dont mind the accasional funny stuff either lol

[Stormcrow]

I try to show pics of notable events that happen during a trip. Unfortunately, not all trips are noteworthy. I can go to Perris or DVL and catch 25 fish a day and never post a pic simply because there were no fish over 3 or 4 pounds. I think pic posting gets boring. I love sharing interesting stories though.

[DarkShadow]

I love pics in reports, especially when rigor mortis hasn't set in or the background isn't a freeway.

Here are some good photo tips:

http://www.tackletour.com/reviewtakinggoodpics.html

[Lady Quagga]

No more posting for me after this. I fish every week, sometimes multiple times and used to post more fish reports. I don't post to brag, I post pics because to me and many others it's eye candy, we like to look at fish pics. What's the point of a fishing site if you can't post anything but conditions? One can go to the weather channel for that. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Been a good run, ya'll take care now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FVTdNPvmGI

[DockRat]

Some people fish for the love of it. Others fish for pics. "Look at me Pacman"
Selfies, and too many pictures of themselves is a sign of low self esteem.
Reminds me of my wives sister, she has about 50 pictures of herself around her house. Lol

[cutbait]

Because its a PITA to photobucket and transfer image links over.

Compare that to how easy it is and lurker free Facebook is. There's your downward trend root cause

[Cameron]

Because its a PITA to photobucket and transfer image links over.

Compare that to how easy it is and lurker free Facebook is. There's your downward trend root cause

WINNER, well stated cutbait easy & LURKER/TROLL free. Now lets wait for them.

[cutbait]

Now if there was a simple way to pop a pic in a report as it is to post a pic on FB it might be a little different.

[flyhigh123]

Now if there was a simple way to pop a pic in a report as it is to post a pic on FB it might be a little different.

^ this. Posting pics is too difficult from a phone.

[ZipperWurm]

^ this. Posting pics is too difficult from a phone.

theres a photobucket app that's just as easy to upload pics to it from your phone as it is to facebook...

[cutbait]

theres a photobucket app that's just as easy to upload pics to it from your phone as it is to facebook...

No doubt, but your missing the point.

FNN needs that feature.

your missing the part about going from one tab (fnn) to another (photobucket) then copy then go to the other tab (fnn) paste..

Multiply that process by how many pics in the report.

FNN (vbulletin) needs a better upload feature than dealing with photobucket.

and befote anyonr starts with the there already is an upload feature ...
.. it sucks big time

[DarkShadow]

No doubt, but your missing the point.

FNN needs that feature.

your missing the part about going from one tab (fnn) to another (photobucket) then copy then go to the other tab (fnn) paste..

Multiply that process by how many pics in the report.

FNN (vbulletin) needs a better upload feature than dealing with photobucket.

and befote anyonr starts with the there already is an upload feature ...
.. it sucks big time

Cutbait,

Since I'm not familiar with The Facebooks, how does the upload feature work there? I'm assuming it uses Facebook servers to store the image, thereby using their storage space and ultimately their bandwidth to show and share the image?

[seal]

No more posting for me after this. I fish every week, sometimes multiple times and used to post more fish reports. I don't post to brag, I post pics because to me and many others it's eye candy, we like to look at fish pics. What's the point of a fishing site if you can't post anything but conditions? One can go to the weather channel for that. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Been a good run, ya'll take care now.

Think you jumped off the cliff on this one. Nothing wrong with pictures and nobody said they shouldn't be included. My post even included the caveat that I'm weird that way.

What's really bizarre to me is that you are allowing opinions to bother you. Bad day Hawgz?

[etucker1959]

Think you jumped off the cliff on this one. Nothing wrong with pictures and nobody said they shouldn't be included. My post even included the caveat that I'm weird that way.

What's really bizarre to me is that you are allowing opinions to bother you. Bad day Hawgz?
Pictures and video tapes should not be included in Fish reports!!!! There I said it!!!!!!! Before you start cooking the tar and ripping open some pillows to get the feathers out in prepartion to Tar & Feather me let me explain. I would say a majority of fishermen are a little bit on the paranoid side. So if you show pictures of some nice fish caught with landmarks in the background. Some fishermen feel you are showing too much and this will cause a stampede of Lurkers descending on that lake and kill the bite. Tell me I'm wrong!!!!!! What's even worse is if someone does a video on some lake, especially if your doing some Bass fishing. Some people just can't handle it and they strike out at the OP for doing that report. I personally like pictures and videos with a fish report, but I have a thick skin and can take it. Other people care about what other people think about them and are hurt at the criticism some people throw at them. What do you think happened to HawgZY?????? He wrote a good report with pictures and was so upset at the reaction he said, "GOOD BYE to FNN." I hope he comes back soon!!!!!!!

[seal]

What do you think happened to HawgZY?????? He wrote a good report with pictures and was so upset at the reaction he said, "GOOD BYE to FNN." I hope he comes back soon!!!!!!!

I don't know about Hawgz but I've felt the need to take breaks from this site from time to time. What is key though is that you realize that your own issues drive the need to take a time out or leave more so than what is occurring on the website. For me it's always a challenge understanding the changes in communication styles based on generational differences and the influence that technology has had on communication. Things I write on here that might bother some if said in person don't sound malicious or mean spirited they are just what they are Seal's dumb opinions.

Communication has changed and some of us old dudes still struggle with that, at least I do on occasion.

[Lady Quagga]

I don't know about Hawgz but I've felt the need to take breaks from this site from time to time. What is key though is that you realize that your own issues drive the need to take a time out or leave more so than what is occurring on the website. For me it's always a challenge understanding the changes in communication styles based on generational differences and the influence that technology has had on communication. Things I write on here that might bother some if said in person don't sound malicious or mean spirited they are just what they are Seal's dumb opinions.

Communication has changed and some of us old dudes still struggle with that, at least I do on occasion.

I can't believe I find myself about to defend Hawgz, especially considering there is no love lost between us.

Believe it or not I do in fact fish, and I've posted many detailed reports (including photos) for my fellow anglers - on another site. So why do I refrain from posting reports/pics here? Because most of the participants/lurkers on FNN are unvetted. As a responsible and courteous angler, I find it incredibly disrespectful to exploit another angler's reports for your own benefit. Which is why when I saw Hawgz' DD bass I thought "That's a hell of a nice fish!" and not "Hmm, let me try and triangulate that location so I can fish-out his spot."

However, it's nobody's goddamn business if Hawgz or any other angler decides to include pics in his report. Whether it's something you or I would do is irrelevant. As long as an angler is fishing responsibly, what he chooses to share is none of your concern.

A suggestion for the FNN admins: It would not be difficult to implement a "private" section on the board, and only allow access to members who are properly vetted (i.e., only members can provide recent non-anonymous photos of previous fishing trips they've been on). This would allow for a freer exchange of information among established anglers on FNN, and exclude the lurkers and non-contributors. (And yes, I realize that I'd be excluded from such a section, by my own choice.) Just a thought.

[seal]

We all fish for different reasons. Mine is a passion for the outdoors and the fact I've slowed down some and skiing off cliffs or dropping in on a monster wave would probably kill me these days. I have a few close friends with whom I share pictures with on occasion but normally I just don't feel the need to share them with the world, certainly partially due to the same reasons you stated LQ.

I did not even notice Hawgz picture of the DD hell if I caught a DD largemouth I might even post a pic, somewhere.

[DarkShadow]

A suggestion for the FNN admins: It would not be difficult to implement a "private" section on the board, and only allow access to members who are properly vetted blah blah blah blah

They tried.

Apparently it wasn't such a rousing success as you would think. They even tried doing the blanket "log in only" approach and that got rescinded a few weeks after implementation.

[Lady Quagga]

They tried.

Apparently it wasn't such a rousing success as you would think. They even tried doing the blanket "log in only" approach and that got rescinded a few weeks after implementation.

I don't recall FNN trying to implement a private/vetted user section (but I'll take your word for it). And the "log in only" option wouldn't have stopped lurking or encouraged a better exchange of information.

[ZipperWurm]

your missing the part about going from one tab (fnn) to another (photobucket) then copy then go to the other tab (fnn) paste..


what is this "tabbing out" you speak of? sounds painful...:Cool:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v709/whitedevilTA/Mobile%20Uploads/20150520_003515_zpsiv69fdc9.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/whitedevilTA/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150520_003515_zpsiv69fdc9.jpg.html)

[TroutOnly]

I like camera pics better than phone picks ,and with the right programs is fast and easy ,,so easy even a bob can do it in less than a minute..............

[ToadsToadsOnly]

We are fisherman without pics, a shot of the fish on the scale, video, and a newspaper article next to it with the date it never happen. EVERYONE SHOULD POST PICS we all like fish porn.

[DarkShadow]

EVERYONE SHOULD POST PICS we all like fish porn.

Unfortunately, we live in an area where a picture can result in pressure on a certain lake, river, stream or spot, whose population makes it difficult for an angler do go forth and post a picture without it resulting in a sudden influx in pressure.

I've visited areas across the country where I'd feel it is ok to divulge information, considering the amount of opportunities those areas have. But to assume the same type of courtesy can be applied to this area across the board is a bit short sighted.

[dhntr48]

Some information or a help section on posting pics would be a big help !!! Im a better angler than a computer person !! LOL

[hookdfisherman]

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Some information or a help section on posting pics would be a big help !!! Im a better angler than a computer person !! LOL




Just think, about 10-15 yrs ago, the only pics we saw were posted on a bulletin board at the local tackle shop near the water we fished. (Hell, I still/always look at the picture boards, even today).

Back then, that pic was taken at the time of the catch, we waited until all the frames in the camera were used up, the film was then taken to a photo developer and that took a week or so. Someone then had to take the 4x5 back to the tackle shop where someone else had to get out a push pin and stick to a cork board (after all the praises were duly given, of course). Finally, when we went fishing and took a look at the board, we got to see someone else's fish picture.

Sure, watch your background, don't shoot if there are innocent bystanders (aka points of identification), but if ya got the shot, take it!

Post it!

Today, it's just a few clicks, what could be easier than that?


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[Cameron]

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Just think, about 10-15 yrs ago, the only pics we saw were posted on a bulletin board at the local tackle shop near the water we fished. (Hell, I still/always look at the picture boards, even today).

Back then, that pic were taken at the time of the catch, we waited until all the frames in the camera were used up, the film was then taken to a photo developer and that took a week or so. Someone then had to take the 4x5 back to the tackle shop where someone else had to get out a push pin and stick to a cork board (after all the praises were duly given, of course). Finally, when we went fishing and took a look at the board, we got to see someone else's fish picture.

Sure, watch your background, don't shoot if there are innocent bystanders (aka points of identification), but if ya got the shot, take it!

Post it!

Today, it's just a few clicks, what could be easier than that?


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Well stated. Times have changed and if we dont change with them we will be left behind. Maybe this could be a reason for someone to get better acquainted with the new ways to share things.
Seems to me the guys that come to this site arent the ones trashing our favorite spot. Its the a$$hats that just go and buy their supplies in the way to fish that destroy or fisheries.
Be smarter and open the pic in PAINT and hide any distinguishing markers of your spot. Thanks everyone for the input and participation thus far.
Tight Lines.

[hookdfisherman]

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Well stated. Times have changed and if we dont change with them we will be left behind. Maybe this could be a reason for someone to get better acquainted with the new ways to share things.
Seems to me the guys that come to this site arent the ones trashing our favorite spot. Its the a$$hats that just go and buy their supplies in the way to fish that destroy or fisheries.
Be smarter and open the pic in PAINT and hide any distinguishing markers of your spot. Thanks everyone for the input and participation thus far.
Tight Lines.




yes, "paint" is just clicks away too. so easy, use the digital sharpie button! lol

[all fish]

WHY ARENT PEOPLE POSTING PICS ON SOCIAL MEDIA MUCH ANYMORE YOU ASK?

THIS COMES TO MIND...
https://youtu.be/_Tc6ywqoL6o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tc6ywqoL6o

[Cameron]

WHY ARENT PEOPLE POSTING PICS ON SOCIAL MEDIA MUCH ANYMORE YOU ASK?

THIS COMES TO MIND...
https://youtu.be/_Tc6ywqoL6o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tc6ywqoL6o

your second post is as bad as your first. Troll somewhere else man. Nothing to see here keep moving to another social media site that needs your kind of support.

[all fish]

your second post is as bad as your first. Troll somewhere else man. Nothing to see here keep moving to another social media site that needs your kind of support.


1st off, don't take things personal on the internet Cameron, Its not worth getting worked up over.
You obviously see what issues arise with improper use of social media because you have continued to bring it up in multiple replies & threads you posted.
Question is, what are you "personally" going to do to change it for the better?
Continuing to bring it up & expecting others to do something for you obviously isn't working so you mite want to come up with a new game plan.
I have my own plan of action & it sometimes includes constructive criticism which is often taken as a big "F-U buddy"!
And I'm fine with that because that's how I feel about those people who continue to post locations of publicly shared waters that I fish & am watching these places become over fished & becoming far less productive & in some cases completely unproductive...
Word of advice to all,
Share these good times with your family & close friends & you will continue to have more to share for a lifetime!
Post it up on the web for all to see & likely loose it in the blink of an eye!
I'm not saying don't post anything at all, try to take the pic without landmark or blur out later so you have a good scenic pic to share with family & friends.

Look, If I give someone some constructive criticism & it gives them the encouragement that they need to be more cautious about what they share with the world, not acknowledging the fact that they are laying out a "calling all anglers" welcome matt to not only their fishing spot, but everyone else's who fishes that spot that we all have to share with each other, than I don't see any issue there. Ya someone mite get butt hurt for a day but rest assured, he probably isn't going to post any more pics or video with detailed background & try to say its a "secret spot". And as for me putting in writing what was no less than plain obvious in the pics & video posted as to where those guys were tubing couldn't have possibly added any more pressure to that spot than if I hadn't. I even went on to tell everyone what I was fishing & the location on the lake!
I don't care if people want to fish my leftovers & feed off my scraps! Pfff, Scavenger fishermen... that's all you get if your not going to work for it for yourself & find fish on your own! When people try to follow my current patterns they fail to realize that I don't leave much meat left on the bone & I lick my plate clean! Chances are, if I'm talking about a specific pattern, its probably over by then.

I use to be super polite about it & speak 1 on 1 or in a P.M. on other sites & explain the situation & ask for discretion of location but nobody listens... EVER, so It isn't until their spot is blasted on the web with the freshest attention of every local angler, for them to see what they lost because they put it up on the internet for anyone to compromise. If you aren't a finely tuned angler who is conditioned to fish under heavily pressured lakes than I wouldn't be making things any harder for yourself by adding unwanted pressure to your fishing locations... Hello..... MC FLY!!!

Look at how over populated southern CA is compared to most all other states & how over fished our waters are! This is a very real situation! especially now with social media & its misuse by anglers who only want to post a picture for un-glorified fame from strangers on the internet & don't have the knowledge of the huge numbers of bucket fishermen as well as just plain lazy "thread chaser" fishermen who want it all handed to them who lurk around on all forums with the sole intent on using your fishing spot for their own enjoyment & in a lot of cases as a full time food source for their whole family until its over pressured & or fished out.
I do what I can to protect what I have because I watch our fisheries being destroyed more & more, year after year, & have great knowledge of how uneducated most anglers are on top of the rest who simply just don't give a crap.
All I'm saying is, unless you want to loose it, be careful what you share with strangers who don't care about you or any damage they cause to your fishery!
I try to help other fishermen with proper etiquette but most people don't want to listen & are in too much a hurry to catch fish instead of learn how to catch fish & most don't respect the lake nor do they have the wish to preserve it....

[gwurzel]

Personally I dont add pictures as none of the fish I've caught have been that big. Pretty much everyone on this board has caught bigger, out of the same lake, in the same old spots (Perris - Tyres, Trench, Dam, Water tower etc etc etc). I keep my reports to what I did that day, what bait I used, and how. If it helps someone, great, if it doesn't, oh well. I lurk a lot on this and other boards, yet I wont try and decipher where on a particular lake someone is, what he threw, when, what water temp, etc etc - maybe I'm weird that way, but in the end it'll make me a better angler.

Ymmv

[marc626]

I have not searched this board since January and happened to notice this thread. I have to say that there are more lurks than there are people who participate on this site. Post pics. if you got'em. Crop the pic. use paint or photoshop to delete the background. Whatever. On the other end. People are to quick to respond to what they are reading over the internet in which are just asking for trouble. Learn something. Just because a technique works for others does not it mean it will work for you. Fishing the same spot after a spot was posted is a waste of time, and you are just taking up space. Take the time to learn something new. Learning how to photo-paint backgrounds will give you a few more brain cells that we all loose while standing in the hot sun while fishing. Post pics. raw if you want and ignore the paranoid lurks. You are doing nothing wrong. It's up to you!

[DarkShadow]

Learning how to photo-paint backgrounds will give you a few more brain cells that we all loose while standing in the hot sun while fishing.

Exactly!

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/830/bigfootz.jpg