View Full Version : Mayweather v. Pacquiao
DarkShadow
05-04-2015, 09:41 AM
So, did you actually pay for the match? I'd call it a "fight," but obviously with Mayweather up there, it became an intricate ballet instead of a 'fight,' but I don't understand why people are disappointed.
Although, the ones who are disappointed are 'once in a year' boxing fans who apparently expected a brawl to break out between these two boxers.
I thought it was pretty evident that Pacquiao could not outbox Mayweather, and Floyd wouldn't do anything stupid to risk getting KO'ed. I can't believe there were people who actually thought Pacquiao had a chance, and NOW, I hear some using the "Well 5 years ago it would've been different." And to think during the immediate post fight interview, Pacquiao actually thought he was winning the fight, then hours later, the excuses start rolling in.
I think the people who billed this as "the fight of the century," were more marketing execs, rather than actual boxing experts, but they did a good job of hyping something that everyone should've known could and would never live up to that hype.
Mayweather fought within the rules of boxing and came out the champ. In baseball you can win with small ball or with a team loaded up with steroid injected behemoth's to get the job done. Mayweather won fair and square. I'm not a fan of Mayweather but I really don't get why Pacquiao is so well liked.
I miss the one eared mighty Holyfield my favorite fighter. I'm glad he's coming out of retirement to fight that damn Republican basstard Romney. I've got it going the distance with a slight edge going to Holyfield, he will pull it out on the scorecards unless the judges are all a bunch of Mo's.
DEVOREFLYER
05-04-2015, 10:06 AM
Tommy Hearns vs Marvin Haggler was a real fight from the first second of the first round. Watch a video of that sometime for what a brawl looks like.
Stormcrow
05-04-2015, 10:31 AM
I was rooting for Pacquiao simply because Mayweather is such a pompous idiot....I went to a party where the fight was purchased. We all had a great time. Its hard these days to get excited about a couple 145lb guys tapping each other with leather. My 8 year old is only 40 lbs lighter and almost as tall as both of them.
gogreeenz4
05-04-2015, 11:10 AM
^ and probably whip there *** too!
fishing_freak
05-04-2015, 11:36 AM
All those people who said mayweather was just running around need to get there face slap, hes been doing that for a long time and thats just how the boxing way goes if they dont like it stop watching boxing but yet they still continue to spend there money on it. I was rooting for manny but i give floyd the credit he does what he does best and manny couldnt break the code
Mr T-rex
05-04-2015, 12:55 PM
I respect your opinion. First off, I would never use the argument of a judges score card in Vegas. I have seen too many robbed fights, lets not get started on that topic. I do not take anything away from Mayweathers ability, he is an exceptional fighter with precision in his punches and one of the best defenses in the sport. However, what I am against is him proclaiming himself as the best ever? That is a joke. Sugar Ray Robinson, Muhammed Ali, Oscar De La Hoya, Cesar Chavez Sr all fought the best at their prime and never ran from their opponents, they had a an exciting come forward style and gave the crowd entertainment they deserved and paid for because its all about the fans, they are the ones who make it possible. You hit the subject of money, before Oscar De La Hoya gave Mayweather a chance to fight him, Mayweather was still fighting for free on HBO and he was Pretty Boy Floyd, after that he called himself Money Mayweather. De la hoya could have ducked him or Trinidad but he didn't. However, going back to the crowd being entertained. People were commenting here that it was a boring fight and the fans were upset that they did not see a showdown that explains why he only has 26 KOs in his record. To say that Manny did not bring it is ludacris because Manny was making a valiant effort to make it an exciting fight but everytime you hit Floyd with 2-3 combination punches he hugs or grabs the arms. It makes for a boring fight is all I am saying. If he wants to claim that he technically one, he can say that. That method of scoring works best in the amateurs or Olympic fights but not in the pros. Sadly, he will go down as one of the most skilled fighters in history who rarely engaged toe to toe with their opponents. Such as a epic fights between, Morales vs Barrera, Ali Frazier, ward vs Gatti, Corrales vs Castillo, Taylor vs Chavez the list goes on too bad we cant mention him in that category. He is an intellent business man/ promoter I will give him that.
It sounds like you are judging on entertainment value more than ability T-rex. I'd rather see a baseball game that had a bunch of home runs in it than a no hitter. I'd rather watch a football game that was high scoring than a defensive 10-7 masterpiece. ETC.........................................
Your sentence re: judging in Vegas almost makes it sound as if you might think this outcome was somehow wrong? Now I was smart (certainly smarter than Pacman) and I didn't purchase the fight. I use to get every boxing match I could then MMA became popular and I realized that one night of free MMA matches was WAY better than being worried that the main event of a boxing match might be over in the first round (purchased too many Tyson fights) or that the completely corrupt judging system would somehow taint the results. This match sent boxing backwards or at the very least was not the catalyst they were hoping for.
DEVOREFLYER
05-04-2015, 01:53 PM
Not even close.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mILPqwesNE
DarkShadow
05-04-2015, 02:06 PM
I respect your opinion. First off, I would never use the argument of a judges score card in Vegas. I have seen too many robbed fights, lets not get started on that topic. I do not take anything away from Mayweathers ability, he is an exceptional fighter with precision in his punches and one of the best defenses in the sport. However, what I am against is him proclaiming himself as the best ever? That is a joke. Sugar Ray Robinson, Muhammed Ali, Oscar De La Hoya, Cesar Chavez Sr all fought the best at their prime and never ran from their opponents, they had a an exciting come forward style and gave the crowd entertainment they deserved and paid for because its all about the fans, they are the ones who make it possible. You hit the subject of money, before Oscar De La Hoya gave Mayweather a chance to fight him, Mayweather was still fighting for free on HBO and he was Pretty Boy Floyd, after that he called himself Money Mayweather. De la hoya could have ducked him or Trinidad but he didn't. However, going back to the crowd being entertained. People were commenting here that it was a boring fight and the fans were upset that they did not see a showdown that explains why he only has 26 KOs in his record. To say that Manny did not bring it is ludacris because Manny was making a valiant effort to make it an exciting fight but everytime you hit Floyd with 2-3 combination punches he hugs or grabs the arms. It makes for a boring fight is all I am saying. If he wants to claim that he technically one, he can say that. That method of scoring works best in the amateurs or Olympic fights but not in the pros. Sadly, he will go down as one of the most skilled fighters in history who rarely engaged toe to toe with their opponents. Such as a epic fights between, Morales vs Barrera, Ali Frazier, ward vs Gatti, Corrales vs Castillo, Taylor vs Chavez the list goes on too bad we cant mention him in that category. He is an intellent business man/ promoter I will give him that.
I think you are what Dana White is marketing to. And I get that. Some people would rather watch chess. Some would rather watch checkers.
And hey, it's all good. Like Seal said, he'd rather see a home run derby than a pitcher's duel. I'd rather see the opposite. If I wanted to see an offensive based boxing match, I'd watch MMA.
Or World Star's Fight Compilations, for that matter.
Mr T-rex
05-04-2015, 02:20 PM
I recorded the fight in case anyone missed it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_nsE-czO8M
DarkShadow
05-04-2015, 05:18 PM
Well color me confused? You say "If I wanted to see an offensive based boxing match I'd watch MMA" then what I'm reading from that is you like a boxing match with good defense, which of course is what Mayweather excels in.
I grew up pretty into boxing T-rex. Like many other I got tired of the BS and to me MMA is a breath of fresh air although I see signs of it going the way of boxing sad to say.
Yea I don't go to many baseball games a year anymore, way too far for me to drive, so when I do go I'd like to see the fireworks go off once or twice. Oh by the way what the hell is wrong with the Angels? And Dodgers suck. That is all.
I obviously don't watch a boxing match with defense being the primary focus, but much like in baseball when you have two aces going, you can't sit there hitting beach balls and doing the wave expecting 12 runs being scored. If you want that, there are plenty of other non-professional leagues that you can get your offensive fix in. But to think less of baseball because you might go to a game where a pitching match up breaks out is no reason to think Sunday softball leagues are better because they can light up the score board.
I obviously don't watch a boxing match with defense being the primary focus, but much like in baseball when you have two aces going, you can't sit there hitting beach balls and doing the wave expecting 12 runs being scored. If you want that, there are plenty of other non-professional leagues that you can get your offensive fix in. But to think less of baseball because you might go to a game where a pitching match up breaks out is no reason to think Sunday softball leagues are better because they can light up the score board.
DS I seemed to be in a confused state yesterday, no it wasn't due to any intoxication so I have to chalk it up to age related brain burps. I thought your response was from T-rex so that's why I was confused about what I thought his comments on MMA vs boxing were. My take on pitching duel vs. batting has much more to do with the fact I only get to see a couple games a year in person (long drive from the high desert) and if I go I'm normally in the outfield bleachers, love hanging out in the sun with the rest of the beer drinkers. So since I'm a ways away from the plate it's more fun to see a few blasts come my way. Use to get tickets behind home plate when I lived in the OC but those tickets these days would kill my fishing budget for the year.
Only thing I won't take back is my Dodgers comment, lol. I will admit to coming back to the blue side of things a little more the last couple years, grew up a blue boy, ownership change has me a little more receptive to coming back. I really didn't like what was going on with the Dodgers for several years feel the same way about the Lakers, fair weather fan I guess.
Sorry about the confusion, I tried to delete my response as soon as I figured out I was an idiot.
Back to the fight. Pacquiano is in a bit of hot water re: the shoulder injury that was not disclosed yet he got an injection for it which the drug testers were aware of. Think fans should be more pissed at him than the woman beater Mayweather. Sounds like he had a significant injury. Hell I'd be pissed also if I'd put any money down on him, certainly if fans were aware of it the money changing hands would not be as great and might have affected pay per view ticket also.
Should be suspended. They say he could also be fined, like that will have any impact after the jackpot they just hit. Yea Pacquiano is the good guy, right.
DarkShadow
05-05-2015, 11:08 AM
Back to the fight. Pacquiano is in a bit of hot water re: the shoulder injury that was not disclosed yet he got an injection for it which the drug testers were aware of. Think fans should be more pissed at him than the woman beater Mayweather. Sounds like he had a significant injury. Hell I'd be pissed also if I'd put any money down on him, certainly if fans were aware of it the money changing hands would not be as great and might have affected pay per view ticket also.
Should be suspended. They say he could also be fined, like that will have any impact after the jackpot they just hit. Yea Pacquiano is the good guy, right.
I'm hearing so many random things. First, Pacman's team asked for the cortizone shot days before the fight and was denied by the boxing commission. Then I hear he tore his rotator cuff outright during the fight. (Having suffered from a partially torn rotator cuff thanks to baseball, I can only imagine how difficult it was to actually fight). Then I hear he could get fined, he could get sued.
It's like Days of our Lives here.
In any case, that's why you always hedge your bet. I spent $100 to make $200. Not quite Mayweather figures, but at least I know how to read. :-D
(He's gonna be pissed when they read this to him)
City Dad
05-05-2015, 12:49 PM
I recorded the fight in case anyone missed it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_nsE-czO8M
Well done, T-rex, well done.
fishing_freak
05-05-2015, 01:47 PM
Yes or No
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/05/floyd-mayweather-manny-pacquio-rematch
fishing_freak
05-05-2015, 02:07 PM
How about who cares?then get off this topic if you dont care :)
DarkShadow
05-05-2015, 02:13 PM
Yes or No
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/05/floyd-mayweather-manny-pacquio-rematch
As long as i get 200 bucks for my initial 100 dollar investment on the rematch, then I'm all in.
No sense dropping $100 to lose $100.
That's like betting on the Dodgers.
then get off this topic if you dont care :)
Hey I cared about the first fight just don't care about the second. What they'll be 50 or so by then?
Class action lawsuit being filed against Pacquiao. The stupid gamblers are pissed the smart ones bet on Mayweather.
Life just isn't fair the only guy walking away happy from this is Mayweather it seems. No worries he'll be in jail eventually.
DarkShadow
05-05-2015, 02:21 PM
...the smart ones bet on Mayweather.
It sucks when life caters to the least common denominator.
Where the hell am I gonna get my fishing funds from if your average bettor started rubbing brain cells together!?
etucker1959
05-05-2015, 02:56 PM
It sucks when life caters to the least common denominator.
Where the hell am I gonna get my fishing funds from if your average bettor started rubbing brain cells together!?
Saturday was a good day if you were a smart gambler. The trifecta paid 100 to 1 in the Kentucky Derby with the top 3 horses winning and the Mayweather Pacquiao fight was like taking candy away from babies!!!! By the way, I hit them both!!!!!! lol
DarkShadow
05-11-2015, 10:49 AM
Anybody peep the Canelo fight on Saturday?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LehQX1bbGQk
MarkyMark
05-11-2015, 03:16 PM
Anybody peep the Canelo fight on Saturday?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LehQX1bbGQk
Yes. I also saw the May/Pac fight for the 1st time. All week I've been hearing how Mayweather ran, hugged etc, etc. In my opinion, PacMan didn't do enough to win the fight, he was out boxed.
The Canelo fight was damn good!
DarkShadow
05-11-2015, 03:21 PM
Yes. I also saw the May/Pac fight for the 1st time. All week I've been hearing how Mayweather ran, hugged etc, etc. In my opinion, PacMan didn't do enough to win the fight, he was out boxed.
Hurt shoulder, no cortizone shot before the match, etc, etc, etc.
What I saw is two distinct fighting styles, and one completely dominating the other. I think the worse thing happened, and that was nobody wanting a rematch, which is why it needed to become the horse and pony show, with the "PacMan was fighting with one arm" BS. I'm glad nobody wants to see a rematch. Perhaps we can move on from this farce and concentrate on some decent fighters, like Cinnamon and Triple G.
The Canelo fight was damn good!
Wasn't it? Glad I pay for HBO, since it seems they have quite a few decent cards under their belt for the upcoming weeks. In fact, I'm trying to go to the Forum to see the GGG in person. Too bad he's about 10 pounds heavier than Canelo, or else that might be a decent fight, but I think the Cotto v Canelo fight is in the making at this point.
I'm hearing the rumors of Chavez Jr going head to head with the Mexican Blake Griffin, but I think that'd be a death sentence for the dude riding his dad's coat tails. Plus, there's too much weed to be smoked from here till then to allow for the fight to even be scheduled on Chavez Jr's end.
EL JEFE
05-25-2015, 10:15 AM
Mayweather - Pacman...I don't think so.
This is the sweet science.....both barbaric and beautiful!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3_Hlaggeks
EL JEFE
05-25-2015, 10:17 AM
Plus, there's too much weed to be smoked from here till then to allow for the fight to even be scheduled on Chavez Jr's end.
He does love the mota!
EL JEFE
05-25-2015, 10:18 AM
I would love to see, but Mayweather doesn't fight the top fighters in their prime....too much of a risk..
Triple G vs Mayweather