Best QB of all time

[Caliyak]

So we have Bradshaw, Montana and Brady with 4 rings. So, who is the greatest?

[Mr T-rex]

Montana is 4-0 so undefeated will be the greatest of all time and i am also a 49er fan lol

[City Dad]

Elway......

[MarkyMark]

1. Montana 2. Bradshaw 3. Brady

[cutbait]

Elway..

You cannot speak of ring totals or undefeatedNess and rank QB solely by them.


Throw Elway on those 9er teams and he does better.

Marini too.


Not taking anything from Bradshaw or Montana but fortunes of being on dynastys should be weighed accordingly

[Caliyak]

I agree with Elway. Also add Aikman, Kelly and Young. But, if we go with qbs with 4 rings, different eras and each qb is great within their own era.

[cutbait]

It's certainly not cut and dry.



Whereas in Baseball best hitter is a given.

Ted Williams

[DockRat]

Joe Montana.....

[muskyman]

My favorite QB or style of playing would be Randall Cunningham. I liked his style.

[MustHuntAndFish]

Throw Elway on those 9er teams and he does better.

You're delusional... Elway was physically stronger but that's all he had on Montana. Joe was pin point accurate and had total command of the offense. You talk like Montana was carried by his defense or running game. It was Elway that couldn't win it all until he had Terrell Davis.

Montana and Brady are the only 2 in the conversation. Peyton would be but he never came up big in the playoffs.

[cutbait]

So is Rice the best wide receiver in history that Montana threw it to or as you describe Montana was so "pin point" that it made Rice look like the best ever?

I ask because your taking away from Rice being the best ever by saying Montana was Soooo accurate?


Elway was much better, especially any pass past 10 yds

[MustHuntAndFish]

So is Rice the best wide receiver in history that Montana threw it to or as you describe Montana was so "pin point" that it made Rice look like the best ever?

I ask because your taking away from Rice being the best ever by saying Montana was Soooo accurate?


Elway was much better, especially any pass past 10 yds

Their greatness is mutually exclusive. Montana played 16 yrs, Rice 19yrs... they played 8 yrs together and won 2 Super Bowls... So Montana got 2 without Rice and Rice got 1 without Montana.

Even while they were on the same team... One didn't carry the other. Joe was great because of his command of the offense and finding the open man. Rice was great because he was the best at making himself the open man or best option more often than the other guys on the field.

What makes them the greatest ever is that they elevated their play in the biggest games. Rings and clutchness and undefeatedness ABSOLUTELY count when rating the best ever.

You act like Elway never played with good players around him. Did none of his receivers have anything to do with his completions? Did he throw the ball AND catch it for his receivers?

[MustHuntAndFish]

I got this off the internet.

16 Game Avg - Over Their Career

Elway: 502 attempts, 286 completions, 57% completion, 3,565 yards, 21 touchdowns, 16 interceptions, a 79.9 quarterback rating and 10.3 wins.

Montana: 501 attempts, 317 completions, 63% completion, 3,772 yards, 25 touchdowns, 13 interceptions, a 92.3 quarterback rating and 11.4 wins.


Playoff Stats

Elway: 22 games, 651 attempts, 355 completions, 54.5% completion, 4,964 yards, 27 touchdowns, 21 interceptions, a 79.7 quarterback rating and a 14-8 record.

Montana: 23 games, 734 attempts, 460 completions, 62.7% completion, 5,772 yards, 45 touchdowns, 21 interceptions, a 95.6 quarterback rating and a 16-7 record.


Super Bowl Stats

Elway: five games, 152 attempts, 76 completions, 50% completion, 1,128 yards, three touchdowns, eight interceptions, a 59.3 quarterback rating and two Super Bowl victories.

Montana: four games, 122 attempts, 83 completions, 68% completion, 1,142 yards, 11 touchdowns, zero interceptions, a 127.8 quarterback rating and four Super Bowl victories.



Montana > Elway and it isn't really even close.

[5150fishn]

Montana and MustHuntAndFish covered the stats! lol
Enough said now move along. :Big Grin:

[Mr T-rex]

Boooyyyyyya way to get em MHAF
Montana will always be the GOAT

I got this off the internet.

16 Game Avg - Over Their Career

Elway: 502 attempts, 286 completions, 57% completion, 3,565 yards, 21 touchdowns, 16 interceptions, a 79.9 quarterback rating and 10.3 wins.

Montana: 501 attempts, 317 completions, 63% completion, 3,772 yards, 25 touchdowns, 13 interceptions, a 92.3 quarterback rating and 11.4 wins.


Playoff Stats

Elway: 22 games, 651 attempts, 355 completions, 54.5% completion, 4,964 yards, 27 touchdowns, 21 interceptions, a 79.7 quarterback rating and a 14-8 record.

Montana: 23 games, 734 attempts, 460 completions, 62.7% completion, 5,772 yards, 45 touchdowns, 21 interceptions, a 95.6 quarterback rating and a 16-7 record.


Super Bowl Stats

Elway: five games, 152 attempts, 76 completions, 50% completion, 1,128 yards, three touchdowns, eight interceptions, a 59.3 quarterback rating and two Super Bowl victories.

Montana: four games, 122 attempts, 83 completions, 68% completion, 1,142 yards, 11 touchdowns, zero interceptions, a 127.8 quarterback rating and four Super Bowl victories.



Montana > Elway and it isn't really even close.

[fisherman951]

Tebow and johny cash ... nuff said

[Stormcrow]

Montana....

[Caliyak]

I got this off the internet.

16 Game Avg - Over Their Career

Elway: 502 attempts, 286 completions, 57% completion, 3,565 yards, 21 touchdowns, 16 interceptions, a 79.9 quarterback rating and 10.3 wins.

Montana: 501 attempts, 317 completions, 63% completion, 3,772 yards, 25 touchdowns, 13 interceptions, a 92.3 quarterback rating and 11.4 wins.


Playoff Stats

Elway: 22 games, 651 attempts, 355 completions, 54.5% completion, 4,964 yards, 27 touchdowns, 21 interceptions, a 79.7 quarterback rating and a 14-8 record.

Montana: 23 games, 734 attempts, 460 completions, 62.7% completion, 5,772 yards, 45 touchdowns, 21 interceptions, a 95.6 quarterback rating and a 16-7 record.


Super Bowl Stats

Elway: five games, 152 attempts, 76 completions, 50% completion, 1,128 yards, three touchdowns, eight interceptions, a 59.3 quarterback rating and two Super Bowl victories.

Montana: four games, 122 attempts, 83 completions, 68% completion, 1,142 yards, 11 touchdowns, zero interceptions, a 127.8 quarterback rating and four Super Bowl victories.



Montana > Elway and it isn't really even close.

This is good. can you do this again but add Bradshaw, Montana and Brady
Brady got his rings with a different cast of players every time. Bradshaw had great WR and they had a dominate D.

[DarkShadow]

Jamarcus Russell

[City Dad]

this whole conversation about Joe Montana being the best quarter back ever is nothing more than the result of the Barry Manilow-look-alike bias dominating the NFL these days.

[Stormcrow]

this whole conversation about Joe Montana being the best quarter back ever is nothing more than the result of the Barry Manilow-look-alike bias dominating the NFL these days.


That is funny as hell!!!!

[BassinChef]

Put up Montana's vs Brady's super bowl stats.

[JAG107]

Elway, hands down, by far....



...has THE BEST car dealership out of all the QB's.

I think for me to have a solid opinion on this topic, I need to see where Brady's at after retirement. He might still have a shot at another ring, who knows.

[BassinChef]

Yes he does!!!




...has THE BEST car dealership out of all the QB's.

I think for me to have a solid opinion on this topic, I need to see where Brady's at after retirement. He might still have a shot at another ring, who knows.[/QUOTE]

[TroutOnly]

Tom brady and he's not done yet.................