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cutbait
01-18-2015, 08:00 AM
The question is simple. Has the general board finally reached the point that it has become a very serious black eye.

I myself have found that I don't even open up Pcusers, Buckets, and or Tom's threads (and others, which I include myself)

I'll go so far to say I am hardly surfing FNN over the past two months because of the lack of content.
I'm not trying to shut anyone up or censor them by this thread. Just curious of the thoughts of the fellow members. HOPEFULLY they don't lurk on this thread and fail to comment like in the reports sections (but that's another discussion)

Or has this ship sailed long ago?


I certainly am seeing a change of this site over the last year.

Fishin4runner
01-18-2015, 08:31 AM
I agree with CB, this used to be a great site filled with lots of info and reports related to fishing and I used to post about all my outings. But the past few months it seems that politics, religion, and personal beliefs have taken over. So I have lost alot of faith in this site and have stopped posting reports (I'am not the only one). This is or was a fishing forum but the BS has taken over with a vengeance. And for you guys that keep posing news articles with hyper links if you read the sites rules you are in violation. So lets just cut the crap and get back to fishing, reports, and sharing relevant information. If you feel you need to bring your political and religious views into discussions there are other sites out there that will accommodate you.

HawgZWylde
01-18-2015, 08:39 AM
I agree with CB, this used to be a great site filled with lots of info and reports related to fishing and I used to post about all my outings. But the past few months it seems that politics, religion, and personal beliefs have taken over. So I have lost alot of faith in this site and have stopped posting reports (I'am not the only one). This is or was a fishing forum but the BS has taken over with a vengeance. And for you guys that keep posing news articles with hyper links if you read the sites rules you are in violation. So lets just cut the crap and get back to fishing, reports, and sharing relevant information. If you feel you need to bring your political and religious views into discussions there are other sites out there that will accommodate you.

So with that being said, what is the general non fishing section for? I agree about religion and social issues, it's personal and best to leave alone unless it affects our rights to hunt and fish which is why I believe politics is fair game here. Who gets elected directly affects our right to outdoor recreate and we are losing those rights very quickly...

Fishin4runner
01-18-2015, 08:42 AM
So with that being said, what is the general non fishing section for? I agree about religion and social issues, it's personal and best to leave alone unless it affects our rights to hunt and fish which is why I believe politics is fair game here. Who gets elected directly affects our right to outdoor recreate and we are losing those rights very quickly...

Okay Hawgs you got me there, and I will have to agree with you on that front. But if that is all someone posts about why are they even on a fishing site? I don't see people like you as the problem you post reports and discuss political problems. But that is just it you post, you don't hyperlink news ads with an agenda that doesn't relate to fishing or hunting in some aspect or another. Even when you and the Quagga would get heated it still had some form of relevancy.

Fishin4runner
01-18-2015, 08:58 AM
My posts since i have been on the forum has been 90% about fishing
this is a general section. I am not breaking any laws and you do not have to read the general section. But something about the General section must excite you or you would have no idea what has been going on??
Amazing how we have become a nation of Do as i Do or get out

You feeling guilty about something, I never named any names, why do you feel you have to defend yourself. But I just looked at your posts, your first page has like 15 posts on it and only 3 or 4 about fishing, way less then 90%. And you need to go read the board rules it says in plain English no hyperlinks. OR can you not read..........And the reason I still come to this site is to talk to friends I have met here and to see how they are doing. Unfortunately all I ever see posted is the general forum BS. So I feel the point has been made the general discussion behavior is detrimental to the goal of FNN which is to provide you with all the information you need to catch more and bigger fish in the beautiful state of California.

cutbait
01-18-2015, 09:01 AM
Tom it's not about stopping you from doing a dang thing.

It's a poll. It's purpose is to ask a question and find the results.


Your reading way too much into it.

Can you just temper your eagerness to take offense for one thread

cutbait
01-18-2015, 09:15 AM
I see the poll has only two votes yet 5 participants.


I am assuming you didn't vote no

btsponge
01-18-2015, 09:21 AM
Yes, it's a detriment to the site. People want to come and talk about fishing, not politics or religion. When you open up the FNN homepage it's sometimes 50% of more political/flame topics in the ticker - not fishing. If users want to have those conversations, maybe there can be a politics thread which doesn't pipe into the front page ticker. I actually believe there are times when talking politics on a fishing site can be useful - like getting the word out on a new law that might hurt fisherman, or talking statewide propositions related to conservation. However, those aren't the types of conversations people are having.

I'd love to see this site cleaned up and refocused on fishing. This was the first site I ever posted my fishing reports on (under a different name) so it has a special place for me. It's sad to see what it has become.

santis32
01-18-2015, 09:24 AM
I don't mind unless a person is deliberately antagonizing a specific group or person.Another thing is if a person contributes to the forum then they should have more say in what to post it still doesnt make it right to attack people.

Since we are calling out people here I guess I should point out a few examples. Tom I don't believe he started anything but stated his opinion.Some of his responses can be labeled as crude but its after Lady Quagga,Pcuser and,Darkshadow directed some crude comment towards him. Lady Quagga and Pcuser did the same with me.I also notice they hang out in the General DIscussion category and rarely post anything related to fishing. I've been here 2 weeks and I have posted content related to fishing

Then

Fishin4runner
01-18-2015, 09:26 AM
I see the poll has only two votes yet 5 participants.


I am assuming you didn't vote no

I vote yes it is.......

etucker1959
01-18-2015, 09:33 AM
I one to put my 2 cents in about the site. I joined it because it was a FISHING WEB site. A great way to talk about fishing and meet some new friends. So I started posting reports (park catfish reports mostly) and I noticed a evil side of the members here on FNN. Basically to some people they have the attitude, "you don't post fish reports on MY FISHING HOLE". OR some Haters hate on some ones else's success. Even though this is a fishing web site, "FISH REPORTS ARE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN." You got a big audience here of people wanting to talk, but you can't talk freely about fishing without the haters coming out. So what do people do here instead, they talk about other things besides fishing!!!!!!! Just my 2 cents on why the General discussion area is popular with some people!!!!

MikesOcean
01-18-2015, 09:38 AM
I voted detrimental to site. Just as much as I don't want to read about the anti Christ here. They don't want
To hear that Christians are going to heaven and everyone else is going to hell. I can respect what others believe and expect nothing Different from them. I will leave it at home and I expect them to do the same.

If you want to preach the gospel or argue that Jesus is a false prophet go somewhere else to preach to the choir.

Through the years it has never been as bad as it is now.

So my opinion, ban the section or ban the people that can't maintain respectful debates without mocking each other.

I for one have seen tremendous disrespect there. Very sad...

cutbait
01-18-2015, 09:39 AM
I vote yes it is.......

Your name isn't on the list at the top as voted

cutbait
01-18-2015, 09:43 AM
I voted detrimental to site. Just as much as I don't want to read about the anti Christ here. They don't want
To hear that Christians are going to heaven and everyone else is going to hell..


Words of wisdom that will not be taken

Fishin4runner
01-18-2015, 09:45 AM
Sandis your new....welcome to the forum
your right..but people hate having another opinion...they are ok with the general section as long as they have their way " in general"
soon as another opinion comes out the General section is something BAD
so to some it up...many not all but many on this board..want to hear nothing in support if Christianity
Kind of like communism
in the general section Socialism Liberalism and Atheism and political correctness are accepted and even applauded and it has been this way for years
But any talk of Christianity and we must remove the sore
many claim they do not want censorship but the complaining and whining of another view is their way of starting the censorship moving to remove Christianity from the posting
they can handle any religion or lack of unless it involves Christianity..
if you read through the General section it is all fighting and complaining personal attacts name calling......never has been a peaceful place.....but when Christianity is injected it is a Bad thing for the forum

kind of shows the way the country is moving

You managed to bring your religious views to this thread too. Very sad, very sad...

santis32
01-18-2015, 10:05 AM
You managed to bring your religious views to this thread too. Very sad, very sad...

He did but what about pcuser. Compare the two threads. At least Tom talks about fishing cant say the samr for the others. Hes right that certain groups in here try to censor us look at what happened to me.

Fishin4runner
01-18-2015, 10:09 AM
He did but what about pcuser. Compare the two threads. At least Tom talks about fishing cant say the samr for the others. Hes right that certain groups in here try to censor us look at what happened to me.

I am not censoring I am just stating my opinion that the bs is ruining FNN. And I never named any names but it seems that those causing the problems are known as certain names keep coming up.......And I am unfamiliar with you and your situation, what happened to you?

etucker1959
01-18-2015, 10:10 AM
You really want to improve this web site, you're going after the wrong enemy!!!!! The REAL ENEMY IS THE HATER'S!!!!!! You should start a poll that say's, "who thinks anyone who hates on a legitimate fish reports should get's a automatic 30 day ban for their first offense." If they do it 3 times there gone for good. Fish reports from new members would then come pouring out of the wood work!!! The General discussion section would die on the vine a natural death. Why???? People would have so much fun talking about fishing, no one would even bother in that raggedy old section. That's how you could improve this fishing web site!!! You people are going after the wrong enemy!!!!!

Fishin4runner
01-18-2015, 10:15 AM
You really want to improve this web site, you're going after the wrong enemy!!!!! The REAL ENEMY IS THE HATER'S!!!!!! You should start a poll that say's, "who thinks anyone who hates on a legitimate fish reports should get's a automatic 30 day ban for the first offense. If they do it 3 times there gone for good. Fish reports from new members would then come pouring out of the wood work!!! The General section would die on the vine a natural death. Why???? People would have so much fun talking fishing, no one would even bother in that raggedy old section. That's how you could improve this fishing web site!!! You people are going after the wrong enemy!!!!!
Good point, But I used to find it rather invigorating when people would hate on reports. It just means that they are insecure with their own fishing abilities. On another front I had no problem posting spots, techniques, and fish counts. After all many people on this site helped me out when I was learning new techniques and location as that was the FNN way. But I feel those days are gone forever with the new hypocrisy.

santis32
01-18-2015, 10:17 AM
You really want to improve this web site, you're going after the wrong enemy!!!!! The REAL ENEMY IS THE HATER'S!!!!!! You should start a poll that say's, "who thinks anyone who hates on a legitimate fish reports should get's a automatic 30 day ban for their first offense." If they do it 3 times there gone for good. Fish reports from new members would then come pouring out of the wood work!!! The General discussion section would die on the vine a natural death. Why???? People would have so much fun talking about fishing, no one would even bother in that raggedy old section. That's how you could improve this fishing web site!!! You people are going after the wrong enemy!!!!!

What about people who attack others because of their opinion

pcuser
01-18-2015, 10:56 AM
I have to agree with you about the fishing section
If someone keeps a toad they should be banned....if you post a real report about a fishing spot you are PMed telling you or to reveal spots any more
if it is a trout fishing spot..don't got their the water is too low and all the fish are dead.....
and it is winter time fishing for most warm water species is slow so the post are few and far between
so why post about fishing adventures?? all the spots are secret spots and no one is allowed to fish them
I am of the mind set show people and help people catch fish....on the forum not secret PMs
I have been on the forum a long time and fish with many on the forum who wont post in the fishing section...they always say....well if i ask a question "i am told to do my Home work" we cant just give you spots or tips
i just started posting in the general section as i could see only one point of view was accepted most to the time..and even in the general section....another way of doing things is not accepted

I agree that fishing posts can be unmercifully attacked. That was my experience when I joined. I was lambasted because I kept a few fish for dinner... If you are going to get lambasted, it might as well be for something you believe in...

pcuser
01-18-2015, 10:58 AM
He did but what about pcuser. Compare the two threads. At least Tom talks about fishing cant say the samr for the others. Hes right that certain groups in here try to censor us look at what happened to me.

Apparently,you didn't see my most recent post...

santis32
01-18-2015, 11:04 AM
I got bashed because I stated my opinion like you did. About the links you said its off limits but what about pictures of the fish I caught is that off limits too.

santis32
01-18-2015, 11:16 AM
The question is simple. Has the general board finally reached the point that it has become a very serious black eye.

I myself have found that I don't even open up Pcusers, Buckets, and or Tom's threads (and others, which I include myself)

I'll go so far to say I am hardly surfing FNN over the past two months because of the lack of content.
I'm not trying to shut anyone up or censor them by this thread. Just curious of the thoughts of the fellow members. HOPEFULLY they don't lurk on this thread and fail to comment like in the reports sections (but that's another discussion)

Or has this ship sailed long ago?


I certainly am seeing a change of this site over the last year.


I also noticed people dont really write reports no more. Dont know why but I don't think its the general discussion forum . Another thing to mention about this section is that the frequency of posts increased in this section starting a few months ago by yours truly pcuser. LIke you said its it. mostly political.

btsponge
01-18-2015, 11:34 AM
General discussion is not for fishing it is for Everything else
so you would like the general section removed??
I am sure the Moderators could do that for you

Yes, when the general discussion area is just a forum for political venting and baiting, then it should be removed. General discussion forums on other fishing sites don't have this type of conversation. They talk about fishing related topics. There are other forums that gladly host this type of conversation.

etucker1959
01-18-2015, 12:06 PM
Good point, But I used to find it rather invigorating when people would hate on reports. It just means that they are insecure with their own fishing abilities. On another front I had no problem posting spots, techniques, and fish counts. After all many people on this site helped me out when I was learning new techniques and location as that was the FNN way. But I feel those days are gone forever with the new hypocrisy.
How many times did you ever hear these words from a poster after he wrote a fish report and the Haters came out. "This is why I will never post another fish report on FNN again!!!!" Not every one will fight back!!!!! Does anyone remember the nice young man who wrote Killer fish reports about Corona Lake????? He was attacked by some middle age man who lived out of State. That nice young man who wrote almost a weekly report, made 1 more post after that and we never heard from him again. You could ask our resident expert of the mountain lakes who is a great contributor in the general discussion area, "why he doesn't write fish reports anymore???" He will give you the same kind of answer. The Bass spawn is coming up soon, see what happens if someone reports catching a big bass in a local Regional park. My fishing partner Jared, who use to write fish reports here on FNN and another web site. He doesn't any more because of all the Haters. You know, "I actually keep track of who the haters are!!!!!" I can tell you what, "they don't participate in the general discussion section." The Hater's are the people that caused this website to be what it is today. Not the people who participate in the General discussion section!!!!!!

pcuser
01-18-2015, 12:37 PM
I also noticed people dont really write reports no more. Dont know why but I don't think its the general discussion forum . Another thing to mention about this section is that the frequency of posts increased in this section starting a few months ago by yours truly pcuser. LIke you said its it. mostly political.

Have you noticed all the other non political posts I've submitted. It's not my fault that the political threads got so much traction...

Fishin4runner
01-18-2015, 03:09 PM
well PcCuser we agree on something
last year 8 fish between 7-12lbs 20 over 4lbs..YES we keep a log book with pictures from Perris....Not one mention from me about it or one pic
Why would I post those reports?? I have been with Ted and caught nice fish we both know better than to report our catches
Did you release it?? it is a crime to keep it..or the Mirad of PMs...don't tell any one where you got it or how
or better yet.. .. stream fishing ? Oh my god don't tell anyone to fish there..the water is low.....the water is hot......the bait guys will ruin the spot..
This forum is full of people who do NOT want to help by Posting a real report and trash anyone who might in a PM or have some snide remark in the thread
Wonder what would have happened when I kept the 12.6 I caught at Perris in November and ATE it.....Oh my Gosh the world would have ended...but it was legal to do so and yes it tasted GOOD
But it is ok to pull up to the ramp in your Ranger Bass boat....Fill the live well with freshly stocked trout and run across the lake
If that is all you caught I probably wouldn't post about it either. Only 8 fish between 7-12 lbs. sounds kinda like an amateur to me. LOL

shinbob
01-18-2015, 03:49 PM
The question is simple. Has the general board finally reached the point that it has become a very serious black eye.



Cancer is the exact right word. All that negativity doesn't stay isolated to the General Discussions board, it spreads like a cancer.

Fishing-related drama is bad enough (the DVL one last fall was just embarrassing), do we really need to pile on all the other topics?

I complained about it once, the response was to "just don't read it". Well, when over 50% of the "recent posts" section on the frontpage have nothing to do with fishing, it makes it difficult. I would be happy if they would just exclude Gen Discussion topics from the frontpage. And maybe make a separate frontpage section for all the classifieds.

But yeah, I agree. Definitely makes me want to participate less.

This site feels like it's going the way of All Coast.

Piss on Myspace
01-18-2015, 04:04 PM
Yup...its a joke. I thought this was a fishing website.

Everyone who starts threads like these need to do one of three things:

1. go fishing
2. get a life
3. get some more friends

fly addict
01-18-2015, 04:23 PM
This site is already censored by the moderators for political correctness. Just try to find the thread, “Muslim a religion of peace” or something like that under General Discussions, the moderators have no problem with the bashing of Christianity and might even encourage it, but try to say anything negative about the Muslim religion and they will remove it.

There is no reason to shut down this section of the forum, if you don’t like what you see hear don’t read it. I actually find it entertaining, and enjoy reading the different viewpoints. I may not agree with what I read, but I do believe people should be able to voice their opinions on many subjects and this is the place for that.

santis32
01-18-2015, 04:30 PM
This site is already censored by the moderators for political correctness. Just try to find the thread, “Muslim a religion of peace” or something like that under General Discussions, the moderators have no problem with the bashing of Christianity and might even encourage it, but try to say anything negative about the Muslim religion and they will remove it.

There is no reason to shut down this section of the forum, if you don’t like what you see hear don’t read it. I actually find it entertaining, and enjoy reading the different viewpoints. I may not agree with what I read, but I do believe people should be able to voice their opinions on many subjects and this is the place for that.

I have noticed that too .

drc521
01-18-2015, 04:58 PM
Shin bob is on the money. Take general discussion off the front page then.
I don't know why I have to make 3 clicks to get to any fishing report.
The front of FNN is plastered with social discussion.

Yes, it's detrimental. People need to take online banter with a grain of salt.
Bass on the chew today!

trail blazer
01-18-2015, 05:25 PM
Got MY vote in,,,,,,,,,YES,,,but,

For adiferent reason then most,,,,,,,,,FNN is a great fishing forum FULL of non fishermen and and women to

Need to get rid of the NON fisher people!

TRAIL BLAZER

DockRat
01-18-2015, 05:46 PM
Tell it how it is.
Hey Tom, how many LOOOOONG replies are you going to do on this?
Give it a rest bro. You, Bucket and PC have been posting a lot of crap. Yahoo news links daily ect.
We watch the news and don't need daily reports. Bring something.
How about a girls fishing in bikinis post.
DR

DockRat
01-18-2015, 05:49 PM
My posts since i have been on the forum has been 90% about fishing

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f231/ignas110/random%20stuff/525.gif (http://media.photobucket.com/user/ignas110/media/random%20stuff/525.gif.html)

santis32
01-18-2015, 06:33 PM
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f231/ignas110/random%20stuff/525.gif (http://media.photobucket.com/user/ignas110/media/random%20stuff/525.gif.html)
Tom has been here since 2005 with 600 posts. Pcuser 2011 with 900 posts. Tom hasnt posted anything provocative until went all out on religion. Bucket attacked liberals and usually he wasnt the first to. draw blood. And you sir are the bull@@itter. You copied buckets animation.
http://fishingnetwork.net/forum4/showthread.php?82749-For-the-gun-control-folks-in-here/page2


If you are gonna single people out then be fair and call everyone out.I have seen your posts you are no angel either. Do you want me to dig it up and show it to everybody to see or you're gonna keep your mouth shut. Im getting tired of all this 20 vs1 sh`@.


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DockRat
01-18-2015, 07:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X__EJ11yLPg

santis32
01-18-2015, 07:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X__EJ11yLPg

THats what I thought. SMart move

Double A
01-18-2015, 07:23 PM
FNN is being ruined.
Sadly, it's being done by a few.
Bad apples... Should be smashed into sauce.

Double A
01-18-2015, 07:50 PM
Changing what channel?
WTF are you blabbering about?
Are you hallucinating?

How about this... Give your stubby little fingers a break from pounding the keyboard.

DockRat
01-18-2015, 07:55 PM
Changing what channel?
WTF are you blabbering about?
Are you hallucinating?

How about this... Give your stubby little fingers a break from pounding the keyboard.
Agreed.... 600 posts since 2005
200 of them in 2015... Take a break Tom.
Your on time out.
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cutbait
01-18-2015, 08:03 PM
22-5...


When the holiday weekend is over numbers should climb, and if they dont I'm going to blame the Christians

etucker1959
01-18-2015, 08:07 PM
22-5...


When the holiday weekend is over numbers should climb, and if they dont I'm going to blame the Christians
Well we are losing big time!!!! I do expect us (the no's) to make a big comeback in the second half!!!! lol

Fishin4runner
01-18-2015, 08:11 PM
Well we are losing big time!!!! I do expect us (the no's) to make a big comeback in the second half!!!! lol

Go Sea Chickens...................

cutbait
01-18-2015, 08:13 PM
What a game?

That dummy from green bay is toast

seal
01-19-2015, 11:21 AM
Haven't read all the responses and just don't have the urge to. My take is every board has a personality, that personality is based on interaction of the members of course. This section has become nothing but negative crap with only a few exceptions. It's all about who's got the biggest insult not the sharing of ideas or voicing of opinions. The stuff that happens here is bound to filter over to the fishing sections.

I think my main take is it's just gotten ridiculous and serves absolutely no positive purpose anymore, it's been abused too much.

I am quite sure I'll get some feedback because I come into this section often but I'd prefer it gone.

City Dad
01-19-2015, 11:36 AM
Bring back Loki

etucker1959
01-19-2015, 01:30 PM
Haven't read all the responses and just don't have the urge to. My take is every board has a personality, that personality is based on interaction of the members of course. This section has become nothing but negative crap with only a few exceptions. It's all about who's got the biggest insult not the sharing of ideas or voicing of opinions. The stuff that happens here is bound to filter over to the fishing sections.

I think my main take is it's just gotten ridiculous and serves absolutely no positive purpose anymore, it's been abused too much.

I am quite sure I'll get some feedback because I come into this section often but I'd prefer it gone.

There is 12 activity members in the GD section who post almost daily. Not counting the, "if it's interesting enough thread I'll post people." Yet only 8 people are willing to stand up and say, "Hey I like posting in there!!!!! I'm not trying to give anyone a hard time, just trying to understand how people think!!!! I understand where the 35 other people who think you should get rid of this section are coming from. Signed Confused!!!!!!!

Lady Quagga
01-19-2015, 02:04 PM
Bring back Loki

You're thinking way too small. I say bring back He Who Shall Not Be Named. (And I don't mean Sansou.)

seal
01-19-2015, 02:08 PM
Seal, sometimes I just ask a question to understand how other people think. (this is one of those times) You would prefer it's gone, but I cant stay out of it!!!! Care to explain your thought process??? By the way you're not alone. There is 12 activity members in the GD section who post almost daily. Not counting the, if it's interesting enough thread I'll post people. Yet only 6 people are willing to stand up and say, "Hey I like posting in there!!!!! I'm not trying to give you a hard time at all, just trying to understand how you and others think!!!! I understand where the 24 other people who think you should get rid of it are coming from. Signed Confused!!!!!!!

I have no more time for you and I'm done trying to justify any of my opinions to you.

BlueGillChaser
01-19-2015, 02:14 PM
This site has already gone to hell...Just a few people can mess things up. SMDH!!!!!!!!!!!!! TOM is the front runner.

City Dad
01-19-2015, 03:48 PM
You're thinking way too small. I say bring back He Who Shall Not Be Named. (And I don't mean Sansou.)

I'm for variety. I don't offend very easily.

I kinda think of the General forum as the same type of small talk that goes on during a boat ride/hike to a spot or in slow times between bites. No limit on topcs

Lady Quagga
01-19-2015, 04:46 PM
I'm for variety. I don't offend very easily.

I kinda think of the General forum as the same type of small talk that goes on during a boat ride/hike to a spot or in slow times between bites. No limit on topcs

CD, I am sure you remember the documentary where the bushman dug a hole into a mound of what-have-you, dropped a handful of goodies into the hole, and waited for a curious monkey to come along and reach into the hole, trapping himself in the process. General Discussion is kinda like that.

I couldn't help but notice that a lot of the "yes" voters contribute little (if anything) to General Discussion. Not that I have a problem with that - it's just that they since they aren't regular contributors to Gen Disc, it wouldn't take much more effort to ignore this section altogether. I mean really, if you find Gen Disc that upsetting, that should be enough to resist your primate impulses.

Incidentally, it has been suggested that it's only a matter of time before the chaos of Gen Disc spills over into other forum sections. Trust me on this one - the moderators keep a close watch, and have ensured that doesn't happen.

shinbob
01-19-2015, 04:55 PM
I think my main take is it's just gotten ridiculous and serves absolutely no positive purpose anymore,

Perhaps I'm pointing out the obvious here, but GD *does* serve a "positive" purpose. Pageviews = advertising revenue.

With over 44K posts, GD has the 3rd most of any other board. And I'm going to guess that in terms of pageviews, it beats all others, maybe even combined, as you all continually press the refresh button to see other's reaction to your post.

So if it's the necessary evil that keeps the rest of the board afloat, then perhaps that's the way it has to be. But again, there's a risk involved that people get disillusioned and defect to other boards.

cutbait
01-19-2015, 05:14 PM
Perhaps I'm pointing out the obvious here, but GD *does* serve a "positive" purpose. Pageviews = advertising revenue.

With over 44K posts, GD has the 3rd most of any other board. And I'm going to guess that in terms of pageviews, it beats all others, maybe even combined, as you all continually press the refresh button to see other's reaction to your post.

So if it's the necessary evil that keeps the rest of the board afloat, then perhaps that's the way it has to be. But again, there's a risk involved that people get disillusioned and defect to other boards.

Example: facebook...


From team 57 facebook page to fishaholics to whatever. Facebook is the new fishing message boards.

This style is/has become obsolete

etucker1959
01-19-2015, 06:31 PM
Perhaps I'm pointing out the obvious here, but GD *does* serve a "positive" purpose. Pageviews = advertising revenue.

With over 44K posts, GD has the 3rd most of any other board. And I'm going to guess that in terms of pageviews, it beats all others, maybe even combined, as you all continually press the refresh button to see other's reaction to your post.

So if it's the necessary evil that keeps the rest of the board afloat, then perhaps that's the way it has to be. But again, there's a risk involved that people get disillusioned and defect to other boards.
Boy I like the way you think!!!! Does anyone remember the, "who are you going to vote for President thread in 2012." It got over 90,000 views and over 9,000 comments. No I didn't get my decimal point in the wrong spot!!!!

catchingsomefish
01-19-2015, 07:39 PM
I too joined because of the Fishing aspect of the site, and I have made several friends, here, and on the water.....I know better than to get involved with political and religious conversations, as it usually leads to bad feelings, and to some pretty crappy comments. My vote would be yes, but here again, I dont participate in the general discussion area..... On the same token, I have seen some of the better fisherman on this site, get crappy with each other about fishing. I never had the opportunity to meet Dana, Fisherman 57, but from what people have told me, he was a solid guy who loved to fish and share info and help others, which was the spirit behind this site in the first place.... Maybe if we all tried to follow the example he set, bring back the comraderie and fellowship, and focus on Fishing we all might be better off....just saying........Dave

Double A
01-19-2015, 07:41 PM
^^^^^^^^^^
Just hit the nail, square on the head.

Fishbones
01-19-2015, 09:30 PM
If there was as many fishing reports as religion or politics threads we would all be too busy poaching each others spots instead. Loll

IMO it's when it crosses over into the fishing section is when it becomes a problem. We are human and can let our emotions run, but don't go chasing the fight. Leave it in general please!

5150fishn
01-19-2015, 10:11 PM
I voted yes but at the same time I would rather not have the chaos roll into the true fishing sections so I am torn. I guess there is always the option of staying away from that section.

seal
01-20-2015, 07:34 AM
Perhaps I'm pointing out the obvious here, but GD *does* serve a "positive" purpose. Pageviews = advertising revenue.

With over 44K posts, GD has the 3rd most of any other board. And I'm going to guess that in terms of pageviews, it beats all others, maybe even combined, as you all continually press the refresh button to see other's reaction to your post.

So if it's the necessary evil that keeps the rest of the board afloat, then perhaps that's the way it has to be. But again, there's a risk involved that people get disillusioned and defect to other boards.

Stop with the positives it's all about the negatives!

Good points and yes I realize this but our society today is so fractured fishing is what should bring us together not separate us further. I'm guilty of being a bit too bitter at times and am going to do my best not to let that side of me affect how I communicate here, although I will not stop posting my opinions I'll just not get into a war over stupid stuff, I hope.

shinbob
01-20-2015, 07:43 AM
This style is/has become obsolete

Yep, this is true also. The nature of online interaction is always changing.

Anyone remember Usenet? alt.fishing? or BBSs? All dinosaurs from the past. It's all going to social networking (i.e. facebook), or perhaps boards like Reddit where "the hive mind" determines what is acceptable and what is not.

DarkShadow
01-20-2015, 09:10 AM
The question is simple. Has the general board finally reached the point that it has become a very serious black eye.

...

I'll go so far to say I am hardly surfing FNN over the past two months because of the lack of content....


I certainly am seeing a change of this site over the last year.

Perhaps I may be mistaken and by all means, you can correct me, but what I'm gathering from your sentiments is that you feel the latest trend in General Discussion is causing users to post less fishing related content (reports, etc), thus it being detrimental to the board?

shinbob
01-20-2015, 09:13 AM
It is Amazing that mostly people who do not use the general section bring up the problem with the general section.
people who Generally not even involved.
So maybe we should just "remove the general section" and let the fishing stand on its own

Think the forum could Exist without the General section?

Don't need to remove it entirely, just remove it from the front page. Then it will take a conscious, deliberate effort to even see the topics, and then nobody can complain. If you like it, then go ahead and click your way there. If you don't like it, then just don't go there at all, it's just like it doesn't exist. But it will still be around for anyone to discuss non-fishing topics.

I really like the "latest posts" feature, it's very helpful to see posts in sections that I don't normally visit, particularly the out-of-state reports. Would have probably never seen DarkShadow's great post about Yellowstone without it, for example. It would be even better if the signal-to-noise ratio was increased, which can easily be done by removing GD topics.

Stormcrow
01-20-2015, 09:34 AM
What makes me laugh are all of those who use a FISHING website for their discussions on politics, religion, etc.... Simply hilarious. MSN and MSNBC as well as several other websites that can satisfy your need to voice your opinions that prove you come from the shallow end of the gene pool, yet they are HERE...on a FISHING WEBSITE. I've thought this for years. Of course, I do participate in those discussions from time to time but I also post fishing reports. The most active individuals in the General Discussion category NEVER post anything fishing related and if they do it is simply to comment or HATE on someone else. I respect admin on this site and I would love to hear their views on this topic.

When considering people like Quagga, this is her only outlet to troll and inflict grief on all around her... As someone said before, people are using facebook for exchange of information related to fishing. Since Quagga would be most likely blocked by nearly every facebook user, she would have no voice there. That is why she is here as well as many others that are in her desperate position.

Lady Quagga
01-20-2015, 09:36 AM
Yep, this is true also. The nature of online interaction is always changing.

Anyone remember Usenet? alt.fishing? or BBSs? All dinosaurs from the past. It's all going to social networking (i.e. facebook), or perhaps boards like Reddit where "the hive mind" determines what is acceptable and what is not.

And yet here we all are, demonstrating just how valuable web-based internet forums are. FNN would not be better served by a FARK/Reddit format (which serve high volume traffic better), and would likely be diluted (both in content ease-of-access and profitability) were it to move to a Facebook format.

etucker1959
01-20-2015, 10:01 AM
Perhaps I may be mistaken and by all means, you can correct me, but what I'm gathering from your sentiments is that you feel the latest trend in General Discussion is causing users to post less fishing related content (reports, etc), thus it being detrimental to the board?
You know DS, I think you're are the best poster on this site. When you say something it's hard hitting and true. You're comment is exactally what these people are saying. You know there is only 12 regulars in the GD section, there is also some kind of feeling our Madness will spill over onto the fishing sections. So I ask this question, which of us 12 are causing any one problems in the fishing section????? Actually the opposite is true, there is a couple who don't post at all. (which makes them neutral) and the other's including myself, "I consider an asset to this site." So what exactally is the problem???????????

City Dad
01-20-2015, 10:25 AM
You know DS, I think you're are the best poster on this site. When you say something it's hard hitting and true. You're comment is exactally what these people are saying. You know there is only 12 regulars in the GD section, there is also some kind of feeling our Madness will spill over onto the fishing sections. So I ask this question, which of us 12 are causing any one problems in the fishing section????? Actually the opposite is true, there is a couple who don't post at all. (which makes them neutral) and the other's including myself, "I consider an asset to this site." So exactally where is the problem???????????

The reason I post less and less fishing reports is because I have two kids in sports - I wish I could post more about fishing trips!

The reason why I post in the General section; the nature of my work is kinda hurry up and wait, so I tend to have five, ten, fifteen minute periods throughout the day when I am on a holding pattern... and it's just me and the computer. I used to think it was funny to bust balls in the GS, but learned that not everyone shares my sense of "humor" so I try not to be too disrespectful or provocative... most of the time.

One thing that has changed in the content of my fishing posts - I try to avoid blowing up a spot. It really does happen and it sucks. If feeling this way makes me selfish, than so be it. So, before I put anything up anymore, I ask myself first will it do any harm? I'll let the world know the 411 on a hot eight-inch tilapia bite at Balboa, but if something awesome goes down in a sensitive area, I'll probably just PM other members who've done the same for me in the past (except for DS that dude is a poaching machine.)

If I see an opportunity to share information/gear/flies I'll do that too (though the kids in sports thing has really curtailed my fly-tying as well.)

overall, my philosophy is, as I suspect many other members' is, don't be a giant doosh & help out where I can.

Stormcrow
01-20-2015, 10:59 AM
So I ask this question, which of us 12 are causing any one problems in the fishing section????? Actually the opposite is true, there is a couple who don't post at all. (which makes them neutral) and the other's including myself, "I consider an asset to this site." So what exactally is the problem???????????

Just an observation but does anyone really need to explain to you the problem? The poll obviously exemplifies the fact that there IS a problem with a 4 to 1 ratio so far. The poll tells you all you need to know. Nobody owes you an explanation for their opinion. That is why polls exist. My guess is that because most people on this board are so fed up with the GD trollers that they steer clear of the category like a democrat at a charity function so most have not even seen this poll. My guess is if most really weighed in on the poll you would have hundreds of responses with a much wider ratio than 4 to 1.

John Harper
01-20-2015, 11:52 AM
I really enjoy a well-reasoned debate on almost anything, even on the general discussion boards. What I do find offensive is infantile name-calling, labeling, denigrating, and personal attacks instead of reasoned discourse. That's what sours me on the FNN GD forum at times.

John

shinbob
01-20-2015, 12:30 PM
Fishing the website would be larger and the general section would not always be at the top of the home page for the lazy people who don't like having to click three times to see fishing information

This was obviously directed at my comment. You just called me lazy. Am I not supposed to be offended by this? Is this not supposed to color my judgement about this whole site in general? Do you people still want to claim that GD sourness doesn't bleed over onto the rest of the board?

And for the record, it's more like 21 clicks. All the SoCal Freshwater forums (15) plus Eastern Sierras (1) plus SoCal Surf & Harbor (1), plus the Gear, Boats, Yakers, and Out of State (4) = 21

shinbob
01-20-2015, 12:32 PM
Go to the fishing section and POST POST POST

I fish socal freshwater maybe 10 times per year, and posted 4-5 reports and other bits of info. Guys like Bucket can post 5-10 GD topics per DAY. Just can't compete with that.

Lady Quagga
01-20-2015, 12:53 PM
Just an observation but does anyone really need to explain to you the problem? The poll obviously exemplifies the fact that there IS a problem with a 4 to 1 ratio so far. The poll tells you all you need to know. Nobody owes you an explanation for their opinion. That is why polls exist.

As your own words point out, this poll is a survey of opinions. It exemplifies.......wait for it......opinions, and nothing else. It is not a factual demonstration of any problem, and suggests nothing except all the fragile sensibilities lurking about in Gen Disc.


My guess is that because most people on this board are so fed up with the GD trollers that they steer clear of the category like a democrat at a charity function so most have not even seen this poll. My guess is if most really weighed in on the poll you would have hundreds of responses with a much wider ratio than 4 to 1.

Says the person who posted this outside General Discussion:


Here's the deal: this was simply an E-Peen shot. And, for those of you who are a bit dense, the need for a large E-Peen is almost always to compensate for a tiny brown real life Peen. If you get my meaning.

Double A
01-20-2015, 01:00 PM
Just an observation but does anyone really need to explain to you the problem? The poll obviously exemplifies the fact that there IS a problem with a 4 to 1 ratio so far. The poll tells you all you need to know. Nobody owes you an explanation for their opinion. That is why polls exist. My guess is that because most people on this board are so fed up with the GD trollers that they steer clear of the category like a democrat at a charity function so most have not even seen this poll. My guess is if most really weighed in on the poll you would have hundreds of responses with a much wider ratio than 4 to 1.

... Like a democrat at a charity function.
Damn, that made me laugh out loud.
Good one SC

DarkShadow
01-20-2015, 01:44 PM
So, before I put anything up anymore, I ask myself first will it do any harm? I'll let the world know the 411 on a hot eight-inch tilapia bite at Balboa, but if something awesome goes down in a sensitive area, I'll probably just PM other members who've done the same for me in the past (except for DS that dude is a poaching machine.)

You mistake a dozen black sea bass for record Calicos and suddenly you're labeled a poaching machine.

Then again, I'd rather be labeled a poaching machine, than be one of those who yell out "foul" because they can't argue themselves out of the mess they put themselves in by posting in the first place.

:-)

BTW, I have an awesome Garibaldi sashimi recipe that you'd be interested in.

City Dad
01-20-2015, 02:57 PM
You mistake a dozen black sea bass for record Calicos and suddenly you're labeled a poaching machine.

Then again, I'd rather be labeled a poaching machine, than be one of those who yell out "foul" because they can't argue themselves out of the mess they put themselves in by posting in the first place.

:-)

BTW, I have an awesome Garibaldi sashimi recipe that you'd be interested in.

is it as good as your cutthroat ceviche?

DarkShadow
01-20-2015, 03:07 PM
is it as good as your cutthroat ceviche?

Better! Ever had a Garibaldi omelet made out of condor and bald eagle eggs?

City Dad
01-21-2015, 02:09 PM
Better! Ever had a Garibaldi omelet made out of condor and bald eagle eggs?

with a little schmeer of yellow-legged frog pate' - HEAVEN!!! and oh, does a nice dollop of desert pupfish caviar top it off!

murrieta angler
01-21-2015, 03:22 PM
Just read some posts and don't really care for the General Section personally.

As far as less reports to read, I feel that because more people are back at work that they just don't have time to fish, let alone write up a report.
I'm in construction and I have to get as much as I can, while I can.
Have I been fishing, of course, but working the hours I am working right now and family and church, it is just not a priority.

Have a good one guys & gals,
Robert
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DarkShadow
01-22-2015, 01:41 PM
As far as less reports to read, I feel that because more people are back at work that they just don't have time to fish, let alone write up a report.

I guess we're on the same boat. Never received a reply on the question I posed to the OP, but there are circumstances outside of the discord in GenDisc that are affecting fishing related postings on the site. Could it be that DFG is no longer stocking in the amounts they used to? Sure. Could it be that the drought has affected many fisheries in SoCal so that the numbers of fish being caught have been reduced? Sure.

But to say that the discord in GenDisc is 'detrimental' to FNN? Check these out:

http://fishingnetwork.net/forum4/showthread.php?82140-rush-creek-oct-29th-thru-nov-2-%28late-report%29

http://fishingnetwork.net/forum4/showthread.php?82323-Give-a-Big-Shout-out-to-the-new-Stewarts-of-our-Sport

http://fishingnetwork.net/forum4/showthread.php?82853-Law-Breaker

Yet, no thread has been created on that side to discuss the same amount of discord happening outside of GenDisc, and whether or not this is 'detrimental' to FNN.

Why is that?

etucker1959
01-22-2015, 02:42 PM
I guess we're on the same boat. Never received a reply on the question I posed to the OP, but there are circumstances outside of the discord in GenDisc that are affecting fishing related postings on the site. Could it be that DFG is no longer stocking in the amounts they used to? Sure. Could it be that the drought has affected many fisheries in SoCal so that the numbers of fish being caught have been reduced? Sure.

But to say that the discord in GenDisc is 'detrimental' to FNN? Check these out:

http://fishingnetwork.net/forum4/showthread.php?82140-rush-creek-oct-29th-thru-nov-2-%28late-report%29

http://fishingnetwork.net/forum4/showthread.php?82323-Give-a-Big-Shout-out-to-the-new-Stewarts-of-our-Sport

http://fishingnetwork.net/forum4/showthread.php?82853-Law-Breaker

Yet, no thread has been created on that side to discuss the same amount of discord happening outside of GenDisc, and whether or not this is 'detrimental' to FNN.

Why is that?
I got one better then that!!!! I like to do a little research before I start flapping my gums. There is 12 regulars in the GD section and 3 of us joined about the same time. Myself, Dev and HagwZ. So I said to myself, let me do some research before we and a couple of others joined FNN and look at some of the old posts. What would be a good section to look at????? DVL sounds good. What could be more like real fishing then Bass fishing at Diamond Valley lake. I came across this thread by SA about keeping big BASS. Holy Crap the fireworks went off more then anything I've ever seen in the GD section!!!!!! You know what was the real funny part ???? Was who posted on that thread!!!!! A whole bunch of familiar names who are still around. Remember this happened before the majority of the dirty dozen GD poster's joined FNN. So to claim we are a Cancer that is and will be spreading and ruin FNN. I say HA!!!!!! To that!!!!! Lone Wolf hater's and Trout & Bass Nazis are the real enemy to FNN!!!!!

drc521
01-22-2015, 04:03 PM
Hey.. if there are flames on posts with actual talk of "FISH" in it.. what's the problem? I'd rather discuss ninja fishing and poaching than general discussion items. At least those two things are relevant to this site.

What don't the few understand?
Here is a summary of what I believe:

General Discussion is not "cancer", it's just become the main gathering place for CRAP on the forum. Sure it's "General Discussion", but it shouldn't dominate the front page, nor should it affect traffic on the site positively or negatively. ITS GENERAL DISCUSSION.. EVERY FORUM HAS ONE. It's just something you do. This is a fishing forum... bottom line. Agreed? This is a fishing forum. I didn't come here for general discussion, nor should you have.

If you want to "chat" about things other than fishing to a few specific people who align with your beliefs and ideals.. there's PM. Why do you need to bring non-fishing controversial topics into public space where 90% of your views are OBVIOUSLY HERE FOR FISHING. You want to talk web impressions? Mods care less about veteran members do than new members. New members are here for the possibility of stumbling on FISHING information that will help them improve in their hobby. Veteran members don't take the time to bring traffic to this forum trust me. It's google and search engine optimization. Do you think I googled religion and stumbled on a fishing forum? Give me a break.

Nobody has even requested these discussions to stop, so... why are you still busting each others balls. It's freaking tiring because I HAVE to come read this S&!$... since I contributed to the argument. Why are you freaking digging for ammo to shoot down opposition over GENERAL DISCUSSION.

Give it a rest.

DarkShadow
01-22-2015, 04:14 PM
It's freaking tiring because I HAVE to come read this S&!$... since I contributed to the argument.

I'm curious...

If you don't want to come read this &!$..., then why contribute to the discussion?

City Dad
01-22-2015, 04:16 PM
I got one better then that!!!! I like to do a little research before I start flapping my gums. There is 12 regulars in the GD section and 3 of us joined about the same time. Myself, Dev and HagwZ. So I said to myself, let me do some research before we and a couple of others joined FNN and look at some of the old posts. What would be a good section to look at????? DVL sounds good. What could be more like real fishing then Bass fishing at Diamond Valley lake. I came across this thread by SA about keeping big BASS. Holy Crap the fireworks went off more then anything I've ever seen in the GD section!!!!!! You know what was the real funny part ???? Was who posted on that thread!!!!! A whole bunch of familiar names who are still around. Remember this happened before the majority of the dirty dozen GD poster's joined FNN. So to claim we are a Cancer that is and will be spreading and ruin FNN. I say HA!!!!!! To that!!!!! Lone Wolf hater's and Trout & Bass Nazis are the real enemy to FNN!!!!!

I've always felt that random asteroids are the real, real enemy - then wolf nazis, then haters, then measles. after that it's a pick 'em

etucker1959
01-22-2015, 04:22 PM
Hey.. if there are flames on posts with actual talk of "FISH" in it.. what's the problem? I'd rather discuss ninja fishing and poaching than general discussion items. At least those two things are relevant to this site.

What don't the few understand?
Here is a summary of what I believe:

General Discussion is not "cancer", it's just become the main gathering place for CRAP on the forum. Sure it's "General Discussion", but it shouldn't dominate the front page, nor should it affect traffic on the site positively or negatively. ITS GENERAL DISCUSSION.. EVERY FORUM HAS ONE. It's just something you do. This is a fishing forum... bottom line. Agreed? This is a fishing forum. I didn't come here for general discussion, nor should you have.

If you want to "chat" about things other than fishing to a few specific people who align with your beliefs and ideals.. there's PM. Why do you need to bring non-fishing controversial topics into public space where 90% of your views are OBVIOUSLY HERE FOR FISHING. You want to talk web impressions? Mods care less about veteran members do than new members. New members are here for the possibility of stumbling on FISHING information that will help them improve in their hobby. Veteran members don't take the time to bring traffic to this forum trust me. It's google and search engine optimization. Do you think I googled religion and stumbled on a fishing forum? Give me a break.

Nobody has even requested these discussions to stop, so... why are you still busting each others balls. It's freaking tiring because I HAVE to come read this S&!$... since I contributed to the argument. Why are you freaking digging for ammo to shoot down opposition over GENERAL DISCUSSION.

Give it a rest.
I think the discussion is still continuing because of the results of the poll. The amount of yes votes can't be justified by the evidence or the truth!!!!

Lady Quagga
01-22-2015, 04:24 PM
Nobody has even requested these discussions to stop, so... why are you still busting each others balls. It's freaking tiring because I HAVE to come read this S&!$... since I contributed to the argument. Why are you freaking digging for ammo to shoot down opposition over GENERAL DISCUSSION.

When it comes to this poll, I have no problem having both sides voicing their opinions. Like any other thread in General Discussion, if you voice an opinion, you can expect responses (some critical) to that opinion.

I will agree with you on one thing - Gen Disc threads should probably not appear on FNN's main page. I don't think that's an unreasonable request. But really folks, if Gen Disc really bothers you that much, don't read it.

City Dad
01-22-2015, 04:24 PM
I'm bi curious...

there, fixed that for ya...




(sorry, man I just couldn't resist)

City Dad
01-22-2015, 04:28 PM
I will agree with you on one thing - Gen Disc threads should probably not appear on FNN's main page. I don't think that's an unreasonable request.

ditto that (but you're still a commie huggin' indoctrinoid)

DarkShadow
01-22-2015, 04:29 PM
(sorry, man I just couldn't resist)

That's what he said.

No, SHE said. That's what SHE said.

Damn you CD.

drc521
01-22-2015, 04:31 PM
How do you think new members feel when they show up to FISHINGNETWORK.NET and the first post is this one. The second one is Tom's, the 3rd one is pcusers,... you see where I'm going?

This is not about your ability to have an opinion and stand beside it.
It's not even about being able to avoid posts like this. New forum members don't have a choice.
Their first 3 clicks.. need to be about fishing. Not about whether he/she aligns with Tom's faith.
This is about running a FISHING FORUM.
So (***) help me..

DarkShadow
01-22-2015, 04:39 PM
New forum members don't have a choice.

I'm still confused.

The choice is to simply not click on General Discussion, and move onto the other fishing related areas of the site. This is the second time you mention that you don't have a choice, but all it takes is not clicking on this section.

In fact, there are plenty of members who are actively participating who have not posted in GenDisc. They're not 'forced' to do anything, just like the new members aren't 'forced' to peruse this section.

Where are you getting this idea that everyone is being forced to read this stuff?

Now, if you're saying people get tempted and want to read the items being discussed here, then that's a different story, as nobody is 'forcing' them and they are coming here out of their own volition.

etucker1959
01-22-2015, 04:47 PM
How do you think new members feel when they show up to FISHINGNETWORK.NET and the first post is this one. The second one is Tom's, the 3rd one is pcusers,... you see where I'm going?

This is not about your ability to have an opinion and stand beside it.
It's not even about being able to avoid posts like this. New forum members don't have a choice.
Their first 3 clicks.. need to be about fishing. Not about whether he/she aligns with Tom's faith.
This is about running a FISHING FORUM.
So (***) help me..
You know when it comes to electronics, "I'm a simpleton!!!' I take it what everyone is complaining about is, if you hit "WHAT'S NEW" you get the GD discussions first. "THIS IS A TRADEGY"?????? If that's the case, I wouldn't worry too much about the new members. It took me almost 2 years to learn to hit, "WHAT'S NEW!!!" I use to hit forum, freshwater and whatever section I wanted to read. I didn't think that was any kind of a big deal. But remember, "I'm an electronic simpleton." Speaking of too many clicks. Am I the only one who still has to fill out name & password every time I log on?????

drc521
01-22-2015, 04:52 PM
Lets not turn this into a human choice discussion.

Web impressions are not a choice.. its just like the damn cabelas advertisement next to your post right now. Its targetted to you based on your browsing habits. it's not something you can change.

When I first started fishing, I typed "fishing forum" into google.
When I showed up here it was littered with summer season fishing posts. Not General Discussion posts.
I didn't click Forum on the navigation bar. I never want to tunnel in that way, I just have to here.
I click on a posts on the front page. GUESS WHY, because they are relevant.

This is not about your ability to ignore.
This is about the websites design and how traffic is directed.
It's currently being directed to General Discussion.

Don't tell me that it's simple enough for someone to NOT click on General Discussion.
You and I both know that's not what this is about.

DockRat
01-22-2015, 05:35 PM
The question is simple. Has the general board finally reached the point that it has become a very serious black eye.

I myself have found that I don't even open up Pcusers, Buckets, and or Tom's threads (and others, which I include myself)


I voted yes BUT the 3 names listed have been posting a lot of crap and daily news. It got old quick.
You guys need to think about new topics. Ask yourself if it is interesting and others will enjoy it.
Enough of the Yahoo links. Keep posting just not try to own the GD board. If you are that bored then maybe get a Hamster or something. :LOL:
DR

etucker1959
01-22-2015, 05:51 PM
I voted yes BUT the 3 names listed have been posting a lot of crap and daily news. It got old quick.
You guys need to think about new topics. Ask yourself if it is interesting and others will enjoy it.
Enough of the Yahoo links. Keep posting just not try to own the GD board. If you are that bored then maybe get a Hamster or something. :LOL:
DR
Well DockRat, with the new Republican Congress in Washington all set to cause all kinds of Mischief. Coupled that with the Republican nominee for President Not even being close to being decided. I think there will be some very relevant topics coming up for discussion. Here is going to be the fun part for the people on the left side of the political fence. They will no longer have to try to defend President Obama policies anymore. It will now be the Republicans turn to be put under the microscope, for what THEY will be proposing to do for the American people.

etucker1959
01-22-2015, 06:38 PM
well Pcuser has pretty much quit Bucket is banned So its just me left
I have been here longer than most and have no intention of going away..
right now fishing is too good to be on the forum all the time
If you don't mind me asking, WHAT are you catching????

DockRat
01-22-2015, 06:43 PM
Well DockRat, with the new Republican Congress in Washington all set to cause all kinds of Mischief. Coupled that with the Republican nominee for President Not even being close to being decided. I think there will be some very relevant topics coming up for discussion. Here is going to be the fun part for the people on the left side of the political fence. They will no longer have to try to defend President Obama policies anymore. It will now be the Republicans turn to be put under the microscope, for what THEY will be proposing to do for the American people.
Off Topic rant.


If you don't mind me asking, WHAT are you catching????
Off Topic (again)

hookdfisherman
01-22-2015, 06:45 PM
If you don't mind me asking, WHAT are you catching????

wait, b4 i answer that, are YOU CHRISTIAN???? just answer the question!

etucker1959
01-22-2015, 07:03 PM
wait, b4 i answer that, are YOU CHRISTIAN???? just answer the question!
Hit ignore button!!!!

etucker1959
01-22-2015, 07:11 PM
Off Topic rant.
No I don't think so. You made a statement, "that we need to think up better topics." I was just answering your question and giving you a preview of some new topics that will probably be discussed.


Off Topic (again)
You are correct!!

HawgZWylde
01-22-2015, 07:55 PM
Holdover trout from the last 2 stockings that are roaming the shallower water and some Bass
Seems some Bass from 12-15" are running with the schools of trout...I have never seen this before

Diversity, multiculturalism and desegregation has spilled over into the aquatic world...:Shocked:


Ya ya, off topic...

hookdfisherman
01-22-2015, 08:26 PM
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you really need to get a larger set of panties. the ones you are wearing must be cutting off the blood circulation




I love my douchebaggery.


don'chu, TOM turkey?













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hookdfisherman
01-22-2015, 08:34 PM
I think the bass are Liberals not sure but when i was unhooking one he said something about loving his new health care plan
The trout were complaining about not being able to keep the plan they had
funny they were all together in a school





did you ask dem if they was christians?

jus' curious.

HawgZWylde
01-22-2015, 09:20 PM
I did the Bass were all Christians and half the trout were Atheist...half the trout were were quakers

So that makes the Stripers Muslim right?

cutbait
01-23-2015, 05:15 AM
So that makes the Stripers Muslim right?

I see what you did there

HawgZWylde
01-23-2015, 06:01 AM
I see what you did there

Hehehe...:Death2Above::Guns: