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Bucket
10-01-2014, 08:55 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/u-judge-orders-landmark-california-cross-taken-down-012849685.html;_ylt=AwrTHRCHxSxUcVEAncRXNyoA;_ylu= X3oDMTExNWlxbXM1BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNgRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dG lkA1VJQzFfMQ--

Lady Quagga
10-01-2014, 09:45 PM
Why does the ACLU but not veterans get to decide how memorials for veterans are run

They don't. They represented clients who were, in fact, veterans.

The decision was handed down by U.S. District Judge Larry Burns.

I understand the logic behind the ruling, but I am disappointed nonetheless. I don't know the details of the transfer of ownership from the city to the federal government, but I don't understand why the land couldn't have been sold or transferred to a private owner, thus protecting the landmark.

Bucket
10-01-2014, 10:27 PM
They don't. They represented clients who were, in fact, veterans.

The decision was handed down by U.S. District Judge Larry Burns.

I understand the logic behind the ruling, but I am disappointed nonetheless. I don't know the details of the transfer of ownership from the city to the federal government, but I don't understand why the land couldn't have been sold or transferred to a private owner, thus protecting the landmark.


It was a small group of jewish veterans who were against it and the rest were people who have no business at all. It still does not make sense because they only represent a minority of the veterans who were against it, what about the majority. The ACLU had a political agenda and it starts with a big O.

Lady Quagga
10-02-2014, 12:33 AM
It's everyone's business, regardless of the opinion of any particular person or group.

"Big O"?

Bucket
10-02-2014, 06:33 AM
It's everyone's business, regardless of the opinion of any particular person or group.

"Big O"?

My point is my majority of the people with you included wanted it there however for political reasons the minority got what they wanted.

pcuser
10-02-2014, 07:28 AM
My point is my majority of the people with you included wanted it there however for political reasons the minority got what they wanted.

The Jewish soldiers gave their lives for our country too. So, how exactly do the 'Christians' lives carry more weight? And what is "O"?

Lady Quagga
10-02-2014, 07:29 AM
My point is my majority of the people with you included wanted it there however for political reasons the minority got what they wanted.

Yeah, it's funny how the Constitution works.

And I didn't say I wanted the cross. The fact is I agree in principle with the decision, but am disappointed that an alternative solution could not be reached.

Bucket
10-02-2014, 07:33 AM
The Jewish soldiers gave their lives for our country too. So, how exactly do the 'Christians' lives carry more weight? And what is "O"?

Most of the people serving are Christian. If that's how you feel Pcuser why don't you pull out all the crosses at Arlington. I respect the Jewish soldiers or whatever religion ,belief, or nonbeliefs they have but why ruin something for everyone else. They could have put a Jewish statue up there if they wanted to but they didnt

Lady Quagga
10-02-2014, 07:58 AM
Most of the people serving are Christian. If that's how you feel Pcuser why don't you pull out all the crosses at Arlington. I respect the Jewish soldiers or whatever religion ,belief, or nonbeliefs they have but why ruin something for everyone else. They could have put a Jewish statue up there if they wanted to but they didnt

Pulling the crosses out at Arlington? Did you do your research? The VA offers dozens of authorized faith emblems (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arlington_National_Cemetery#Grave_markers.2C_niche s_and_headstones) for headstones and markers at Arlington, and thus is not in violation of the Establishment Cause.