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ZipperWurm
08-20-2014, 08:42 AM
Hey all. I've only had my boat for a few months now, it's a 19ft champion bass boat. I ran into a problem the other day when i was at castaic trying to anchor it to fish with bait. I really dont have much experience with anchoring since i pretty much use my trolling motor for everything. i tried to anchor at depths between 30 - 50 ft and just could not get the anchor to hold no matter what i did.

Now this might sound really dumb, but i kinda figured that since i had 50ft of rope i could anchor to almost 50 ft down, but apparently that's not the case at all :Embarrassed: I started researching it and apparently you need 3x or more rope than the depth you're trying to anchor up in? Does anyone have any tips or advice for me on how much anchor rope i should have on me to fish sardines @ castaic or the mid? should i also invest in a second anchor at some point?

Sorry if these seem like real rookie questions, lol

P.A.W.
08-20-2014, 12:02 PM
How much chain do you have on the bottom? A minimum of 10-15 feet will be needed to do what you want.

ZipperWurm
08-20-2014, 12:36 PM
How much chain do you have on the bottom? A minimum of 10-15 feet will be needed to do what you want.

i dont think that much, maybe 6-7ft

fishinone
08-20-2014, 02:21 PM
I have 2 rolls of 1/4" 600ft rope. I buy it at Harbor Freight (http://www.harborfreight.com/600-ft-x-1-4-quarter-inch-polypropylene-rope-47836.html). I buy Chain (http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=chain) from there too. I used to use 5/16 x 20ft Truckers chain cut in half but I'd probably get that 1/4" x 35ft in the bucket and cut it in half now. It's new and buckets are always handy.

For the best results use anchors designed for the next bigger size of boat than yours. The people who designed the anchors had no idea that we would try to anchor in 160ft deep water in a gail force wind that's whipping around in all directions.

We use cord reels for extension cord to keep the rope organized. All 600ft of the rope will fit (just barely) on a 150ft cord reel. I like the Home Depot ones better than Harbor Freight's.

exfactor
08-20-2014, 02:48 PM
and a stern anchor helps even more. also, a marker buoy is a great tool for marking where you want to anchor first. that way, if you miss due to currents running differently then you thought, you can adjust according to the conditions. The chain is what keeps your anchor down digging into the bottom, make sure you have enough weight in chain to do the job

flyhigh123
08-20-2014, 02:53 PM
Here is a tip for anchoring i posted up before:

http://www.boat-ed.com/images/animations/anchoring.html


Also what size is your anchor and what type? I used to use a danforth and switched to a bruce. The bruce is heavier but almost never loses grip. get maybe 15 feet of heavy chain as well! Lots of rope/scope. at least 1.5 distance of depth. If you anchor in 50 feet, plan to put out at least 75 feet of rope if not 100. If its a really windy day, then aim for 150 feet of rope.

guide
08-20-2014, 02:58 PM
if you want to anchor In 50ft of water you should have 150' of anchor rope plus 10' of chain if its not a box anchor on the front and back.

MarkyMark
08-20-2014, 03:25 PM
Here is a tip for anchoring i posted up before:

http://www.boat-ed.com/images/animations/anchoring.html


Also what size is your anchor and what type? I used to use a danforth and switched to a bruce. The bruce is heavier but almost never loses grip. get maybe 15 feet of heavy chain as well! Lots of rope/scope. at least 1.5 distance of depth. If you anchor in 50 feet, plan to put out at least 75 feet of rope if not 100. If its a really windy day, then aim for 150 feet of rope.

A very good video! I used it to learn how to anchor in the Pyramid breeze/wind/gale force winds. I always anchor the front with a fluke type anchor & the rear with a mushroom type. I tried anchoring with 2 flukes once & got stuck big time (had to cut one loose). I also have used fishinone's Harbor Freight rope & chain, sometimes you can get the rope on sale for $12. It can do the job although I don't like it due to the roughness of the rope. If you do buy some also buy a pair of lineman or mechanic's gloves...

MM

fishinone
08-20-2014, 04:03 PM
We carry leather gloves for handling the small rope.

exfactor
08-20-2014, 04:45 PM
5/8 or bigger rope is easiest on your hands. also, you can rig a break away on your anchor if it becomes stuck, and still not lose your anchor. simply install another eyelet in the rear of your anchor, connect your chain there, then connect to the front leaving around 6 inches of slack chain, then use zip ties at top. if you pull hard enough, the zip tie will break, and then the anchor will be pulled backwards removing it from the obstruction

TroutOnly
08-20-2014, 05:24 PM
Or one big heavy rock on a rope.....................lol.................

Perris Bluegill Chaser
08-20-2014, 08:22 PM
I had the same problem....all the good answer are really helping..

ZipperWurm
08-21-2014, 06:57 AM
I have 2 rolls of 1/4" 600ft rope. I buy it at Harbor Freight (http://www.harborfreight.com/600-ft-x-1-4-quarter-inch-polypropylene-rope-47836.html). I buy Chain (http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=chain) from there too. I used to use 5/16 x 20ft Truckers chain cut in half but I'd probably get that 1/4" x 35ft in the bucket and cut it in half now. It's new and buckets are always handy.

For the best results use anchors designed for the next bigger size of boat than yours. The people who designed the anchors had no idea that we would try to anchor in 160ft deep water in a gail force wind that's whipping around in all directions.

We use cord reels for extension cord to keep the rope organized. All 600ft of the rope will fit (just barely) on a 150ft cord reel. I like the Home Depot ones better than Harbor Freight's.

Wow, 2 rolls of 600?? :Shocked: I live right around the corner from harbor freight, thanks for the advice! definitely sounds like a cheaper option than buying actual anchor rope/chain from a marine/fishing store.


Here is a tip for anchoring i posted up before:

http://www.boat-ed.com/images/animations/anchoring.html


Also what size is your anchor and what type? I used to use a danforth and switched to a bruce. The bruce is heavier but almost never loses grip. get maybe 15 feet of heavy chain as well! Lots of rope/scope. at least 1.5 distance of depth. If you anchor in 50 feet, plan to put out at least 75 feet of rope if not 100. If its a really windy day, then aim for 150 feet of rope.

That simple video animation really helps put in perspective of how anchoring a boat actually works. That's definitely a must watch for idiots like me who think dropping an anchor straight down is how it works, lol. The anchor i have is the danforth style, and it maybe weighs around 10 lbs?

Thamks everyone for the great replies, this is quality information :Thumbs Up:

TroutOnly
08-21-2014, 07:05 AM
Actaully dumbazz i had to do that after losing my anchor at pyramid early in the day on a very wendy day,,,but you wouldnt know that would you dumbazz......and it worked so well i used one one the back of my boat because i liked pulling up 20 ft 0f rope instead of 75 , buy you wouldnt know that eithet azzwad...............talk smack at you will get some back mr lake lice...............

DEVOREFLYER
08-21-2014, 07:14 AM
FREE ANCHORS these anchors are Trout Only approved and are environmentally safe and no tears will be shed if you lose one. They are available for pick up only as I do not deliver, a wide selection of sizes and weight is available. First come first served these won't last long. PM me if interested.

http://i.imgur.com/PMZQpap.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/iyFc7PP.jpg

TroutOnly
08-21-2014, 07:32 AM
you saw the fred flitstone action on my boat mike ,,,,,,,,everyone else that saw them would laugh there *** off...........

DEVOREFLYER
08-21-2014, 07:35 AM
No tears when ya lose one and they are Eco friendly, how can ya beat that? Dumbazzes spendin' good money for something ya gonna lose to Neptune. It's not if your gonna lose one it's when!!!!!!!:Shocked:

fishinone
08-21-2014, 10:17 AM
Inside joke!

I guess you had to be there!


http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq265/fishinone/IMAG0441_zps94db210b.jpg

Perris Bluegill Chaser
08-21-2014, 11:27 AM
can i have the 3rd one one the left...
FREE ANCHORS these anchors are Trout Only approved and are environmentally safe and no tears will be shed if you lose one. They are available for pick up only as I do not deliver, a wide selection of sizes and weight is available. First come first served these won't last long. PM me if interested.

http://i.imgur.com/PMZQpap.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/iyFc7PP.jpg