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DockRat
06-28-2014, 09:38 PM
If someone wants to check out there is many other ways to do it. Is this necessary ? $76,000,000 :Shocked:
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CALIFORNIA
GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE SUICIDE BARRIER FUNDING OK'D
Friday, June 27, 2014

SAN FRANCISCO -- San Francisco's iconic Golden Gate Bridge moved a big step closer to getting an oft-debated suicide barrier after bridge officials on Friday approved a $76 million funding package for a net system that would prevent people from jumping to their deaths.

The bridge district's board of directors voted unanimously in favor of the funding for a steel suicide net, which includes $20 million in bridge toll revenue. Federal money will provide the bulk of the remaining funding, though the state is also pledging $7 million.

The motion for Friday's vote came from board member and former bridge district director John Moylan, whose grandson, Sean Moylan, jumped off the bridge to his death earlier this month.

A tearful Dan Barks of Napa, who lost his son, Donovan, to suicide on the bridge in 2008, said after the vote that he was almost speechless. "A lot of people have done so much incredible work to get this accomplished," he said.

After the vote, he rose from his knees and shared a tearful embrace with Sue Story of Rocklin, whose son Jacob jumped off the bridge in 2010.

"We did it, Dan! We did it! It's no longer the Bridge of Death anymore," she said.

At least some of the money still requires additional approval. The bridge's board, however, has now taken its final step in adopting the net.

"The tragedy of today is that we can't go back in time, we can't save ... the people who jumped off the bridge. But the good thing, with this vote today, we can vote in their memory," board member Janet Reilly said. "We will save many lives who have followed in their footsteps - and that's what so extraordinary about today."

The Golden Gate Bridge, with its sweeping views of the Pacific Ocean and San Francisco Bay, has long been a destination for people seeking to end their lives. Since it opened in 1937, more than 1,400 people have plunged to their deaths, including a record 46 suicides last year, officials said.

Officials have been discussing a suicide barrier on the bridge for decades. The bridge's board voted in 2008 to install a stainless steel net, rejecting other options, including raising the 4-foot-high railings and leaving the iconic span unchanged.

Two years later, they certified the final environmental impact report for the net, which would stretch about 20 feet wide on each side of the span. Officials say it will not mar the landmark bridge's appearance.

But funding for the project remained a major obstacle.

A significant hurdle was overcome two years ago when President Barack Obama signed into law a bill making safety barriers and nets eligible for federal funds.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi of California in a statement Friday praised the bridge's board and Assemblyman Tom Ammiano, D-San Francisco, who has been a staunch supporter of a barrier.

"The Golden Gate Bridge is a source of immense pride to San Francisco, but for too many families in our community, it has also been a place of pain," Peloisi said. "A suicide prevention barrier offers a critical second chance for troubled men and women acting on often impulsive suicidal thoughts. Together, we can ensure this magnificent landmark stands as a faithful companion for all San Franciscans, awing and inspiring visitors for generations to come."

Most jumpers suffer a grisly death, with massive internal injuries, broken bones and skull fractures. Some die from internal bleeding. Others drown.

Kevin Hines, who miraculously survived his suicide attempt after jumping off the structure in 2000 at age 19, urged the board before its vote to "not let one more family sit in eternal pain, in perpetuity because of politics."

He later broke down after the unanimous vote approving the funding.

"I feel like a giant weight has been lifted off my shoulders, all of our shoulders. I feel free," Hines said. "I feel a sense of hope that I haven't had in a very long time. It's not over yet. We will be here until that net is raised and no more people die."

Richard Gamboa of Sacramento, whose son Kyle was among the 46 bridge suicides last year, said that while Friday's vote is momentous, he's not done fighting.

"It's not over for me. I'm going to keep coming here and urging them to get the barrier done. When I go on that bridge and look down and see that net there, then I will be at peace," Gamboa said.

John Brooks, whose 17-year-old daughter, Casey, jumped from the rust-colored span in 2008, told the board Friday that he hopes that some measure is taken before the net is constructed to provide some kind of safety to everybody.

"What I really don't want to see between now and the time it is done is more deaths," Brooks said. "That will be a cruel irony."

Board members and San Francisco supervisors David Campos and London Breed both agreed that the sooner the barrier is built, the better.

"We need to build it as quickly as we can," Campos said.

Bidding on the job is expected to start next year, with completion of construction expected in 2018.

http://abc30.com/news/golden-gate-bridge-suicide-barrier-funding-okd/145132/

old pudd fisher
06-28-2014, 09:53 PM
Why??? 44481 Pasadena Colorado Street Bridge is next I guess.

BALLERONBUDGET
06-28-2014, 11:10 PM
Pasadena bridge has a Jumper every month or so, lucky joggers below get to find them in the trees.... Let's not stop @bridges! Might as well get every fwy overpass in ca! Hey guys make it easy for the actual people that gotta cleAn up after ur actions. A garden hose to use exhaust pipe is odorless cheap and ur car gets to be resold on craigslist by ur parents whom now gotta fund ur pathetic burial!

HawgZWylde
06-29-2014, 07:16 AM
While I sympathize with the families and loved ones of those who commit these selfish acts, it doesn't matter how much money you spend in an attempt to prevent on scene suicide acts, the person is going to do it one way or another. The best prevention is paying attention and recognizing someone who is at risk and attempt an intervention before this person gets to that point of no return. Too many times these folks are ignored by those who fail to see the desperation many of them are experiencing. But with that being said, many times there is no way to stop someone who is committed to killing themselves, they're going to do it any way they can. Hey, at least when they hit the water they don't explode like if the jumped from a freeway bridge or put a .45 to their head and the family and loved ones have to deal with that visualization the rest of their lives...

DEVOREFLYER
06-29-2014, 09:17 AM
WARNING GRAFIC LANGUAGE:
Saw a lot of horror during my stent with the SBSO Search & Rescue Team but none worse than a suicide in Crestline. While at a Team meeting at the Sheriff Sub Station in Crestline a call came in for assistance on a suicide call. The victim had shot himself in the bathroom and his body was preventing the door from being able to be opened and we used extraction tools to make access. The victim chose a .44 mag as the method to end it all. Victim placed the gun against the roof of his mouth and pulled the trigger, the recoil knocked out his front teeth. The hydraulic force of the round pushed his eyeballs out of their sockets and most of the brain out of the cranial cavity. Brain matter, hair and bone covered the ceiling and part of the wall and mirror. And to top it off the heart did not know the host was dead and kept pumping until all of the blood in the body was deposited on the floor.
We did everything possible to keep the wife and kids out of the house and away from the scene. I can't imagine what effect this had on their lives. In my life I have had three friends commit suicide and no one saw it coming other than some saying that they were moody or seemed depressed but not enough to be concerned about.

old pudd fisher
06-29-2014, 05:46 PM
Yeah Devor seen my share of horror too, it stays with ya forever. Its good to talk about it sometimes if someone will listen but most don't want to hear about it so it just stays in side you.

Lady Quagga
06-29-2014, 08:42 PM
76 million would have provided well over 40k in mental health care for each Golden Gate Bridge jumper. Chew on that.

DarkShadow
06-30-2014, 10:30 AM
....the person is going to do it one way or another...

Statistically, if you make it harder to commit suicide, there are fewer suicides. In fact, a study of 500+ people who were prevented from jumping from the Golden Gate Bridge from 1937 till 1971 showed that only about 6% went on to actually commit suicide. In the 70s, the British changed the way they made stove ovens so u can longer stick your head in with the gas on and the heat off. The suicide rate went down.

These are good reads:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/06/magazine/06suicide-t.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/struck-living/201012/can-obstacle-prevent-suicide

76 million would have provided well over 40k in mental health care for each Golden Gate Bridge jumper. Chew on that.

You do realize that this is America.

Mental illness is just to difficult for any of us to admit exists, so let's just build a net and call it a day.

Plus, I know there's a certain segment of politicians that would rather fund another jet than dump 76 million into people who want to kill themselves anyway.

Also, the # of suicides on the bridge is under reported. That number being used are the ones they "know" about.

City Dad
06-30-2014, 12:52 PM
Makes me wish I'd stayed in the gigantic net installation business.

HawgZWylde
06-30-2014, 12:59 PM
Statistically, if you make it harder to commit suicide, there are fewer suicides. In fact, a study of 500+ people who were prevented from jumping from the Golden Gate Bridge from 1937 till 1971 showed that only about 6% went on to actually commit suicide. In the 70s, the British changed the way they made stove ovens so u can longer stick your head in with the gas on and the heat off. The suicide rate went down.

These are good reads:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/06/magazine/06suicide-t.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/struck-living/201012/can-obstacle-prevent-suicide


You do realize that this is America.

Mental illness is just to difficult for any of us to admit exists, so let's just build a net and call it a day.

Plus, I know there's a certain segment of politicians that would rather fund another jet than dump 76 million into people who want to kill themselves anyway.

[QUOTE]Also, the # of suicides on the bridge is under reported. That number being used are the ones they "know" about.

Hey man gotta feed that rising Great White population somehow...

DarkShadow
06-30-2014, 01:58 PM
Makes me wish I'd stayed in the gigantic net installation business.

I think you're better off being in banking and making money off junk bonds and sheisty lending processes.


Hey man gotta feed that rising Great White population somehow...

So nothing of value to add about your "they'll kill themselves anyway" myth that was debunked?

You don't say.

HawgZWylde
06-30-2014, 10:09 PM
I think you're better off being in banking and making money off junk bonds and sheisty lending processes.



[QUOTE]So nothing of value to add about your "they'll kill themselves anyway" myth that was debunked?

You don't say.

Perhaps you should reread my original post on this thread. You debunked nothing I said. I'll say it again, if someone is hell bent on killing themselves a $76,000,000 safety net will just have them do it some other way, like my best friend and riding partner of 20 years did. He put a .40 to his right temple. My great nephew intentionally overdosed.

I do say...

old pudd fisher
07-01-2014, 06:32 PM
Lost my sister in law a year ago, she ate a jar of morphine pills. When I was a kid my best friends dad hung his self in the garage I was there. And before that his grandpa shot his self in the head with a 22 rifle it happens. Hard thing for us ten year olds to see, wish he just jumped a off a bridge. Seen my old friend Mike a few months ago, been 20 years we were in Nam at the same time and he got messed up real bad after only a month being there and still is handicapped a dear friend of mine. That was his dad we seen in the garage. Sorry I just had to vent.

Coleyounger
07-11-2014, 09:34 PM
I think you're better off being in banking and making money off junk bonds and sheisty lending processes.



So nothing of value to add about your "they'll kill themselves anyway" myth that was debunked?

You don't say.

Not really......

With Russia and China having briefly taken over the hub of global executive suicides, the sad trend has returned back to America. In what appears to the 15th financial services executive suicide this year, yet another JPMorgan Director took his own life. As IBTimes reports, Jefferson Township (New Jersey) police report that the Global Network Operations Center Executive Director, "Julian Knott, age 45, shot his wife Alita Knott, age 47, multiple times and then took his own life with the same weapon." They are survived by 3 teenage children...

As IB Times reports,

"JP Morgan executive director Julian Knott blasted his wife Alita to death with a shotgun before turning the gun on himself.

The 45-year-old, who worked for the investment bank in London until July 2010, shot his 47-year-old wife multiple times before committing suicide with the same weapon.

Julian moved to the United States from London in 2010 and was working at JP Morgan's Global Network Operations Center in Whippany, New Jersey, at the time of the tragedy.

Jefferson Township police, in New Jersey, confirmed on Sunday they had found two unconscious bodies at the Knotts' large suburban home at 1.12am.

A statement released on Tuesday added: "Through an extensive investigation conducted by the Jefferson Township Police Department, the Morris County Prosecutors Office and the Morris County Medical Examiner's Office the preliminary investigation has revealed that the two adults died as a result of gunshot wounds and the incident has been determined to be a murder/suicide.

"This preliminary investigation revealed that Julian Knott, age 45, shot his wife Alita Knott, age 47, multiple times and then took his own life with the same weapon."

This is the 15th financial services exective death in recent months...

1 - William Broeksmit, 58-year-old former senior executive at Deutsche Bank AG, was found dead in his home after an apparent suicide in South Kensington in central London, on January 26th.

2 - Karl Slym, 51 year old Tata Motors managing director Karl Slym, was found dead on the fourth floor of the Shangri-La hotel in Bangkok on January 27th.

3 - Gabriel Magee, a 39-year-old JP Morgan employee, died after falling from the roof of the JP Morgan European headquarters in London on January 27th.

4 - Mike Dueker, 50-year-old chief economist of a US investment bank was found dead close to the Tacoma Narrows Bridge in Washington State.

5 - Richard Talley, the 57 year old founder of American Title Services in Centennial, Colorado, was found dead earlier this month after apparently shooting himself with a nail gun.

6 - Tim Dickenson, a U.K.-based communications director at Swiss Re AG, also died last month, however the circumstances surrounding his death are still unknown.

7 - Ryan Henry Crane, a 37 year old executive at JP Morgan died in an alleged suicide just a few weeks ago. No details have been released about his death aside from this small obituary announcement at the Stamford Daily Voice.

8 - Li Junjie, 33-year-old banker in Hong Kong jumped from the JP Morgan HQ in Hong Kong this week.

9 - James Stuart Jr, Former National Bank of Commerce CEO, found dead in Scottsdale, Ariz., the morning of Feb. 19. A family spokesman did not say whatcaused the death

10 - Edmund (Eddie) Reilly, 47, a trader at Midtown’s Vertical Group, commited suicide by jumping in front of LIRR train

11 - Kenneth Bellando, 28, a trader at Levy Capital, formerly investment banking analyst at JPMorgan, jumped to his death from his 6th floor East Side apartment.

12 - Jan Peter Schmittmann, 57, the former CEO of Dutch bank ABN Amro found dead at home near Amsterdam with wife and daughter.

13 - Li Jianhua, 49, the director of China's Banking Regulatory Commission died of a sudden heart attack

14 - Lydia _____, 52 - jumped to her suicide from the 14th floor of Bred-Banque Populaire in Paris

15 - Julian Knott, 45 - killed wife and self with a shotgun in Jefferson Township, New Jersey

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-10/banker-suicides-return-jpmorgan-executive-blasts-wife-kills-self-shotgun