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smokehound
04-27-2007, 02:22 AM
EVERYONE CEASE COASTAL FISH CONSUMPTION FOR A WHILE, THESE MASS KILLS ARE FROM AN UNUSUALLY HIGH AMMOUNT OF DINOFLAGELATES. DONT EAT ANY CALIFORNIA SPINY LOBSTER OR SPIDER CRABS, AND AVOID ALL SHELLFISH! THIS IS WHY EVERYTHING IS DYING ON THE BEACH!

IF YOU DO CHOOSE TO EAT COASTAL FISH, REMOVE AS MUCH VISCERA AS POSSIBLE, AND CLEAN THEM WELL! DOMOIC ACID IS HEAT-STABLE, COOKING WILL ****NOT**** DESTROY IT!

IF USING MUSSEL AS BAIT, WASH HANDS, AND KEEP THEM AWAY FROM YOUR FACE.

THIS WARNING SPECIALLY HIGHLIGHTS ALL FORMS OF COTTIDAE(sculpin). DO NOT EAT THEM! YOU MIGHT GET EXTREMELY SICK! DO NOT ASSUME ITS SAFE BECAUSE OF THE ABSENCE OF A RED TIDE. MOST RED TIDES ARE HARMLESS.

one_leg
04-27-2007, 02:48 AM
Here is a link to a news story about domoic acid.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me ... home-local (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-birds27apr27,0,6317897.story?coll=la-home-local)


It helps to look here.
http://www.dhs.ca.gov/home/publicnotices/

Or the CDC.
http://www.cdc.gov/

No need to start a panic. Does anybody know of anyone who has become ill as a result of eating or handling any of these products?

One_Leg

Brad100
04-27-2007, 08:56 AM
Here's another article about this potential problem...

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me ... home-local (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-birds27apr27,0,6317897.story?coll=la-home-local)

Being informed helps! Feed all fish, etc to your mother-in-law before you eat it!

LMAO

DA_Beaut
04-27-2007, 09:38 AM
Thanks smokehand... Some good info...

On another note - dont you just love the LA Time's LIBERAL reporting style... How the hell do they know its from less wetlands and over-fishing?

Hawkeye5447
04-27-2007, 09:48 AM
Its sad about all those animals on the beach.
:( :( :( :( :( :(


Whats even more sad is the fishermen that will blame this for their inablility to catch fish. :lol: :twisted:

one_leg
04-27-2007, 09:54 AM
Being informed helps! Feed all fish, etc to your mother-in-law before you eat it!

LMAO

EEeeeeeeewwwwwwwwWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dschmaltz
04-27-2007, 10:25 AM
What is domoic acid?
Domoic acid is a naturally occurring toxin produced by microscopic algae, specifically the diatom species Pseudo-nitzschia. Shellfish and crab ingest this algae, where the toxin concentrates. Significant amounts of domoic acid can cause Amnesic Shellfish Poisoning (ASP) in humans. ASP is transmitted by eating contaminated molluscan shellfish and crab.

How long has domoic acid been a problem?
In the fall of 1991, domoic acid was detected in razor clams off the coast of Washington. In that same year, DOH began monitoring all major shellfish growing areas for domoic acid.
Source: Washington Department of Health



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Scientists suspect the upsurge has been caused by such things as overfishing, destruction of wetlands and pollution, all of which have harmed fisheries and allowed algae to flourish.
"I have been doing this work for 35 years and I have never seen anything like this as far as the number of species affected, other than an oil spill," said Jay Holcomb, director of the International Bird Rescue Research Center in San Pedro. Local beaches have been littered with sick and dead pelicans, sea lions and dolphins."
Source: LA Times Article.

Funny how something that was first identified as a problem in 1991 can be twisted to a 35 year old problem.

While this post is relevant and fisherman should take it seriously, do not by any means take the article in the LA Times to be anything other than opinion based propaganda mixed with journalism!!! There is a reason that their circulation is in the toilet.

victor101
04-27-2007, 11:21 AM
DONT EAT ANY CALIFORNIA SPINY LOBSTER OR SPIDER CRABS, AND AVOID ALL SHELLFISH! THIS IS WHY EVERYTHING IS DYING ON THE BEACH!


People eat spider crabs?

Wildhorse1966
04-27-2007, 11:31 AM
DONT EAT ANY CALIFORNIA SPINY LOBSTER OR SPIDER CRABS, AND AVOID ALL SHELLFISH! THIS IS WHY EVERYTHING IS DYING ON THE BEACH!


People eat spider crabs?

you dont know what your missing :P

sandiegojoe
04-27-2007, 11:54 AM
Funny how something that was first identified as a problem in 1991 can be twisted to a 35 year old problem.


I think he was just stating his experience with dealing with sick animals.

No twisting. Domoic acid has been around for much longer than that, it's natural after all. They made the connection in 91' but animals have been dying on beaches forever.

victor101
04-27-2007, 12:02 PM
DONT EAT ANY CALIFORNIA SPINY LOBSTER OR SPIDER CRABS, AND AVOID ALL SHELLFISH! THIS IS WHY EVERYTHING IS DYING ON THE BEACH!


People eat spider crabs?

you dont know what your missing :P

JapanRon
04-27-2007, 03:34 PM
Hi smokehound,

Thanks for the heads-up! The article was in the Long Beach Press Telegram today too! the LBPT is owned by the la la times so what's there gets here!!

JapanRon

Torsk
04-27-2007, 04:09 PM
I caught two Sculpin off Vincente Pointe on Sunday.

Delicious.

Only side effects after eating were me wipin up my plate with a slice of buttered bread and the urge to go catch a few more.

Fisherman57
04-27-2007, 04:54 PM
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?secti ... id=5250388 (http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=local&id=5250388)

SanDimasLMB
04-27-2007, 05:09 PM
Thank GOD!!! I caught some Sculpin off of Newport Pier yesterday and released them all. Maybe the domoic acid made the sculpin hungry because it was WFO

Funjunkie74
04-28-2007, 12:45 AM
Okay class, repeat after me. GLOBAL WARMING... :evil:

Granny Fish
04-28-2007, 12:56 AM
Whatever... :roll:
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I know it is something we should all be conserned about, but algea toxins is something we have always dealt with.

Shellfish is the major problem with human poisoning. Even still, I think that the most that would happen is you would get sick. The toxin is not residual, unlike lead or PCPs.

Hitts0n
04-29-2007, 10:43 AM
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matt k.
05-02-2007, 03:28 PM
talked to the wild life care center and they said we are on the tail end of one